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WHERE does the android market keep the list of apps you have installed?

WHERE does the android market keep the list of apps you have installed?

SteelH said:
WHERE does the android market keep the list of apps you have installed?
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Seriously? It's under the "downloads" tab...

Brutus2TheMax said:
Seriously? It's under the "downloads" tab...
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HAHAHAHA

Android Market
It's actually a pretty good question.I've run quite a few different roms in the last month or so and even though I back everything up,the Market seems to lose apps that I've purchased from time to time.Would be nice to know if there's a way to retrieve them online or if we just need to keep buying them over and over.

Brutus2TheMax said:
Seriously? It's under the "downloads" tab...
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Yes seriously. You answer was anything but. I want to where they are stored. Hitting the downloads tab shows a list of them, it doesn't show WHERE.

Download Astro File Browser and use the built-in search feature. Make sure it is scanning the whole system and not just your SD card.
This should tell you where they are downloaded and stored.

This question is highly ambiguous. You may want to refine.
I think he means, if you wipe and install a new ROM, the first time you go into the market, it will remember the apps you DID have installed.
Where is that stored?

Bielinsk said:
This question is highly ambiguous. You may want to refine.
I think he means, if you wipe and install a new ROM, the first time you go into the market, it will remember the apps you DID have installed.
Where is that stored?
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Exactly. This is what is elusive. Maybe I'm completely wrong and they are stored on SkyNet I mean Google.

I am pretty sure they are attached to your google account. So they are stored on skynet, in some dark dungeon of servers they have 1000 feet under ground

Actually, I think this is a two part deal. The apps you have purchased are associated with your google account. Free apps and trials have a local market link associated with them. This link can become corrupted and titanium backup has the capability to restore those links. Running a logcat while executing the restore market links process may point you in the right direction.
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Frank...

They are definitely associated with your google account. My market kept telling me I had a **** load if apps on my phone...no mater how many times I wiped, they still showed as installed on my phone. I created a new google account and bam..fixed the issue when I signed in with the new account. Its the weirdest thing.

How do you get the downloads tab back? Mine somehow changed to a Sprint tab
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tauzins said:
How do you get the downloads tab back? Mine somehow changed to a Sprint tab
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indeed. this seems not only a evo specific "issue". a friend has a hero and was complaining how to uninstall apps since there is a sprint tab in her market. i told her to press menu and then to downloads since she isnt a geek.
i first noticed this tonight.. weird.

tauzins said:
How do you get the downloads tab back? Mine somehow changed to a Sprint tab
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This is already being discussed in the GENERAL section.

Google Backup? Wow...

So I enabled this on CM6 not too long ago, I recently wiped and updated to the latest version of it, and low and behold all my applications started getting installed from the Market on their own... How does this work, and is my data going to be there as well?

I do not believe it restores data
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It only restore the Market-downloadable applications. Your data (unless on an SD card) will not be restored.

Yea, no data was restored... kinda crappy... oh well, better than nothing.

fldash said:
Yea, no data was restored... kinda crappy... oh well, better than nothing.
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TI Backup is much better and much more versatile. Worth the money.

You just sparked my interest. What are you talking about? I've googled it but haven't found anything yet. Searched in market too.

herbthehammer said:
You just sparked my interest. What are you talking about? I've googled it but haven't found anything yet. Searched in market too.
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Titanium Backup:
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
HOWEVER, must have root.
MUST.
Your adventure may just be beginning.

What Google Backup are you talking about?

Oh. If that's what you're talking about then I'll pass.

Google backup restores wifi profiles too.
But I love titanium and did purchase the full version.
Swyped on my EVO

I use Titanium Backup because it backs up my settings, apps, data, preferences, WiFi networks, Bluetooth pairings, Cyanogenmod Settings, etc.
Really, all I do after a wipe is to skip to the home screen, open market, add my Google Account, download Titanium Backup, and go to Menu>Batch>Restore everything

It's a Google backup feature...enabled in cm roms only...it's actually quite nice if you are flashing roms everyday
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Is there anyway to get rid of the backup feature, it's pretty pointless without data and I'd rather restore my apps with Titanium...
I just wiped and reflashed and when it asked if I wanted to use Google backup, I unchecked the box, but it started downloading everything anyway...
Nevermind, I found it...

So as far as I understand it, this is part of the ASOP. So way did htc/sprint take it out?
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Any body able to get an apk, to enable this on non cm roms?

herbthehammer said:
Oh. If that's what you're talking about then I'll pass.
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Titanium is awesome and worth every penny for the paid version if you switch roms frequently. If you don't mind a little extra button mashing the free version works well.
It saves data and the version of the app your backing up. Which is really useful if you don't want the updated version of any particular app.

Will it have Backup Assistant?

I have never owned a Nexus phone so please excuse me if this is a dumb question. I currently have a rooted Thunderbolt running CM7.1. My understanding is that Nexus phones don't have any of the bloat apps preinstalled. I don't need/want Verizon's Backup Assistant as I use Google for my contacts. Does anyone know if this phone will have Backup Assistant pre installed? If so, will we be able to remove it without rooting the phone? I would like to get this phone and not have to root it.

That's a good question. They didn't install backup assistant on the iPhone 4 or 4S and contacts are transfered via an app you have to download from the app store so they may do something simular. However they did manage to get their mobile hotspot app pre-installed on the iPhones so we'll have to wait and see.
But with 4.0 even if they put it on the phone it doesn't really matter:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...G0bOQdSFFGZJ_MlZw&sig2=8-YNLP77mWCVakYh7N4t8Q

in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox

AllGamer said:
in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox
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What he was referring to was a Verizon app that is solely used to transfer contacts from one CDMA phone to another since they cannot be saved to a SIM like GSM phones. It's pre-installed on nearly every VZW phone, however to anyone in the know, it's kind of useless if you're going from Android to Android since all Google contacts sync to whatever phone shortly after you sign in to your account during the setup phase.

Your gmail backs up your contacts, backup assistant is not needed.

Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.

black05x5 said:
Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.
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Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?

qreffie said:
Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?
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and that same reason is why allot of carriers wont put ICS on thair phones!

Qreffie I did read the link you posted. Thanks so much, it was very helpful. I did not know ICS allowed us to remove apps until reading your link. I was agreeing with b15love when I reiterated that I simply don't need backup assistant. Thanks again for your replies. I'm excited for my first Nexus phone.

Google should create icloud-like app backup system

Seriously, this is the only thing that makes me root. I used to root for a whole bunch of other stuff, but I've been getting so busy as of late, where flashing just has not been feasible for my time.
On the iPhone, you are able to go into the iCloud settings menu, and tick on or off each and every app+appdata that you want to backup. This puts the data in the cloud, but that part I don't really care about, I'm fine putting the backup data on my 32gb worth of storage. The drive support would be an excellent bonus.
Alas, I don't think it'll happen for a long while... and therefore god bless Titanium Track & his amazing backup app. Although sometimes problematic, it is a handy app.

Google I/O is in a few weeks. Maybe they'll announce something similar.
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The thing is, Google already does this, the issue being hardly any apps take advantage of it, and there's no transparency about which apps do and don't do it.
Since they already do it, I'd hope they just clarify and setup a standard for it.

Yeah, like was said earlier, Google provides a way for apps to include data as a part of the backup that is used when restore. I'm not sure why app developers don't take advantage of it however.

bozzykid said:
Yeah, like was said earlier, Google provides a way for apps to include data as a part of the backup that is used when restore. I'm not sure why app developers don't take advantage of it however.
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Well i tried it and Titanium back has never backed up my entire backup to box, drive, dropbox...It always fails like 10/15 min after starting to upload... "shrug"

Big disadvantage of not having a function similar to icloud
Hi
I love the icloud feature on iOS. If you get a new iphone or ipad, you spend 2 minutes getting everything transfered from old phone/tablet to the new one. Making it very easy to upgrade to newer models.
Why doesn't Android/Samsung give the same functionality? Now I am afraid, if I loose my Galaxy S3, I loose all the settings/apps and stuff. I know there are some rather complicated ways to root and back up, but I want an easy method, where the phone makes a cloud back up, everytime it is connected to wifi, and plugged in, just like iCloud.
In Galaxy S3, there is a feature called device backup with samsung account (which cupposibly should do the same thing), but it keeps coming with some connectivity error.
Could/would anyone help me with this?
Thanks..
Keeping it real.

keepitrealdude said:
Hi
I love the icloud feature on iOS. If you get a new iphone or ipad, you spend 2 minutes getting everything transfered from old phone/tablet to the new one. Making it very easy to upgrade to newer models.
Why doesn't Android/Samsung give the same functionality? Now I am afraid, if I loose my Galaxy S3, I loose all the settings/apps and stuff. I know there are some rather complicated ways to root and back up, but I want an easy method, where the phone makes a cloud back up, everytime it is connected to wifi, and plugged in, just like iCloud.
In Galaxy S3, there is a feature called device backup with samsung account (which cupposibly should do the same thing), but it keeps coming with some connectivity error.
Could/would anyone help me with this?
Thanks..
Keeping it real.
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I clicked "backup camera to dropbox when on wifi" so every picture i take is backed up. and google already saves my contacts and wifi passwords. Not sure what else you need saved, apps?
Also android cant do that because all the phones are different, with different incompatibilities with software. Apple phones are easy because apple makes the phones and the software. Where as android, google makes the OS while the manufacturers make the phones. This is why some get features like that but only for their phones. Android is fragmented.

Android also downloads and installs the apps you had installed before if you choose " backup with Google and restore". I think That's what it says.. All you have to do is sign in with your gmail account. Same with contacts.
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niamul said:
Android also downloads and installs the apps you had installed before if you choose " backup with Google and restore". I think That's what it says.. All you have to do is sign in with your gmail account. Same with contacts.
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But app data doesn't get synced up. That's bad.

impu153 said:
But app data doesn't get synced up. That's bad.
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My wife's iPhone app data does not seem to be backed up.
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As has been mentioned before, this already exists. Google has had it for a while now. The problem is that app developers have to implement it. If there is an app you want to take advantage of that, the only solution would be to harass the app developer until they add it.

This already exist. The reason why no one really knows about it is because Google doesn't brag about it.
They have more stuff then apple and it's better then apple's system.
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They have more stuff then apple and it's better then apple's system.
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Darunion said:
I clicked "backup camera to dropbox when on wifi" so every picture i take is backed up. and google already saves my contacts and wifi passwords. Not sure what else you need saved, apps?
Also android cant do that because all the phones are different, with different incompatibilities with software. Apple phones are easy because apple makes the phones and the software. Where as android, google makes the OS while the manufacturers make the phones. This is why some get features like that but only for their phones. Android is fragmented.
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Hi. Thanks. Yes I agree woth you on that, But What I want is a feature like icloud. where I all the apps, and other data are preinstalled after a factory reset and reinstall. Samsung does have a feature called Device backup. Don't know if it does the same thing..

keepitrealdude said:
Hi. Thanks. Yes I agree woth you on that, But What I want is a feature like icloud. where I all the apps, and other data are preinstalled after a factory reset and reinstall. Samsung does have a feature called Device backup. Don't know if it does the same thing..
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at least some third part applications can do that ...

Multiple app download from google play.

After factory resetting my GS3, the phone does not automatically downloads all my apps from google play but I have to go in and click one by ONE......
I have hundreds of Apps and it will take very long. How come the phone does not do it anymore. It use to do it every time i reset.
what am I missing?
Thanks,

SDJB said:
After factory resetting my GS3, the phone does not automatically downloads all my apps from google play but I have to go in and click one by ONE......
I have hundreds of Apps and it will take very long. How come the phone does not do it anymore. It use to do it every time i reset.
what am I missing?
Thanks,
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Did you have the the Google backup enabled when you first setup your device?
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If you used a backup utility, such as Titanium Backup, it would save you a lot of headache, bandwidth, and time.
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Secret menu
Look under Goofy Play settings. There is a secret option to auto-update all apps. People forgot about that, but not me. Here. Very simple.

bravomail said:
Look under Goofy Play settings. There is a secret option to auto-update all apps. People forgot about that, but not me. Here. Very simple.
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If this is true sir you are a hero! I've been going through phones and OS on those phones a lot lately and installing one by one is really pissing me off. Google backup is a joke. One time in about 50 has google re-installed my apps after a reset.

jeffdaman said:
If this is true sir you are a hero! I've been going through phones and OS on those phones a lot lately and installing one by one is really pissing me off. Google backup is a joke. One time in about 50 has google re-installed my apps after a reset.
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That's why I only rely on multiple local backups. Cloud backups aren't reliable enough yet.

bravomail said:
Look under Goofy Play settings. There is a secret option to auto-update all apps. People forgot about that, but not me. Here. Very simple.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only UPDATES installed apps without user intervention, doesn't actually install an app after a restore correct.. if you've restored how does it know which apps to install?

d3athsd00r said:
That's why I only rely on multiple local backups. Cloud backups aren't reliable enough yet.
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I've never seen a local backup that will do anything more than install a specific version of an app. I want the market app this is up to date and for my current OS. Also I want them to keep receiving updates. If I backed up my apps on 2.3.3 GB Inspire 4G they wouldn't do me much good on ICS GSIII. For that matter some of my ICS apps may trip up JB. I wish I could go on google play, put checkmarks next to the apps I want and have play load them. I hate going through 3 or four screens to install each app. It's as annoying as User Access Control on Win Vista/7.

Sorry but I'm a noon but is there a tutorial on how to use titanium backup to restore multiple apps?
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I'd like to know this too. I used to own the sgs2 and it would piss me off to have to pick and choose my old apps again. But sometimes Google play would do it automatically for me.
Now when using the SGS3 with cm10, it's been pretty good at automatically re downloading my apps. I just need to make sure it stays that way, but I don't know how.
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RiPpeR_dUdE said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only UPDATES installed apps without user intervention, doesn't actually install an app after a restore correct.. if you've restored how does it know which apps to install?
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Google Sync picks up most apps for you. Off course you need to have Google Sync enabled.
As far as data and other complete backup of apps and new versions of the apps you should purchase TiBu. Titanium Backup a must have for Android users.

If the ROM you flash has the option to "restore from Google" while entering your Google login during initial setup of the ROM, then all your apps will be restored.
If you don't get that option, then they won't be restored.
There is no secret setting in Google Play to get the apps to auto-install after the fact.

blasterrr said:
Google Sync picks up most apps for you. Off course you need to have Google Sync enabled.
As far as data and other complete backup of apps and new versions of the apps you should purchase TiBu. Titanium Backup a must have for Android users.
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I just use TiBu, never had a problem and can select which Apps/Data I want to restore.

SDJB said:
After factory resetting my GS3, the phone does not automatically downloads all my apps from google play but I have to go in and click one by ONE......
I have hundreds of Apps and it will take very long. How come the phone does not do it anymore. It use to do it every time i reset.
what am I missing?
Thanks,
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Seriously...hundreds of apps? How many GB is that?