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I hear a lot of contradictions about whether or not unlocked Samsung phones not being used on their original network are prompted for updates. In my case I have a branded AT&T Focus on Bell Canada's network. So far, no prompts on the phone and Zune tells me 7004 is the current phone software version.
Have you been prompted so far?
Thanks in advance.
Pat
I have a Focus, live in costa Rica and the exact same thing happens to me...
I have a developer unlocked omnia 7 on orange in the uk and i got the update the day it came out, through zune software
bizpat72 said:
I hear a lot of contradictions about whether or not unlocked Samsung phones not being used on their original network are prompted for updates. In my case I have a branded AT&T Focus on Bell Canada's network. So far, no prompts on the phone and Zune tells me 7004 is the current phone software version.
Have you been prompted so far?
Thanks in advance.
Pat
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im on the same boat.
but iirc some people said it could take weeks to get the update, and since they paused because of the issues with samsung phones idk if we are screwed or we just have to wait.
I've got an unlocked, unbranded Omnia 7 on dutch Telfort.
I didn't get a prompt on my phone, but when I tried manually trough the Zune software I directly got it.
same here. no updates so far. hope i get nodo, i dont care about feb useless update =\
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I can officially confirm that until you perform the following hack on your unlocked Focus, you will not be prompted for an upgrade.
As soon as I did this hack, rebooted and connected to Zune I was instantly prompted for Pre NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004487
Pat
When you do the registry hack and unbrand it, you should get a pop-up/over the air notification on your phone that there is an update. Mine did.
bizpat72 said:
I can officially confirm that until you perform the following hack on your unlocked Focus, you will not be prompted for an upgrade.
As soon as I did this hack, rebooted and connected to Zune I was instantly prompted for Pre NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004487
Pat
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Same. Now for the Nodo update. Maybe if I fake the location of my phone . . .
bizpat72 said:
I can officially confirm that until you perform the following hack on your unlocked Focus, you will not be prompted for an upgrade.
As soon as I did this hack, rebooted and connected to Zune I was instantly prompted for Pre NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004487
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came to post the same.
after unbranding got the pre nodo too.
Hi guys. well whats happened is I just updated my trophy to the next version of mango, but I just saw on the windows phone news that a firmware update for vodafone trophys (which im on) just got pushed out. So now I'm pretty much stuck since I really want this firmware update since it says it address's battery life issues (trophy has alot of them) and its not showing up.
thanks in advance,
also, is it just me or has the whole trophy general forum just disappeared? I cant seem to find it at all anymore.
There was a message that went out a day or two ago that several forums (I think including the Trophy forum) were being moved to the low activity area. You might check there.
sambaman009 said:
Hi guys. well whats happened is I just updated my trophy to the next version of mango, but I just saw on the windows phone news that a firmware update for vodafone trophys (which im on) just got pushed out. So now I'm pretty much stuck since I really want this firmware update since it says it address's battery life issues (trophy has alot of them) and its not showing up.
thanks in advance,
also, is it just me or has the whole trophy general forum just disappeared? I cant seem to find it at all anymore.
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You WON'T get the firmware until you downgrade, but I suggest waiting for Mango RTM before doing so.
Also, the HTC Trophy forum (along with many other Windows Phone's) have for some reason been moved to the Legacy Devices forum.
ok so I should just wait for mango RTM then the update should be there? I hope
and thanks, ill take a look there
I think what day2die is saying is that, before you can get the final Mango update, you are going to have to roll back to NoDo anyway. At that point, you should be able to get the Trophy update from HTC, since you will be back on the official update path.
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I think what day2die is saying is that, before you can get the final Mango update, you are going to have to roll back to NoDo anyway. At that point, you should be able to get the Trophy update from HTC, since you will be back on the official update path.
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Exactly what I intended to say. Thanks, RoboDad.
ahh ok thanks guys, also I never really understood something. When I go back to my premangostate files, will I lose all the apps I installed since then?
You won't lose them, in the sense that you won't need to repurchase them, but you will need to reinstall them.
You will lose a number of things, though, that you can't get back. Any activity on your phone since installing the Mango beta, including text messages, documents created on the phone that haven't been synced anywhere, and game saves/progress will be erased. And, of course, any changes you made to the settings of your phone, or to the settings of any installed app, will also revert back to their pre-Mango state.
Basically, after rolling back to pre-Mango, your phone should look exactly like it did the day before you installed Mango.
It is for these reasons that I decided not to run the Mango beta.
Hey everybody,
I have an LG optimus 7 on TELUS that is running the leaked RTM. I just checked, and now the update is available. It was unclear if the leaked RTM would update. before i hit the go button.
anything i should do?
fiddler2 or something for cabs.... im not sure but want to make sure i giv devs a chance to get anything they might want.. im not sure how to do this on my own, im great at following directions tho.
*edit*
its called "LG update for windows phone" Im not really sure which update this is. because i don't remember it
*edit*
saved my fiddler2 session if anyone wants it. update went fine. i dont really notice any changes?
I got the same notification of an HTC update for Windows Phone....
I tried to update but got the error code 801811A3
I'm going to uninstall zune and try a fresh install.
Edit: HD7 on Tmobile - Leaked RTM
Edit 2: It's our firewall at work. Go figure. Time to find a workaround for this.
Also, the release page from microsoft for the mango 7.5 release is updated to deploying on all carriers today.
I got thesame for HTC. Mine succeeded and now does not show any further updates... I have checked but... I don't see a difference on my phone...
For those with the Arrive... on the ABOUT option, before the update... is there any information on the "help contacts" part for SPRINT?
Just wondering if this information was there with the leaked RTM...
I have RTM, just got the update notification aswell.
Zune is at stp 6 out of 10 atm.
It failed to reconnect at step 6, so I unplugge the phone and rebooted it, zhile the HTC screen showed I connected the USB cable and it resumed
well.. im not sure if im doing this at all right. installed fiddler2. its running
and im doing the update. so far so good 7 of 10. creating backup.
im guessing everyone who posted so far is carrier unlocked?
maybe be the reason we are seeing the update. even tho we have leaked mango.
almost done, phone is restarting.
Had 7720.68 Leaked RTM, upgraded to Mango carrier release fine.... No issues (besides losing 3G service)
And Walsh tweeted it
Caught it on the web and I immediately took my fedora hdd out of my systems an popped in my win7
I also had the update message and updated via zune. Zune always shows version 7.1, is this OK?
Should i revert to NODO and update again via zune?
Or i'm done?
I have an open/unlocked OMNIA7.
BR, swefla
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
swefla said:
I also had the update message and updated via zune. Zune always shows version 7.1, is this OK?
Should i revert to NODO and update again via zune?
Or i'm done?
I have an open/unlocked OMNIA7.
BR, swefla
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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I was on 7712 beta and updated through Zune to official 7720.
Before update I was unlocked and I stayed unlocked after the update.
I was on the leaked RTM and got the HTC Update for my Arrive. The only thing that worries me even though this looks like a fully Sprint branded update (as seen from the new support stuff in the About screen) is that it did nothing to remove the "provision" part of the update as talked about in the Windows Phone Blog for updating from 7012. If the move to RTM from 7012 fixed it already, then I am not worries, but if so, us early RTM adopters may just have to jump back to NoDo (since I didn't force an update before going leaked RTM) and get the official updates through that method.
One thing I did notice is I did get various little updates this summer while on the Mango Beta, so device specific updates may have already been done or no others may have been released for the Arrive till today. Hmm.
I just wish they would get the MyPhone ability to backup SMS messages so I can do a clean wipe and not loose every convo I have had (not important generally, but I like to keep them around.)
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I was on the leaked RTM and got the HTC Update for my Arrive. The only thing that worries me even though this looks like a fully Sprint branded update (as seen from the new support stuff in the About screen) is that it did nothing to remove the "provision" part of the update as talked about in the Windows Phone Blog for updating from 7012. If the move to RTM from 7012 fixed it already, then I am not worries, but if so, us early RTM adopters may just have to jump back to NoDo (since I didn't force an update before going leaked RTM) and get the official updates through that method.
One thing I did notice is I did get various little updates this summer while on the Mango Beta, so device specific updates may have already been done or no others may have been released for the Arrive till today. Hmm.
I just wish they would get the MyPhone ability to backup SMS messages so I can do a clean wipe and not loose every convo I have had (not important generally, but I like to keep them around.)
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To All,
The LG, Samsung, and HTC Updates are just firmware updates.. Those aren't the cleanup updates or the Official Mango updates.
I've actually received the Samsung Update whenever I updated to 7720 leaked a month and a half ago. All it did was update the firmware and give me a new diagnosis app.
sadoway said:
im guessing everyone who posted so far is carrier unlocked?
maybe be the reason we are seeing the update. even tho we have leaked mango.
almost done, phone is restarting.
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Nah, I got the HTC Arrive from SPRINT... had the 7712 DEV PREVIEW and when RTM was leaked I jumped into it... So I have been on 7720.68 all along... I still received an update via Zune but it was an HTC DEVICE update... no actual MICROSOFT update...
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Nah, I got the HTC Arrive from SPRINT... had the 7712 DEV PREVIEW and when RTM was leaked I jumped into it... So I have been on 7720.68 all along... I still received an update via Zune but it was an HTC DEVICE update... no actual MICROSOFT update...
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im starting to think this is the case
snickler said:
To All,
The LG, Samsung, and HTC Updates are just firmware updates.. Those aren't the cleanup updates or the Official Mango updates.
I've actually received the Samsung Update whenever I updated to 7720 leaked a month and a half ago. All it did was update the firmware and give me a new diagnosis app.
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I received a samsung firmware update straight after going to rtm, and just now I got another firmware update, but unfortunately it does not do much. My camera button is now disabled for quicklaunch (even though the setting is on :S) also the AllShare app still does not work.
I do think Ill have to flash back since zune now says up to date.
Guys, I'm on Telus with unbranded Optimus 7 phone running on RTM mango. I also got the update a few minutes ago by going into Zune and checking for updates. But this is not the mango update. But, all is not loos, this a was a pretty good firmware update. You see, I had installed the mango compass app a couple weeks ago and it was not working on my Optimus 7. After verifying all the forums, the necessary drivers were not on my ROM or any other ROM for that matter of fact. After the update, guess what? My compass application works great! I would assume that this update, updates all necessary drivers for Mango API's compatibility.
Now what I'm wondering is since I now have an Optimus "compatible" mango... Should I still try to get the latest Mango build being deployed today? Will I get hidden Wifi? Will I get WIFI hotspot?
Regards!
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I received a samsung firmware update straight after going to rtm, and just now I got another firmware update, but unfortunately it does not do much. My camera button is now disabled for quicklaunch (even though the setting is on :S) also the AllShare app still does not work.
I do think Ill have to flash back since zune now says up to date.
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Flash back to 7712 do the 7720 update through zune.. See if you get the cleanup tool. If you get that Cleanup tool, use fiddler and get the update cabs and post the links.
Marvin_S said:
I received a samsung firmware update straight after going to rtm, and just now I got another firmware update, but unfortunately it does not do much. My camera button is now disabled for quicklaunch (even though the setting is on :S) also the AllShare app still does not work.
I do think Ill have to flash back since zune now says up to date.
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I didn't get an update after updating to the RTM leak, but I did get one today. Hidden Wifi is there now, Camera focus is working now in Bing Vision, and the Camera Button still works.
AllShare and AdvancedTextMessage from Samsung still don't work.
singularity0821 said:
I didn't get an update after updating to the RTM leak, but I did get one today. Hidden Wifi is there now, Camera focus is working now in Bing Vision, and the Camera Button still works.
AllShare and AdvancedTextMessage from Samsung still don't work.
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Oke than I assume the update is just to the final mango and allshare is just not supported on Omnia7??
Camera thing is weird I changed the settings but seems to not do anything. Where can I test hidden WIFI?
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hidden WiFi is there indeed. Camera button still works, it just takes 2 times as long and I am inpatient apparantly seems like the real deal, full mango...
Marvin_S said:
Oke than I assume the update is just to the final mango and allshare is just not supported on Omnia7??
Camera thing is weird I changed the settings but seems to not do anything. Where can I test hidden WIFI?
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Turn on WiFi then click advanced, you should have a + button to Add at the bottom now.
I have a HTC HD7 on O2 in the UK and i'm on the OS 7.0.7401.0 and every time i plug my phone into zune it says my phone is up to date! should i flash a custom rom or is the update not out for me yet? ive spoke to o2 and they said it was sospose to be out on the 14th for, but it isnt...
Help please!
I believe Microsoft is progressively rolling out the Mango update, so not everyone has it yet. There is a way you can force the update legitimately through Zune however.
Google "force Mango update" and the first link should be WPCentral where instructions are there. I'd link you, but since I'm new I can't.
Folllow those directions. It isn't gauranteed to work, it didn't work for me.
Microsoft has announced they will no longer document update releases by carriers, but this is still useful information, so now we must keep track ourselves to know which carriers are lagging behind.
Feel free to edit this spreadsheet when you have received an update notice on your carrier (no login required):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuPW6_Ouc0FidG53dGQ1al9JbGtQWnQ2TTR2Q1pGaGc
Cheers
Looks Great. Although I would suggest that they are completly sorted by Country, then Carrier and then device I guess this is fine for a first version.
Maybe someone can add these changes later with the help of this forum.
Anyway, today I received 8107 but only after using the cable/network disconnect trick on my PC. Should I still mark it as delivering update?
As long as you haven't changed your branding or your ROM to a different carrier, then you can add that your carrier is delivering the update.
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Looks Great. Although I would suggest that they are completly sorted by Country, then Carrier and then device I guess this is fine for a first version.
Maybe someone can add these changes later with the help of this forum.
Anyway, today I received 8107 but only after using the cable/network disconnect trick on my PC. Should I still mark it as delivering update?
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hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
iosub said:
hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
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Unbranded probably wont get the update as there is no one to request it for you! I think that is how it is. I've forced the update on my Titan and worked perfectly fine. Very simple steps. There is link etc in the Titan forum as well as here somewhere.
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Unbranded probably wont get the update as there is no one to request it for you! I think that is how it is. I've forced the update on my Titan and worked perfectly fine. Very simple steps. There is link etc in the Titan forum as well as here somewhere.
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hi the trick is to disconnect the WiFi (1-2 sec) on the PC after click update,right?
btw, do you have the wifi or 3g on, in the phone?
thanks
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hi, what phone model ? Branded or unbrander ?
I have a titan unbranded, I have try the disconnect trick but it does not work :-(
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I have a Vodafone Germany branded LG E900.
iosub said:
hi the trick is to disconnect the WiFi (1-2 sec) on the PC after click update,right?
btw, do you have the wifi or 3g on, in the phone?
thanks
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You disconnect your PC from the Internet (in my case via network cable) shortly after you start searching for updates via Zune. I actually disconnected about 5 seconds after searching started, but you can try out what works for you.
I had WiFi enabled and cellular data connection disabled (no 3G and no EDGE), although I only disabled cellular data due to my prepaid flat expiring.
can confirm that unbranded/open market phones not get the 8107 update
omnia 7 -> no update availible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance.
dell venue pro -> no update avaible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance
both no carrier brandings.
I am pissed a lot about microsofts way to schedule udpates to the people, nobody knows where and why any update will arive and there are everywhere anoyiing bugs in wp (keyboard) -> user experience is an F
What does it mean, open phones no update??? no update now, or no update never ever?? Anyway, we pay more for a open phone, to get more updates and even sooner, and at the end, we are the last.
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can confirm that unbranded/open market phones not get the 8107 update
omnia 7 -> no update availible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance.
dell venue pro -> no update avaible in germany, even with cable trick, no chance
both no carrier brandings.
I am pissed a lot about microsofts way to schedule udpates to the people, nobody knows where and why any update will arive and there are everywhere anoyiing bugs in wp (keyboard) -> user experience is an F
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What does it mean, open phones no update??? no update now, or no update never ever?? Anyway, we pay more for a open phone, to get more updates and even sooner, and at the end, we are the last.
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I think open phones now get the updates much easily! We only need one carrier to release update and then using cab sender it updates right away! I did that with my unbranded Titan and it only took 8-9 minutes from point A to point B!
there is currectly no update delivery, maybe in the future but if you see microsoft community manager any carrier has to request the update ... but theres no carrier for open market phones, whats the obvious? Open market phones dont receive this update ever and get it maybe with the next (tango?) update.
send a tweet to
Lets send a tweet to @joebelfiore
@joebelfiore my HTC titan is unbranded #wp7 how can I get the 8107 update If is carried depended ?
Iosu
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drupad2drupad said:
I think open phones now get the updates much easily! We only need one carrier to release update and then using cab sender it updates right away! I did that with my unbranded Titan and it only took 8-9 minutes from point A to point B!
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I think that is a dangerous method.. If you don't update all the language cabs..
You may not get next HTC update..
So open phones users, we are screwed or what? i got the 7740 update right away. but until now no theethering for example.
yes this is the actual situation, some unbranded phones may not become wlan tethering because it depends on carrier request and dont get the 8107 update (on the official way...with hacks you can have both but this is not the point why i choose windows phone)
sad to see microsoft destroys its own system and screw away their fans
I've got a Samsung Focus (originally a Rogers phone) unlocked and using on Bell Canada network.
I did the wifi disconnect trick and got the 7740 update...doesn't this mean Roger is delivering it?
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yes this is the actual situation, some unbranded phones may not become wlan tethering because it depends on carrier request and dont get the 8107 update (on the official way...with hacks you can have both but this is not the point why i choose windows phone)
sad to see microsoft destroys its own system and screw away their fans
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for tethering you need OEM driver update it's not only OS depended
Iosu
Samsung had the driver ready even before Mango started rolling out. In the official rollout drivers update was already softap implemented and working . I got some ROM that had older OEM drivers date than the Mango rollout and it was there too.
On the other hand, HTC was playing bad and didn't include it. No idea how LG and Dell...
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for tethering you need OEM driver update it's not only OS depended
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i know...but if i use hack i can use internet sharing...if i dont, i am not able to use it
even on german telekom the omnia 7 users got internet sharing
i have german telekom sim but unbranded omnia 7 and dont got it
i know that the dell venue pro is not capable for this feature but omnia 7 was before mango!
When i look at 2 friends, one with branded telekom and one unbranded, both got internet sharing and no one can tell why my friend with unbranded got the update and i am not.
its not the lack of the feature, because i dont care about wlan tethering but who pushs the updates? Microsoft and they hold it back, a total inconsistents in the update process...like with 7740 as os update or even more worse the 8107 update
-> tested the cab sender and all seems to be fine for me but restored my backup because i want it on the official way and not this. I paid not only for the device, for the os, too! The update experience is just bull**** with wp, android doin it better because i can choose nexus phone (never thought i say this) and get every update immediatelly and apple do it the best way since now.
Looks like my next phone will be no windows phone, regardless that i like the system but i dont get what was promised and what i get.
The big issue here is how to confirm all this data.
Maybe some of the information is wrong.
I guess I'll try to keep the Sasktel (Canada) section current. I'm guessing there aren't too many Sasktel people on here with windows phones but I could be surprised.
Also +1 on being annoyed with this whole carrier requested updates.
At least we'll be able to come here to see what's officially available.