This may be a stupid question so please don't flame me for it but it's a simple and quick one.
If i do a factory restore on a rooted stock ROM for the Incredible, will i LOSE root and have to re-root??
If you do a Factory Reset, wipe, etc from recovery, you will not lose root, but will have to re-enter your accounts and the like when you re-boot. If you flash an original ruu, you will lose root and have to re-root.
If I am wrong on this, someone please correct me.
What if i do the factory restore from within the ROM itself instead of doing it from recovery?
Any difference there?
Predtechhacker said:
What if i do the factory restore from within the ROM itself instead of doing it from recovery?
Any difference there?
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No, as said above, if you flash RUU back to stock, it puts the factory image on your phone. If you do a factory restore, it wipes all data from your phone and you need to reinstall everything. It will not change a custom rom back to a stock rom.
Excellent. Thanks man!
Damn, he's quick to respond. Ditto.
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Hello i am currently on CM 7.03 and am wanting to change to CM 7.1.0.
Is there any way of updating the software without flashing the new ROM?
Also to update by flashing the new ROM do i just have to wipe cache and reset factory settings then run the zip from CWM?
Thank you for your time.
u only need to wipe cache and dalvik cache (only to be sure) and flash the update..thats all
no factory reset or other wipes are needed
So am i right in thinking that too change between ROMS thats all that you have to do? (obviously having made a nand backup)
Spezz Monkey said:
So am i right in thinking that too change between ROMS thats all that you have to do? (obviously having made a nand backup)
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yes and u will not lost any setting
Ah that's good. I will still do a back up of all my messages and contacts regardless.
I thought i would lose everything again, considering that the first time that i flashed a ROM i came from stock and rooted with Revolutionary.
Spezz Monkey said:
Ah that's good. I will still do a back up of all my messages and contacts regardless.
I thought i would lose everything again, considering that the first time that i flashed a ROM i came from stock and rooted with Revolutionary.
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you lose everything when u do a factory reset/wipe user data from the recovery
the factory reset/wipe user data is necessary when u change the rom (like going from a sense rom to cm7)
but when u just upgrading (cm7.0.3 to cm7.1) u dont have to factory reset/wipe user data..only wipe cache and dalvik
btw always do a nandroid backup before upgrading
NAND backup, flash the rom, flash the gapps. You might want to clear cache and dalvik-cache too. It shouldn't be necessary to wipe your data.
and what if I also want to flash a new hboot and don't want to lose all my data? can I first update to 7.1 (from 7.0) then do another nandroid backup then flash a new hboot (which require wiping everything, I understand) then restore from nandroid backup? Is that possible or there is another easier way to do it? thanks
BlackMiracle said:
and what if I also want to flash a new hboot and don't want to lose all my data? can I first update to 7.1 (from 7.0) then do another nandroid backup then flash a new hboot (which require wiping everything, I understand) then restore from nandroid backup? Is that possible or there is another easier way to do it? thanks
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That should be possible if you are flashing the CM7 hboot and have not modified any system files as the partitions should still fit after the hboot update. However I recommend you do some more research or back up your data with titanium backup (in case it fails).
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itachi1706 said:
That should be possible if you are flashing the CM7 hboot and have not modified any system files as the partitions should still fit after the hboot update. However I recommend you do some more research or back up your data with titanium backup (in case it fails).
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nice! thanks!
Installed CM 7.1.0 by just wiping the cache and dalvik and it all worked perfectly.
I accidentally deleted some system files from my phones. I want to ask that will restoring my ROM will bring me back those files or is there any other way so you can tell that as well.
The files I deleted were related to sound so now there is no sound on my mobile phone now. I also want to tell you that I am using stock android 4.2.1 rom.
Restoring is your best bet. If you have CWM you can also restore a nandroid, reflash, or factory reset.
If you have a backup to restore that should work. Factory resetting the device will not as it just formats /data & /cache leaving /system the same as it was before. If you dont have a backup you can fastboot flash the /system image from a Google factory image.
thanks
Thank you for the reply.
didn't work
The restore option didn't work. What should i do now?
fallu said:
The restore option didn't work. What should i do now?
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Did you factory reset before restoring the backup? Yes?
Then you need to start fresh = flash stock through fastboot.
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I have been playing around with the nexus 7 installing apps and adding a different recovery.
I would now like to perform one final wipe of the device, reset it, and then make my pristine backup. I'm currently using Clockworkmod recovery. What is the best way to return the 7 back to stock?
Should I just reset/erase using Clockworkmod recovery? Also, will I need to delete my old Clockworkmod backup if I do not want it anymore?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Rick
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I have been playing around with the nexus 7 installing apps and adding a different recovery.
I would now like to perform one final wipe of the device, reset it, and then make my pristine backup. I'm currently using Clockworkmod recovery. What is the best way to return the 7 back to stock?
Should I just reset/erase using Clockworkmod recovery? Also, will I need to delete my old Clockworkmod backup if I do not want it anymore?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Rick
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reset from recovery only resets the user data and depending on recovery, also the virtual sdcard.
It doesn't touch the /system files. You might have installed tweaks to the system. You might have installed root, changes to the slimport resolution, USB-OTG like stickmount may have made changes to debuggerd. None of these get reset with the reset from recovery.
The factory image blasts a factory image back onto the device, bootloader, recovery, kernel, rom, resets user data, etc.
So in your case if you really want to get back to stock before making a pristine backup, factory image is the better choice.
sfhub said:
reset from recovery only resets the user data and depending on recovery, also the virtual sdcard.
It doesn't touch the /system files. You might have installed tweaks to the system. You might have installed root, changes to the slimport resolution, USB-OTG like stickmount may have made changes to debuggerd. None of these get reset with the reset from recovery.
The factory image blasts a factory image back onto the device, bootloader, recovery, kernel, rom, resets user data, etc.
So in your case if you really want to get back to stock before making a pristine backup, factory image is the better choice.
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Thanks, the new image is exactly what I want to do. I'm still a little confused about the relationship between the recovery and the image though. If I flash the image again, will I lose my custom recovery and just return to the stock recovery? Is it just like a computer that the image is going to configure the tablet exactly back to the stock image or will I still have the Clockworkmod recovery? I know I can easily reflash the Clockworkmod recovery so not a big deal.
Thanks again for the help.
Rick
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Thanks, the new image is exactly what I want to do. I'm still a little confused about the relationship between the recovery and the image though. If I flash the image again, will I lose my custom recovery and just return to the stock recovery? Is it just like a computer that the image is going to configure the tablet exactly back to the stock image or will I still have the Clockworkmod recovery? I know I can easily reflash the Clockworkmod recovery so not a big deal.
Thanks again for the help.
Rick
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Factory image flashes stock
1) bootloader
2) radio (for deb/LTE)
3) recovery
4) boot/kernel
5) system/ROM
6) wipes user data / virtual sdcard
7) wipes cache
So your custom recovery would be replaced with stock recovery.
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Factory image flashes stock
1) bootloader
2) radio (for deb/LTE)
3) recovery
4) boot/kernel
5) system/ROM
6) wipes user data / virtual sdcard
7) wipes cache
So your custom recovery would be replaced with stock recovery.
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Great, thanks. This is exactly what I'm going to do.
Hey everyone. My phone has been running like crap lately and I have thought about doing a factory reset. I just had a few questions. If I did a factory reset I'm pretty sure I lose root, but what about the custom recovery?
Also, this is what I had in mind to do - but would you mind checking to see if it would be my best route please? I am going to install a custom rom on it. But just wanted to do a factory reset / install stock firmware first before I did it.
Download and install stock firmware. 10B I believe is what it is.
Root it again and put the bumped recovery back on it.
Install CM12 or another rom.
Is that pretty much what I should do?
Thanks!
mikewelch5 said:
Hey everyone. My phone has been running like crap lately and I have thought about doing a factory reset. I just had a few questions. If I did a factory reset I'm pretty sure I lose root, but what about the custom recovery?
Also, this is what I had in mind to do - but would you mind checking to see if it would be my best route please? I am going to install a custom rom on it. But just wanted to do a factory reset / install stock firmware first before I did it.
Download and install stock firmware. 10B I believe is what it is.
Root it again and put the bumped recovery back on it.
Install CM12 or another rom.
Is that pretty much what I should do?
Thanks!
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If you do a factory reset (with the kdz tool, its the best way if you want to reinstall the stock firmware), you lose everything (root, recovery, etc..) because it will flash the phone completely.
I recommend you to take a look at this for all the thing that you need to do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089
And make sure you never do a factory reset from within Android w/ a custom recovery like TWRP installed, otherwise your phone will end up in a continuous boot loop. There's no reason for you to go back to stock anyway, as you're planning on reinstalling CM12 or installing a different ROM. You'll be doing a factory reset (wiping System, Data, Cache, and Dalvik) from within TWRP before flashing anyway, so there's no need to go back to stock beforehand.
mikewelch5 said:
Hey everyone. My phone has been running like crap lately and I have thought about doing a factory reset. I just had a few questions. If I did a factory reset I'm pretty sure I lose root, but what about the custom recovery?
Also, this is what I had in mind to do - but would you mind checking to see if it would be my best route please? I am going to install a custom rom on it. But just wanted to do a factory reset / install stock firmware first before I did it.
Download and install stock firmware. 10B I believe is what it is.
Root it again and put the bumped recovery back on it.
Install CM12 or another rom.
Is that pretty much what I should do?
Thanks!
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If you flash your phone with kdz, yes, like the guy above said you will lose both root and recovery. What I'm curious about is reason you want to do it? You already have custom recovery so if you want to do factory reset (that is wiping data and cache partitions) why not do it manually there?
And what is the point of it? As you said you will flash CM12 or another ROM, so that will basically do a factory reset, you will wipe all (system, data, cache) to install your new ROM...
Of course before flashing or wiping system partition with TWRP I recommend doing a backup just in case.
Thanks for the info everyone. The reason I wanted to do a clean factory install instead of just putting on CM12 is because if I didn't like it, I could just go back to a stock, rooted KK.
Like I said it has been acting up lately, so maybe a clean install of factory can help it. That way, if I don't like CM I can just restore my clean copy.
Where as now, if I didn't like CM I would have to restore my messed up backup.
But I will probably flash back to stock firmware, root it again and put a custom recovery on it again. Make a backup of that, then play around with some ROMS.
But once again, I appreciate the help!
Does hard reset uninstall the custom recovery being installed? Just wanted to revert it back to original like a newly bought phone. Also wanted to locked to bootloader. Wanted to do these things because it went buggy when I started experimenting to root my phone thus it was all failures. Hoping for a informative or maybe a step by step guide reply to this. Thankyou
If you mean factory reset, that will not return you to the stock ROM. All a factory reset does is wipe user data.
Or if you're talking about the WIPE section in TWRP, if you select "system" it will just wipe the OS, and not leave anything in its place. Meaning you will no longer be able to boot into OS.
You should make a TWRP backup of the stock ROM before rooting. That way, you can easily restore to the stock unrooted ROM.
Otherwise, there are guides in this (M8s) section about how to return to the stock ROM.