Rom lagging - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just wondering if anyone else has lags in there roms the more apps and games etc they add/install.
I have tried loads of roms and they all seem to slow down and get laggier and laggier the more stuff you install.
Im currently using Superrom HD Data2Ext v2.0 and thought it was ok at first then when it starts to fill up it gets worse.
Anyone know a good rom that doesn't lagg up on app and game instalation.
I currently have 18 app/games and it runs fine now and again but some times it can just lagg like mad, this morning I had to remove the battery it was that bad and unresponsive.

AOSP roms are very good with not becoming laggy and also the stock rom as well. HD rom tend to lag as I found out last week with InsertCoinHD Data++. Even using my internal memory, it still lagged massively.

Meaple said:
AOSP roms are very good with not becoming laggy and also the stock rom as well. HD rom tend to lag as I found out last week with InsertCoinHD Data++. Even using my internal memory, it still lagged massively.
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Storing stuff on SD card will slow down your ROM, especially data.
I used to have data on SD card and tried a lot of combinations of kernels and IO schedulers but all of these showing various lags. Strangely enough, some of them gave very high quadrant scores (because of various caches) but almost as a constant I observed that the higher the quadrant score the more laggier the ROM.
If you need more space, store your apps on SD card. From there, the VM will generate .dex files in /data/dalvik-cache.
The key point is to keep your phone running as much as possible from the internal memory. This will reduce lags.
HD ROMs have more lagging than the non-HD ones. That is what I have experienced and I have tried almost all of them. So I am back to (modified) stock ROM.
But there can be many other reasons ... kernel ... settings that are done at boot time through /etc/init.d, very difficult to say in general.
I have got about 75 apps on my phone. No lags. Also no degrading performance over time.
I am running the stock Froyo (and removed unneeded bloatware), with custom compiled kernel, OC at 1113Mhz. Only apps are installed on SD (because otherwise not enough space) but all the rest is running from internal memory.
Check how many (background) services are running on your phone. I have 11. They may compete for some resources.
One other point ... check your kernel. Dalvik VM on HD ROMS requires cgroups enabled kernel. If your kernel does not have cgroups the VM will stall (causing lags).
Check the logcat ... you will see error messages saying "Unable to find CPU subsystem" ... in that case your kernel does not have cgroups.

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Not so smooth interface, could be due to OC?

Hello,
Until yesterday i never OCed my desire, I had DJ Droid rom and it was always smooth and slick in terms of interface and apps jumpiness.
Yesterday I decided to try the 1384Mhz rom from OpenDesire. Done full wipe of course, installed the ROM, then after the installation my Desire was pretty hot (probably due to all sync apps work) even before i installed set cpu or did any OC.
Then I said, ok lets try OC, I installed Set CPU, And tried 1300Mhz level and also the maximum levels. and it froze up, i had to pull off the battary and reboot.
Then I tried 1272, Again froze up during browsing...
Then I tried 1Mhz and ran stress test for long, no errors no freez ups.
However, OpenDesire wasnt slick and smooth for me, I mean during sliding the apps menu, it was not smoooth i felt some slowdowns... same about the main interface windows slide right/left. especially with live wallpapers from some kind.
Is it normal? Could I damage something in my CPU/GPU due to this OC? Which causing this?
I tried even full wipe and again from zero placing the OD rom...still had same feeling of none smoothness.
thanks
Any ideas?
I had this problem. I usually leave my Desire overnight so it can sync, titanium backup, fix permissions etc.
After installation of OD, I find that just signing in, then rebooting, installing extras like statusbar then rebooting, then titanium restore, fix permissions, then a reboot usually sorts me out, leaving my desire on sync overnight (market is very slow after fresh install for me =/)
Very long process
OD supports ext3 for A2SD+. Some users have reported that they had problems with several A2SD roms because they haven't got a ext2/3 partition, or a ext4 which I don't think is supported on OD. This can slow a rom down severely, as the phone is looking for the sd-ext partition.
Final mention would be setCPU itself.
Saying this, I have had issues with the performance scaling or whatever it is called... the "interactive", Ondemand, powersave etc.
I dont trust interactive scaling atm (had alot of FC on Pinkys and OD 3.5), as it seems relatively new, and still has some kinks.
Sticking with ondemand, with a sampling rate of about 20k and a CPU threshold of about 85%, I have pretty good performance. I have found that upon starting up setCPU on OD 3.5.2, the settings are 20k/11% which could be your problem.
Tried now GeFrost, well the apps icons panel ( 5 pages long...) when sliding again had freezy/laggy feeling....I've wiped GeFrost and installed LeeDroid rom with Sense UI, Now i feel good again I suspect that "none sense UI" Simply not for my touch and feel style... Sense UI feels much more smoother just like DJ droid rom i had...
So my CPU isnt damaged and could not get damaged from what I did... right?
rommark said:
So my CPU isnt damaged and could not get damaged from what I did... right?
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Your CPU could have been damaged from overclocking - I'm not saying that it has been, but there is always an element of risk when you overclock.
If you really want to overclock, my advice is to always start low and then incrementally increase. If you get to a point where the phone starts to become unstable, drop the speed back down a notch.
Furthermore - not all CPUs are made equal. Just because someone else manages to overclock their CPU to 1384MHz doesn't mean that you will be able to - it's just the luck of the draw.
Regards,
Dave
Hey,
Thanks for your answer.
Well on regular clocks its not freezing up to the level where I need pull off the battary...Something that indeed happened to me on OD with OC.
So far LeeDroid rom works smooth.
How can i find out if my CPU got damaged?
Anyone else had such lock ups which needed battary pull off, with OC on Desire?
Thanks!
Whenever you use a OC kernel, you run the risk of damaging the internals.
Non of the internal components are EXACTLY the same. Some can support lower voltages, some can substain higher Clockspeeds.
My lockups with OD is purely on the SetCPU settings.
Have you got a EXT3 partition on your SDcard? Because I see LeeDroid supports Froyo A2SD, while OD&DeFrost Ports are all LegacyA2SD
This may be the problem, instead of a issue with your internals, as the internals would most likely fail/rapidly overheat altogether if there was a problem.
Well I think my desire is warm as usual... not warmer. Only time it was really warmer then usual. Was when i just installed the OD rom and market was syncing all my massive list of apps all together which i think caused CPU over work but thats was even before i installed set cpu and did any OC....
Anyways LeeDroid now works i think as smooth as DJ droid. without any OC.
As for your question about EXT3 How do i check that? could this cause the lock ups with set cpu while using OD oced?
thanks
ext3 is a linux filesystem partition that you would of installed onto your SDcard, either by RomManager or Linux LiveCD/Linux OS
As your unsure, I'm pretty certain that you have not partitioned your SDcard. With A2SD+ (which are both on the OD and Frost roms), the phone is told to read Apps and delvik cache from the SDcard. This means no applications are actually installed on the phone, but the "internal" memory is now the ext3 partition on your SDCard.
Ext3 is required for both OD and De/GeFrost roms.
With this, it sounds like your CPU is fine, as LeeDroid is running fine, and that you are using Froyo A2SD.
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ext3 is a linux filesystem partition that you would of installed onto your SDcard, either by RomManager or Linux LiveCD/Linux OS
As your unsure, I'm pretty certain that you have not partitioned your SDcard. With A2SD+ (which are both on the OD and Frost roms), the phone is told to read Apps and delvik cache from the SDcard. This means no applications are actually installed on the phone, but the "internal" memory is now the ext3 partition on your SDCard.
Ext3 is required for both OD and De/GeFrost roms.
With this, it sounds like your CPU is fine, as LeeDroid is running fine, and that you are using Froyo A2SD.
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Thank you for your kind help.
Should Desire feels warmy in hand during its being connected to computer's USB?
Thanks!
Yea, thats usual. There is still power coming from the computer to charge the battery, so its fine.
I've had my phone hit about 50 Celsius on several occasions, while I've fell asleep ontop of it while playing music, and so far, no visible damage to performance etc
Again, the issues with OD just seem to be based around the lack of a ext3 partition on your SDcard, so don't worry too much about the CPU being damaged.
Just be cautious in the future with OC, and never OC more than you need It can drain more battery, and end up breaking your phone (in extreme cases).
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Yea, thats usual. There is still power coming from the computer to charge the battery, so its fine.
I've had my phone hit about 50 Celsius on several occasions, while I've fell asleep ontop of it while playing music, and so far, no visible damage to performance etc
Again, the issues with OD just seem to be based around the lack of a ext3 partition on your SDcard, so don't worry too much about the CPU being damaged.
Just be cautious in the future with OC, and never OC more than you need It can drain more battery, and end up breaking your phone (in extreme cases).
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Thank you so much,
So indeed OD / Gefrost was an EXT3 issue (lock ups, super slow down and lock ups which caused battary pull offs). How can i confirm this?
While DJ droid and LeeDroid working smooth with Sense UI.
thnx!
Only way is to reformat the SDcard, either with Rom Manager which is easiest (available for free on Android Market) or a Linux variant. This will remove all data currently on the SD, so back up everything
Add a ext3 partition to your SDCard (swap size is unnessacary), and install OD/GeFrost.
There will be a major boost in performance compared to previous times.

Lag Supreme and no solution

Hi there, well im just asking for help. My device 800i is lagging as hell and i just dont know why. since 2 days now, i tried everything offered here and its just getting worse. My two setups i tried are :
Basic : 800i, 16gb Sandisk cls4
A: Stock Rom .62
Kernel Doom v11 , bfq and SmartAss V2 ->1107 mhz
Supercharger v6 U9Rc7 with Option 7 and 20
Link2SD, 2nd Partition ext3
=> Micro Stuttering and furthermore, all games pauses itselfs like it needs to reload or something. YES, I mean Pauses, the pause-screen do appear in every game, in short periods
I switched to Doom v10 cause i thought microstuttering came from the gpu-oc. yupp it got fixed, but still get those "Force-Pause"-Screen
B: JokaWild Rom V2.5
Kernel Doom v10 , sio and SmartAss V2 ->1107 mhz
Supercharger v6 U9Rc7 with Option 7 and 20
Link2SD, 2nd Partition fat32
=> Oh my...this is even worse. instead of microstuttering or pause-screens (which seems to be gone here) its like periodically lagging as hell.I cant really describe, its just so heavy lagging. In between though, it runs super fast (until it gets its mega lag-cycle.
now, i dont know what to do..im getting like crazy cause everything just runs ****ty....i dont even want to start with a gameloft game, cause they are already "special"....this + my lagging would turn out to a flying xperia ...if ya know what i mean
please help me, thx in advance
i do however prefer stock, cause it runs "fluentlier"...just this pause-screen-reloading-crab annoys me haaaaardd
Im having the same problem bro, any help would be great
Sent from my R800i using XDA
okay first i thnk i will revert back to supercharger v6 u8
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Hi there, well im just asking for help. My device 800i is lagging as hell and i just dont know why. since 2 days now, i tried everything offered here and its just getting worse. My two setups i tried are :
Basic : 800i, 16gb Sandisk cls4
A: Stock Rom .62
Kernel Doom v11 , bfq and SmartAss V2 ->1107 mhz
Supercharger v6 U9Rc7 with Option 7 and 20
Link2SD, 2nd Partition ext3
=> Micro Stuttering and furthermore, all games pauses itselfs like it needs to reload or something. YES, I mean Pauses, the pause-screen do appear in every game, in short periods
I switched to Doom v10 cause i thought microstuttering came from the gpu-oc. yupp it got fixed, but still get those "Force-Pause"-Screen
B: JokaWild Rom V2.5
Kernel Doom v10 , sio and SmartAss V2 ->1107 mhz
Supercharger v6 U9Rc7 with Option 7 and 20
Link2SD, 2nd Partition fat32
=> Oh my...this is even worse. instead of microstuttering or pause-screens (which seems to be gone here) its like periodically lagging as hell.I cant really describe, its just so heavy lagging. In between though, it runs super fast (until it gets its mega lag-cycle.
now, i dont know what to do..im getting like crazy cause everything just runs ****ty....i dont even want to start with a gameloft game, cause they are already "special"....this + my lagging would turn out to a flying xperia ...if ya know what i mean
please help me, thx in advance
i do however prefer stock, cause it runs "fluentlier"...just this pause-screen-reloading-crab annoys me haaaaardd
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have you tried moving your apps to your sd card? how much internal memory do you have? have you tried other troubleshooting tips posted here in the forums?
I am using JokaWild v2.5 (see my signature for more details) and my Xplay is extremely stable and fast and no battery drain issues or lags. Have you tried factory reset in settings menu? any task killers installed? clear cache and memory? maybe you have corrupted backup and no antivirus at all?
debloat the rom? found my phone significantly sped up after deleted all the unneeded stock apps and timescape stuff.
thx bro´s and a special "salamat" to my fellow-countryman
i actually tried both of your advices too. (Besides the 400+mb trick) just no luck :/
my actual plan is to : (this is kind of a guide i guess ^^)
* Format my sdcard (16gb) to 14,3gb Fat32 - Rest ext4
* Revert to Stock 62
* Doing a Factory Reset
* Flashing Doom v10 (without baseband .36)
* After a Restart, Flashing the needed zips (like wifi-modules, bravia etc)
* Setting bfq and smartass v2
* installing the "tweak.apk" for touchscreen-tweak and gpu-home-rendering
* (Optional) the 400mb+ internal memory thing
* getting link2sd for auto-moving to 2nd partition
* reinstalling my apps
* debloating my Fw
what do u think? any tips? thx in advance
I had lag this week, R800i .42 firmware, micro-stutter, and forced pause mode on at least one game. That was Gangstar Rio, which is a very buggy game anyway, but also just web browsing caused a lot of annoying stutter. I don't use task killers, and have always had frozen bloatware since rooting. But it's working well again now after restoring a lot of stock settings:
- Downgraded Doomkernel from v11 to v10. I don't think my GPU likes being overclocked either. My 3D benchmark in Antutu was consistently a bit lower. But now it seems I can now O/C to 1.4GHz on Doomkernel v10, at the 1GHz stock voltage if I want to, I'm just not sure how comfortable I am with O/C-ing habitually.
- Un-supercharged v6 U9Rc7.
- Restored my original backup of build.prop. Something in it caused my CPU to top out at 921MHz on boot, but restoring the build.prop also seemed to make that and a lot of lag go away. I have no idea what I did to it
- Went through the options in PowerAmp and ensured anything pertaining to an auto-scan of library was switched off.
- Went back to normal CPU settings of 1017/249 ondemand. Trying the lowest clock for the min speed and SmartAssV2 gave me my one and only bootloop (may have been a coincidence).
- Uninstalled some unused games from internal memory - can retreive them from the Market or from TB if I need them. This probably made no real difference as I only gained about 5MB or so.
After a day or so, my phone runs fine now.
I am an Android newbie though, so while that worked for me, I'm not confident about my own "advice" for other people...
yeah i got this 921mhz thing on boot too, but it is fixáble by setting it to 1017 in voltage control as an init.script.
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i somehow have the feeling the lag heavily depends on the sd card. it is a sandisk cls4 which is good according to a thread here in forums but i think that there must be something wrong with it...hell i dont even know if i already exceeded the lifespan lol ^^
^ Yes I found that worked, but I didn't want to have to rely on boot scripts to fix something that wasn't broken when I was fully stock
I have a Sandisk Class 4 as well... 32GB not 16GB, but I think they're pretty tried and trusted. I read the forums heavily before buying the card as well. I've never really had lag before this week (other than when I'd just closed a heavy game like GTA, and the launcher needed to redraw etc)
exactly what i did too. i came to the idea that my sd may broke because everything feels like it needs to reload. i think sluggish is the right word to describe it.
are u using supercharger?
^ I don't have supercharger installed now, but that's mainly because my logic was to put everything back to how it was. I wasn't sure what effect it had on performance other than to keep the launcher in memory.
i can confirm that laggyness will decrease with it. but tbh in the latest rc... i think its too agressive for my device which leads me to use the old v6 u8
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yeah i got this 921mhz thing on boot too, but it is fixáble by setting it to 1017 in voltage control as an init.script.
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i somehow have the feeling the lag heavily depends on the sd card. it is a sandisk cls4 which is good according to a thread here in forums but i think that there must be something wrong with it...hell i dont even know if i already exceeded the lifespan lol ^^
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have you tried setting your read/write cache to higher than 2048? do not use voltage control or antutu I've tried those before and they only drain your battery use sytem tuner as it has everything you need. I set my read/write to 6041 and it speeds up apps loading time. I use transcend for my 16gb sd card and only costs 1.5k+ pesos. I do not use link2sd as zdbox has built in feature to move apps to sd card like app2sd. You can also try moving apps through Titanium backup. Try tweaking your startup apps as well (use system tuner). "Sakin ka maniwala kababayan"

Tweaks & questions

Hi I'm rooted and have an unlocked bootloader (CM9 RC2 with included FXP kernel). Now I'm wondering if there's any other tweaks I can do, I've heard some people talk about superchargeV6? and SmartassV2? They're suppose to improve RAM from what I understand? When I was on android 2.3.3 games and emulators ran pretty smooth, on CM9 (ICS) they're not too bad but I've noticed a bit more lag from time to time. I'm wondering if one of those RAM enhancers would help in my case. Also, are they safe? I haven't overclocked my CPU because I heard it decreases the over all lifespan of your device. I currently have 306MB of free memory on my phones internal memory ( I still have a few apps to move over btw ) and my RAM is at 177MB free. IDK if there's anything I can do to boost internal memory but surely the RAM can be improved correct? And lastly are there any files or folders on my phones internal memory I don't need? I've noticed a slight change when using Androzip (file manager) on 2.3.3 it went from "/" to "/sdcard". Now it goes from "/" to "/mnt" to "/mnt/sdcard" why is this? Is this ok?? Just some small change I noticed ( perhaps this happened when my bootloader got unlocked? ) If someone could answer these questions and guide me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
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Hi I'm rooted and have an unlocked bootloader (CM9 RC2 with included FXP kernel). Now I'm wondering if there's any other tweaks I can do, I've heard some people talk about superchargeV6? and SmartassV2? They're suppose to improve RAM from what I understand? When I was on android 2.3.3 games and emulators ran pretty smooth, on CM9 (ICS) they're not too bad but I've noticed a bit more lag from time to time. I'm wondering if one of those RAM enhancers would help in my case. Also, are they safe? I haven't overclocked my CPU because I heard it decreases the over all lifespan of your device. I currently have 306MB of free memory on my phones internal memory ( I still have a few apps to move over btw ) and my RAM is at 177MB free. IDK if there's anything I can do to boost internal memory but surely the RAM can be improved correct? And lastly are there any files or folders on my phones internal memory I don't need? I've noticed a slight change when using Androzip (file manager) on 2.3.3 it went from "/" to "/sdcard". Now it goes from "/" to "/mnt" to "/mnt/sdcard" why is this? Is this ok?? Just some small change I noticed ( perhaps this happened when my bootloader got unlocked? ) If someone could answer these questions and guide me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
-Thanks
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yes you can use v6 supercharger its easy and makes phone faster and xperia tweat app from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385236:good:
Xperia Player said:
Hi I'm rooted and have an unlocked bootloader (CM9 RC2 with included FXP kernel). Now I'm wondering if there's any other tweaks I can do, I've heard some people talk about superchargeV6? and SmartassV2? They're suppose to improve RAM from what I understand? When I was on android 2.3.3 games and emulators ran pretty smooth, on CM9 (ICS) they're not too bad but I've noticed a bit more lag from time to time. I'm wondering if one of those RAM enhancers would help in my case. Also, are they safe? I haven't overclocked my CPU because I heard it decreases the over all lifespan of your device. I currently have 306MB of free memory on my phones internal memory ( I still have a few apps to move over btw ) and my RAM is at 177MB free. IDK if there's anything I can do to boost internal memory but surely the RAM can be improved correct? And lastly are there any files or folders on my phones internal memory I don't need? I've noticed a slight change when using Androzip (file manager) on 2.3.3 it went from "/" to "/sdcard". Now it goes from "/" to "/mnt" to "/mnt/sdcard" why is this? Is this ok?? Just some small change I noticed ( perhaps this happened when my bootloader got unlocked? ) If someone could answer these questions and guide me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
-Thanks
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V6Supercharger is a script-based application that changes some settings in your phone, some of which tell Android how to pick which apps stay running and when to kill other services. Very useful and has just been updated to work better with Jellybean, if that's of any interest to anyone (other than me, that is).
smartassV2 is a cpu governor, and depending on which kernel you're using (FXP, Mjolnir, LuPuS), you may or may not have this option. smartassv2 is just one of the many options available, but the cpu governor doesn't affect your ram at all, it just affects how quickly or slowly your cpu will speed up and slow down, and when it decides that it needs to change speed.
As far as overclocking, yes, if you keep your phone clocked too high, it could damage your phone. However, given the lifespan of current phones (with newer, better ones released every few months), it's not likely that you'll cause drastic, irreparable damage to your phone should you overclock to, say, 1.1 or 1.2GHz. You could even use an app like SetCPU where the max speed can be changed based on what app is running, what time of day, certain activities you do, etc. Overclocking is just like anything else: All good things in moderation.
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V6Supercharger is a script-based application that changes some settings in your phone, some of which tell Android how to pick which apps stay running and when to kill other services. Very useful and has just been updated to work better with Jellybean, if that's of any interest to anyone (other than me, that is).
smartassV2 is a cpu governor, and depending on which kernel you're using (FXP, Mjolnir, LuPuS), you may or may not have this option. smartassv2 is just one of the many options available, but the cpu governor doesn't affect your ram at all, it just affects how quickly or slowly your cpu will speed up and slow down, and when it decides that it needs to change speed.
As far as overclocking, yes, if you keep your phone clocked too high, it could damage your phone. However, given the lifespan of current phones (with newer, better ones released every few months), it's not likely that you'll cause drastic, irreparable damage to your phone should you overclock to, say, 1.1 or 1.2GHz. You could even use an app like SetCPU where the max speed can be changed based on what app is running, what time of day, certain activities you do, etc. Overclocking is just like anything else: All good things in moderation.
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So given my situation, what specifically would you do to tweak the phones performance?
-Thanks
V6 supercharger is always nice. Beyond that, I don't know, I've been running ics or jellybean for a while now, I'm used to low ram.
Sent from my Xperia Play
lightningdude said:
V6 supercharger is always nice. Beyond that, I don't know, I've been running ics or jellybean for a while now, I'm used to low ram.
Sent from my Xperia Play
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Will V6 supercharge increase my RAM and help games and emulators run better?
Xperia Player said:
Will V6 supercharge increase my RAM and help games and emulators run better?
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The V6 Supercharger script just tries to use RAM more efficiently. It loads more things into RAM and prioritizes processes such as the launcher above less important processes. Most people experience more fluidity in the UI, mostly when switching tasks or returning to the home screen. Some people claim it helps gaming, though I've not experienced that. I suppose the more apps you have running, the more noticeable the effects will be
jacklebott said:
The V6 Supercharger script just tries to use RAM more efficiently. It loads more things into RAM and prioritizes processes such as the launcher above less important processes. Most people experience more fluidity in the UI, mostly when switching tasks or returning to the home screen. Some people claim it helps gaming, though I've not experienced that. I suppose the more apps you have running, the more noticeable the effects will be
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so is it worth installing? or perhaps another rom. I'm looking for an even balance between features, internal memory, ram etc. Just an over all better experience : /

improve gnex performance?

i have a feeling this phone is starting to show its age. it seems whenever i install more than 100 apps on this phone it just becomes laggy as hell. to the point where right now the keyboard doesn't even open until 10 seconds later and phone constantly make weird noises when using tune in radio or youtube. the phone is also so slow that it can't even run temple run 2 or any of the games that came out recently. im using xylon rom with trinity kernel for those wondering. i honestly cannot use this phone anymore without having to do a factory reset every month just to stop the lag.
this could be a sign that its time to get a new phone but for now is there anyway to improve performance at all? i already am using the fastest trinity kernel and i have tried multiple roms and all of them seems to lag after hitting 100 apps mark which is ridiculous.
Have you made sure that the phone is not running out of memory as that is what usually causes the slow problems...I too have a 100+ apps and little or no lag. Try a different kernel and Rom maybe u could also tweak the processor speeds and stuff to get your desired performance...
If I helped hit thx
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Flash stock factory ROM and do a full wipe.
If you want later then flash custom ROM which is "STABLE".
Then make sure you have enough free memory on your Nexus's internal memory to avoid the lags.
You actually can't improve your Nexus's performance any other way, tweaks speed up very much..
I have over 60 apps installed (usually apps that I need) and some games..
I have 1.4 GB free memory on My Nexus and I use some cleaner apps to get more free space and I don't have any lags..
I use stock ROM that I've modified and stock default kernel..
The hardware slows primarily because of software (apps). Once the hardware fails, it fails.
Check and reign in the number and frequency of apps that sync, update and or check in.
Are you syncing an email client and or keeping them on the device rather than say the Exchange server?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
kudoboi said:
i have a feeling this phone is starting to show its age. it seems whenever i install more than 100 apps on this phone it just becomes laggy as hell. to the point where right now the keyboard doesn't even open until 10 seconds later and phone constantly make weird noises when using tune in radio or youtube. the phone is also so slow that it can't even run temple run 2 or any of the games that came out recently. im using xylon rom with trinity kernel for those wondering. i honestly cannot use this phone anymore without having to do a factory reset every month just to stop the lag.
this could be a sign that its time to get a new phone but for now is there anyway to improve performance at all? i already am using the fastest trinity kernel and i have tried multiple roms and all of them seems to lag after hitting 100 apps mark which is ridiculous.
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I have 276 apps on my Nexus and (perceived) performance is better than ever using XENON HD Stable-4.0 and the Franco kernel r364. For the latest update of the ROM, I decided to risk a dirty flash. I seem to have gotten away with it. Performance "feels" excellent, whatever that is worth. My last factory reset was about 2 months ago.
The ROM and kernel have a variety of performance tweaks. I wish there was a way to benchmark performance in a controlled fashion. I hate feeling and perception in the performance department.
On the new ROM, WiFI performance is now solidly pegged at my account's limit of 30 MBs. It was all over the map before, although I realize that many factors affect the Speed Test app.
The "seeder" app helped a lot for my device in reducing lag. The overall community is sharply divided about the effectiveness of the seeder: YMMV. Its worth trying, though. I've been using it for about 6 weeks. Other than the Google Play Store updates, I don't have lag any more. Before the seeder, I felt like you -- the phone was almost unusable.
Regarding the device feeling dated, this ROM supports the expanded desktop and the pie. Wow, the phone feels new again. No kidding.
smtom said:
The hardware slows primarily because of software (apps). Once the hardware fails, it fails.
Check and reign in the number and frequency of apps that sync, update and or check in.
Are you syncing an email client and or keeping them on the device rather than say the Exchange server?
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I also observed that the apps that run sync/update/check in were slowing down the phone. Check for apps that have daemons associated with them. Decide whether its worth having.

[Q] How much RAM do you have for apps?

I'm asking because I'm frequently out of RAM, causing extreme lags and launcher reboots. I know the CPU reserves 300MB, leaving 700MB, but how much do ROMs typically occupy? Any recommendation for leaner ROMs? Or perhaps there are modifications to enable more aggressive task killing (non-background tasks)?
843 said:
I'm asking because I'm frequently out of RAM, causing extreme lags and launcher reboots. I know the CPU reserves 300MB, leaving 700MB, but how much do ROMs typically occupy? Any recommendation for leaner ROMs? Or perhaps there are modifications to enable more aggressive task killing (non-background tasks)?
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Run out of RAM? never again with this Mod
Gnex Supported! :good::good::good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145133
How would that work since my GNex doesn't have an SD card? Isn't everything on the same internal memory?
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How would that work since my GNex doesn't have an SD card? Isn't everything on the same internal memory?
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First of all, that mod puts it in /system, /data and/or /cache. So it doesn't even try to use the sd card regardless.
Second, I just thought i would try it out and it throws out an error "incompatible with your device Galaxy Nexus (toro).
I figured maybe i would give swapper 2 a go again. It hasn't been updated in ages, but it seems to work. You can leave it on sdcard (which is just internal memory anyway) or change the directory to any you want. I changed mine to /cache since my sdcard is kind of full. Can even change the swapiness within the app. Only downside is the limit for it is 256mb. So far it seems to be working properly on Verizon Galaxy Nexus stock, rooted, 4.1.1 with lean kernel.
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I have done some tinkering. What seems to work for me is limiting background processes to 4 or less. These turn out to be cached processes which keep opened apps open. They eat up your remaining RAM and should ideally be removed if an app you're trying to run demands it. However, the removal process causes significant lag, possibly due to the slow internal memory the GNex has.
I'm running CM10 (4.1.2), and I have 245MB free right now. It has gone down to as low as 150MB, but rarely below. When using 4.2.2 based roms, I get as low as 40-50MB, which causes problems. I don't have high hopes for 4.3 right now.

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