Where to begin? I purchased what I thought was a real HTC Touch(GSM), only to have received what I think maybe a Chinese clone or Chinese version of said phone. The phone itself is tagged HTC even in the battery compartment. The phone doesn't say DOPOD (Taiwanese subsidiary) anywhere on it but I have my suspicions. Aside from the roms and badges, is there any difference ,hardware wise? I know the Chinese versions can't utilize a 3G network. Is this issue Hardware or Firmware? If it's a DOPOD, will it take a U.S rom once I unlock the CID? Can I save the old ROM (just in case)? Are you tired of me asking questions yet? With the info bellow can it be determined if I was scammed?
ROM 1.11.706.1b CHS
model ELF0100
model# HTC P3450
p/n 99HDM030-00
I picked a bad week to stop drinking tequila.
I had enough of this, I,m going to drown my sorrows. I'll check back in the morning.
Appears to be a regular Elf model Touch?
It appears to be, but looks can be deceiving. Also there are tell-tale signs,( spelling and grammatical errors in the UI, missing features, etc.).What I really need to know is if it is, are there any physical hardware differences between a US model and an Asian Knock-off? I went to the US HTC website to check for updates and I found a rom update. After inputting my ser. number for the download, it replied that it was not a legitimate serial number. IF it is a Chinese version can I convert it to a US model? will I have 3G accessibility? Inquiring minds want to know.
Unfortunately, that I cannot answer--although if it is a knock-off, and therefore of no use--might as well try, right?
Well, yeah, I can try, but I can also end up bricking my phone if they're not the same. Can't I?
I'm toying with the idea of getting one of these Telstra TP 2 handsets off eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HTC-TOUCH-P...ones?hash=item27abd2042f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
I'm currently an AT&T customer living in San Jose California.
What would the downside to this purchase be?
I'm also tempted to get a TMobile TP 2 to get the 3.5mm jack, but I'm not sold on that idea yet ... I prefer the look of the original HTC over their brownish version.
BTW - I truly hate the keyboard mod AT&T made with the original TP which is why I'm not all that interested in waiting for the Tilt 2 ... jsut been waiting for prices to become a touch more reasonable.
T-Mo version does not have the 3.5MM jack.
...one less for the list...
Thanks for the tip ... I thought I had read somewhere that the T-Mobile version did, but I hadn't bothered to go see it yet.
That keeps my selection pretty much narrowed down to the Telstra TP2 or maybe jump ship to the Omnia II or Hero. And yeah, I know it's pretty silly to hate the keyboard of the Fuze/Tilt 2 that much but I do.
From what I understand, it seems like this phone should work jsut fine for 3G with AT&T in California and since I'd be buying without contract the price will probably not be significantly higher for the Auzzie model.
Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431
if you dont plan on swapping the rom, then dont get this version. i have a telstra one and im on telstra so its not that bad, but if you arent on telstra it would get very annoying very quickly.
Well it was ridiculously expensive compared to the std 3G version but it is coming down in price.
If you want the faster 3G speed and don't mind the price then go for it.
I prefer it's styling and keyboard layout to the others and it comes with all the HTC software that many other carriers leave out. I also like the blue theme and have been able to remove most of the anoying Telstra branding with a few registry hacks.
It doesn't have the 3.5mm jack but I prefer to use a dedicated PMP anyway.
@esseff
I recently acquired Telstra version as well and dont want to flash any roms just yet.Can you share how you were able to remove telstra customizations. I would like remove as much as possible.
Thank You in advance
So I was thinking of getting the at&t htc one x but as you all may know it has its own set of issues. I'm on at&t but wouldnt mind getting the international htc one x version and not using lte as I'm not even in coverage areas anyways if you guys really recommend it. I like that the International hox has more space.
Also, not really interested in the galaxy s3 but the only thing that may have sparked interest is the sony xperia ion which is suppose to be coming to at&t in june. I believe it has lesser specs than the int. hox?
Either way, what do you guys recommend. Skip the at&t hox and go for the int. hox? I definitely like to root and rom, thats all I did on the htc inspire.
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So I was thinking of getting the at&t htc one x but as you all may know it has its own set of issues. I'm on at&t but wouldnt mind getting the international htc one x version and not using lte as I'm not even in coverage areas anyways if you guys really recommend it. I like that the International hox has more space.
Also, not really interested in the galaxy s3 but the only thing that may have sparked interest is the sony xperia ion which is suppose to be coming to at&t in june. I believe it has lesser specs than the int. hox?
Either way, what do you guys recommend. Skip the at&t hox and go for the int. hox? I definitely like to root and rom, thats all I did on the htc inspire.
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If you like to root and ROM, international One X it is....no questions asked. Simple and straightforward answer is to get Int'l One X.
Since ur also not in LTE areas, you can't turn off the LTE on AT&T One X from what I remember reading, so you'll drain battery just by having it on and get LTE like stats, instead of the 3G only stats which are nearly double the life.
Get International One X, Xperia Ion isn't good. An actual Sony flagship contendor is in the works though with the Snapdragon S4 Pro chip.
I see your in nyc, any dependable vendor you can recommend that has been shipping the int. hox with little to no defects? I only know expansys-usa but never ordered from them.
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I see your in nyc, any dependable vendor you can recommend that has been shipping the int. hox with little to no defects? I only know expansys-usa but never ordered from them.
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Order from Expansys, or Negri so just incase your model does have a defect, you can get replacement.
The Chinese models (ones manufactured in China) seem to have much less problems than the taiwan models.
Basically SH serial number seems to be better than HT for the most part. Mines an SH and all is well except for a slight flicker on light grey colors (software problem 95% sure but not noticeable) Other SH models have been problem free from what I hear. I have no flex or hardware issues
SysAdmNj said:
So I was thinking of getting the at&t htc one x but as you all may know it has its own set of issues. I'm on at&t but wouldnt mind getting the international htc one x version and not using lte as I'm not even in coverage areas anyways if you guys really recommend it. I like that the International hox has more space.
Also, not really interested in the galaxy s3 but the only thing that may have sparked interest is the sony xperia ion which is suppose to be coming to at&t in june. I believe it has lesser specs than the int. hox?
Either way, what do you guys recommend. Skip the at&t hox and go for the int. hox? I definitely like to root and rom, thats all I did on the htc inspire.
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I personally chose the Galaxy S3 ( preordered yesterday) but I walked into an AT&T store today and saw and held the one x for the first time. I've never seen a phone or anything like this. The design is just too good, even the glamour grey, just an amazing looking phone. As far as you getting the intl' or the AT&T version, well since you like to root I guess get the intl' version. But the AT&T version is just much better right now. Excellent battery life and none of that lag crap.
pewpewbangbang said:
Order from Expansys, or Negri so just incase your model does have a defect, you can get replacement.
The Chinese models (ones manufactured in China) seem to have much less problems than the taiwan models.
Basically SH serial number seems to be better than HT for the most part. Mines an SH and all is well except for a slight flicker on light grey colors (software problem 95% sure but not noticeable) Other SH models have been problem free from what I hear. I have no flex or hardware issues
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correction, it is the other way around
I'd be stuck on 16gb(really like 10gb approx.) internal space, no root or way to unlock bl. Less dev support probably because of this. Seems neither hox is issue free though. Way more convenient to walk into an at&t store.
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correction, it is the other way around
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no...im pretty sure the chinese models have been better.
Most of the problems are with models starting with HT which are taiwan. SH are china and have been better
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no...im pretty sure the chinese models have been better.
Most of the problems are with models starting with HT which are taiwan. SH are china and have been better
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Such is my understanding as well.
pewpewbangbang said:
Order from Expansys, or Negri so just incase your model does have a defect, you can get replacement.
The Chinese models (ones manufactured in China) seem to have much less problems than the taiwan models.
Basically SH serial number seems to be better than HT for the most part. Mines an SH and all is well except for a slight flicker on light grey colors (software problem 95% sure but not noticeable) Other SH models have been problem free from what I hear. I have no flex or hardware issues
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I don't agree with that. I ordered from Expansys and the unit was made in China and I had a yellow spot on my screen.
Decided to buy locally (2nd phone carrier branded HTC One X) and this is made from Taiwan and have no issues at all.
Chinese handsets are the ones that have problems.
I ended selling my 1st One X on eBay for $400 and was not really happy about the return policy with Expansys.
I am living in Japan and I definitely want to buy the new HTC 10.
I am concerned thus that I could have problem to root it or unlock the bootloader since it's my first time to buy a phone here in Japan, not sure if that could be a problem.
I was considering to ask my friend to send it to me from UK, to have a European version.
What do you guys think? Would it be fine if I buy it here then root it as I always did?
Thanks in advance!
In Japan, too, and will be snapping this baby up hopefully when Au releases it in June (my guess, based on past summer releases and what I have seen on HTCsoku). I've had no issues unlocking and getting s-off on HTC phones (Desire then the M7, my current phone) here in the past, so I don't see why we'd have any issues this time. Hopefully, we'll get some joy from Sunshine soon enough and can find out for sure.
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In Japan, too, and will be snapping this baby up hopefully when Au releases it in June (my guess, based on past summer releases and what I have seen on HTCsoku). I've had no issues unlocking and getting s-off on HTC phones (Desire then the M7, my current phone) here in the past, so I don't see why we'd have any issues this time. Hopefully, we'll get some joy from Sunshine soon enough and can find out for sure.
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Thanks for your help!
I was a bit concerned as I own a UK M8 now with a BiCSim provider sim card, but it seems like I cannot get a 4G signal, as I don't have band 1 unlocked on this phone.
For this reason I was a bit worried, you never know...
Just out of curiosity, what kind of ROMs are u flashing on your HTC? I mean, is there a thread specifically made for Japanese phones/ROMs?
Thanks again!
No probs. It's early days yet for everyone, things being tested, guides being made, so keep an eye on the forum. Very few people even have the phone at this point, and we are still at least a month away from Japan release. Be patient, grasshopper.
I have TWRP and still have stock on my old M7. Was easy-peasy. As far as Japan-specific phones go, in the past they have basically just been one or two sub-threads within the particular phone's forum. There are a few XDA folk based in Japan, but not so many HTC users - who knows, I haven't fiddled with my phone for almost two years, so there may be more these days). Best idea is to keep an eye out here and on local HTC fansites (like HTCsoku, as I mentioned - you might need Japanese ability to get the most out of them, mind you).
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Thanks for your help!
I was a bit concerned as I own a UK M8 now with a BiCSim provider sim card, but it seems like I cannot get a 4G signal, as I don't have band 1 unlocked on this phone.
For this reason I was a bit worried, you never know...
Just out of curiosity, what kind of ROMs are u flashing on your HTC? I mean, is there a thread specifically made for Japanese phones/ROMs?
Thanks again!
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No probs. It's early days yet for everyone, things being tested, guides being made, so keep an eye on the forum. Very few people even have the phone at this point, and we are still at least a month away from Japan release. Be patient, grasshopper.
I have TWRP and still have stock on my old M7. Was easy-peasy. As far as Japan-specific phones go, in the past they have basically just been one or two sub-threads within the particular phone's forum. There are a few XDA folk based in Japan, but not so many HTC users - who knows, I haven't fiddled with my phone for almost two years, so there may be more these days). Best idea is to keep an eye out here and on local HTC fansites (like HTCsoku, as I mentioned - you might need Japanese ability to get the most out of them, mind you).
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Yep, checked the HTCsoku website, seems interesting, but too hard for me now, still a rookie..
Anyway much appreciation for your precious info, thanks again!
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HTC in Japan
Also living in Japan. I have the HTC One rooted with Android Revolution HD 92.0 installed. I have a Rakuten Mobile sim card and LTE works fine (when available which is not at many places).
I am also planning on buying the HTC 10. I haven't yet found the detailed differences between the different versions but the Asian version may be preferable to the European version (at least that's what I decided for the HTC One).
tokjdm said:
Also living in Japan. I have the HTC One rooted with Android Revolution HD 92.0 installed. I have a Rakuten Mobile sim card and LTE works fine (when available which is not at many places).
I am also planning on buying the HTC 10. I haven't yet found the detailed differences between the different versions but the Asian version may be preferable to the European version (at least that's what I decided for the HTC One).
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Find this One today:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B01...rds=htc+10&dpPl=1&dpID=41EkBGDHiFL&ref=plSrch
How reliable do you think it would be?
There are no reviews yet and I am scared it might be as scam...
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I don't know but you can find cheaper with free delivery to Japan on ebay
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I don't know but you can find cheaper with free delivery to Japan on ebay
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True, I checked also on the amazon UK website and its definitely cheaper, around 85.000 yen, about 550£.
I still have a 50£ voucher on Amazon UK, still thinking to buy it there and ask my friend to send it to me, I guess even with the delivery will be much cheaper.
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If you look here the price is cheaper on amazon.de:
http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-htc-10
The only thing is I am not sure the HTC10 sold in Europe is exactly the same one that is sold in Asia
tokjdm said:
If you look here the price is cheaper on amazon.de:
http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-htc-10
The only thing is I am not sure the HTC10 sold in Europe is exactly the same one that is sold in Asia
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This is the only thing I am worried infact, because my M8 currently doesn't work with LTE here, but is basically a 2 years old phone, at that time 4G was still kind of new.
For a while I will keep looking..
I should have looked better: there are apparently only two versions available, US and EMEA (see here: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10-7884.php).
For Japan, the bands available are not that great.
Docomo is mostly on bands 1, 3 and 19.
AU on bands 1, 11 and 18.
Softbank on bands 1, 3 and 8.
The HTC 10 EMEA version is on bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40 and 41.
The US version is on bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29 and 30.
If you are on AU, you have only one band available whatever the HTC 10 version chosen.
If you are on Softbank, the EMEA version has all three bands covered.
With Docomo, either versions are possible (only two bands covered)
This was my main concern, if the HTC 10 EMEA would cover the LTE signal or not, hope it will work with my BiC SiM card, I am using Docomo carrier.
I am wondering if 2 bands are enough for a decent LTE signal thus, but if we really will have only 2 HTC 10 version, it should work..
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So... anyone in Japan purchased and rooted the HTC 10 (HTV32) yet? Just about ready to make the visit to the AU store and say sayonara to my M7. I have been looking for experiences on unlocking and rooting on Japanese sites... can't see anyone having done it as yet. I am guessing jcase's method (sticky on the HTC10 forum) will work with this one just as well, but always nice to see others do these things on the exact same version of device prior to diving in yourself (well, for relative noobs like myself, it is less nerve-wracking!)
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So... anyone in Japan purchased and rooted the HTC 10 (HTV32) yet? Just about ready to make the visit to the AU store and say sayonara to my M7. I have been looking for experiences on unlocking and rooting on Japanese sites... can't see anyone having done it as yet. I am guessing jcase's method (sticky on the HTC10 forum) will work with this one just as well, but always nice to see others do these things on the exact same version of device prior to diving in yourself (well, for relative noobs like myself, it is less nerve-wracking!)
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I bought my HTC 10 from Amazon and I noticed that it has been delivered from Taipei, of course Asia firmware.
No problem here working flawlessly, S-OFF, unlocked bootloader, Lee Droid ROM, ElementalX Kernel.
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Awesome - used the method I mentioned? (jcase) I assume it was already unlocked. Which carrier you using, btw? Amazon: might look into that.
Actually I don't even know what is "Jcase" method.
I always follow xda's guide.
I don't have a contract by the way, just using iijimio monthly sim card plan.
Edit: Sorry I forgot to tell you that the HTC 10 I bought is not the Japanese version you mentioned, here:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B0...pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=htc+10
No sure if this is the right thread but for the Japanese HTC 10 models, what keyboard is installed to input Japanese?
With US models, TouchPal is installed and that does not have a Japanese option.
Darkfire55 said:
No sure if this is the right thread but for the Japanese HTC 10 models, what keyboard is installed to input Japanese?
With US models, TouchPal is installed and that does not have a Japanese option.
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Touchpal does have Japanese input, I am actually using it.
Just click on top of the keyboard on the "world icon" and add Japanese.
ExMM said:
Touchpal does have Japanese input, I am actually using it.
Just click on top of the keyboard on the "world icon" and add Japanese.
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Mine doesn't seem to have it. Can you show me how you added Japanese? (Are you using a Japanese model of HTC 10?)
Thanks!