I hate the word NoDo - Windows Phone 7 General

I have an factory unlocked HTC HD7 and I hate the word NoDo. Just false hope.

Yeah, they should have called it "NoShow"

It's just name.. who's care.
The importance is performance improve and copy & paste feature that's it.

nitroxn said:
I have an factory unlocked HTC HD7 and I hate the word NoDo. Just false hope.
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Have a look at this

what's funny is that nodo doesn't even really do much for an update, when mango comes out in 2012 then there will be a real update, too bad the 1st gen phones will by outdated by then.

orangekid said:
what's funny is that nodo doesn't even really do much for an update, when mango comes out in 2012 then there will be a real update, too bad the 1st gen phones will by outdated by then.
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They're already outdated.

orangekid said:
what's funny is that nodo doesn't even really do much for an update, when mango comes out in 2012 then there will be a real update, too bad the 1st gen phones will by outdated by then.
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Do you get all of your tech-related info from the people who walk around with the big cardboard signs that say "The end is near!" I have to wonder.

orangekid said:
what's funny is that nodo doesn't even really do much for an update, when mango comes out in 2012 then there will be a real update, too bad the 1st gen phones will by outdated by then.
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Do you get all of your tech-related info from the people who walk around with the big cardboard signs that say "The end is near!" I have to wonder.

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T-mobile G2

was offically announces five days ago anybody planing on giving up there T-moble TP2 for the G2 or holding on to it until a window seven phone come out?
ya,uhm i go with no....
but ill hold out for next spring when a
Hardened win7 shows itself with exp
BeEazy10 said:
anybody planing on giving up their T-moble TP2 for the G2
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Seems off topic for this forum...but, yes.
So far I haven't heard anything about WP7 that makes it sound like something I'd want to wait for... And I'm tired of missing the apps/features that have come to Android and other OS, and not WM.
MCbrian said:
Seems off topic for this forum...but, yes.
So far I haven't heard anything about WP7 that makes it sound like something I'd want to wait for... And I'm tired of missing the apps/features that have come to Android and other OS, and not WM.
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Oops sorry about being off topic, but yeah same here i hate missing out on the apps etc, but at the same time i like being able to customize my phone like crazy
I hope to get one this weekend. That's if they are released on Friday as they are said to be.
chevy383surfing said:
I hope to get one this weekend. That's if they are released on Friday as they are said to be.
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G2 this weekend?? I don't think so...pre-order, maybe, but the latest rumors call for an Oct 16 launch.
BeEazy10 said:
but at the same time i like being able to customize my phone like crazy
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Me too...which is one reason I'm not interested in WP7 (based on what I've heard so far, it'll be way-locked-down)
yea i think it might be that way for a while until some chefs get a hold of it
but the specs i dont quite like im holding out for an android with specs like the evo or better
ilikepu said:
yea i think it might be that way for a while until some chefs get a hold of it
but the specs i dont quite like im holding out for an android with specs like the evo or better
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same here im going to wait it out, but rumor is that in europe WM7 phone coming out and about three to two weeks. so we should see some video on youtube soon
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G2 this weekend?? I don't think so...pre-order, maybe, but the latest rumors call for an Oct 16 launch.
Me too...which is one reason I'm not interested in WP7 (based on what I've heard so far, it'll be way-locked-down)
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Mine was pre-ordered. I got a text from T-Mobile 2 days ago letting me know to expect my G2 to arrive within 7 days.
After actually reading that Oct 16 launch article in the link above, the only thing I can figure is that the G2 will be officially released to all customers. New or existing customers. The T-Mobile guy told me on the phone that it would be arriving at my house around the 6th. So, I dunno.. It would not surprise me any if it didn't come out till November 16th. Nothing about the phone companies ever comes as a surprise. But, I am still having fun customizing my TP2 and messing around with the xandroid on the sd card.
wow so there's people on here making off topic posts about the fisher price lookin OS too.
eric12341 said:
wow so there's people on here making off topic posts about the fisher price lookin OS too.
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well this thread haven't been moved yet... so yeah go somewhere with your lame jokes
chevy383surfing said:
After actually reading that Oct 16 launch article in the link above, the only thing I can figure is that the G2 will be officially released to all customers. New or existing customers. The T-Mobile guy told me on the phone that it would be arriving at my house around the 6th. So, I dunno.. It would not surprise me any if it didn't come out till November 16th. Nothing about the phone companies ever comes as a surprise. But, I am still having fun customizing my TP2 and messing around with the xandroid on the sd card.
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It fun customizing the TP2 but i think it time for somthing solid. to much flashing and re-installing app gets annoying after a while
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well this thread haven't been moved yet... so yeah go somewhere with your lame jokes
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not a lame joke, its the truth
Following articles say G2 may be on sale any day now, or may already be available:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-gives-stores-permission-to-sell-the-g2-ahead-of-schedule/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/radio-shack-dropping-the-t-mobile-g2-on-october-3rd/
Not sure about the comment about not wanting to give up the ability to customize (like you can on the TP2). There is lots of customization available on Android, on an OS that is vastly smoother, more stable, and has tons of support from app developers.
One of the few things stopping me from going to Android, is the lack of a ATT-compatible handset with a hardware keyboard. And I might be willing to overlook the keyboard requirement.
redpoint73 said:
Not sure about the comment about not wanting to give up the ability to customize (like you can on the TP2). There is lots of customization available on Android, on an OS that is vastly smoother, more stable, and has tons of support from app developers.
One of the few things stopping me from going to Android, is the lack of a ATT-compatible handset with a hardware keyboard. And I might be willing to overlook the keyboard requirement.
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Typing on a phone with a big screen like the HD2 is not that bad.
I'm thinking of going with the Desire Z (virtually identical to the G2).
BeEazy10 said:
same here im going to wait it out, but rumor is that in europe WM7 phone coming out and about three to two weeks. so we should see some video on youtube soon
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Don't think that's got a hardware keyboard though, more of an HD2 equivalent, perhaps ?
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Typing on a phone with a big screen like the HD2 is not that bad.
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People with iPhones have the same description of the screen keyboard: "not that bad". The screen keyboard is never described as "good". "Not that bad" isn't good enough for me. A hardware keyboard is simply faster, more accurate, and therefore a superior input method. It does result in a slightly thicker form factor, but that's a trade-off that is more than worthwhile, IMO. Especially coming from the best hardware keyboard on a phone (the TP2), its pretty tough for me to make a switch to a screen keyboard.
redpoint73 said:
Following articles say G2 may be on sale any day now, or may already be available:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-gives-stores-permission-to-sell-the-g2-ahead-of-schedule/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/radio-shack-dropping-the-t-mobile-g2-on-october-3rd/
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People who pre-ordered started receiving the G2 late last week. And the G2 board at T-Mobile Forums has been going nuts for several days...crises rising and falling -- lots of drama.

Nodo - due out today or not?

Plenty of people had been postulating that Nodo would be released today, but I do vaguely recall seeing an article on Monday saying it would be out "next week".
Anyone got any ideas?
I'm still waiting/looking for my first update. I guess I don't need it if the new one comes out considering all previous patches are supposed to be rolled into it.
The rumors have all been for today, with the exception of one that said yesterday was the day. The only official word from MS has been "first two weeks of March," which means we still have 6 more days to wait until they end up being made into liars.
No specific date set yet officially. My advice is don't get excited until Microsoft officially announces it or people start getting it. Whichever comes first. I just can't see it coming out without an officially announcement first.
Let us hope for the sanity of some that it comes out today. What ever happened to patience is a virtue?
The official word was "early March" so it could be anytime between today and next week. No one really knows, the March 8th date was a rumour.
Given that device-specific 7389 ROMs have started to appear (HTC Mozart and Trophy at least) I get the feeling that something is imminent. Just how imminent is, of course, another matter....
I got the update thing today, dunno if it pre NoDo or NoDo, don't have any data cables at school :/
brondum said:
I got the update thing today, dunno if it pre NoDo or NoDo, don't have any data cables at school :/
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which phone do u have? which carrier ?
You guys need to all calm down ! Unless you can post (from a certified Microsoft site) that they have said the update is on so and so date ,then just chill, this reminds me of the oil situation in the US with speculators , the more intense the debate the higher the prices get and of course none of them have a clue whats really going on !
The update will come , does it not perform well without it , copy/paste is that the biggest complaint ? have it on my iphone and have never used it , custom ringtones, if your on this forum , obviously you know (or should know) how to create custom ringtones by now!
This forum gives you all the information needed for any number of phones and disciplines , read /learn and move on!
FishFaceMcGee said:
The rumors have all been for today, with the exception of one that said yesterday was the day. The only official word from MS has been "first two weeks of March," which means we still have 6 more days to wait until they end up being made into liars.
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hahaha LMAO
I want the update for bug fixes and application loading speed improvements..
Honestly don't care about copy/paste..
Hopefully it comes soon.
it would suck for the HTC 7 Pro on sprint to be released on March 20th and leave the rest of us stuck without the update.
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hahaha LMAO
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LMAO what?
Vintage144 said:
You guys need to all calm down ! Unless you can post (from a certified Microsoft site) that they have said the update is on so and so date ,then just chill, this reminds me of the oil situation in the US with speculators , the more intense the debate the higher the prices get and of course none of them have a clue whats really going on !
The update will come , does it not perform well without it , copy/paste is that the biggest complaint ? have it on my iphone and have never used it , custom ringtones, if your on this forum , obviously you know (or should know) how to create custom ringtones by now!
This forum gives you all the information needed for any number of phones and disciplines , read /learn and move on!
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LMAO X2
Finally told us someone what we need :-D
And if we do not feel that we have this "need" than what?
You will come over and bomb aour country?
Still nothing here with Focus on At&t as of 10:17am EST
Using the HTC Euro update in the dev forum, gold card installed to O2 HD7 in UK, and first impressions are there are slight improvements overall, few extra animations and email flagging (unless i messed that before), copy & paste works well, haven't noticed that apps load any quicker.
More an overall polish than anything revolutionary - that'll come october!
Microsoft, if they're smart, should be aware of the March 8 rumour, and should publicly address it. "not true", "sort of true", "we're not sure". Even a "we're not sure when" would satisfy people, like myself. It at least would show they've got their finger on the pulse and have half a clue of what's going on.
And just like above, I want it for performance upgrades, I couldn't care less about copy/paste.
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LMAO what?
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LMAO about your statement about them lieing
again
the red prt in the quote
Okay now tell me if this is a lie:
"I will be home by 5." You leave work at the same time you normally do but there is an accident on your regular route. You get home at 5:27. Do you consider yourself a liar? Probably not.
Let us not get on Holy. A big problem I have with humanity on the net is we are all overly critical towards others because we are just a screen name.
Apple claimed there was no Death Grip and in order to throw smoke and mirrors at the loyal customers they announced at the beginning of July 2010 that they would be shipping white iPhone 4s at the end of July. Now that is a bold-faced lie. And even bolder since it happened during a damage-control P.R. spectacle.
So they said they would have an update in February and it is March. Your phone is not unuseable no matter what picture you try to paint. We sometimes get places late. We sometimes finish our work late.
STS (stop the stupidity)
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Okay now tell me if this is a lie:
"I will be home by 5." You leave work at the same time you normally do but there is an accident on your regular route. You get home at 5:27. Do you consider yourself a liar? Probably not.
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Oh gosh...did MS have a road accident?

Just got back to back updates on my HD7 and Pre-nodo on DVP

T-mobile, kudos. The speed difference is great, the old HD7 can finally keep up with the DVP. I'm loving the updates. Have you gotten yours?
Just updated but haven't noticed any speed difference. Nevermind, it's pre NODO. Geez!
DVP is running nodo now.
I just got the pre-nodo update...but i cant get the nodo no matter what i do. Its still version 7008...i shut down zone and restarted my phone but nothing is happening.
stevew84 said:
I just got the pre-nodo update...but i cant get the nodo no matter what i do. Its still version 7008...i shut down zone and restarted my phone but nothing is happening.
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Which phone?
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Which phone?
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HD7 Tmobile USA completely stock...
stevew84 said:
HD7 Tmobile USA completely stock...
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My wife hasn't gotten nodo yet either just pre-nodo, I talked to T mobile and they said they're rolling it all out over 8 hours.
z33dev33l said:
My wife hasn't gotten nodo yet either just pre-nodo, I talked to T mobile and they said they're rolling it all out over 8 hours.
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I just got the notification while trying to sync an episode of RJ Berger. It's Pre-Nodo.
Co-incidentally, I spoke to T-Mobile today and asked about the updates and they said that there's an update scheduled to take place tomorrow. I guess she mean't No-Do. I'm in NYC, btw.
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I just got the notification while trying to sync an episode of RJ Berger. It's Pre-Nodo.
Co-incidentally, I spoke to T-Mobile today and asked about the updates and they said that there's an update scheduled to take place tomorrow. I guess she mean't No-Do. I'm in NYC, btw.
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Hmm, I've recieved both today but I'm in texas... C&P works surprisingly well... the real fix though is the speed... it's an epic increase...
Damn, I've been checking all day for it I'm in actually right here in Austin with you (off W. Parmer). Good to see another HD7 user in Austin for sure. I wonder, I flashed the Telstra rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001019 a few weeks ago, so I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I'm not sure as to what needs to be identified by the phone itself in order for Zune to know what region or carrier and such you're in order for the update to be pushed. As well, I know it's staggered, so it could just not be my time yet.
Were you able to check if the pink camera issue is fixed or not? (for the HD7)
Thanks
Still pink as ever... and I think the telsra rom will slow it down...
z33dev33l said:
T-mobile, kudos. The speed difference is great, the old HD7 can finally keep up with the DVP. I'm loving the updates. Have you gotten yours?
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The speed issues on the devices was never the fault of the devices or the SD cards. Microsoft had to change the memory management in WP7 to speed it up. That was the culprit.
And yea, even though I didn't get a pop-up, I just plugged my phone into my computer and Zune is telling me that I have a Feb 2011 update...
I've never had any pink tint in the camera, though (that's a problem from back with the HD2 as well... wouldn't be surprised if the camera they used is just terrible).
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The speed issues on the devices was never the fault of the devices or the SD cards. Microsoft had to change the memory management in WP7 to speed it up. That was the culprit.
And yea, even though I didn't get a pop-up, I just plugged my phone into my computer and Zune is telling me that I have a Feb 2011 update...
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That doesnt explain why the DVP was always notably faster than the HD7...
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Still pink as ever... and I think the telsra rom will slow it down...
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You think so? I guess I'm going to flash back to stock as I just asked my friend to connect his phone to Zune to see if there was an update and there was. As well, I'm waiting for my brother to check.
kwill said:
You think so? I guess I'm going to flash back to stock as I just asked my friend to connect his phone to Zune to see if there was an update and there was. As well, I'm waiting for my brother to check.
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Well worth it and you can keep it unlocked but yeah, it's still pinkish...
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That doesnt explain why the DVP was always notably faster than the HD7...
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Did you replace the stock DVP SD Card with a higher class card. While WP7 is mostly Random Access sensitive for reliability and compatibility, higher class cards will result in higher performance because they have have better throughput in Read/Wright operations... Caching data, etc. all just work better on the faster cards (don't think OEMs should be putting anything less than class 6 in these phones, IMO).
And yea, this was Pre-NoDo. Didn't get anything after it was done updating, which only took like 4 minutes.
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Well worth it and you can keep it unlocked but yeah, it's still pinkish...
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Also, I think people with pink tinted cameras should send their phones back. Don't think any software update can fix that completely and I've never seen a pink tinted picture on my phone - I've taken about 200 pictures since I've gotten it in various lightings.
Really the pink tint won't show unless you take a picture of a white wall.
Also, no. The DVP I'm testing on is pure factory but apps and other things always loaded faster on it. Now that Nodo is out the gap is smaller but the DVP is still clearly ahead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz-kjpDUZ_8
I don't know why his startup is so slow but as for the game I get a similar result... not huge but there.
the fight said:
I just got the notification while trying to sync an episode of RJ Berger. It's Pre-Nodo.
Co-incidentally, I spoke to T-Mobile today and asked about the updates and they said that there's an update scheduled to take place tomorrow. I guess she mean't No-Do. I'm in NYC, btw.
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R J Berger is so effin funny!
Give it time everyone wll get the updates. Nodo is a nice improvement particularly the marketplace bug is no more

Vodafone group to roll Mango out tomorrow

Not to sure if this is true but just flashed up on my twitter
http://www.wpcentral.com/vodafone-group-roll-mango-out-tomorrow?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter
We can only hope
** Sorry if this is in wrong place***
Nice news!
Do they have Samsung focus in their line up of phones?
Sent from my LG-P500 using Tapatalk
Mclovin1001 said:
Not to sure if this is true but just flashed up on my twitter
http://www.wpcentral.com/vodafone-group-roll-mango-out-tomorrow?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter
We can only hope
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I suggest you include this in this thread as well. great news...
Nope doesn't mention about hand sets but im sure it will be all handsets surely
Mclovin1001 said:
Not to sure if this is true but just flashed up on my twitter
http://www.wpcentral.com/vodafone-group-roll-mango-out-tomorrow?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter
We can only hope
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I hope I can see the Zune update tomorrow.
Will upload pictures once got the Update.
That would still not be fall, right?
If Vodafone is really about to roll out the update tomorrow, if the rollout for users with unbranded devices will start as well.
Im in my office from 8 so hopefully get it all done 1st thing
I hope this happens as im getting a bit fed up now
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Im in my office from 8 so hopefully get it all done 1st thing
I hope this happens as im getting a bit fed up now
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I will be in my office from 8 also. If this is true then i will either get to update via zune at work or will have to wait till i get home and roll back to nodo before upgrading.
That would really be awesome, but keep in mind there was only one "trusted source" for this information.
Even if this trusted source comes from within Vodafone Germany, this is still not a confirmation since the rollout will actually be initiated by Microsoft and Vodafone is only responsible for testing.
Also September 21st is not Fall yet and joe belfiore tweeted a link to a website stating September 23rd as the start of fall.
That being said, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The good thing about this rumor is that we will find out in due time.
Its not fall yet.. i got a tweet from twitter hero telling me 23 sep is fall.. and i was like 'you better not send another tweet before that and ya betta release it on sep 23.'
... aaaaand Sept 21st is NOW in australia and there's been no word (ok, it's only 10:15am but still)
I think the updates are pushed out by Microsoft. The previous updates I have received for my DVP have been released at 10am Pacific US time (i.e. Microsoft time ). If it follows the same pattern, you may have a slightly longer wait to find out whether your update is coming today. Feel free to keep checking though, just in case
Also, plugging your phone into your PC (via USB) seems to be the most reliable way of checking if an update is available. The Zune software will alert you if an update is available.
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... aaaaand Sept 21st is NOW in australia and there's been no word (ok, it's only 10:15am but still)
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Hello from the past mate!
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Another false dawn methinks.................
Guys, Belfiore said "not before september 23"
Why even try to believe in false rumors?
Mango = Fall
End of story
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Guys, Belfiore said "not before september 23"
Why even try to believe in false rumors?
Mango = Fall
End of story
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Absolutely
Happy bunch of people lol
If its anything like the Apple updates they normal hit the UK 9am US time and as its only 2.45am in the morning at the min.
Again it may just be a rumor but its not helping Microsoft in any way what so ever
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Guys, Belfiore said "not before september 23"
Why even try to believe in false rumors?
Mango = Fall
End of story
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I actually never saw him say that. I just saw him link to a description of the beginning of Fall.
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I actually never saw him say that. I just saw him link to a description of the beginning of Fall.
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Belfiore ,twitter ,September 16
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Happy bunch of people lol
If its anything like the Apple updates they normal hit the UK 9am US time and as its only 2.45am in the morning at the min.
Again it may just be a rumor but its not helping Microsoft in any way what so ever
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This was a story cooked up entirely by wpcentral, nothing to do with microsoft. They reiterated recently that the update will come in fall, not here yet. Blame the site blatantly looking for hits.

Mango coming in a week or two!!

Here's the source, finally a word from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx
question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
and do we get the firmware updates too if there is no need to restore back to nodo?
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question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
Awesome news
Just saw the post on twitter, and I must say that I'm pretty exited!
I'm actually gonna wipe my phone before the update. Some may wonder why, and it's simple: My region thingy won't work in Norway before Mango, HAH!
The wait is almost over y'all!
Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Weeks ago the plan was still to release on September 15th (if you can trust the leaked stuff).
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
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Apples fanfare will make mango a near silent memory... poor timing microsoft, very poor indeed.
Also, verizon is lighting up quite a few around the same time... maybe the LTE iphone is possible after all .?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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garymoncrieff
@John, I just asked on Twitter and upgrade instructions for those of us running beta will be released when they have them.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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Well than I would downgrade to NoDo using the backup if you can live without Mango for another week or two.
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Yeah I read that as well but the instructions might just be "downgrade to NoDo using your backup" etc. Time will tell and fortunately it's not that far away.
The only reason they made the announcement is because we now know when Apple will reveal the next iPhone which basically means no living sould will give a damn about Mango. Way to go Microsoft, good luck with that!
I'll believe when I see it. Until then, it's all rumor and speculation.
There should have been a disclaimer that "unless you're on the AT&T network, then you'll need to wait until December or January since Mango is complex and needs to be tested before release."
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Probably because the phone has a radio in it and it's different from carrier to carrier..
Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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It has to do with service compatibility. They make sure the phones perform properly with the various services the carriers provide. Plus, on top of that, they make sure the phone that bares their logo and name performs to their specific standards. Any malfunctioning phone can potentially give the carrier a bad rep.
I know from experience that a phone sold outright...unlocked and from the handset maker...can be buggy as hell. Whereas the exact same phone under the carriers moniker is a sweet and well functioning phone. This doesn't apply to Apple, though. Apple is in full control of any and all updates for the iPhone. But I bet the carriers who carry iPhones are allowed testing before updates are issued.
I'm glad this is more concrete than the fall. Lets see if ATT keeps to their words and updates my damn phone in a week or two.
Not even fall yet and an official announcement. Good job.

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