Not sure who this goes to, so I'll drop it here...
We really need an iPad section. There is a lot of potential, and people out there interested in Android and Linux and even ChromeOS development for iPad. This could really take off...
Discuss.
agentfazexx said:
Not sure who this goes to, so I'll drop it here...
We really need an iPad section. There is a lot of potential, and people out there interested in Android and Linux and even ChromeOS development for iPad. This could really take off...
Discuss.
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Ummmm.....
www.iphone-developers.com
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Ummmm.....
www.iphone-developers.com
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I meant here, I would really help XDA. It could really take off. The market is there, just Google openiboot, it's by hexxeh. It runs on iPad but people need to start developing on it. And plus, there's no big "iPad Development" section. There's an iPad subforum of Hardware, but most of the threads are closed, not much activity on that forum.
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I meant here, I would rather help XDA. It could really take off. The market is there, just Google openiboot, it's by hexxeh. It runs on iPad but people need to start developing on it. And plus, there's no big "iPad Development" section. There's an iPad subforum of Hardware, but most of the threads are closed, not much activity on that forum.
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The reason for not having apple hardware on xda was partly due to trolling etc.
I think the best place would be iPD, given you can load your account in there too.
The issue is very few people get into hacking the iDevices, giving an appearance of not much going on...
If you think there is a lot of demand, pm NotATreoFan and see what he says, as he could add a section if demand exists
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The reason for not having apple hardware on xda was partly due to trolling etc.
I think the best place would be iPD, given you can load your account in there too.
The issue is very few people get into hacking the iDevices, giving an appearance of not much going on...
If you think there is a lot of demand, pm NotATreoFan and see what he says, as he could add a section if demand exists
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Load my XDA account or Apple account? Confused there...
Here's four links from a VERY quick Google search, aggregate but still, it's something.
http://www.redmondpie.com/android-on-iphone-4-ipad-via-openiboot-idroid/
http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/11/12/openiboot-could-soon-bring-android-to-ipad-and-iphone-4/
http://androidcommunity.com/android...horizon-with-openiboot-update-video-20101112/
http://www.padgadget.com/2010/11/12/android-on-ipad-and-iphone-getting-closer/
I'll loop in NotATreoFan and we'll see what he says.
The decision to move all iOS-related hardware/software to iPhone Developers was made by the owners of XDA. If the demand is there, I can create a new forum over at iPD for this cause, and you can create a closed thread here linking directly to it.
As for the username suggestion by Pulser, he is referring to the fact that all XDA usernames are reserved over at iPD, so you can transfer your account and keep the same ID/pass.
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The decision to move all iOS-related hardware/software to iPhone Developers was made by the owners of XDA. If the demand is there, I can create a new forum over at iPD for this cause, and you can create a closed thread here linking directly to it.
As for the username suggestion by Pulser, he is referring to the fact that all XDA usernames are reserved over at iPD, so you can transfer your account and keep the same ID/pass.
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So how could I show you the "demand" you mention?
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So how could I show you the "demand" you mention?
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If you are aware of a group of people who would like to see this, create a new thread over at iPD expressing the desire. Once enough people chime in, I can create the section you need.
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If you are aware of a group of people who would like to see this, create a new thread over at iPD expressing the desire. Once enough people chime in, I can create the section you need.
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Will do. Tried to login over at iPD with my cred's here, didn't work. Do I need to create the account or something?
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Will do. Tried to login over at iPD with my cred's here, didn't work. Do I need to create the account or something?
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You have to "register." When you click the register link, there will be an option to transfer your XDA account. Enter your user/pass in those fields, and everything will be moved over.
Thread started at iPD: http://forum.iphone-developers.com/ipad/1091-ipad-development-forum-xda.html
Let's keep this going...
Each thing on it´s own place, consider iphone-developers as another section of XDA
orb3000 said:
Each thing on it´s own place, consider iphone-developers as another section of XDA
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...with no iPad Development section.
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...with no iPad Development section.
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Patience, my child.
Demanding, you must not be.
Anger the Mods, you will.
Request will be granted I am betting.
/yoda
JimmyMcGee said:
Patience, my child.
Demanding, you must not be.
Anger the Mods, you will.
Request will be granted I am betting.
/yoda
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No one's demanding "master." lol
Does the symbolism of the word "development" in the forum really make a difference? Surely it is the content quality that matters more than the heading?
The iPad section looks fine to me. Make a thread, post what you have, get others involved.
When there is too much activity, and a separate section is needed, per
IMHO, does make a difference. Keeps it organized for one...for two, easier to find stuff.
I have to agree with Pulser here. If there is not a lot of activity in a "General" forum, why make a whole new development section for one or two threads. At this time, I'd say asking for a Development specific section is a little "demanding."
All in all, it seems you are more focused on the "titles" and "status" instead of the actual developing. I hope that is not the case, because that is outside XDA/iPD's "spirit" or "soul."
Start posting development stuff in General and if/when it gets popular and messy, we can make a new development section and move things around.
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I have to agree with Pulser here. If there is not a lot of activity in a "General" forum, why make a whole new development section for one or two threads. At this time, I'd say asking for a Development specific section is a little "demanding."
All in all, it seems you are more focused on the "titles" and "status" instead of the actual developing. I hope that is not the case, because that is outside XDA/iPD's "spirit" or "soul."
Start posting development stuff in General and if/when it gets popular and messy, we can make a new development section and move things around.
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Okie Dokie.
Related
request to mods/admins
please,please,please
I GET SICK WHEN I SEE THE GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD
the general discussion is full of LG,Samsung,Sony-Ericsson threads and posts about roms,apps,whole bunch of stuff which we don't support because they aren't htc
some guys/girls asked for separated threads for those listed above,but they didn't get them because they aren't htc products
and now they are clearly allowed to post about those devices in general discussion
(because you don't stop them)
so when we look it in technical way...it is spamming,as talking about cars,pc's, estates is
in general or any other thread (except for off topic thread)
PLEASE STOP THIS by removing those threads or by giving them a section,either ways let's keep the forum clean and cool....and easy to use and navigate
the third option is to give us shovels to dig our way out of omnias,i780-s,x-perias and whole bunch of crap
please think about this and let's do something
thanks
faruk
Off-Topic is the Apropos Place for this.
Ultimately though, General is a good place for non-HTC products. Most people stay within their own section.
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Off-Topic is the Apropos Place for this.
Ultimately though, General is a good place for non-HTC products. Most people stay within their own section.
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well we aren't windows mobile developers,at least it's not our name...we aren't support for wm devices,but for htc,as it's said in the welcome screen nad short "site about"
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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and samsung is not htc so the place for them is off topic
farukb said:
well we aren't windows mobile developers,at least it's not our name...
and samsung is not htc
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Oh I know. If you look back at all the non-Htc Subforum request threads you will see me telling people no. But They still seem to think General is ok. I don't know what Admin's stand on this is.
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Oh I know. If you look back at all the non-Htc Subforum request threads you will see me telling people no. But They still seem to think General is ok. I don't know what Admin's stand on this is.
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that is my point,i also say no, but they keep posting...but one moment i saw general full of non-htc crap and i got really pissed off
hateful child....
just kidding.
i think it's ignorant and somewhat elitist to completely deny non-HTC devices service here. We do have a forum for the XDA atom, which was NOT made by HTC. It was, however, carried by XDA. The world isn't static, and it's ignorant to say that the internet isn't either. We've opened forums for even the least used HTC devices, so we should definitely consider giving non-htc devices their own forums, especially given the number of people who have them.
fzzyrn said:
hateful child....
just kidding.
i think it's ignorant and somewhat elitist to completely deny non-HTC devices service here. We do have a forum for the XDA atom, which was NOT made by HTC. It was, however, carried by XDA. The world isn't static, and it's ignorant to say that the internet isn't either. We've opened forums for even the least used HTC devices, so we should definitely consider giving non-htc devices their own forums, especially given the number of people who have them.
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personally,i'd give them their sections,and i wouldn't mind to have omnia,but the general thread thing bugs me...if you know what i mean
well, you know....
to quote some inexplicably famous guy "the best place to find order is in disorder"
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well, you know....
to quote some inexplicably famous guy "the best place to find order is in disorder"
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????self-quoter
caught me!
i guess this means that i'm inexplicably famous.
fzzyrn said:
caught me!
i guess this means that i'm inexplicably famous.
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...no...
i only saw your signature...doh!
haha i keep trying to get one of the mods to say it so people don't present that reaction to me.
hint hint wink wink
anyone...please....the situation is getting bad really bad
admin opinion:
I have no issues whatsoever with the thread but I agree that off-topic might be a better place. Though this forum is for HTC made devices it doesn't stop us of discussing any other trivial matter as long as it's in the right section (whether that be the best brand of coffee, the speed of our dsl line, the color of my avatar or a different device)
We will not at any moment open forums for non htc made devices on this forum, it would open the floodgates for way too many devices and make this forum too general and unmanageble.
Best regards,
Flar
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admin opinion:
I have no issues whatsoever with the thread but I agree that off-topic might be a better place. Though this forum is for HTC made devices it doesn't stop us of discussing any other trivial matter as long as it's in the right section (whether that be the best brand of coffee, the speed of our dsl line, the color of my avatar or a different device)
We will not at any moment open forums for non htc made devices on this forum, it would open the floodgates for way too many devices and make this forum too general and unmanageble.
Best regards,
Flar
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i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
quote from my first post
and now they are clearly allowed to post about those devices in general discussion
(because you don't stop them)
so when we look it in technical way...it is spamming,as talking about cars,pc's, estates is
in general or any other thread (except for off topic thread)
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farukb said:
i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
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Unfortunately the life of a mod can be overwhelming at times, we can't be everywhere all the time. If you have a problem with a thread and want to bring it to our attention, you could send a PM.
We will evaluate the options and take the action we feel is best.
farukb said:
i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
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As jimmy says mods do have their own lives and can't be everywhere all the time, it helps if you help point out stuff like this.
Consider the fact that some of our mods spend up to 14 hours per day here, most of that time spent moderating...
Also consider this is vacation season and for a lot of the mods (and users) this time of day is the time you start thinking about going to bed, with mods being on vacation all of us have a hard time coping with all the mod work as it is, a bit of patience will get you a long way.
Best regards,
Flar
Flar said:
As jimmy says mods do have their own lives and can't be everywhere all the time, it helps if you help point out stuff like this.
Consider the fact that some of our mods spend up to 14 hours per day here, most of that time spent moderating...
Also consider this is vacation season and for a lot of the mods (and users) this time of day is the time you start thinking about going to bed, with mods being on vacation all of us have a hard time coping with all the mod work as it is, a bit of patience will get you a long way.
Best regards,
Flar
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yes i know that and i fully appreciate it,they are people too
but there is a dozen of mods,not only one
i'm not rushing anyone,just asked everyone to consider it
this thread is almost a month old (7-25-08) so it won't make a difference now or next week or whenever
thanks again for your patience and dealing with some sometimes pissed off guys
i'll help,make your job easier
i'm starting to provide links of all non-htc threads in a new "report non-htc" thread
so someone could just delete them,without searching and reading the whole forum
is it ok with you?
thanks
By delete, you mean move to Off Topic?
Also, if this is the desired plan, should the General forum have a annoucment, and maybe change the description, informing users of this?
Oh and BTW, I have PM'd Meniesys about making a Roll up Sticky for all his guides, he said he is looking into it
Ta
Dave
**Note - this is the Official SDK release...NOT preview emulator**
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/02/final-android-30-platform-and-updated.html
Let's get things rollin for our Tabs!!
How many more threads on this?!
And put it in General!
Only thread in Galaxy Tab forum I've seen (since it was JUST released a short time ago)...and SDK is a Development tool. Apologies if Mods feel otherwise, however, it IS pertinent to 3.0 port attempts at this early stage.
Glad to see at least one troll lurking about.
?? How am I trolling?! There are at least 2 thread asking devs to port. Consider the plea heard. You shouldn't really post here unless you're starting the port. If you have, great! Let us know what you tried, and how it went. If not, this thread is redundant.
And if you're not asking for a port for the Tab (based on the emulator image that's in the SDK) then what are you asking for?
old news, once its out, its old news...working on a comb for my tab, working nicely just the way i wanted to...what sux is wifi aint working, had to use tether
I know there is a Thanks Button, is there a Booo Button? XP
This isn't a request thread...it's a link to the SDK, and to the fact that Google has just NOW released the OFFICIAL SDK for developers. It has finalized API's, and is ready for public consumption.
I did not post it with pleas of "please please make this work on our devices!?!?!"
If devs feel the contribution belongs in another forum, so be it...I for one prefer to contribute what I possibly can.
(Please note that there is a huge difference between afore mentioned "Preview SDK" and this release of offical finalized SDK...it's what's going out on devices live....If I'm mistaken, having only briefy compared the files, apologies)
In which case, we already know! If we are active on XDA then the chances are we read these blogs, we keep up with the world. Pointless threads in the development section don't help. This should be in general. It's general conversation.
Let's get things rollin for our Tabs!!
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And that looks to me like a request to get it ported. Maybe it's just me.
You thread is in the wrong place, there is an Android General section where this should be, not device specific.
/troll I guess
LMAO...wow. Just forget it.
Heaven forbid the forums get locked down to such trivial BS (ie. omg unless you are gonna release it yourself shut up and be quiet).
Information is what keeps our community at the forefront. Either be the type of member that does any little thing to give our devices the edge (post a link to new source, post dump files, etc), or yell at everyone who puts in an effort.
More excited about the potential for a post in wrong forum than the potential for what we've been looking for to get 3.0 up and running.
I'm gonna get my hands dirty!
Bandage said:
More excited about the potential for a post in wrong forum than the potential for what we've been looking for to get 3.0 up and running.
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So you are asking for a port then?
Bandage said:
I'm gonna get my hands dirty!
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Good, I look forward to your findings.
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So you are asking for a port then?
Good, I look forward to your findings.
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This is interesting. Now, desire HD and nexus one also have Honey Comb ported. I really would love to see a port for galaxy tab. Although it may not be usable than AOSP but it's somewhat exciting. According to some news on the DESIRE HD XDA forum, Some functionality of the SDK will work with their current kernel. e.q. maybe you can boot the honey comb but others are broken. I am not sure if this is the same as for Galaxy tab but once we get it to display, the rests might be easier.
I don't effin care if the thread gets moved...
I would like to challenge the Mods to put more effort in to filtering out the jerks that troll the forums. Being an individual who prefers to attack any efforts made should be insta-ban.
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I don't effin care if the thread gets moved...
I would like to challenge the Mods to put more effort in to filtering out the jerks that troll the forums. Being an individual who prefers to attack any efforts made should be insta-ban.
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So what, I have committed 1500+ trolling offenses then?
I'm not attacking anyway. If you port Honeycomb I will be genuinely grateful, I want to see it as much as everyone else. What I'm trying to do is keep the forums tidy. By all means post links to news and the like, just do it in the right section.
I appreciate your 1500+ contributions...I dislike your attitude towards an earnest effort, you aren't a forum mod, so it's not your job to "keep the forums tidy". So effin what if it's the wrong forum, let a dev move it. If I misunderstood the placement guidelines for a relevant development tool, I apologize. It seems the most obvious place for it...as it pertains to development. I didn't link to an article about the release, I linked to the release.
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So what, I have committed 1500+ trolling offenses then?
I'm not attacking anyway. If you port Honeycomb I will be genuinely grateful, I want to see it as much as everyone else. What I'm trying to do is keep the forums tidy. By all means post links to news and the like, just do it in the right section.
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Really though, I'm more sick of seeing your replies saying "shoulda posted in general" than I am of people asking about honeycomb. Maybe you should go spend your time begging for a mod in here and less time contributing to the garbage we have to look though, considering every one of your posts politely informing (lol) people where they should post always turns the thread into a busy thread instead of just letting it die and go to page 2....
I honestly don't know if you're trying to troll or help out, but it's seriously more annoying than newbs posting in the wrong area.
Do people even know what trolling means anymore?
If you're not gonna use it properly....
The tab is not the only android device I follow up on. And I rarely look in general because I'm sick of all the "should I root my tab?!?" and "omg I bricked my phone" threads. This is the first instance I have seen the sdk was released. Once I try Boushh's deodex on my sprint tab, I might be able to start making my tab look like it has honeycomb at least. So thanks OP
JCopernicus said:
Do people even know what trolling means anymore?
If you're not gonna use it properly....
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Wikipedia
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
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Wikipedia
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
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Just because you're response to an innocuous post results in the same reaction doesn't automatically transpose the intent of the original poster.
TheGrammarFreak said:
So what, I have committed 1500+ trolling offenses then?
I'm not attacking anyway. If you port Honeycomb I will be genuinely grateful, I want to see it as much as everyone else. What I'm trying to do is keep the forums tidy. By all means post links to news and the like, just do it in the right section.
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Grow up and move on!
There is something really common on xda that make it annoying to read topics and create huge topics with tons or pages, it's the members useless posts.
Usually a dev post a new hack/rom/kernel etc...
And some member post to say thanks instead of using the thanks button
Others complain about something not working even if the OP said it wouldn't work
And then you have the members that answer to the one complaining that he has to learn to read but instead of having one member saying this there is always like 5 members doing it
So I'm requesting a down vote or something similar that would hide or delete the usless posts in a thread to make it smaller and easier to read and could help lighten the xda database
Thanks!
(just kidding)
This needs to be seriously considered by the mods - will make life better for all of us.
would be nice if goes to happen
that is a great idea.
i guess we can say thanks here
Not exactly what you are looking for, but we added an easy way to obscure posts by folk on your ignore list. So, if there are one or two posters in a thread that are generating lots of useless posts in your view, click their name and choose to add them to your ignore list.
The ability to minimize or in other ways hide post with less information (e.g. post of people saying thanks, or posts with questions which has been answered) is very useful, especially for threads with high activity, such as the cyanogen thread and ICS sdk thread in i9000.
MikeChannon said:
Not exactly what you are looking for, but we added an easy way to obscure posts by folk on your ignore list. So, if there are one or two posters in a thread that are generating lots of useless posts in your view, click their name and choose to add them to your ignore list.
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Are you thinking about implementing the idea or not yet ?
exadeci said:
So I'm requesting a down vote or something similar that would hide or delete the usless posts in a thread to make it smaller and easier to read and could help lighten the xda database
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That's a really nice idea! The down voted posts does not have to be deleted but the users can choose if they would see them.
UP
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exadeci said:
Are you thinking about implementing the idea or not yet ?
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This is already done. Click someone's username and see it
pulser_g2 said:
This is already done. Click someone's username and see it
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Ignoring an user for some posts will make us miss all the good ones he might post and having to ignore half of the posters on a topic doesn't seems to be the best
While having the possibility to vote to hide/delete would be better
Could we have a straight answer ?!
0 no, maybe it will happen...
Mods do something
This needs to happen. It would make XDA a way better place. Everyone needs to put a link to this thread in their sig like I did....we need more attention in this thread so that this idea gets pushed to the top of the list.
G1ForFun said:
This needs to happen. It would make XDA a way better place. Everyone needs to put a link to this thread in their sig like I did....we need more attention in this thread so that this idea gets pushed to the top of the list.
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I'm 50/50 about the idea. I can see the benefit, but I can also see it being abused. Either way, your enthusiasm doesn't change the fact that no-one has posted here for over 3 months. I'm guessing that there's not too much interest in it.
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This needs to happen. It would make XDA a way better place. Everyone needs to put a link to this thread in their sig like I did....we need more attention in this thread so that this idea gets pushed to the top of the list.
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The admins are aware of the request.
Whether 1 or 1000000 people request it makes no difference. If it's doable and beneficial then it may well happen....
Sit tight....
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I'm 50/50 about the idea. I can see the benefit, but I can also see it being abused. Either way, your enthusiasm doesn't change the fact that no-one has posted here for over 3 months. I'm guessing that there's not too much interest in it.
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Jee, I sure would give it more than a few hours before making a comment like that. I am just one person trying to bring recognition to an awesome feature request that seems to have been buried and lost.
If you have something to add besides your negativity, feel free.
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The admins are aware of the request.
Whether 1 or 1000000 people request it makes no difference. If it's doable and beneficial then it may well happen....
Sit tight....
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I appreciate the response. I figured there was no harm in making this feature request more visible to the community, but you have pointed out that this does not matter. Apologies. I'll keep my fingers crossed for this feature to be implemented in the future.
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Jee, I sure would give it more than a few hours before making a comment like that. I am just one person trying to bring recognition to an awesome feature request that seems to have been buried and lost.
If you have something to add besides your negativity, feel free.
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Did you read my post in an angry voice or something? I meant no disrespect - I was just giving my opinion and then saying it didn't look like a popular idea.
maybe add option to mark topic as bloated
and the user or the modder will hide/vote those bloated posts
Hi all,
In an effort to reduce the clutter of the General subforum we will be closing any "What's your favorite xxxxxx?" threads in General and ask that you please continue discussions here. Thank you for helping keep this section more organized and apologize for any inconvenience.
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?
So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?... Price? your satisfaction level, and any other issues... I'm thinking of switching to the new AT&T $60 plan but am worried about the data speeds.
Thanatos-LRSD said:
So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?... Price? your satisfaction level, and any other issues... I'm thinking of switching to the new AT&T $60 plan but am worried about the data speeds.
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In the US I used the T-Mobile/Wal-Mart plan for $30/month
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So what was your favorite "What's your favorite _____ ?" thread ? :cyclops:
Favorite launcher - TSF Shell (the animations, widgets, and overall look is awesome)
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So what was your favorite "What's your favorite _____ ?" thread ? :cyclops:
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*sigh... *
I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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*sigh... *
I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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I agree. Locking all other threads and just making a new one doesn't reduce clutter, it just makes it worse. How about if the moderator(s) just reopen the other threads because they were fluid and in great discussion. Then delete this thread.
This thread is pointless IMHO. It's dead and ended up jumbled.
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Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
Rokonacdc said:
*sigh... *
I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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SuperAfnan said:
I agree. Locking all other threads and just making a new one doesn't reduce clutter, it just makes it worse. How about if the moderator(s) just reopen the other threads because they were fluid and in great discussion. Then delete this thread.
This thread is pointless IMHO. It's dead and ended up jumbled.
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Judge Joseph Dredd said:
Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
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Damn that's a lot of "thanks"! Wow.
Judge Joseph Dredd said:
Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
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Is it? As far as I see, there isn't a specific d2att Off Topic thread, and as is said quite often, not all phones are created equal even of the same model. So why should we use a "broad spectrum" Off Topic thread for things that we want to know will work well on our specific device?
Please forgive if I'm out of line, but that is my opinion and I think a lot of people will agree with me.
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Is it? As far as I see, there isn't a specific d2att Off Topic thread, and as is said quite often, not all phones are created equal even of the same model. So why should we use a "broad spectrum" Off Topic thread for things that we want to know will work well on our specific device?
Please forgive if I'm out of line, but that is my opinion and I think a lot of people will agree with me.
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There shouldn't be any off topic for any devices. As I see it, XDA is a development site, not a social network or a place to chat or vent. There is already an off topic section, found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261 which I think is more than enough for this site. The off topics only further clutter threads and important information and off topics, IMHO, are pointless.
That's just me though. If it were up to me I'd close them all and just stick to development and Q&As... Maybe that way members would at least read OPs and rules Lol....
But that's just me
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Honestly, the only threads in this section should concern the AT&T SAMSUNG GALAXY S3. There are general Android sections on XDA.
hey
i want to learn how to make android kernel like the rom developers
what i need to learn first? (i want to dev to i9305 first)
what the programing langue that used for android kernels?
ussl said:
hey
i want to learn how to make android kernel like the rom developers
what i need to learn first? (i want to dev to i9305 first)
what the programing langue that used for android kernels?
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To compile a kernel : http://xda-university.com/as-a-developer/getting-started-building-a-kernel-from-source
Android kernels (which are actually linux kernels) are written in C.
Hacking kernels is not the easiest thing to do for beginner programmers. You need to know a bit about the underlying hardware and debugging is difficult, it's also more risky than app development so know you recovery procedures. Now, disregard what I just said and do it, it's very rewarding.
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hey
i want to learn how to make android kernel like the rom developers
what i need to learn first? (i want to dev to i9305 first)
what the programing langue that used for android kernels?
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What part of "Developers Only" in the forum title did you not understand? This is not a Q&A thread for n00bs. For that you need to post in the Q&A section.
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What part of "Developers Only" in the forum title did you not understand? This is not a Q&A thread for n00bs. For that you need to post in the Q&A section.
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Well while you might be partly right about the q&a he cant get the information need from there either. So let him try to join the developer sections if he can manage to do it. No one is a noob forever unless we are pains in the butt and dont help/let them grow and learn.
While I dont know everything about developing I can help you some fell free to PM me or hit me up via hangouts ([email protected]) include your issues/desires when you hit me up since I help whoever I can and cant always keep track of everyone who contacts me. Also dont let people keep you from trying because then we would never have new development or developers. No disrespect @TheATHEiST but damn cut a noob some slack and help out or be quite.
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What part of "Developers Only" in the forum title did you not understand? This is not a Q&A thread for n00bs. For that you need to post in the Q&A section.
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+1
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Well while you might be partly right about the q&a he cant get the information need from there either. So let him try to join the developer sections if he can manage to do it. No one is a noob forever unless we are pains in the butt and dont help/let them grow and learn.
While I dont know everything about developing I can help you some fell free to PM me or hit me up via hangouts ([email protected]) include your issues/desires when you hit me up since I help whoever I can and cant always keep track of everyone who contacts me. Also dont let people keep you from trying because then we would never have new development or developers. No disrespect @TheATHEiST but damn cut a noob some slack and help out or be quite.
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You basically just proved my point. You're not a developer but are willing to help him so it proves that he could have simply posted in the correct section which is the Q&A.
He and other n00bs have absolutely no place in a "Developers Only" thread. It quite clearly says so.
It's not about "cutting them some slack" It's about asking them to post in correct sections and NO I will not be "quite" or quiet.
XDA is a mess and hard to sift out info already without you adding to it by basically telling n00bs it's ok to post wherever they want to.
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You basically just proved my point. You're not a developer but are willing to help him so it proves that he could have simply posted in the correct section which is the Q&A.
He and other n00bs have absolutely no place in a "Developers Only" thread. It quite clearly says so.
It's not about "cutting them some slack" It's about asking them to post in correct sections and NO I will not be "quite" or quiet.
XDA is a mess and hard to sift out info already without you adding to it by basically telling n00bs it's ok to post wherever they want to.
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Where is your creds as a dev? Do you have any right to even post here either? You been a member since 08 and given back what? Are you a mod? So take care and talk to you latter funny guy.
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jlmancuso said:
Well while you might be partly right about the q&a he cant get the information need from there either. So let him try to join the developer sections if he can manage to do it. No one is a noob forever unless we are pains in the butt and dont help/let them grow and learn.
While I dont know everything about developing I can help you some fell free to PM me or hit me up via hangouts ([email protected]) include your issues/desires when you hit me up since I help whoever I can and cant always keep track of everyone who contacts me. Also dont let people keep you from trying because then we would never have new development or developers. No disrespect @TheATHEiST but damn cut a noob some slack and help out or be quite.
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Where is your creds as a dev? Do you have any right to even post here either? You been a member since 08 and given back what? Are you a mod? So take care and talk to you latter funny guy.
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At what part did I assert that I was a Dev or a mod???
I was replying to a thread, I was not creating a topic, there is a BIG difference. If a n00b doesn't read a topic title and nobody replies to let him know he is posting in wrong place how is he going to know?
So don't take care and I will not talk to you later funny guy.
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At what part did I assert that I was a Dev or a mod???
I was replying to a thread, I was not creating a topic, there is a BIG difference. If a n00b doesn't read a topic title and nobody replies to let him know he is posting in wrong place how is he going to know?
So don't take care and I will not talk to you later funny guy.
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This area is currently experimental and was set up by the XDA Administrators for development discussion. The idea in this section is for developers (not only recognized developers, but all developers) to have a place for discussion threads to "talk shop." What kind of talk? Some topics (that I'm making up as I type this) might include (and are certainly not limited to):
Overriding the power widget in the notification dropdown
Considerations of using gcc versions other than 4.4.3 for compiling the kernel
Exynos: discussion on working around the SOC wake from sleep delay
This isn't a Q&A forum. However, developers might kick off discussions with a question. The difference? This belongs in Q&A: "My phone wakes up slow, will it go faster if I take my sdcard out?" On the other hand, the following might belong in this new section: "Has anyone tried adjusting the mmc detection timeouts to see if there's an impact on the SOC wakeup delays?" The assumption here is that the person asking the latter question actually knows what a mmc detection timeout is, how they'd change it, and has started to play around with it before posting the question.
As well, this section is not for posting finished products or "advertising" of kernels, apps, etc. This section is to discuss the process, not for the end result.
The hope (at least my own hope) is that developers can discuss things here instead of resorting the various other methods of communication we've used. At the same time, newer developers and even non-developers can LEARN from the conversations and eventually participate.
Depending on the reception (and difficulty moderating, probably) this experiment will either be expanded for other device types, completely shut down as a failure, or adjusted. Obviously, if we developers don't use it, it might be considered a waste of time and dissolved.
This section will be very closely moderated by moderators who are also developers and non-development discussion will be harshly dealt with.
I REALLY hope this will encourage more devs to spend time with open communication. This is XDA-Developers. Let's do development.
Edit (Jan 8th, 2013):
Clarifying "finished products" above: The threads in this section will likely spawn off or involve distinct programs/kernels/firmwares , and once a distinct product results, a separate thread
outside of this section should be created for supporting that distinct product. A link to that thread is welcome in the source thread here, but this section shouldn't be used to contain support or release posts.
Take care
Gary
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So this is the section rules. Note statement that mod will watch closely and even states it will help promote development.
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jlmancuso said:
So this is the section rules. Note statement that mod will watch closely and even states it will help promote development.
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Yes but It's not a place for complete newbies to ask basic questions. Those can easily just be asked via the standard Q&A forum. This forum is for devs to discuss development. In my opinion a dev as far as XDA goes is somebody with some sort of level of experience in kernels or roms. Somebody who has experience in neither should post in non-dev forums until they have correct level of experience. There is also a XDA Uni section for newbies to learn this stuff.
This forum is for developers which have some sort of level of experience to ask/discuss.
Plus this question was a general question and not really n7100/05 specific so needs to be in general Android Q&A.
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Yes but It's not a place for complete newbies to ask basic questions. Those can easily just be asked via the standard Q&A forum. This forum is for devs to discuss development. In my opinion a dev as far as XDA goes is somebody with some sort of level of experience in kernels or roms. Somebody who has experience in neither should post in non-dev forums until they have correct level of experience. There is also a XDA Uni section for newbies to learn this stuff.
This forum is for developers which have some sort of level of experience to ask/discuss.
Plus this question was a general question and not really n7100/05 specific so needs to be in general Android Q&A.
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So you think this is a n7100/05 section also? This section is lined to dozens of samsung devices on xda. So leave the moderating to the mods. While I do find conversations with users like you interesting I got to go help others for now.
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jlmancuso said:
So you think this is a n7100/05 section also? This section is lined to dozens of samsung devices on xda. So leave the moderating to the mods. While I do find conversations with users like you interesting I got to go help others for now.
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Run along and play.
PS. I did leave the moderating to the mods, which is why it's been moved to correct section as per my original point Mr smartypants.
This thread has turned into EXACTLY what I didn't want when I envisioned the section...
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i want to learn how to make android kernel like the rom developers
what i need to learn first? (i want to dev to i9305 first)
what the programing langue that used for android kernels?
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As has already been quoted, the area is for developers. No, not just RD's, but all developers. However, I've yet to meet a developer that doesn't take the time to research something before they ask questions. In this case, it's pretty obvious that you either aren't a developer, or that you haven't taken any time whatsoever to research the topic first. Have you even bothered to download the kernel source? That's a pretty big giveaway as to what language is used. As well, most source packages give hints as to which compiler is needed (and usually has a strong indication which toolset is preferred.)
I'm not posting this to be nasty - I'm posting it so that you (and others) can understand why this post can cause some pretty caustic replies. I'm a developer myself (and XDA has seen fit to label me as such,) but if I post a question that indicates I've done ZERO research and ZERO searching... and then post it in a section clearly labeled as "for developers only".. I can be assured that I'll get flamed as well.
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What part of "Developers Only" in the forum title did you not understand? This is not a Q&A thread for n00bs. For that you need to post in the Q&A section.
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I didn't bother to quote the rest of your replies... but perhaps simply reporting the post and a quick note that you think it's in the wrong section might be a enough? Even if this thread survives moderation, your replies likely won't...
Take care
Gary