Locking... Was it all Zune? - Windows Phone 7 General

Locking... Was it all Zune?
I was wondering, since Chevron was able to work only with Zune, and if you wish to install
a new update on your device, you must update the Zune first.
Is there a possibility that Zune is the one that makes all the problems?
Maybe they altered the ports that Zune uses to comunicate with WP7 device,
and since the chevron used HTTPS, they're not compatible any more,
and therefore, they can not comunicate.
I know it sounds like conspiracy theory, but i was checking protocols and have found some inconsistencies...
Maybe im wrong...
Your opinions?

NoDo doesn't require an extra Zune update, so no.

Arktronic said:
NoDo doesn't require an extra Zune update, so no.
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Unfortunately, pre-Nodo aksed for Zune to update...
At least it asked me to update it...
That's where my doubts come from

for me, when i couldn't get wp7 unlocked i noticed that either zune or windows was changing the host file just as chevron tried to connect... no matter what i did ie changed values , edit user rights, even tried system with read only rights ,... something kept changing the host file to "my ip.windowsdevelopers.com" now i use a win7 instalation in a virtual drive with no zune or windows updates at all. seems to work for me..

Interesting solution...
I have tried installing Zune on another computer and tried to run Chevron,
but no luck... All I'm getting is error, that Chev. can't make connection with device.
Current state of OS: Build 7008 (That's pre-Nodo right?)
Cheers!

yep 7008 is pre nodo... i unlocked with chevron with that os. used vmware workstation. clean install of win7 (no updates except windows phone 7 usb drivers) then zune. unlocked first time.
you may have to re set your phone?

Well i did hard reset my phone for a couple of times, but had no luck...
I shall wait now... I will probably try some more on other computers, but
if I don't succeed, I will play by MS rules and do the NoDo.
After that, the waiting for a jailbrake shall be waited upon
P.S. A question, bit off topic.
Is there any way to insert custom ringtone to a non-Cheved device?
I can't access My Ringtones folder via Windows Explorer, even though
i changed registry on my computer to be able to access the phone as
a regular usb device...
Tnx up front, for any info provided

not really.... even if you did put them in your music folder zune on your phone doesn't seem to read the id3 tags and calls them unknown without names.
try..... fresh install win7 then connect phone aand get drivers... then zune... then chevron,

Yep, that's the problem with ringtones, or music at all...
I will try that with Win7, because i curently have no other options
Anyway, many thanks for your help!

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[Q] Device relocks when connected to PC

Hi guys,
I used ChevronWP7 to unlock my device. But every time I connect device to a PC and sync with Zune device relocks. Is there any way I could prevent that?
I read about device checking periodically if it should be unlocked. I am not sure if Zune caches that. But there must be a way to prevent that. It is very annoying.
Thnaks
Only when we have our own ideals, can
jonusb4 said:
Only when we have our own ideals, can
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I can see this is your first post.
I was thinking if Zune contacts Microsoft to check that every time when I connect a device, then disconnecting from the network or disallowing access to a certain address I could prevent that. But if that information is cached than I would have to find that somewhere.
Leave ChevronWP7 open after it's unlocked your phone. It'll never lock until you close it. Now to find a way to bind ChevronWP7 code to the Service that detects the WP7.
Maybe the answer is to create a 3rd party Zune Sync tool (i.e. reverse engineer everything that doesnt involve copy protection/DRM) so that you can use that instead of loading the MS tool that does the unlock check.
Such a tool could allow syncing of WP7 from Linux also. (if it was ported that is)
jfwfreo said:
Maybe the answer is to create a 3rd party Zune Sync tool (i.e. reverse engineer everything that doesnt involve copy protection/DRM) so that you can use that instead of loading the MS tool that does the unlock check.
Such a tool could allow syncing of WP7 from Linux also. (if it was ported that is)
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The device is checking a service OTA, not sure this would matter much. If you leave the chevron app running 24/7 and run a custom DNS server on your network, you could mitigate some of it... a pita? possible...

[HTC] Prevent WP7 from Relocking

This is discussed elsewhere, but deep within other threads, so I wanted to give it it's own thread to help people in finding out how to prevent Zune from relocking WP7 devices. It only works on HTC devices for now because TouchXplorer only works for HTC devices.
1. Install TouchXplorer
2. Install HTC Connection Setup
3. Download and extract this zip file to your PC.
4. Deploy the extracted XAP to your device
5. If XBMOD.Files.Deployer does not automatically run, run it from your App list on your device.
6. Using TouchXplorer on your device, copy \My Documents\My Ringtones\CustClear.provxml to \Windows\
7. Run HTC Connection Setup on your device, hit the ok button (with the check mark) to let it provision.
8. You're done.
If you unlock with ChevronWP7, apply this hack, and then for some reason your phone relocks, refer to DanielNTX's post to get it unlocked again. You need to install a new certificate, provided on his post.
All credit goes to xboxmod and his HTC Registry Editing thread and HTC WP7 Apps thread.
Hope it works for me... "thanks"
I tried this before and it didn't work. It revoked every application I had downloaded.
Yeah I had this done for a while but my question is can I uninstall the program once I've done everything else? It looks ugly in my app list =/
This Didn't work for me, had finally got it unlocked, came back 3 hours later, connected with this installed and also with flight mode on and now my phone's relocked. Make sure to block Windows Mobile Zune Communication Service from your firewall, while that was blocked it didn't relock
Psygnosis84 said:
I tried this before and it didn't work. It revoked every application I had downloaded.
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What type of device do you have?
ceo4eva said:
Yeah I had this done for a while but my question is can I uninstall the program once I've done everything else? It looks ugly in my app list =/
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You can uninstall it. The provxmls stay in the My Ringtones folder.
julianpitt said:
This Didn't work for me, had finally got it unlocked, came back 3 hours later, connected with this installed and also with flight mode on and now my phone's relocked. Make sure to block Windows Mobile Zune Communication Service from your firewall, while that was blocked it didn't relock
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I don't bother with flight mode or any of the other tweaks and it still works for me. What device do you have?
Thanks. This works well. Finally, I don't need to unlock everytime after zune syncing.
Do you think this patch will be removed by MS at the next update as well as chevron unlock?
I think that chevron (the phone unlocker) doesn't work after OSupdate.
Yes, the method that ChevronWP7 uses will be disabled in the update... but that doesn't mean it won't be cracked open again.
After applying this patch there are 2 files in the My Ringtones dir - one of them is restoreCustClear.provxml file, which means it will revert the registry changes done by the first provxml file (custClear.provxml).
Do you think that if I activate my phone the Marketplace will start working as usual - downloading any apps without the error "can't get info right now... come back after a little while" , AFTER I've installed the above patch for not relocking the phone? I.e. in other words can I side-load apps and simultaneously continue to use the legacy Marketplace without any problems?
@thesecondsfade, applied the patch on my HD2.
Thanks
poceh said:
After applying this patch there are 2 files in the My Ringtones dir - one of them is restoreCustClear.provxml file, which means it will revert the registry changes done by the first provxml file (custClear.provxml).
Do you think that if I activate my phone the Marketplace will start working as usual - downloading any apps without the error "can't get info right now... come back after a little while" , AFTER I've installed the above patch for not relocking the phone? I.e. in other words can I side-load apps and simultaneously continue to use the legacy Marketplace without any problems?
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Yes, you can sideload and download from the Marketplace simultaneously. I do it now on my HD7. It should be the same with an activated HD2.
julianpitt said:
This Didn't work for me, had finally got it unlocked, came back 3 hours later, connected with this installed and also with flight mode on and now my phone's relocked. Make sure to block Windows Mobile Zune Communication Service from your firewall, while that was blocked it didn't relock
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I am just about to do this until i saw this!
Please confirm that this hack works!
PS: Unlocked my device yesterday and now it's still unlocked.. I downloaded and deployed youtube, shazam and other stuff without problem.. Strange though cause every one had this problem after unlocking and sync with Zune...But I don't!
So...do i have to make this hack or not?
Thanks
This works like a charm
I can not find CustClear.provxml in ringtones folder...!
arkatis said:
I can not find CustClear.provxml in ringtones folder...!
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You sure you deployed the XAP? The path is \My Documents\My Ringtones
This method works like a charm! Thank you! I can now synchronise my phone with Zune without the phone getting relocked by Zune
Just love it!
Yes i deployed those 3 apps on my device...weird!
Brilliant
Works flawless on my HD2
arkatis said:
Yes i deployed those 3 apps on my device...weird!
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Try it again. See what happens.

[DF Router Fix] For all people with having problems geting back into Zune Mode

First I want to say I tested this on my own HTC 7 Pro and all you need is the DFT HSPL and some time
This is the first time i wrote a tutorial so please correct me if there is a something wrong...
1. Check if you have installed HSPL on your device
2. Install the 7720 DFT Custom rom Can be found here
3.After you installed the Rom and your phone is rebootet complete the setup and connect to the internet (wifi or mobile)
4. Copy this link http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7645529/DFRouter.xap and paste it in the Internet Explorer
5.You should now have a white screen with the text Tap to open the File DFRouter.xap tap on the text and leave Internet Explorer
6.Go to your application menu there should now be the DFRouter App put your phone back in zune mode and all is working just fine
Please give me a Feedback if this fix worked for you and if it was helpful ^^
not using it anymore my phone can't detect pc Zune and charging.had to send to service centre again and they change the mobo.I believe that WP7 is totally different from wm6.I also believe many have problem using it.
It really work
Thanks a lot & DFT Lukas94 my HTC hd7 is back in zune mode after three months.
Ttblondey said:
not using it anymore my phone can't detect pc Zune and charging.had to send to service centre again and they change the mobo.I believe that WP7 is totally different from wm6.I also believe many have problem using it.
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The point here is that you can download and instal XAPs directly from the net instead of doing it through Zune and sideloading. The key to fixing the Zune mode on your phone is just to get DFRouter installed on your phone. Installing directly from the OP's dropbox account will allow it to install and will allow you to click the button "Zune Mode" to get your phone back to being able to sync with Zune again.
Router mode on Mango breaks the phone's connection to the PC entirely, which means you won't be able to charge your phone if in router mode on Mango... but if you turn your phone off and plug it into the wall-charger, it should charge... which will allow you to then install the XAP from the OP's dropbox account.
thesecondsfade said:
The point here is that you can download and instal XAPs directly from the net instead of doing it through Zune and sideloading. The key to fixing the Zune mode on your phone is just to get DFRouter installed on your phone. Installing directly from the OP's dropbox account will allow it to install and will allow you to click the button "Zune Mode" to get your phone back to being able to sync with Zune again.
Router mode on Mango breaks the phone's connection to the PC entirely, which means you won't be able to charge your phone if in router mode on Mango... but if you turn your phone off and plug it into the wall-charger, it should charge... which will allow you to then install the XAP from the OP's dropbox account.
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anyway thanks,i'm not going to risk again. I'm still on nodo.
Thanks a lot, my connection to Zune is back after 1 month
I´m pleased that it worked but I have some bad news... I don´t have a WP7 Phone anymore :/
sorry guys but I hope my tutorial helped you

Directions Please - Unlock/Backups/ROM/FLASH/MANGO/NODO/7004/Zune versions

Can someone please simplify all this for me?
The information on this site is so convoluded in terms of methods, some expired , some still valid, and guesses that are plain wrong, and irrelevancies.
I have been reading, installing, and uninstalling for hours into days.
Samsung Focus
1. Can Mango unlock be achieved with unlock from 7004?
2.I was on NoDo unlock and followed some instructions for the Focus that did not work. It went right to Mango LOCKED (as many others have reported).
I made a nice little back up of my NoDo unlock but can't get back to it using any version of Zune or any method, they all result in restore errors.
My back up might as well be on the north pole because I can't get to it.
3.I flashed back to 7004 and couldn't get chevron to unlock again like I used to be able to on XP or WIN 7 with various zune versions back to 4.7.
I'm wondering if the newer Zunes corrupted that somehow because last time it worked was on a fresh zune install on windows 7.
And besides that, they all ask to be upgraded before they do a back up, usually.
4.But even if it is unlocked at ROM 7004, zune updates (if chosen) will send it back to mango and locks it agian right? That's what happened last time , it just kept updating the phone for hours and then it was back to mango.
5.It appears my only option now is Mango locked or 7004 flash Rom with possible unlock.
Hopefully answers here will help others as well.
A few answers, though not compreheensive:
1) You don't have to let WP7 install each update, if you wanted to stop at, for example, NoDo 7392, you could. Just wait untilt he update gets that far, then pull the plug and/or hit Ccancel in Zune. Left to itsself, it will install all available updates.
2) The phone automatically dev-relocks whenever a major update is installed - this happens even to people with legitimate develop-unlock (and it's annoying!) For Samsung, I believe the technique for preserving unlock is the same one used to get interop-unlock on Mango: place an unlock provxml file in \provxml\ on the phone's filesystem (you can either use Heathcliff74's WP7 Root Tools to do this, or you can just install his interop-unlock XAP) and make sure you have a working version of the Samsung Diag app (should allow you to process provxml files). Once you have that, you can install all the way up to the Mango update safely, I think (I don't have a Samsung, but it should work) and use the Diag app to process your provxml file, which will both dev-unlock and interop-unlock the phone.
Not sure what's up with your backups; I can't really help you there without more information. What error do you get? What version of Zune are you using (you probably should use the latest version, 4.8.whatever)? How big is the backup (it's in %localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\)?
As for what guides to follow, starting with the stickies is always a good idea.
Hello,
I have a HTC Mozart device wich is momentarily running on unlocked NoDo.
I have followed various guides from xda but I end up running a locked Mango (most of the guides require after Mango update to run HTC Connection Setup to unlock... which I am unable to run (black scren) and all other apps tell me revoked by Microsoft).
is there any latest guide a little more foolproof?
It seems that after 18th October something happened with Zune which prevents Mango unlock...
Gyuritzy said:
Hello,
I have a HTC Mozart device wich is momentarily running on unlocked NoDo.
I have followed various guides from xda but I end up running a locked Mango (most of the guides require after Mango update to run HTC Connection Setup to unlock... which I am unable to run (black scren) and all other apps tell me revoked by Microsoft).
is there any latest guide a little more foolproof?
It seems that after 18th October something happened with Zune which prevents Mango unlock...
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After you install the interop-unlock xap while on nodo then goto mango you reinstall the diag app and in the Diagnosis app dial: *#9908#.. Select "Heathcliff74 Interop Unlock"
then tap Save, tap Close and exit the Diagnosis app
@lucasryan: Those are the instructions for a Samsung phone. They don't work at all on an HTC phone.
@Gyuritzy: Currently, Microsoft is pushing the Mango update and an HTC update together. The HTC update blocks the unlock path used with Mango. If your phone gets that update - which means if it gets Mango through the retail update path - there's no current way to interop-unlock it.
If you can get Mango through an atypical upgrade path (I came from the beta, which worked), or if you use a custom ROM (be *very careful* of the bootloader version if you try this!!), you can get interoop-unlocked Mango on HTC. It's not easy, though.
Ahh i see that i quoted his post now. as alan93 has focus
What solution do I have to load Mango without HTC update? Should I try with RCT2RTM type of packagge?
@GoodDayToDie
#1 - ahh ok, but I'm sure watching the update tentativley is required right? For like an hour and a half.
#2 - now see, there you go again, this is only for dev-unlock people which , i'm not even sure what that is..what? you pay $100 to MS to get it? It needs to be stated more clearly where ever that solution is posted AT THE VERY TOP like this "IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A DEV UNLOCK ....
@ lucasryan - That can't be right, -->"installing interop unlock on NoDo then go to Mango"...STOP RIGHT THERE. when you go to Mango it wipes everything out and you have no more access...unless of course ..YOU ALREADY HAVE A DEV UNLOCK...what ever that is.
I did try the diagnosis trick on update to mango after putting that file on there but the diagnosis version would not go higher than 908 or what ever. Couldn't get 1112 or what ever the one that is needed.
Please, just say there is no way to unlock Mango unless you have a dev unlock and that is low percentage as it is...then I won't expect so much.
Thanks for the replies.
Here is the zune error I get on trying to restore to my NoDo unlock.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-restore/3ec7091d-d79d-422c-9995-cfe186e0155b
As you can see nobody is dying to answer it.
I think the code number means "this goon is trying to restore to an unlocked version, don't answer him".
@alan93: Developer Unlock is the term used for the change to your phone made by the Windows Phone Registration Tool (if you have a marketplace developer account), ChevronWP7 Unlocker (possible on pre-NoDo), ChevronWP7 Labs (coming soon), or changing the DeveloperUnlockState registry value located at HKLM\Comm\Security\LVMod to 1 (possible with the LG registry editor, or by using the Samsung diag app or HTC Connection Setup app to process to provxml file). The registry change is actually what matters; the other methods are simply ways to achieve it.
Dev unlock allows you to install XAP files - a renamed ZIP file with some manifest XML files, one or more managed (.NET-based) DLL files, and possibly other files needed by the application. Due to a bug in the application installer, you can also use a XAP to put arbitrary files almost anywhere in the filesystem (the installer can't write to the \Windows\ directory).
One of those manifst files specifies capabilities that the app has, which controls permissions of the app (for example, ID_CAP_ISV_CAMERA allows access to the public camera APIs). As of Mango, including beta versions, it is no longer possible to install apps with the ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES capability unless the MaxUnsignedApp registry value (located in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg\Install) is set to at least 300 (the default value is either 10 or 3, depending on the unlock method used). ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES is required for interfacing with drivers, a way for applications to run at high permissions (for example, to write to the registry). Each time you install a major upgrade, such as Mango, this value is reset to its default. An app with ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES therefore can't be installed (or run, if it was installed before upgrading to Mango) until this MaxUnsignedApp registry value is changed, a process referred to as Interop-unlock (term coined by Heathcliff74 on this forum). Marketplace-installed apps are exempt from this restriction, which is why things like Connection Setup (which has ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES) can be used.
For what it's worth, I got my dev-unlock by purchasing a marketplace developer account ($100 from MS). One day I may even submit an app to the marketplace, but so far all the apps I've written use homebrew and wouldn't be acceptable for the marketplace, so I just publish them here.
Thanks great explanation.
I intend to write my own too, I wrote one and have a few more great ideas but didn't want to pay until i made sure I was able to write them completely and testing on the simulator sux. And last I heard, the media player doesn't work with it.
I just think the fee and lockout just hurts development thereby limiting the success of WP7.
If it was $50 or less I would probably pay it.
I mean for crying out loud I'm a certified MCP/MCAD, they should give me a break here.

Stop Zune from showing OEM Updates

This is for anyone that has their phone where they want it and do not want the latest OEM driver updates that tend to have an impact on interop-unlock capabilities (we know of Samsungs and HTC latest doing this).
I see lots of people who have updated the OS using CAB sender methods (myself included) and want the ability to keep IU abilities for highest privileges and to apply IU after a hard reset. I also know the latest drivers can cripple this so I tell my phone to ignore updates (I don't need them or have work arounds).
But, when I plug my phone into my PC and launch Zune I get an update notification every time and I have to say "update later". Very annoying...
So, I have a solution:
Go into C:\Program Files\Zune and rename the file UpdateWP.exe to UpdateWP.exe.t and Zune is not able to do Windows Phone Update and ignores the updates. I can always rename it back later if I want it enabled again.
If I try to do an update manually from Zune I get an error that it can't complete right now and gives an error code. Everything else seems to still work fine.
Just passing this along.
P.S. Yes, this will stop Zune from showing ANY updates including OS so be aware. Visit XDA regularly to see what latest WP OS updates there are
I don't have an "UpdateWP.exe" in that directory...
djadry said:
I don't have an "UpdateWP.exe" in that directory...
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