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Whats the Best Kernel for battery life???

I need to know the best kernel i'm currently on netarchy's 4.18 i and I have seen kingkilcks but I flash his #8 cfs but it made my phone lag alot and #7 seem to run battery down, but I can't be positive cuz I didn't run it for more than an hour...basically I wanna know wut's the best kernel for battery life? or opinions at least

Running snaps 7.5 or. 6 don't recall ATM but the battery life is crazy
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Kings #9 is pretty close to the new stock kernel ...

I'm having the best luck with Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 beta on my 002 EVO. I don't even have to use SetCPU to underclock for more battery that's how nice the kernel is.

I agree with cMeka
I am running Baked Snack 1.7 ROM with Kings BFS#9 kernel and the battery life is awesome.
P.S. Battery life got even better on Kings #9 after uninstalling SetCPU. SetCPU interferes with H/AVS and defeats the purpose.
Good Luck!

squiggie said:
I agree with cMeka
I am running Baked Snack 1.7 ROM with Kings BFS#9 kernel and the battery life is awesome.
P.S. Battery life got even better on Kings #9 after uninstalling SetCPU. SetCPU interferes with H/AVS and defeats the purpose.
Good Luck!
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okay i will but then how would I over clock the fone, or should i just not set up profiles?

Can someone explain the difference between kernels and roms? Also do you have to wipe in order to flash new kernels the same way you would a new rom?

Ddt928 said:
Can someone explain the difference between kernels and roms? Also do you have to wipe in order to flash new kernels the same way you would a new rom?
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Kernels basically control the hardware. Roms not so much hardware as software(trying to be real simple for ya). Wipe cache and davlik.
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mkeena0305 said:
Kernels basically control the hardware. Roms not so much hardware as software(trying to be real simple for ya). Wipe cache and davlik.
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thnx that makes sense

I've got a noob question...... Can you flash just a kernel and just use a stock rom?
I'm rooted and just using clockworkmod, at the moment.

SouthPhilly said:
I've got a noob question...... Can you flash just a kernel and just use a stock rom?
I'm rooted and just using clockworkmod, at the moment.
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If your rooted then yeah you can. Make sure its for sense roms first. There are sense and asop (senseless roms like cm6)
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martyzidek said:
If your rooted then yeah you can. Make sure its for sense roms first. There are sense and asop (senseless roms like cm6)
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I have the Sprint Lovers ROM from Universal Auto Root. My battery life SUCKS! I'm trying to find out if the Kings #9 is the one for me. Any thoughts?

hockeyfreak said:
I have the Sprint Lovers ROM from Universal Auto Root. My battery life SUCKS! I'm trying to find out if the Kings #9 is the one for me. Any thoughts?
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no, it isnt. none of the king kernels are. they are waaaay out of date, and it turns out, kingklick just stole most of the code from other devs. either use netarchy's newest, or ziggy's newest. thats mostly all you have for sense.

Personally, any sense rom can drain battery, but the best i have seen is Baked Battery Kernel. Awesome battery life and it is very fast.

loonert said:
Personally, any sense rom can drain battery, but the best i have seen is Baked Battery Kernel. Awesome battery life and it is very fast.
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wow talk about out of date... what rom do you use it on if you still do? just curious.

dkdude36 said:
wow talk about out of date... what rom do you use it on if you still do? just curious.
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Warm z two point two. It is getting old i suppose but its getting the job done

loonert said:
Warm z two point two. It is getting old i suppose but its getting the job done
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oh not ota 3.70 based. that's probably why it works. any kernel not 15 based usually gets terrible results on 3.70 ota so i guess you found a loophole there . i did hear very good things about that kernel so glad to know it can still be applied to good work.

I am getting good results with ziggy (calkulin rom) and suggesting to try it.

dkdude36 said:
oh not ota 3.70 based. that's probably why it works. any kernel not 15 based usually gets terrible results on 3.70 ota so i guess you found a loophole there . i did hear very good things about that kernel so glad to know it can still be applied to good work.
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Most of the time i do use Cyanogenmod instead because, everybody knows, it has a wayyyyyy better battery life. Sense needs an app freezer, like titanium backup pro, so that they dont just start up again.

dkdude36 said:
no, it isnt. none of the king kernels are. they are waaaay out of date, and it turns out, kingklick just stole most of the code from other devs. either use netarchy's newest, or ziggy's newest. thats mostly all you have for sense.
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I'm not opposed to using a different rom, I just haven't gotten in to that area yet. Where's a good place to read about "sense" and different types of roms and reasons for using particular ones? Appearance I guess is the main reason? I'm just about ready to dive of this cliff. Thanks!

Simple Question.... Re: Kernel

I know I need a Kernel that supports overclocking before I use something like CPUBoost... which one can anyone recommend that is stable and would allow this.
Sorry this is my first time posting in this forum... was using the Eris up until yesterday.
Thanks in advance.

drtchocky said:
I know I need a Kernel that supports overclocking before I use something like CPUBoost... which one can anyone recommend that is stable and would allow this.
Sorry this is my first time posting in this forum... was using the Eris up until yesterday.
Thanks in advance.
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It's all preference, depends on if you are using an AOSP rom or Sense rom. Try them out for yourself and then decide, everyone gets different results.

I'm just throwing this out there we can only overclock our phones a wee bit and it for me at least destroys battery life.
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I am looking to underclock for the most part with screen off settings.... I want to get a full day out of this phone somehow.

drtchocky said:
I am looking to underclock for the most part with screen off settings.... I want to get a full day out of this phone somehow.
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honestly you could probably get away with just installing some of the AOSP kernels floating around the Dev threads...I LOVE invisibleks line of kernels, #28 is a champion for me...but I believe the new Tiamat line of kernels is concentrating on aggressive undervolting...I would give them a try

Might try that... it's weird, coming from an Eris, there's definitely a more professional way about this forum. BUT (big but).... the ROM's seems to be overall more incomplete and I am worried about losing somee functionality. So installing a Kernel would be my best bet I guess.... being I would retain all the functionality of the stock ROM.
Hope I make sense.

Oh the other thing is... when a kernel is AOSP compatible, that means stock ROM also right?

drtchocky said:
Oh the other thing is... when a kernel is AOSP compatible, that means stock ROM also right?
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Nope. Stock is sense.
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PonsAsinorem said:
Nope. Stock is sense.
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well I installed a Kernel that was AOSP compatible and it seems to be working.... weird?

KingsXKlick Kernel

I just realized after installing #11 that there might be DINC specific kernels, can someone verify this for me?

Yea all kernels are device specific.
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Gahh Its Lee said:
Yea all kernels are device specific.
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thats what i thought.
I tried #6 but got a blue tine on my screen
#5 drains my pattery 2 percent every minute

Your on a sense rom? If so try out Chad's kernels. There in the dev section.
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Well I was using incROM and was having messaging issue so I'm going to retry it later this week
Right now I'm using Skyraider Athena 1.2 and i just put KingxKernel cfs #4 on
We'll see how it goes
How does Chad's compare with battery life? Basically I'm looking for the best battery life with without slowing my phone down, I'm sick of getting 4-8 hours out of my phone when there are people claiming to get 24-80 hours.

King made Sense and AOSP kernels specific the the DInc.
AOSP won't run on Sense, and vice-versa.
King's site tells you which are DInc specific, as well as whether they are AOSP or Sense.

I know I'm using the right kernel's
Even though his site is confusing as all hell, I just always here good things about his kernels so I'm trying #4 out for right now
did he stop updating his inc kernels?

Okay I'm using Ziggy now, way better haha

iTreezy said:
Okay I'm using Ziggy now, way better haha
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Also, can someone please explain smartass scaling?

iTreezy said:
Also, can someone please explain smartass scaling?
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This was taken from Ziggy471's site.

well apparently I didn't do my research well enough
Thanks

+1 for Chad's kernals. Been using for over a month. Battery and performance are the best I've seen.

Overclock

Can u overclock the dinc and if u can how do u do it. Thanks in advance
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There are a couple of ways to overclock the dInc, but it depends on which kernel you use and what ROM you have. For froyo, Ziggy's are probably the best. Tiamat is very nice for AOSP gingerbread. An app called SetCPU can be found for free to XDA members on here. Just Google it. There's also a couple free apps on the market. If you're still using froyo, I suggest only Ziggy's because his will allow you to use scripts to change the speed and the voltage at every step and he lays it all out very nicely, including samples that you can just edit and mix together. The benefit of the script is it doesn't use system resources like an app would.
Pushing it to 1.153 should be hard with most kernels so long as they aren't undervolted. Some devices are stable at 1.19 and some even higher. Few will exceed 1.19 though. Overclocking and tweaking kernels can be an interesting thing. Most kernels with a sysfs or ramdisk will allow some kind of scripting. Definitely check out Chad's IncrediControl.

Another good kernel for ASOP Roms (both gingerbread and Froyo) is Incredikernel. Always check and see if the Rom you want to overclockable and if it doesn't say in the OP ask the creator of the Rom, they'd be happy to help you out. Also, make sure you know the correct way to flash a kernel. It's the same way you flash a Rom, so it shouldn't give you any trouble. Happy Flashing and Overclocking!

Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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evilstewie23 said:
Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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No prob! Always happy to help!

evilstewie23 said:
Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.

BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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I thought about that, but I wasn't for sure. Thanks for the info.
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BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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ALRIGHT thanks for the info guess ill just have to wait cause I love sense 3.0.
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BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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Not sure that's true. I'm overclocking the kernel on this Tbolt and there's no source released for it either.

loonatik78 said:
Not sure that's true. I'm overclocking the kernel on this Tbolt and there's no source released for it either.
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could you post a link to the thread of your rom? please

tribbey said:
could you post a link to the thread of your rom? please
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http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=278&t=2063
It's not available on XDA anymore. I'm actually running Ziggy's kernel on it now. I'm gonna change my sig in a second.

I have found if the ROM is developed well enough, overclocking is not needed. You wont see too many benefits.

vince47 said:
I have found if the ROM is developed well enough, overclocking is not needed. You wont see too many benefits.
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On 3G, not really. On fast WiFi or LTE, yes. That's when you're looking at situations where the device isn't waiting for data. That's where you'll see the bigger benefits of overclocking.

loonatik78 said:
On 3G, not really. On fast WiFi or LTE, yes. That's when you're looking at situations where the device isn't waiting for data. That's where you'll see the bigger benefits of overclocking.
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Notion seconded
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Kind of off topic, but what benchmarks (apps) are you guys using to determine the effectiveness of your overclock?

baboonsRus said:
Kind of off topic, but what benchmarks (apps) are you guys using to determine the effectiveness of your overclock?
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Doesn't really matter. Quadrant, linpack... you're comparing same setup to same setup. An overclock on one isn't going to yield comparatively different results when compared to any other... at least it SHOULDN'T.

This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?

piperp said:
This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?
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Your milage may vary, but usually when things become unstable you can't really naviagte to anything and you get a bunch of reboots, or so it has been in my case, but again YMMV.
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piperp said:
This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?
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Every kernel dev has his own choices for kernel voltage and that's usually the single biggest variable in what stable will be. 1.113 should be stable for most devices though.

Thanks for the responses. I tried 1.113 on CM7 (7.0.3) on my Incredible and I started getting constant reboots. I put it back to 998. Maybe I'll try another setting later.

[Q] Kernel solutions?

I'm currently running Aeroevan's CM 9.0.0-RC0-Inc2-KANG, that's packaged with kernel version [email protected] My question is, are there any kernels out that will be compatible with this ROM? I tried a couple of Evan's releases but they all bonked out on me, giving me a black (backlit) screen. I'd like more control with my kernel, governors and the like.

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I'm currently running Aeroevan's CM 9.0.0-RC0-Inc2-KANG, that's packaged with kernel version [email protected] My question is, are there any kernels out that will be compatible with this ROM? I tried a couple of Evan's releases but they all bonked out on me, giving me a black (backlit) screen. I'd like more control with my kernel, governors and the like.
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Have you tried his .8bfs designed specifically for cm7 based ROMs??
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tylerlawhon said:
Have you tried his .8bfs designed specifically for cm7 based ROMs??
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Probably won't work..2.3 kernel not built to work on ics
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Probably won't work..2.3 kernel not built to work on ics
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Oh, I didn't see the 9 lol. I just saw cm and assumed cm7. Yeah, there's no other ics kernels yet.
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chattguy said:
I'm currently running Aeroevan's CM 9.0.0-RC0-Inc2-KANG, that's packaged with kernel version [email protected] My question is, are there any kernels out that will be compatible with this ROM? I tried a couple of Evan's releases but they all bonked out on me, giving me a black (backlit) screen. I'd like more control with my kernel, governors and the like.
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I have a feeling that we will see more options included for oc/uv in his next release. Kinda think the 1-1-12 rom was just for him to get a perfect base going, now that it's out of the way I'm optimistic that he will start doing his tweaks and bug fixes.
As for different kernel options, pretty sure their are none available, actually I think that the only one building kernels for Inc2 ICS besides the stock CM9 kernel is Aeroevan.

Okay so if I'm stuck on this kernel for a minute, what would the best governor to use? Currently on demand.
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Okay so if I'm stuck on this kernel for a minute, what would the best governor to use? Currently on demand.
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Since there's no smartassV2 and no undervolting I would say yeah, that's what I'm using and the battery life isn't bad. Can't wait till he adds smartass and uv though, I was getting almost 2 days off my battery on Protekks christmas beta with smartassV2 and uv -25 across the board.