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Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
mgalyan said:
Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
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there is no 4g support on aosp roms because the htc code for wimax is not open source. cyanogen only uses open source code in his roms and it is being reverse engineered at this moment. all the other sense roms should have working 4g w/ no problems.
mgalyan said:
Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm definitely not "in the know" regarding the 4G, but I would assume ROMs do not have the correct drivers or settings for the 4G.
However, if you do not think you will be getting soon, why not simply "lose" 4G ? Should you get 4G in your area, wouldn't flashing to an official ROM "fix" the 4G again ? That would of course require you to reinstall all your stuff, and make all the settings the way you want them again, but that's only a few hours of work usually.
For example I saw a thread about someone who went from CM6 to Fresh and 4g won't obtain a MAC address. I did the same thing. CM6 to Fresh.
Someone responded and said he'd have to return the phone for replacing.
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mgalyan said:
Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
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Hey fellow Sprint Evo user from Indy. Lets not worry about 4G in Indy, that won't come anytime soon considering Sprint can't get 3G implemented across Indy.
Here's how it happened to me....
I had my first EVO and I played with 4g before I rooted and rom'd it. After flashing a rom (Stock 2.2 rooted) it worked fine.
Then I had to replace my evo... so the replacement came, I opened it, and immediately rooted it. It wasn't even activated yet, and I did not play with 4g. After flashing Fresh 3.1.0.2 I noticed 4g wasnt working. I checked my MAC address and it was the same as under the battery, but for some reason my phone would not get past the "scanning" stage.
So... here's what I did:
I flashed RA Recovery and wiped everything and flashed to the latest OTA (HTC 3.26.651.6) which can be found here. After that I started playing around with my 4g, and got it to work. Then I flashed Fresh 3.2 and my 4g still works.
Someone had recommended I delete my tree.xml file which I never tried... a complete wipe did that anyways.
Anyways... sorry to make this long. Just chipping in what I have found. I hope it helps.
Yeah I'm not entirely worried about 4G. I just don't want to do anything unknowingly permanent. I tend to sell my phones on eBay when I'm ready to upgrade and a 3G only evo wouldn't be worth much.
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the only permanent 4g damage you can do is to wipe the RSA keys. nobody seems to really know how this happens. it happened to my evo and i had never even rooted before.
Yeah my RSA certs got wiped; had an issue one night flashing a ROM and latest WiMax, things didn't wipe right and all hell broke loose, ended up flashing the WiMax radio twice and that seemed to do it. Someone else mentioned this here and that seemed to do it for me.
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conqu1stador said:
Yeah my RSA certs got wiped; had an issue one night flashing a ROM and latest WiMax, things didn't wipe right and all hell broke loose, ended up flashing the WiMax radio twice and that seemed to do it. Someone else mentioned this here and that seemed to do it for me.
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wait you got your rsa certs back? how????
Ahh sorry, no. I guess I see how that might have sounded like that. Meant someone else seemed to have the same issue, far as I know one cannot fix this themselves.
Sorry. New Evo coming from Sprint due to other issues, but that's how I ended up losing my WiMax.
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Last-Chance said:
wait you got your rsa certs back? how????
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yeah, i read his post at first like that too. when he said "that seemed to do it", i think he meant that is what wiped the rsa keys. but can we get clarification?
sprint basically needs to create a tool that restores rsa keys for the evo. i understand they have this for their 4g data cards already. i'm hoping they do this so i don't have to return my phone (which is otherwise perfect) for some effed up refurb.
EDIT: oops, didn't realize a pg 2 had appeared. so no rsa key fix here...move on...
conqu1stador said:
Ahh sorry, no. I guess I see how that might have sounded like that. Meant someone else seemed to have the same issue, far as I know one cannot fix this themselves.
Sorry. New Evo coming from Sprint due to other issues, but that's how I ended up losing my WiMax.
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are you within 30 days of purchase? if not, how did you get sprint to send you a new one? the CSR i spoke with told me they don't have the option to order new and when a replacement is ordered you will get refurb if they have them and new if they have no refurb. also, do you pay the sprint insurance? i think that factors into this as well. i pay the $7 insurance.
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are you within 30 days of purchase? if not, how did you get sprint to send you a new one? the CSR i spoke with told me they don't have the option to order new and when a replacement is ordered you will get refurb if they have them and new if they have no refurb. also, do you pay the sprint insurance? i think that factors into this as well. i pay the $7 insurance.
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Yeah, I pay the $7 but going through Sprint, not Asurion. 30 days has come and gone but they've been quite helpful about it.
Having issues with the phone that falls under the 1 Year Manufacturers warranty.
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Yeah, I pay the $7 but going through Sprint, not Asurion. 30 days has come and gone but they've been quite helpful about it.
Having issues with the phone that falls under the 1 Year Manufacturers warranty.
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right, i agree that it falls under the manufacturers warranty and i am also dealing directly with sprint but they will not guarantee me a new phone as replacement. it's the hit or miss thing i described above. i called a corp store and they said the same thing. in fact, they said they had refubs in stock so i would walk out of the store with a refurb. i asked you about the $7 thing because i'm wondering if their systems treat the replacement differently depending on whether you pay it or not. i was literally told there is no way they could order me a new phone as replacement and as far as sprint reps go, this one sounded more "with it" than others. have you received the phone yet? is it really new?
Well, dude said it'd be new ... am waiting 2-4 business days as they didn't have any in stock at the store. He made it sound like if they had one in the back he'd hook it up, but they didn't. Am assuming it's going to be new. If not, I just hope I don't come up with some other issue if it is a refurb. Have had bad experiences with refurbished - uh - things in the past.
I didn't want to press my luck and ask if another Sprint store in the area might have any in stock, thus I could head elsewhere ... figured I'd just let it all play out. Time will tell though if it's new or not. As said, as long as I have a phone that works I wouldn't really mind a refurb. But I'd prefer a new one ...
right. i share the same opinion. prefer new over refurb. and i'm hard pressed to go the refurb route now with my only issue being non-functional 4g.
let us know what you end up with...
Yessir, will do.
Got the new phone, everything went swimmingly (do people really say that?) and it appears to be new, guy said it was new, not refurbished. Will have to check when I find the post that detailed the quick way of checking.
People were extremely helpful, 4G is back baybaaaay but also soon to be gone. But, I noticed I didn't have an SD card, not sure if he was supposed to have taken mine out and put it in, alas I just walked out without checking. Sat down with a beer and noticed and had to go back up there. All is well in the world, all is well.
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I just unrooted my phone back to stock because I'm thinking about taking it Back to Sprint to see if I can get a replacement for it, since my WiMax stopped working.. How will Sprint be able to tell if my phone has been rooted or not? By files on the memory card or something in the phone itself? Also, do I need the insurance plan to get a replacement? Hoping to get some answers from people with experience in taking back their Evo, after losing their RSA keys..
Thanks for your time.
I would say the super user application but I honestly don't know.
from my EVO using XDA app.
The SuperUser whitelist app in the market?
If you have unrooted back to stock they won't be able to tell. They won't look at your sdcard, but if you are worried about it back everything on it up to your PC and then wipe it before going in. About the insurance thing, if you have TEP all repairs or exchanges are free, if not it will cost you $35 unless it is a lost or stolen, water or physical damage or something like that then you will need insurance or pay full retail.
Okay, so without the TEP, it'll cost me $35 to exchange it at a Sprint location?
nonpointtruth said:
Okay, so without the TEP, it'll cost me $35 to exchange it at a Sprint location?
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Correct sir.
Just make sure you turned you S back to S-On and flashed back to a stock RUU. So boot into your hboot and check to top for that S-On. Make sure you clean up your SD card just in case too, would be suspicious if they look and they see an rom zips or rooted app folder lol
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Just make sure you turned you S back to S-On and flashed back to a stock RUU. So boot into your hboot and check to top for that S-On. Make sure you clean up your SD card just in case too, would be suspicious if they look and they see an rom zips or rooted app folder lol
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Or just run the ruu.
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Or just run the ruu.
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The RUU won't turn the hboot back to s-on. You have to flash the unrevoked s-on zip and then run the RUU to fully unroot your phone.
So I've got a dilemma.. Like, I wanna go get a new phone, so I can have 4g back.. But I'm going over what I actually ever used 4g with in the first place.. It's not like downloading or streaming music over 3g is dial-up slow or anything.. And downloading apps from the market doesn't take forever either..
So this is kind of an unofficial poll..
Should I take my phone back and get it replaced by Sprint, and then root it, make sure to back up my WiMax Keys, and run the sweet CM6.1.2 with 4g?
OR
Just root my current phone again and cruise along on 3g?
Like I said, I hardly use my phone for anything other than taking pictures, or listening to music.. And thus far, I haven't noticed a quality decrease using Audiogalaxy over 3g..
So guys, what should I do?
nonpointtruth said:
Okay, so without the TEP, it'll cost me $35 to exchange it at a Sprint location?
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Wrong!
You have 1 year warranty no reason to pay anything.
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nonpointtruth said:
So guys, what should I do?
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I have 4g and don't even use it
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Then that settles it.. I'm re-rooting my phone tonight, and rocking out with some CM6.1.2.. I might even try some others, like the MIUI.. I have noticed some stellar battery life with the newest stock update, though.. Of course, that could be because my 4g isn't always on anymore.
nonpointtruth said:
I just unrooted my phone back to stock because I'm thinking about taking it Back to Sprint to see if I can get a replacement for it, since my WiMax stopped working.. How will Sprint be able to tell if my phone has been rooted or not? By files on the memory card or something in the phone itself? Also, do I need the insurance plan to get a replacement? Hoping to get some answers from people with experience in taking back their Evo, after losing their RSA keys..
Thanks for your time.
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I think losing your RSA keys itself is a clue you were rooted. If you have a tech who knows what to look for, they'll know. If you're lucky, you'll get a tech who doesn't know what to look for, but my understanding is that if they diagnose it as missing keys, that's a problem that isn't happening to people who aren't rooted.
nonpointtruth said:
So this is kind of an unofficial poll..
Should I take my phone back and get it replaced by Sprint, and then root it, make sure to back up my WiMax Keys, and run the sweet CM6.1.2 with 4g?
OR
Just root my current phone again and cruise along on 3g?
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4G's very nice to have available. Can you live without it? Sure. But you are paying extra for it (despite what Sprint tries to say). Also think about the resale value of the phone, if that's something you care about.
I'm technically not paying for 4g(employee line).. So I'm not worried about that.. My main concern was someone finding out after the fact, and trying to bill me for the full amount of the phone.. Plus, I can always save up for one from Craigslist, or eBay.. Or just wait for the next big, awesome phone to come from Sprint.. I will say this, I like the feel of the Evo Shift, but it's still an inferior phone, even if it does have 4g.
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Wrong!
You have 1 year warranty no reason to pay anything.
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Well, if the reason his 4g isnt working is because he messed up his keys while trying to root or flash, the warranty wont cover that.
What is this root in which you speak of? That's not why I lost 4g.. Not at alllllllll.. *shifty eyes*
for all you 4g haters, try 4g again. i use it constantly. it covers about 1/3rd of my daily car circle through the city. i say get your keys back!
btw, you forgot to back them up didnt u
I definitely got mine backed up, on my phone, computer, external, AND dropbox! LOL!
Rooting my HTC EVO 4G was cool, but it isnt for me at all. I dont have any service anywhere, my wifi sucks, when im in a 4G area, i dont get any 4G coverage. I drop the majority of my calls like my service is with AT&T or something, and overrall, this s**t sucks. Can somebody give me step by step instructions on how to UNROOT my phone and get it back to NORMAL..?
http://noobgui.de/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
adaniels1189 said:
Rooting my HTC EVO 4G was cool, but it isnt for me at all. I dont have any service anywhere, my wifi sucks, when im in a 4G area, i dont get any 4G coverage. I drop the majority of my calls like my service is with AT&T or something, and overrall, this s**t sucks. Can somebody give me step by step instructions on how to UNROOT my phone and get it back to NORMAL..?
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Rooting literally doesnt effect any of that... maybe you should check your rom bro.
adaniels1189 said:
Rooting my HTC EVO 4G was cool, but it isnt for me at all. I dont have any service anywhere, my wifi sucks, when im in a 4G area, i dont get any 4G coverage. I drop the majority of my calls like my service is with AT&T or something, and overrall, this s**t sucks. Can somebody give me step by step instructions on how to UNROOT my phone and get it back to NORMAL..?
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Well none of that should be going on, something else has got to be causing issues. The majority of Evo roms are very stable, in my experiences. What rom are you having trouble with?
To answer your question, the easiest way to unroot is to download and flash the unrevoked s on tool (only if you've ever used unrevoked forever, which most likely you have). That'll turn S on in the bootloader. After that, download an RUU from here on XDA, and run the RUU from your computer. That will flash you back to stock, unrooted.
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adaniels1189 said:
Rooting my HTC EVO 4G was cool, but it isnt for me at all. I dont have any service anywhere, my wifi sucks, when im in a 4G area, i dont get any 4G coverage. I drop the majority of my calls like my service is with AT&T or something, and overrall, this s**t sucks. Can somebody give me step by step instructions on how to UNROOT my phone and get it back to NORMAL..?
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Nothing you've described should be related to rooting, unless you've flashed something that isn't playing nicely. You are of course welcome to go back to stock, but maybe post what you've flashed and what you were hoping to accomplish by rooting. We may be able to give you some guidance.
adaniels1189 said:
Rooting my HTC EVO 4G was cool, but it isnt for me at all. I dont have any service anywhere, my wifi sucks, when im in a 4G area, i dont get any 4G coverage. I drop the majority of my calls like my service is with AT&T or something, and overrall, this s**t sucks. Can somebody give me step by step instructions on how to UNROOT my phone and get it back to NORMAL..?
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The first sentence of this post is so true.
this phone is ok without root!!
themadmen said:
this phone is ok without root!!
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No phone is ok without root.
_MetalHead_ said:
No phone is ok without root.
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My kind of dude!! Lol.
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_MetalHead_ said:
No phone is ok without root.
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lmao seriously
bkrodgers said:
Nothing you've described should be related to rooting, unless you've flashed something that isn't playing nicely. You are of course welcome to go back to stock, but maybe post what you've flashed and what you were hoping to accomplish by rooting. We may be able to give you some guidance.
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What bk said. Believe me, rooting and customizing it makes it perform better, not worse.
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Rooting your phone shouldn't have any affect on your phone that way unless you installed or horrid ROM. Check the modem you downloaded with your ROM, maybe you could use a better modem?
Why did you post two nearly identical threads? One would've been enough to obtain an answer.
But then again, so would the search button.
I just updated my EVO to 2.3.3 without knowing that unrevoked can't root it. I was just curious if anyone knows if there is any way to root the EVO with the most recent update? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Kire
You can't root or downgrade the OTA yet, you'll have to wait.
If you had to guess, how long will it take? I'm just really anxious to root my phone and put Cyanogen 6-7 on it lol.
In the same boat. Just got a replacement phone today.
It sucks, I just want to root my phone lol. I mean I love sense, don't get me wrong but I just like to completely customize my phone. As well as get more apps.
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I told the chick at best buy I didn't even want her to take mine out of the box. She tried to say she had to in order to activate it, but I told her no.
She didn't have a choice then.
That's funny. It's good you went to best buy, if you went to the actual sprint store they'd be like, um no. Lol.
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I got mine from the Sprint store and started talking indepth Android with the guy and confused him so much that he just handed me the box without opening it. Haha
so where is our root? I would like to know this> This is not acceptable.
I would like to know where our root is as well. It is quite unacceptable. It should have been done before or directly after the update was released.
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kiresocal said:
I would like to know where our root is as well. It is quite unacceptable. It should have been done before or directly after the update was released.
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I'm sorry, but this is what's unacceptable. It's not like you have some God given right to root your phone, and how dare someone not dedicate more of there time towards helping you, for free at that. I mean, what do you think is going to happen? A developer is going to read your post and think, "oh ****, he's irritated, I better get on the ball!"
Yeah, probably not. It's still a sweet phone, just relax and enjoy it. There's more than enough to do to keep you occupied.
kiresocal said:
I would like to know where our root is as well. It is quite unacceptable. It should have been done before or directly after the update was released.
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Be patient, it will happen...
Trying to find a reasonable way to show that Rooting is worth to her.
Any ideas of how to?
And anyone have any issues after rooting?
Tell her it's on sale.
No problems rooting, but there are some who are blaming rooted kernels for sporadic loss of service, while others aren't experiencing that at all.
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Tell her it's on sale.
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THANKS sent your way for that line alone.
I forget how I talked my girl into letting me root her Evo. I think it was for Apps2SD and to open up more space for apps, obviously, that is no longer an issue. Unfortunately, she won't give up Sense. I had her try out cyanogen for a day and she made me flash her back to FreshROM.
It's funny though, I really couldn't find a true NEED to root this phone. It's pretty damn good stock. But that lasted about 10 minutes after root was achieved. Hate that bloatware!
If she don't need out don't do it. I rooted my dads evo bc he travels a lot and wanted wifi tether to his laptop. I didn't root my moms photon or sisters evo bc they don't really need
it.
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And anyone have any issues after rooting?
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you can't take it back to the store for warranty service if they know it's rooted.. at least most of the stores.
jirafabo said:
THANKS sent your way for that line alone.
I forget how I talked my girl into letting me root her Evo. I think it was for Apps2SD and to open up more space for apps, obviously, that is no longer an issue. Unfortunately, she won't give up Sense. I had her try out cyanogen for a day and she made me flash her back to FreshROM.
It's funny though, I really couldn't find a true NEED to root this phone. It's pretty damn good stock. But that lasted about 10 minutes after root was achieved. Hate that bloatware!
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Sammy allowed you to uninstall the bloatware without rooting, I have already removed the sprint crap from my device.
Khilbron said:
Sammy allowed you to uninstall the bloatware without rooting, I have already removed the sprint crap from my device.
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Some...but not ALL of it. The rest needs root to be removed.
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Trying to find a reasonable way to show that Rooting is worth to her.
Any ideas of how to?
And anyone have any issues after rooting?
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Some apps are so useful, they are almost necessary.
Roam Control - allows you to roam in an area with weak sprint signal - so weak that it's either constantly switching between 3g and 1x (huge battery drain), or even weaker, when it switches between sprint and a roaming carrier (dropped phone calls plus battery drain.)
By forcing a Roam Only mode, with a push of a button, you start roaming, usually with a strong signal from the other carrier and there's neither battery drain nor dropped calls.
Khilbron said:
Sammy allowed you to uninstall the bloatware without rooting, I have already removed the sprint crap from my device.
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No, Sammy allowed us to remove about 15% of the crapware. With root, I can remove the other 85%.
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My wife has had 2 rooted phones now, the first was the hero which got rooted and flashed (cyanogenmod) to gain performance (its a dog with the stock ROM) and get the latest version of android.
She recently upgraded to the Evo and the only way she would let me root her phone and go back to cyanogenmod was if i could replicate the sense calendar widget which she loved (full month view). I ended up finding an app called calwidet from egg n stone which shows an agenda style widget but clicking on it takes you straight to google calendar with the familiar month view she was used to. So far so good.
I have my wife's phone running a stock rom that's rooted only. For her it's just about running apps that either require or work better with superuser permission... like widgetlocker, adfree, etc. It's also useful for removing alot of the crap that comes preinstalled.
I like keeping her phone stock and stable. It's not like she has a crappy phone that I need to hack to make it work right...