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[Q] Few questions about root and cwm3

I have read through this forum and I am still unclear about a few things. First off I have a vibrant and have been flashing roms/themes, ect. I just got a epic 4g and get things straight before flashing.
1. The epic is completely stock, can i just use z4 root then flash cwm from rom manager on market? Or do I need a different kernel first? If I do need a new kernel, could I just use one of the kernel flashers on the market like SGS Flasher so I do not need to use odin?
Every thread I have seen has been mentioning using odin for the root/cwm 3 process. I have a macbook pro and my desktop pc is ancient so I try to avoid using odin whenever possible.
2. Just to confirm, is it really hard to actually brick this phone? I have messed around with my Vibrant, soft bricking it a few times but never had a problem restoring a stock rom.
3. Once rooted and cwm mod flashed I can go to any rom right?
Thanks and I know there are very similar questions already posted, I just wanted to be 100% clear because some answers were really vague.

You can use z4root but you can't install cwm with rom manager on stock kernel. It is really hard to brick the epic and yes once rooted with cwm you can get to flashing. Odin is used just to flash stock roms. I used it to flash the dk28 froyo rom and I only use it if I have to. Try to get your hands on a windows computer to root it with cwm. You can run the root plus cwm that is stickied in the development section. Once that is done you are ready to go. Good luck

Im in the exact same boat dude. I've had mine for about 4 days and still haven't done anything else but update to DK28. I did the z4root first, then thee next day I did the update. Now my SU doesn't work and I can't unroot using z4root. Phone just starts to vibrate and then I get a FC. I dunno, going to have to odin once I get some time. Really diggin my epic, but the vibrant was so simple and fun.
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rrodxbox360repair said:
I have read through this forum and I am still unclear about a few things. First off I have a vibrant and have been flashing roms/themes, ect. I just got a epic 4g and get things straight before flashing.
1. The epic is completely stock, can i just use z4 root then flash cwm from rom manager on market? Or do I need a different kernel first? If I do need a new kernel, could I just use one of the kernel flashers on the market like SGS Flasher so I do not need to use odin?
Every thread I have seen has been mentioning using odin for the root/cwm 3 process. I have a macbook pro and my desktop pc is ancient so I try to avoid using odin whenever possible.
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While you may be able to use z4root to to root your phone, like musclehead84, I am under the impression that you can't install CWM through Rom Manager on the stock kernel (LINK supporting this, I may be wrong though). It may work with other kernels, but to flash those kernels, you need CWM... kind of a Catch 22. Not sure if SGS Flasher will work for flashing a new kernel, but if I recall correctly, I remember reading atleast one thread resulting the need for a restore after using SGS Flasher (Odin or Nandroid, can't remember which).
And your not using Odin for root/CWM, your using adb (included with the one click root and CWM download), which I believe can be run from the terminal on a Mac with the right adb version ('one click' OSX LINK using older joey-krim root method, but if your flashing a new pre-rooted rom anyway, will work fine).
2. Just to confirm, is it really hard to actually brick this phone? I have messed around with my Vibrant, soft bricking it a few times but never had a problem restoring a stock rom.
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Yes, it is fairly hard to actually brick the Epic. If you have issues flashing your phone with Odin, the most likely culprit will be the usb cable. I have also read others having luck with removing the micro sd card before flashing, or even booting into download mode (which is done by holding '1' on the keyboard while pressing the power button) while leaving the battery removed.
3. Once rooted and cwm mod flashed I can go to any rom right?
Thanks and I know there are very similar questions already posted, I just wanted to be 100% clear because some answers were really vague.
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Yes, with a couple caveat's... If your flashing a froyo rom, you will need to make sure you also atleast update the modem to the proper one (i.e. DK28) using Odin, or flash the leaked 'official' beta update.zip while on a stock DI18 to take you to DK28 with modem, (LINK with instructions, would do this before bothering to root or anything though). And if you decide to convert to EXT4 (DK28 only), that's a whole other story.

Odin flashing question

I want to flash the EC05 rom. I found one that is prerooted and can be flashed using odin but it is RFS only. However, the phone was previously flashed with cm3 and converted to ext4. If I flash it using the method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209 with CM 2.5 can I then flash up to the EC05 using odin? Or is there no way to go back to RFS? I am very new to doing things with the epic and I have been looking around for a stock EC05 that supports ext4 that I could just flash from the CM 3 recovery but haven't found one yet.

Odin does not care what is currently on your phone. If you flash the Pre-rooted EC05, it will overwrite what is currently on your phone.

That is what I thought but I wasn't sure. I think I have pretty much convinced my brother to just let me flash it with a custom EC05 rom that supports CM3 such as syndicate or midnight.

Let us know how it goes, I have seen quite a few customers who did the EC05 OTA really screw up their devices, radio dropping and power cycling quite a bit.

ONE OF THEM HERE! ! ! the EC05 ota update turn my phone into a slow waste of technology! Fortunte really because it made me root and flash ROMs.
in regards to the pre-rooted EC05.... i have yet to add this to my arsenal... if anyone has a link handy id appreciate it.
just flashed back to DK28 for the Ironman ROM......would recommend, all i can say is whoa! ! !

Best way to get ROOT and keep stock kernel?

Hey guys. I actually don't even have this phone yet but will be getting it shortly. I definitely want to root it (I have a rooted EVO 4G and Xoom tablet) I'm a little confused though about the different methods I'm seeing.
My goal is to obtain a fully rooted phone w/ stock everything. What is the best method to do this?

ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348

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ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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Sorry for the noob question but when I watch Qbking's video on this kernel he says you need to be rooted and have CWM installed to flash the kernel. But what you're saying is this kernel can provide root, add CWM and flash the kernel if you use Odin to do it? If so, I'm right in saying I'd want to download the TAR file rather than the ZIP? For root, would I need to flash SuperUser via CWM or is it built into the kernel?
I've been thinking about jumping into root soon to try out the Starburst ROM and I've evaluating the cleanest way to gain Root + CWM. I was thinking about using Bubby's method, but this seems solid too if my assumptions above are correct. This would be my first Android root by the way so I'm being patient and extra careful.

I just got this phone recently and rooted it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268548
thats a really good place to start. but to be honest every time you use odin and you flash a kernal in odin you'll get an annoying Yellow triangle that pops up in the beggining. So Your best bet is to flash to a kernal to gain root then flash the kernal from the unroot tutorial as if your unrooting the phone it wont remove superuser.apk automatically, and it will remove the yellow triangle, then from that point just use either cwm or the zimage flasher from adb to do it.
My recommended steps are
this one first for gaining root
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExN-Y2pfxA
then this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySskTt-S-cM
Follow links in youtube description.
after you do that, don't use odin anymore just use cwm and that adb script for changing kernals and you'll never get that annoying triangle again.
Also be aware that everytime you flash with odin the phones bootloader records that you flashed it, meaning even if you take it back to stock if sprint wants to look at it for warranty purposes they can still see that you did something to it. which means that youll need a $2 jig to wipe that count which I don't even know where that is.
If you can use a temp root thats used for 2.3 gingerbread on other devices then use second link in youtube to avoid using odin, I kinda wished I knew before because then I would have done some more experimenting with the phone. so annoying, I have control of this device and at the same time not which really sucks!
Edit BTW: Why use the starburst rom it doesnt really look that snazy to me for me to consider jumping to it the stock one works great why not just flash a deodex stock one and flash a theme to it, theres some really sick themes in the theme section of xda check it out! XD

Smoked600 said:
ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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I had some wake lag (about 2 second delay between pressing the power button and screen turning on) with the LoStKernel, so I've been running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284511
It's been working well for me so far. You'll have to get root access first, so try out the LoStKernel to gain root access and if you don't like it switch to this.

[Q] need some help..

I feel helpless now, sorry ahead of time if someone instantly redirects me to a section of the website. I've been searching forums for almost 5 hours now and have gotten nowhere. I sent my phone in to get the brick fixed and had him root it at the same time... I'm running 2.3.4 kernel version 2.6.35.7 gb.eh17? So i'm assuming this is a stock rom? I have no cwm for my phone, i haven't been able to flash it or install it whatsoever, I get failed signature everytime. Now I understand that 2e as opposed to 3e (which I have) allows unsigned files to be installed, but I haven't been able to find a way to revert back to that.. There's kernels that I can download that come with cwm but those have root files in them too.. will this mess anything up? could I flash a kernel to my phone with the root files and in turn have cwm working? how do I know what kernels will work for my phone and firmware version specifically? I just want to do cool things to my phone now! I'm feeling i've wasted money to have it rooted since I can't do a damn thing with it right now.. SORRY for the long post, it's been 5 hours of running in circles and i'm quite frustrated. Any help at all is very much appreciated!!!

Lots of questions. First of all you can't flash anything in stock recovery not put out by Sprint or Samsung. Next you will need to use Odin to install CWM since no one click version works with GB. EH17 is a leaked ROM not official. Official version of GB is EI22. You can Odin in an EC05 ROM prerooted and then flash a EI22 prerooted ROM then if you want to change the modem flash the EC05toEI22 modem file. Here are some threads to help you:
Odin and how to use it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
EC05plus ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061912&highlight=ec05plus
Modems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123103
This method you will lose all data so make sure your contacts are on Google and not the phone. Or export your contacts to the sd card.

thanks!! the links are broken but I believe I know where to go with this now, all I have to do is install a new rom/cwm via odin? which will just replace my stock "rom" I guess. I've been scared to even think about that considering that's how I bricked it the first time. Thanks for your time!

Which links are broken? If you are able to get into download mode it is never bricked.
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02 root cwm to el29 last few questions please

OK, i used auto root for rooting 02 and installing cwm recovery. then i installed the hotspot mod. perfect, everything working as expected. well now im getting the update nag. sorry for asking repetitive questions, but i want to be sure i have this correct first.
so if i run preroot el29 one click and preserve user data, it will be like the ota update but with root?? then i need to go back into the autoroot option c to get cwm recovery installed again??
will the nag screen go away then for the update??
doing these steps will get me back to root, cwm, and the latest "ota" update?
thanks so much for the time,
Joel

You got it! If you do exactly what you said you will be stock el29 rooted with cwm and you won't get nagged to install an update anymore.

If you'd like to test it out, I put together a rooted EL29 OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473538
The advantage is it will patch your existing ROM rather than overwrite your ROM.
There are 2 versions provided. One is rooted. The other is rooted+CWM.
Keep in mind the only repacked EL29+CWM available is Rogue, which supports custom boot animations. The way it is configured, it uses the default Android logo boot animation. Nothing was changed on your ROM, the Sprint 4G animation is still there, just the initialization of the bootanimation was changed.

thanks guys, the rooted el29 and guide is in the sig odin el29 correct??
[ODIN][TAR] SPH-D710.EL29_CL852097 (EL29 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Full Restore - Rooted) ??
the rooted update sounds good, will that keep my cwm, or i need to reinstall it??
where can i find the update to patch my rom?? will i loose my root or cwm or anything with that one?? just need el29 to hotspot again, and root.
thanks again,
Joel
a14) EL29 OTA (patch EK02->EL29) - Sprint OTA [stock recovery] is that the patch method ?? then if i run the check and go that route, i loose root and cwm??
does rootkeeper work for going from 02 to 29 ??
ok found the [CWM][OTA][EK02->EL29] Rooted EL29 OTA update (patches your existing ROM) thread. soooo do i want the cwm option?? i will loose my old one or does this update it??
k, ran compliance check and failed system/framework.framework jar and odex and service odex. does that eliminate the patch?? i think the only thing was installing the hotspot hack.
42 years on the planet and i feel like its 42 days sometimes. heh

JS_racer said:
ok found the [CWM][OTA][EK02->EL29] Rooted EL29 OTA update (patches your existing ROM) thread. soooo do i want the cwm option?? i will loose my old one or does this update it??
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Yes, that is the one, I forgot to put the link earlier.
There is only one CWM repacked with EL29 right now. It is Rogue CWM. You could run CWM repacked with an earlier kernel if you'd like, but if you want the EL29 kernel, there is just one choice. They also have a recompiled kernel based on EL29.

k, ran compliance check and failed system/framework.framework jar and odex and service odex. does that eliminate the patch?? i think the only thing was installing the hotspot hack

JS_racer said:
k, ran compliance check and failed system/framework.framework jar and odex and service odex. does that eliminate the patch?? i think the only thing was installing the hotspot hack
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Well if you put the old ones back in place either because you backed up the file or did a nandroid backup prior to installing the hotspot hack, then you could put those back in place and run the rooted OTA. Otherwise go with one of the full updates that don't care what you currently have.

thanks so much, did the one click el29, still up and running so thats good.
was there anything funny with the cwm el29 from autoroot option c?? bootlogo or anything or it will look just like before. i have the hotspot files to transfer, guess just the jar files. should i do them by hand or install the cwm and install from sd and backup again ??
thanks so much for everything, much appreciated
Joel

Rogue CWM supports custom boot animation and it is initialized with the standard android bootlogo by default. That's the only stock EL29 repacked with CWM right now.
If it bothers you, you could run stock El29 and just install CWM when you need it, or you could install EL26+CWM (chris41gs repack) or I could dig up something to use the Sprint 4g animation. All the files are still there, just the initialization changed.

damn that was spooky, got stuck at the galaxy logo after a botched copy file operation. guess i need cwm to update the hotspot.
hit the oneclick 29 again, and it worked, damn.