the wired remote isn't working at all, is there a musicplayerapp which let's me customize what to do when I use the remote?
I have Vol+, Vol- and Play/Pause Buttons (work fine on my sisters iPhone) but my Defy doesn't react in any way :-|
btw: is that thing even called 'cable remote'? I just translated it word by word with my rubbish english skills
is my English too bad for anyone to understand? (seriously..)
or is this the wrong place to ask?
First, please tell us which of the v-moda's headphones do you have. They have quite a lineup and... hard to find the ones with remote.
uh, silly me!
"V-Moda Remix Remote",
I just checked this: V-Moda Compatibility and it's clear that it MIGHT work. Thing is that Motorola doesn't seem to have any wired headphones with more than one button. So.. I don't know...
In a week or two I'll have the chance to cross check the compatibility between Defy's and iPod's stock headphones.
Have a nice day
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I am looking to purchase a better pair of headphones but am unsure which are compatible. I would like a pair with mic & player control, i think i read some where that any that fit an i phone or i pod wil work, can any reccomend or offer any advise please, Thanks in advance.
I presume pretty much any new headphones with the buttons in the middle.
They key is having the three lines on the jack, i'm thinking there might be a standard for which pin is the control (as the other two would have to work for audio in everything)
Dont quote me on that though, could be wrong :s
I'm not sure if it is an appropriate forum for this topic, I hope so. At the beginning I would like to apologise for my English level, I'm not native speaker
I have recently bought Apple In-Ear Headphones. I have read that Defy has exactly the same pin configuration in the mini-jack so I thought the buttons and microphone in these headphones will work. In fact they doesn't. Pushing buttons doesn't do anything and mic doesn't work.
My question is: is there any possibility of making them work by using some kind of application or maybe it is my ROM that is the problem (WajkIUI). I have also SoundMAGIC mp21 with the same pin configuration, but these ones work properly. I have tried several applications from Google Play, but none of them does work. Is there any other option why they don't work.
Thank in advance for answer.
Does anyone know if there is any solution?
If I remember well, there might be some SMC resistors and capacitors in the microphone part. So, the phone senses the headset and the button pushes by sensing the difference in resistance or capacitance between the mic wire and ground. I'm not sure about it, as I'm not that good at electronics.
Maybe your SoundMAGIC mp21's measures fall somewhere between the Apples and the Motorolas so they are sensed by both the iPhone and the Defy.
But I could do some measures on my headset (if I can find it).
Cheers!
I have these exact phones and they are working with me (on CM7). They should work in stock ROM to. The button works by shooting the Mic with ground. But I find the button failing on me... sometimes it pauses the song without me pushing the button. Apple headsets with 3 buttons give problems sometimes with the middle button. Other two never work.
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edit: The one's I have are also the soundmagic. Also have sinnheiser headphones with 3-buttons and non of them work. Altough the call-accept should work as it is just shorting the 2 wires. I'm gonna try and measure a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936167
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I wouldn't like to have such a long wire, so I will have to test other ROMs if the button and mic works there.
Thanks for advice.
If someone had any other suggestion, i would be grateful for an answer.
I found the solution by myself: you have to plug the headset with one of the buttons being pushed. Then volume buttons work as play/pause. And that is enough for me
Hi
Do you have or know about an adapter of this characteristics that allow plug my custom headphones and keep the mic and central button function?
Im looking for use my bose IE2 headphones with my SGS2, but i dont wanna to lose the mic and button controls that have the geniune headset of galaxy S2, then i found this
http://dx.com/p/3-5mm-male-to-femal...one-volume-control-for-cell-phone-84cm-126278
and this
http://dx.com/p/simplism-3-5mm-male...-microphone-for-iphone-ipod-ipad-black-127001
When i plug my bose IE2 directly to the phone, all sounds great, but when i plug mi headphones to the adapter the sound is very very bad, only recover the true sound if i press the central button, and i just keep pressing the button to get the correct sound quality.
I hope not to be the one to have this type of need... ejejej :fingers-crossed:
Best regards
that would be a great acesorie, spetially if they make it with bluetooth support
Yes, but even without the Bluetooth support would be great to use custom headphones without losing the mic and the button.
I had one from "mobilnet" (very cheap) that worked (until I screwed cable after connector) ... iphone have switched last two pins (tip/ring/RING/SLEVE) - in original its left/right/mic/ground and in iphone its left/right/ground/mic so you get signal that go throught mic (I think - you can try to say something and it should change volume) ... if you short circuit with button it will play good ... open adapter and change last two cables (colors cant be for sure ) ... one should be connected to mic+r+l and one only to mic ... change them
(im trying to make adapter for this for two weaks at least but its hard to find 3.5 jack female)
in attachment is my mic control
(green + blue = left + right, yellow is sleve and red is for mic)
dont do that
The low quality of the DX products is just that, low quality. You can get such an adapter for the iPhone from more reputable brands, and while the volume buttons on a tri-button setup won't work, the middle one should. Alternatively you can make your own adapter by soldering a jack in place of the plugs on the mic/button cable you have. OR you can do what I used to do back in the iPhone 3GS days and open the Bose headphones and solder a new cable with mic directly to the speakers. If the IE2 are anything like the Bose IEMs I've done this to, it's not a hard thing to do.
Alternatively, there are Bluetooth adapters out there. The Jabra Clipper and the Nokia BH111 are two of the most interesting looking ones out there right now IMHO
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I had one from "mobilnet" (very cheap) that worked (until I screwed cable after connector) ... please open one of the adapters and post picture of cables and board (I have not one that dont work) ... maybe if you short circuit with button it will play good ... open adapter and change last two cables (colors cant be for sure ) ... one should be connected to mic+r+l and one only to mic ... change them
in attachment is my mic control
(green + blue = left + right, yellow is sleve and red is for mic)
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edit: I was right - mic and gnd are changed ... your ground goes throught mic and so it have low power (cause mic works that way) ... if you press button you short mic and ground so it will work like intended
OMTP and CTIA standards are to blame
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/news/2012/1202/021312_Audio-Jack-Detection-Switch.html
you can use extension cord (for 4pin 3.5 jack) with changed mic/gnd or solder it in adapter (that is the easy way - finding cable with 4pin female is hero mission if you cant access ebay)
I have akg K350 they are for iPhone and now I have opened the control - the control is based only on the mic+gnd connector ... research in progress
AKG K350 pinout (iPhone control CTIA standard)
Tip Left Green
Ring Right Blue
Ring Ground Gold
Sleeve Mic Red
iPhone control:
Main button action - short mic and ground
+ and - are coded signals
Cheap headset
Left Green
Right Red
Ground Gold
Mic Stripped
Samsung Galaxy S2 pinout (CTIA standard):
Tip Left
Ring Right
Ring Ground
Sleeve Mic
Android control:
main button - shorted to R98
back button - 133-327 ideal R220
forward button - 437-711 ideal R600
How to use three buttons on iPhone control: http://www.instructables.com/id/Galaxy-Nexus-and-others-headset-remote-with-medi/#step1
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Yes, but even without the Bluetooth support would be great to use custom headphones without losing the mic and the button.
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you mean like the samsung hs3000? the official bluetooth stereo headset has support for custom 3.5mm headphones, an integrated microphone, play, skip forward, backward buttons, volume control, ptt, equalizer and a clip to attach it to your clothes. it has everything you guys want and has been available all along.
I was looking for something like this too, the only options I could find were really cheap ones for a couple of $ or ones over £15 with crappy reviews.
In the end I found this and bought it because it was a decent price and the same brand as my earphones (jays)
It comes with a single earphone you can plug into it, or you can use any other earphone.
I also installed the JAYS headset control app from the play store and you can customise the controls from there.
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
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If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
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how is build quality though?
ive used the griffin one called ''smart talk'' but that lasts about 1-2 months everytime and costs about £15
ive tried the cheap chinese ones but the microphone quality is abysmal even if they do only cost £3
ive tried a genuine samsung one but that had the connections wrong and quality was terrible untill you pushed the function button then it become normal but you couldnt control anything with the function button
iam thinking the jays one or the htc one look pretty good
i like wired controls as they dont run out of battery like bluetooth headsets and dont drain battery like bluetooth headsets
i need a solid one though because iam fed up paying griffin £15 every 1-2 months and iam a posty so use my phone all day as a music player and the mail bag can cause strain on the wire across my chest
bbolgar said:
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
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hi mate,
where you bought this? i cant find it on ebay or other local shops, how is its quality build?
Thanks
I bought it in a phone shop in Hungary, but as I can see, you can buy it on amazon as well.
For me, one of these lasts for about 9-12 months, though I use them every day, phone in my pocket etc.
For what it's worth I had 2 Samsung extension cables lying around for older phones, where it would work miracles, but on SGS2 it simply acts up like almost any of these (blame Samsung for changing things around and making them incopmatible in a year or so). I feed up and bought me Jay a-Jays One+ and never looked back. Good build quality and good sound, mic working as it should and apk is doing the rest for my preference and usage.
buxz777 said:
i need a solid one though because iam fed up paying griffin £15 every 1-2 months and iam a posty so use my phone all day as a music player and the mail bag can cause strain on the wire across my chest
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I don't think I can comment on the durability of the jays ones yet since I've only had them for just over a month (since the end of may) but I've used them almost daily since I bought them and have had no problems yet.
again, i can only recommend the original samsung hs3000. it offers the most features of the available stereo bluetooth headsets with phone capabilities, and at about 20 pounds, it is just as cheap as those lousy 3rd party aftermarket headsets but obviously is much better.
i have had it for about 7 or 8 months now and the battery life is still great. with 1 hour of music a day and another 1-2 hours of connected standby with the occasional call i can get through almost a week without recharging (if only the same thing were true with the phone itself ).
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again, i can only recommend the original samsung hs3000. it offers the most features of the available stereo bluetooth headsets with phone capabilities, and at about 20 pounds, it is just as cheap as those lousy 3rd party aftermarket headsets but obviously is much better.
i have had it for about 7 or 8 months now and the battery life is still great. with 1 hour of music a day and another 1-2 hours of connected standby with the occasional call i can get through almost a week without recharging (if only the same thing were true with the phone itself ).
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its a nice headset dont get me wrong ive owned two of them however the call button is huge and it always accidently calls someone for me because there is no lock on the call button and it is so easy to press by mistake , the amount of people i called by mistake was unreal
also the battery life isnt the best , about 6 hours mx music playback , bearing in mind i can work an 11 hour day , it wont even make it through a working day for me playing music all day (iam a posty and music all day is vital) so that means that iam then carrying around a bluetooth headset that has no battery and leaves me with a phone and headphones with no mic which is pretty useless for a handsfree situation
yu may love the samsung bluetooth adapter and thats great but for me it wasnt what i want/need and was pretty much useless for me if it cant even make it through the working day and that call button is huge and right on the front where it can easily be pressed
so yep its a nice bluetooth headset if thats what you need but i think the o/p and people like me no it exsists , dont like it or it doesnt fit our needs and we want a wired adapter so we can use our own headphones yet control our music and speak through them as well iam sure if we wanted a bluetooth headset then the thread title would be different dude
have nice evening and thanks for the suggestion again but its just not what we are after
ah, ok. i didn't know you already had it. i thought my previous post was overread and i thought to suggest it again
you are right, the big call button and some other minor things might not be for everyone. although, if battery life was that bad for you, i would suggest plugging the original headset with microphone in the hs3000, so you'd have bluetooth as long as it lasts and still having a 2nd option. without carrying 2 separate sets of earphones.
however, it is too late now apparently.
Try nokia ad-54 its works like a Charm
Nokia Ad-54
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Earph...Phone-Nokia-M011-/180666515232#ht_2570wt_1139
this works for me
are you using it with nokia? android dont have signals for so much buttons (as I know)
Hey, how do you use this? also have it! It has a smaller connector, is there any adaptor?
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I though I'd ask you guys as you'd know best.
I have some excellent sounding Klipsch x10i but the volume buttons don't work on my Samsung Galaxy S III I9300
I was looking at this but it says it will not work with S3/S4
Is there anyway around this?
Thanks
This could be the answer but is there a cheaper option?
cramhead said:
I though I'd ask you guys as you'd know best.
I have some excellent sounding Klipsch x10i but the volume buttons don't work on my Samsung Galaxy S III I9300
I was looking at this but it says it will not work with S3/S4
Is there anyway around this?
Thanks
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I am afraid not
I am looking for something likes this very long but could find a solution.
The thing you found seems great... I hope it works
Samsung has their own propietary headphones that correctly work with your phone. As far as others, you can get a player that supports customizing the buttons on the headphones, like the one i use Player Pro.
Volume - forget about it, its proprietary. In order to make it to work, you need to crack remote open and replace 2 resistors inside. It's very tedious and these in-line remotes are so small, you might break it before taking it apart.
Regarding control and MIC - it absolutely DOES work. Get JAYS free app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.jays.headsetcontrol - and with a single multi-function control button you can play/pause audio and video, pick-up/hang-up calls and use MIC (you don't even need app to use any of these functions for single button and mic use), then also assign double and triple click for playback control to skip Next/Prev tracks and adjust timing between clicks (very important because if timing is too short it will think you did a double click and a single click).
Look into my signature link and over a hundred accessory review I posted on XDA, including headphones with dedicated Apple controls. Everything works great
Btw, how do you like x10i? I have S4A II (supposed to be for android, but they simply removed volume buttons from apple version, leaving a single multi-function control button). My favorite under $100 headphones are UE 600vi with "apple" control, about $59 on amazon. Wireless, I can't get enough of new Plantronics BackBeat Go 2. Also, might get x7i to review, heard some saying it sounds better then x10i? Also, Klipsch released x11i too.
walkman is the best choice:good:
cuongdhytn said:
walkman is the best choice:good:
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Great, another HK spammer who is trying to get to 10 posts with useless short sentence replies just so he/she can start posting links to their product. I'm guessing it's going to be from "onite"? LOL!!!
ControlTalk is owned by Apple
As I said in the title. The ControlTalk protocol seems to belong to Apple. It seems there isn't anyone who has figured out the protocol, or if it needs some kind of logic in the phone to process the commands.
Basically everything I've found involving someones headphone button control app always works for most buttons, but not the volume buttons.
So its either an Apple well kept secret (NDA for vendors like Beats) or some kind of technical limitation which stops it working on non-apple devices.
Even HTC with Beats branding cant support Volume Up and Volume Down on the Apple ControlTalk headphones with Android devices.
Happy to be proven wrong if someone knows more.
D.
Hey guys,
Bought some nice headphones with the 3 button control on it. The center button works for pausing/playing and skipping to the next track, but the volume controls don't work for some reason... Can I do something to get them working? Maybe download something? Change some settings?
Thank you!
I don't think the phone supports that, did you try the mic? In some of the three buttons headsets the mic does not work.
Mic does not work either, is there a way to make the headset supported?
Have you tried Tasker?
Not very familiar with the program? Could you recommend what to do?
Jeanxito said:
Have you tried Tasker?
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Any suggestions?
Thank you!
From my point of view, you can always try to create a profile for your headphones, that can control the way you want, signing buttons to work like you want. You can always use other automate programs but, tasker is the most complete and powerful IMO.
If you can not use it, our can't find the your way to work with it there's always a wiki for it (just search for it) our try to use others like "Smartkey" or "RemoteControl for Earphones" (search playstore).
I tried an app called headset button controller and it recognized the center button clicks but did not recognize the volume button clicks. Can I somehow in tasked or another program get the volume buttons to recognize?
It sounds like you've got a iPhone compatible headset rather than an android one. I've only just started looking into this myself (as I'm in the market for a new headset) but as I understand it Apple have swapped the pin out on the TRRS connector. I think there might be adapters available if you're married to you're current headset but I haven't really investigated that as I haven't bought anything yet and I think an adapter would end up being clumsy.
On mobile so don't have my links in front of me but hopefully that's enough to give you an appropriate Google query.
obzbdc said:
It sounds like you've got a iPhone compatible headset rather than an android one. I've only just started looking into this myself (as I'm in the market for a new headset) but as I understand it Apple have swapped the pin out on the TRRS connector. I think there might be adapters available if you're married to you're current headset but I haven't really investigated that as I haven't bought anything yet and I think an adapter would end up being clumsy.
On mobile so don't have my links in front of me but hopefully that's enough to give you an appropriate Google query.
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The headset I have has an extension that I put on to make the cord longer, I wouldn't mind buying the trrs adapter and using this new cable/adapter instead of my current one.... Would this fix my problem of the buttons not working?
Nope, sorry!
arty93 said:
The headset I have has an extension that I put on to make the cord longer, I wouldn't mind buying the trrs adapter and using this new cable/adapter instead of my current one.... Would this fix my problem of the buttons not working?
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Hiya,
I finally got around to doing some more research into this, apparantly there are two different issues with using Apple headsets with Android devices.
1 - Wiring change on 3.5mm TRRS connector. - This is why the microphone doesn't work for calls, Apple changed the pin out on the headphone jack to the reverse of most other manufacturers. This is the problem that can be solved by the adapter I was talking about originally.
2 - Different resistance on the button commands. - In addition to the wiring changes Apple also use a different electrical resistance on the buttons (and have patented their specific level). The adapter doesn't fix this unfortunately so even with it the buttons still won't work.
Looks like there isn't a solution to #2 unfortunately so it might be time to start looking at a different headset entirely.
Sorry for getting your hopes up with my original post.
BDC