Let me preface this by saying yes I know there are dozens if not more threads on boot loop problems. I have recovered from boot loops before. This is very different.
I rooted my incredible with unrevokedForever and had cyanogen 6 on it. Everything was fine until yesterday I woke up to it in a boot loop, but not the cyanogen boot animation, the white HTC Incredible screen. I can only get to HBOOT, once I try to enter recovery, use an update.zip, or anything after the HBOOT page it goes into its loop. Should I pursue the RUU and find a windows computer or will that not help me?
I think I may have to bite the bullet and buy a new phone. As obviously they will not replace an S-OFF phone. Any help is appreciated.
jenic said:
Let me preface this by saying yes I know there are dozens if not more threads on boot loop problems. I have recovered from boot loops before. This is very different.
I rooted my incredible with unrevokedForever and had cyanogen 6 on it. Everything was fine until yesterday I woke up to it in a boot loop, but not the cyanogen boot animation, the white HTC Incredible screen. I can only get to HBOOT, once I try to enter recovery, use an update.zip, or anything after the HBOOT page it goes into its loop. Should I pursue the RUU and find a windows computer or will that not help me?
I think I may have to bite the bullet and buy a new phone. As obviously they will not replace an S-OFF phone. Any help is appreciated.
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As long as you can still get into HBOOT and Recovery, you should be okay. Your best bet is to get the RUU and go back to stock/s-on, then re-root/s-off (if you want). I had to do this once, and it's pretty straight forward. Just do a search for Bezerker7's Ultimate Get Back to Stock Thread. It has all the info you'll need on how to do it.
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As long as you can still get into HBOOT and Recovery, you should be okay. Your best bet is to get the RUU and go back to stock/s-on, then re-root/s-off (if you want). I had to do this once, and it's pretty straight forward. Just do a search for Bezerker7's Ultimate Get Back to Stock Thread. It has all the info you'll need on how to do it.
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The problem is I can only get into HBOOT, not recovery. It would be a fairly simple matter if I had access to recovery features. Would RUU work without access to recovery?
jenic said:
The problem is I can only get into HBOOT, not recovery. It would be a fairly simple matter if I had access to recovery features. Would RUU work without access to recovery?
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Looks like you'd need recovery to flash back to s-on first. First you could try flashing a recovery image using fastboot, go here for that information. You'd also need to find a 2.5.x.x recovery image, go here for the 2.5.1.2 image. Don't worry about renaming it, you won't have to do that here like the page says to.
Then, you could go here for instructions on using the RUU to flash back to stock.
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Looks like you'd need recovery to flash back to s-on first. First you could try flashing a recovery image using fastboot, go here for that information. You'd also need to find a 2.5.x.x recovery image, go here for the 2.5.1.2 image. Don't worry about renaming it, you won't have to do that here like the page says to.
Then, you could go here for instructions on using the RUU to flash back to stock.
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Your concise post is most appreciated. I will do as you instruct and post results back here when finished.
RMarkwald said:
Looks like you'd need recovery to flash back to s-on first. First you could try flashing a recovery image using fastboot, go here for that information. You'd also need to find a 2.5.x.x recovery image, go here for the 2.5.1.2 image. Don't worry about renaming it, you won't have to do that here like the page says to.
Then, you could go here for instructions on using the RUU to flash back to stock.
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Hit an unfortunate snag right away. fastboot (nor adb) is detecting the device. Screen is showing XC SHIP S-OFF as it should, it is in FASTBOOT USB mode and my computer detects the USB itself just fine.
dmesg output:
[346853.772041] usb 2-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 17
[346853.922917] usb 2-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
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Thank you though that was a great suggestion! (Was very hopeful for a second there
I've never used the fastboot command before, but I seem to recall that sometimes my PC's don't report connection from ADB, but I haven't checked recently... Hmmm...
Just checked and it does report a device using ADB. Did you try typing the fastboot command to flash the recovery image file: fastboot flash recovery /path/to/<recovery.img file> anyways to see what happens? I am assuming if it isn't detecting the connection, it may fail...
EDIT: Did you pull the battery out, put it back in and try to get into recovery again? If you, try doing a user/factory reset + dalvik cache before trying to install a ROM from your SD card.
This may or may not help, but I had a similar issue of not having the phone recognized by fastboot while playing with a friends EVO Shift. I was able to use the program described in this thread to uninstall all HTC drivers. Then, when the phone was recognized and new drivers installed automatically, fastboot worked as expected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
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I've never used the fastboot command before, but I seem to recall that sometimes my PC's don't report connection from ADB, but I haven't checked recently... Hmmm...
Just checked and it does report a device using ADB. Did you try typing the fastboot command to flash the recovery image file: fastboot flash recovery /path/to/<recovery.img file> anyways to see what happens? I am assuming if it isn't detecting the connection, it may fail...
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My ADB daemon would always recognize it in the past, when the phone was working. Yes I tried the command anyway, even though fastboot devices did not return anything. It hung there waiting for the device to be connected.
RMarkwald said:
EDIT: Did you pull the battery out, put it back in and try to get into recovery again? If you, try doing a user/factory reset + dalvik cache before trying to install a ROM from your SD card.
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Yes, I pulled battery out multiple times, and when installing the rom I factory reset, cleared dalvik and normal cache through Clockwork. Cyanogen was working fine for weeks, this is a freak concurrence that happened without warning. I woke up to find it this way, or rather, it woke me up with its constant rebooting. lol.
cf9182 said:
This may or may not help, but I had a similar issue of not having the phone recognized by fastboot while playing with a friends EVO Shift. I was able to use the program described in this thread to uninstall all HTC drivers. Then, when the phone was recognized and new drivers installed automatically, fastboot worked as expected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
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I appreciate the help however I am using Linux, and that seems to be a windows issue. I have not had issue detecting the device until this problem arouse. The sentiment is of course appreciated though, please do not feel that I am ungrateful! You have both been very supportive. I think I have just about resigned to dump money on a new phone. This time I will leave it stock for awhile and see if this occurs a third time.
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My ADB daemon would always recognize it in the past, when the phone was working. Yes I tried the command anyway, even though fastboot devices did not return anything. It hung there waiting for the device to be connected.
Yes, I pulled battery out multiple times, and when installing the rom I factory reset, cleared dalvik and normal cache through Clockwork. Cyanogen was working fine for weeks, this is a freak concurrence that happened without warning. I woke up to find it this way, or rather, it woke me up with its constant rebooting. lol.
I appreciate the help however I am using Linux, and that seems to be a windows issue. I have not had issue detecting the device until this problem arouse. The sentiment is of course appreciated though, please do not feel that I am ungrateful! You have both been very supportive. I think I have just about resigned to dump money on a new phone. This time I will leave it stock for awhile and see if this occurs a third time.
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This happened to me and many other people. It has nothing to do with the fact that you rooted as my replacement from verizon did the same thing even before I rooted. Finally on my 2nd replacement (my 3rd DINC), it has stopped happening.
You're going to have to take it to the store. The guy who looked at my phone looked right at the HBOOT (where it says s-OFF) and then said "we're going to have to send you another one."
So you may get lucky. Your other option (if you're nervous about the store seeing the s-OFF) is just to call Verizon and ask them to send you a replacement. My experience has been that the folks in the Verizon store have no idea what the f they're doing, and you'll probably be just fine taking it in.
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This happened to me and many other people. It has nothing to do with the fact that you rooted as my replacement from verizon did the same thing even before I rooted. Finally on my 2nd replacement (my 3rd DINC), it has stopped happening.
You're going to have to take it to the store. The guy who looked at my phone looked right at the HBOOT (where it says s-OFF) and then said "we're going to have to send you another one."
So you may get lucky. Your other option (if you're nervous about the store seeing the s-OFF) is just to call Verizon and ask them to send you a replacement. My experience has been that the folks in the Verizon store have no idea what the f they're doing, and you'll probably be just fine taking it in.
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That was definitely a laugh. Thank you I will see if I can get it replaced! I've been kinda just ignoring the fact that I do not have a phone all this time... Thankfully I had setup the phone to forward calls to google voice. It has been a lifesaver.
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Hello,
I was trying to flash a new Rom onto my phone (Superfly) and installed the .zip file from clockwork, however, when I try to boot the phone, it sticks at the Mytouch slide screen.
I cant load into the card nor the phone.
Is there any way to reverse this?
Thanks in advance!
Hopefully you made a backup. You should still be able to boot into recovery and restore your backup or even flash a new rom.
sandpaperback said:
Hopefully you made a backup. You should still be able to boot into recovery and restore your backup or even flash a new rom.
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The problem the OP and myself are having is that we cant load Clockwork recovery, and I think its cause when we flashed the new rom, it did away with USB debugging mode, and now we cant get back into the OS to select it again. I too am stuck in this loop, and I might just have to bite the bullet and bring it in to tmo and tell em it just stopped working for no reason...
dion20 said:
The problem the OP and myself are having is that we cant load Clockwork recovery, and I think its cause when we flashed the new rom, it did away with USB debugging mode, and now we cant get back into the OS to select it again. I too am stuck in this loop, and I might just have to bite the bullet and bring it in to tmo and tell em it just stopped working for no reason...
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The USB debugging option means nothing while booted in to recovery. If you haven't flashed the engineering rom before you will need to redo the loop/ota.zip/update.zip spoof to get back in to clockwork.
I did do a nandroid backup, but the phone magically can not find it now. And It took forever to get to work, but I was finally able to get back into clockwork and tried to install another a different rom (Kanged CM6 ROM) but ended with the same results of sticking on the mytouch slide startup screen. Frustrating, because it probably took about 3 hours to get back into clockwork!
Any other suggestions???
wipe everything on the phone, find the thread that walks you through that
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I did do a nandroid backup, but the phone magically can not find it now. And It took forever to get to work, but I was finally able to get back into clockwork and tried to install another a different rom (Kanged CM6 ROM) but ended with the same results of sticking on the mytouch slide startup screen. Frustrating, because it probably took about 3 hours to get back into clockwork!
Any other suggestions???
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As was noted previously, if you haven't flashed the ESPRIMG rom, you're basically looking at re-rooting your phone every time you want to install a different rom. This means going through the whole process again and again and again.
falken98 said:
The USB debugging option means nothing while booted in to recovery. If you haven't flashed the engineering rom before you will need to redo the loop/ota.zip/update.zip spoof to get back in to clockwork.
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thats weird, cause before I could get into clockwork after 2 tries max, not I tried repeatedly for 10 mins and it didnt work, so I should just keep tryin to get into clock work then?
Yes, keep trying. And when you do, please flash the engineering rom and keep the proper update.zip on your card! It will save you a lot of trouble in the long run.
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Yes, keep trying. And when you do, please flash the engineering rom and keep the proper update.zip on your card! It will save you a lot of trouble in the long run.
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will do, theres alot of assumptions around here tho, and newbs to android are kinda expected to know things without them being stated in the threads..
Now I know theres something that makes it so I dont have to go thru the pain of rooting to get into clockwork I'm def gna use it..
what method should I use? Ive been doing the following and no luck so far
1 - cd to android sdk tools folder
2 - vol down + power for recovery
3 - highlight recovery
4 - run loop in cmd
5 - plug usb into phone
6 - plug usb into pc, and before it changes to HBOOT from USB i hit power to select recovery
7 - adb devices sees it as an offline device for a few cycles, then it disappears.
after step 7 I've tried running update.zip
unplugging and plugging back in
ctrl+c to stop the script when its offline
unplug when its noticed as an offline device
whats the best way to get into it now?
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EDIT - finally got it into recovery, i loaded up htc's recover with it plugged it to the pc so it loaded up HBOOT from USB
normally your are not bricked if:
1. you can boot into recovery
2. you can not boot into recovery yet you can boot into bootloader [HOLD (power + volume down) to boot]
Don't worry I got a black/blank screen of death the other day for flashing the wrong boot.img fortunately I was able to boot into bootloader and start from scratch using the ESPRIMG.zip
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will do, theres alot of assumptions around here tho, and newbs to android are kinda expected to know things without them being stated in the threads..
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I agree to an extent, but if you take the time to read through things thoroughly (as in every post in the How To Root or Engineering Build or even Rom Bible thread), you'll be okay. This is my first Android device as well. I put off rooting for a solid couple of weeks while I read through everything I could. I was completely paranoid about bricking my phone. Eventually, I went for it. Even then I had a couple hiccups along the way (including have to re-root two more times), but all the information is here.
So an update:
I went to a Tmobile retail store to see if I could do a direct swap and am having a new phone sent out to me. I will definately take all the replies into consideration when starting the root process on my new one! My final question is, since I am afraid Tmobile will not find my phone valid to be replaced under warranty due to it being rooted, is there any way to unroot and go back to stock? I have googled it, but cannot find anything specific for the slide...
Thanks!
cursexcore said:
[blah blah blah....] My final question is, since I am afraid Tmobile will not find my phone valid to be replaced under warranty due to it being rooted, is there any way to unroot and go back to stock? I have googled it, but cannot find anything specific for the slide...
Thanks!
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My question: did u search here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=660
And found items about the champion build and this little file named ESPRIMG.zip?
U can also check out the ROM BIBLE stickie post.
u can try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713507
or you can try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713507
now if you really searched you would of found your own question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744709&highlight=unroot
cursexcore said:
So an update:
I went to a Tmobile retail store to see if I could do a direct swap and am having a new phone sent out to me. I will definately take all the replies into consideration when starting the root process on my new one! My final question is, since I am afraid Tmobile will not find my phone valid to be replaced under warranty due to it being rooted, is there any way to unroot and go back to stock? I have googled it, but cannot find anything specific for the slide...
Thanks!
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I had the same problem you did, and fixed my phone, so its possible. refer to my post on the first page and then refer to this post and use the mirror that Wes himself posted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7001053&postcount=7
So before everyone yells because of my inability to search the forum, please understand that not only have i searched this forum, but just about every other one. And if someone finds a thread with an answer to my question than i will admit defeat and have myself stoned and crucified.
I will greatly appreciate anyone's and everyone's help.
History in cliffnotes
Rooted with Unrevoked about a month ago, since then been running CM 6.
Have been happy with just using stock CM 6 and nothing else, haven't flashed any other kernels, radios, or for that matter roms.
Have always had problems with random reboots but didn't care.
Last night my phone appeared to have the desire to random reboot, and on start up got into a boot loop, just HTC splash boot loop. I can get into bootloader but if i try to go to recovery it is just more boot loops.
I'm running mac OS X however i eventually just tried running RUU on my roommates computer but to no avail, mostly, i think, because my phone can't boot into a state where its recognized by the program or sync, etc...
The real problem
As of now i've gone as far as basically completely unrooting, using a pc36img that i found through you guys here
So if you guys have any ideas, at this point, i'm completely willing to try them because, this was completely random that it happened, and i really am at a complete loss as to what to do besides buy a new phone.
i love you all in a masculine plutonic way. thanks.
well you could always re-root with unrevoked. all it needs is bootloader mode to root it and then once its done, flash a rooted rom on it, then proceed to unroot.
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btw, i am a mac user too and unrevoked works great. if it fails, run it again. and no need to use an ruu, look up a thread in our development section titled shpped roms and they have pc36img versions of the ruu. you will be able to root with your mac and unroot all on the device. unrevoked has an s-on zip on their web page. to unroot it, flash the s-on zip then run the pc36img zip from the base of your sd card. thats all!
EDIT#2:
YOU CAN ALWAYS FLASH A RECOVERY VIA BOOTLOADER ALSO AND FLASH A ROM. LET ME KNOW WHICH RECOVERY YOU PREFFER, I GOT BOTH CLOCKWORKMOD AND RA.
EDIT#3: LOL, Sorry i didnt see that you mentioned a pc36img to unroot.
why dont you just download download the recovery img of amon_ra 2.2.1 in pc36img format and run it from boot loader. done, problem solved.
if that doesnt work download caukulins format all zip and run it and them reload your recovery and rom
t3project said:
why dont you just download download the recovery img of amon_ra 2.2.1 in pc36img format and run it from boot loader. done, problem solved.
if that doesnt work download caukulins format all zip and run it and them reload your recovery and rom
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I am not trying to thread jack, but i too am having the same problem. I am not a noob at flashing and I am stuck at the white Evo screen and it just reboots when I click on recovery from the boot loader.
I too have flashed the recovery image from amen ra and it flashed ok, but each time I reboot and try to get into recovery it just reboots, so that did not fix getting into recovery.
The problem with the above suggestion is that you need to be able to boot into a recovery to use Caukulins format all zip, and if you can't get into recovery it does no good.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let the both of us know!
Well since you can't get into recovery, we suggested to flash a recovery in pc36img.zip format in bootloader mode.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G On The Now Network From Sprint Using Tapatalk Pro!
paulieb81 said:
I am not trying to thread jack, but i too am having the same problem. I am not a noob at flashing and I am stuck at the white Evo screen and it just reboots when I click on recovery from the boot loader.
I too have flashed the recovery image from amen ra and it flashed ok, but each time I reboot and try to get into recovery it just reboots, so that did not fix getting into recovery.
The problem with the above suggestion is that you need to be able to boot into a recovery to use Caukulins format all zip, and if you can't get into recovery it does no good.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let the both of us know!
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thats why i said flash a recovery in pc36img format first. more specifically this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=483320&d=1294435056
rename to pc36img.zip and boot into bootloader
t3project said:
thats why i said flash a recovery in pc36img format first. more specifically this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=483320&d=1294435056
rename to pc36img.zip and boot into bootloader
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If you read my message you will see that I DID flash a recovery, that same one you just linked, and it flashed ok, but when i restart and choose to enter the recovery the phone just reboots again!
Did you solve this?
Yes I did, I went back to the store and had them replace the phone. I could not get it to boot into recovery for some reason.
I dont know what causes this, but this is like the 10th person on a CM rom that's had this exact scenario. Its weird how it happens out of the blue, and then RUU and pc36img just don't work. Very strange. I was just trying to help a guy the other day in this exact scenario. Nothing would get him out of the splash screen. No RUU, PC36IMG of recovery OR a factory ROM, fastboot RUU didn't work. Nothing. Just bricked at the bootloader somehow. I always thought if you could get to the bootloader then you could recovery, but lately there have been quite a few of this exact scenario, and each one was on the same rom. I would love to know what causes this, when the phone is just sitting there, and then goes into a bootloop out of the blue, and then this is the result. It's leaving me frightened to run CM, seriously. What on earth could be causing this type of thing?
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heppened to me too and since then ive seen at least 5 cases of this exact same problem from cm7 roms. so far no one has found a way to fix it that has been posted here. we have all had to have our phones replaced.
ChacocII said:
heppened to me too and since then ive seen at least 5 cases of this exact same problem from cm7 roms. so far no one has found a way to fix it that has been posted here. we have all had to have our phones replaced.
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Did they give you any problems about s-off being visible in the bootloader when you got your phone replaced? I'm to that point of taking it back with the EXACT same problem but I didn't know if it was an issue. (or is there any trick to get s-on back without being able to load into recovery i.e. a fastboot command?)
i was worried about the s-off as well because i also was unable to change that. all i could find for that was the s-on tool but since u cant actually flash anything, had to leave it s-off. i even tried a battery pull during the radio update on a pc36img so that they wouldnt be able to get to bootloader but i couldnt even brick it. i live more than 50 miles from a sprint store so they didnt make me drive to a sprint store. they sent me a replacement and i mailed my evo back. on the paperwork for the new phone they said i could still be charged 75 dollars for a recoverable phone and 125 for an unrecoverable phone. it was probably 2 weeks ago or so when i sent my old broken evo back and i havent been billed yet so i dont know what if anything they will charge. when i talked to the sprint tech on the phone i told him it was rooted because i knew they would see the s-off and i didnt want to get screwed when i sent them my broken phone and they said "u rooted, ur problem" but he said he would still replace it and he did.
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I dont know what causes this, but this is like the 10th person on a CM rom that's had this exact scenario. Its weird how it happens out of the blue, and then RUU and pc36img just don't work. Very strange. I was just trying to help a guy the other day in this exact scenario. Nothing would get him out of the splash screen. No RUU, PC36IMG of recovery OR a factory ROM, fastboot RUU didn't work. Nothing. Just bricked at the bootloader somehow. I always thought if you could get to the bootloader then you could recovery, but lately there have been quite a few of this exact scenario, and each one was on the same rom. I would love to know what causes this, when the phone is just sitting there, and then goes into a bootloop out of the blue, and then this is the result. It's leaving me frightened to run CM, seriously. What on earth could be causing this type of thing?
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I'm in the same boat buckley. I don't get it?! I did run cm for a couple days but I was always looking at my phone wondering if something was going to happen. Almost gave myself a panic attack so I just went back to sense, lol.
ChacocII said:
heppened to me too and since then ive seen at least 5 cases of this exact same problem from cm7 roms. so far no one has found a way to fix it that has been posted here. we have all had to have our phones replaced.
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And I just wanted to say, that although you've seen 5, and I've seen around 10, and that does suck, that the fact is, that this is an EXTREMELY low percentage of CM users that are experiencing this problem. With that noted, it's still enough for me to use a different rom, at least until someone can at least figure out what caused that to happen. I am just extremely curious, as to what the actual malfunction with the device is, when this sort of things happens. And why it seems to only be happening on CM. (at least from the reports I've seen around here)
Add me to the list of people with this problem. I think I'm going to try my chances at the Sprint store. They've been good to me so far.
k2buckley said:
I dont know what causes this, but this is like the 10th person on a CM rom that's had this exact scenario. Its weird how it happens out of the blue, and then RUU and pc36img just don't work. Very strange. I was just trying to help a guy the other day in this exact scenario. Nothing would get him out of the splash screen. No RUU, PC36IMG of recovery OR a factory ROM, fastboot RUU didn't work. Nothing. Just bricked at the bootloader somehow. I always thought if you could get to the bootloader then you could recovery, but lately there have been quite a few of this exact scenario, and each one was on the same rom. I would love to know what causes this, when the phone is just sitting there, and then goes into a bootloop out of the blue, and then this is the result. It's leaving me frightened to run CM, seriously. What on earth could be causing this type of thing?
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It has nothing to do with CM. It is clearly a hardware problem. It has happened on other roms, but more likely to happen to someone using CM as it is the most used Rom.
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Sorry to open this again, but I'm having the same issue. I'm actually on the HTC Sensation, but I'm posting this here because after hours of searching, this is the ONLY place that seemed to address this seriously.
The reboots began even on the original stock rom. I bought it from a guy on Craigslist, but I'm fairly certain it was the original stock rom, with S-off, unrooted, etc. I thought flashing other roms would help, but they haven't.
Here's my furthest observations thus far:
I have actually found a way to get out of this incessant boot loop. As you said, even recovery is impossible. I was so confused when everyone kept telling me to just go into bootloader mode and go to recovery. I can always get into bootloader mode, but recovery, as you guys said, is pointless, because it just boot loops.
However! I have found that if I leave the battery out for an extended period of time, maybe an hour to several hours later, upon inserting the battery back in, I'm able to load up correctly. But that doesn't last long. Usually I only get one chance. If I use that chance to go into recovery mode the next time it'll just boot loop again.
So now I really think it's something to do with the battery, because when I leave it out for a while, I can finally boot up the phone or get into recovery. I do know that HTC has that lame battery problem of boot looping when the battery is low, so do you guys think that it could be related to the battery stats? When my next "battery-free shift" is over, I'm going to try charging the phone and wiping battery stats.
Sometimes the other way I can get out of the boot loop is to charge the phone fully until it's green, so I'm just not sure. This is insane... any input at all would be greatly appreciated..
jkxklutz said:
Sorry to open this again, but I'm having the same issue. I'm actually on the HTC Sensation, but I'm posting this here because after hours of searching, this is the ONLY place that seemed to address this seriously.
The reboots began even on the original stock rom. I bought it from a guy on Craigslist, but I'm fairly certain it was the original stock rom, with S-off, unrooted, etc. I thought flashing other roms would help, but they haven't.
Here's my furthest observations thus far:
I have actually found a way to get out of this incessant boot loop. As you said, even recovery is impossible. I was so confused when everyone kept telling me to just go into bootloader mode and go to recovery. I can always get into bootloader mode, but recovery, as you guys said, is pointless, because it just boot loops.
However! I have found that if I leave the battery out for an extended period of time, maybe an hour to several hours later, upon inserting the battery back in, I'm able to load up correctly. But that doesn't last long. Usually I only get one chance. If I use that chance to go into recovery mode the next time it'll just boot loop again.
So now I really think it's something to do with the battery, because when I leave it out for a while, I can finally boot up the phone or get into recovery. I do know that HTC has that lame battery problem of boot looping when the battery is low, so do you guys think that it could be related to the battery stats? When my next "battery-free shift" is over, I'm going to try charging the phone and wiping battery stats.
Sometimes the other way I can get out of the boot loop is to charge the phone fully until it's green, so I'm just not sure. This is insane... any input at all would be greatly appreciated..
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If its anything like the evo you might want to try and wipe cache and dalvik cache when you get into recovery let it boot back up if that doesn't work try to fix permission if that doesn't work wipe battery stats when your phone is at 100% using battery calibration app and if none of that works do a full wipe and flash a new ROM or unroot and run the ruu of the stock ROM .
Sorry I know nothing about that phone so IDK if any of that will work for you just trying to help and those are pretty much the steps I would take.
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Happened to me
Hey guys this happened to me and i was running cm and sense roms i have had alot of experience with this and its an actual glitch that causes the os to stack on each other and confuse the boot the only way to fix is to wipe the entire phone back to stock if that dosent work call sprint and they gladly replace ur phone due to manufacture defect its been happening to unrooted phones also from the updatesnot being installed properly phone needs to be wiped every time u do a new rom
I'm currently stuck in a boot loop, with no way to access my rom or recovery. I can only access bootloader. The boot loop began happening soon (around 2hrs) after flashing MIUI; The rom was running, and out of nowhere it just began cycling. Any ideas on how I can get out of this boot loop?
Edit: I'm no longer in a boot loop after installing a different full system PC36IMG.zip. Instead after the initial splash screen my evo goes black and vibrates 5 times, then my green LED starts flashing. It stays this way until I remove the battery.
So far I have tried:
Flashing RA's recovery image using fastboot. (The flash was successful)
Using RA's recovery PC36IMG.zip. (The installation was successful)
Using an RUU file renamed to PC36IMG.zip (The installation was successful)
Using a Sprint Lover's file renamed to PC36IMG.zip (The installation was successful)
For all of these the process of installing and flashing went fine. Yet when I would turn on my phone it would just go right back into the boot loop.
*I've been editing this post as I've tried new things, so you don't need to read through the thread to help me.
Anyways I'm at my wits end here, pretty worried, and phoneless, so any help would be amazing.
Have you tried ADB from bootlaoder or fastboot. May be able to get recovery that way.
I'm trying to do a bit of research, but am a little confused on what adb is. It's part of the android sdk? I can't seem to find it, or know how to launch it. Is there a thread somewhere that covers it? I'll keep doing my research, thanks for the tip.
Its a command terminal but if you are not familiar with it you probably wont get it right away! I am just starting to learn this myself. VERY VERY useful tool though! Here a link.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
I really appreciate you trying to help out. I'm trying to figure it out right now, but how do i get to the terminal? Theres a couple of different guides I see, but none seem to be while in bootloader. The thread you showed me seems to be mostly commands. Sorry for the hassle, I really appreciate you helping me. I wouldn't be quite so pestering if I wasn't without a phone, haha.
ahhh, also, if adb is an exe that opens up in cmd.exe (which i'm starting to think), its not included in my sdk.
edit 2: haha, ok i just found out i have to install adb through sdk, from a little txt file. sorry. i'll get back to ya soon!
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I really appreciate you trying to help out. I'm trying to figure it out right now, but how do i get to the terminal? Theres a couple of different guides I see, but none seem to be while in bootloader. The thread you showed me seems to be mostly commands. Sorry for the hassle, I really appreciate you helping me. I wouldn't be quite so pestering if I wasn't without a phone, haha.
ahhh, also, if adb is an exe that opens up in cmd.exe (which i'm starting to think), its not included in my sdk.
edit 2: haha, ok i just found out i have to install adb through sdk, from a little txt file. sorry. i'll get back to ya soon!
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Jeez sounds like you have a better grasp on this than me already! LMAO
haha, well i'm not too sure. Have you gotten you're evo to be found? Right now while using adb, I'm just told "device not found." All my drivers should be properly installed because I had to install them when I used unrevoked. So I choose fastboot on my evo, and then it shows up on my computer as "android 1.0" under devices and printers... but adb doesn't find it.
I was told to get rid of my drivers and re install the recommended ones before starting. It recognized mine right away. YouTube also has nice how to videos on ADB.
Is there any way you can point me to the recommended drivers? I think that second link you gave me is the same as the first also.
Edit: Every single guide I see on the internet about adb, says use debug mode within the actual rom. However I'm obviously not in a rom, i'm in bootloader, and for the life of me can't get adb to find my phone.
Edit2: Ok, so maybe I can only use fastboot. Right now when trying fastboot it just says "waiting for device," even if it didn't say that, what would i need to do to get on the road to recovery?
So I'm starting to get scared. At first I figured this was something I could fix... and now I'm not positive it is. I've used fastboot from terminal, trying to flash recovery and it says "FAILED (remote: not allowed)" I'm starting to get desperate, does anyone have any ideas?
I'm sorry to bump this, but I'm really struggling here... because I'm phoneless and all , I worked at this for 5 hours last night from 9-2, and now I'm at it again... and very worried. I've read that theres almost no way to completely brick your phone, but I'm starting to feel like I did. It seems like no matter what I flash it just keeps boot cycling. Thanks for the help.
go to the bootloader and ruu it
I have... I took the ruu file and renamed it PC36IMG.zip, went into bootloader and it went through all the steps with "OK"s, rebooted, and went right back into the boot loop.
Specifically I used "RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.11.19_NV_1.90_release_161482_signed.zip" from here,
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/RUU/
Is there a specific number version of RUU I should try? I just tried the most recent.
You have to use the ruu that matches your radios/software etc. How did this boot loop start? Give us all your phone info, rom, hboot version, radios etc.
Sent from my iphone slayer 4G
I flashed a CM7 nightly, from CM, about 2 weeks ago. Yesterday, still using the same nightly (build 1 or something) my phone seemingly out of nowhere rebooted - I wasn't even using it at the time. When it went back into CM7 it acted as if I had never linked a google account to my phone. The first thing that came up was the android google apps screen. Anyways, I decided I wouldn't stick with CM7 until at least an RC was out, so I wiped data, cache, and davlik and flashed MIUI. I used it for about two hours, didn't do anything out of the ordinary, and once again seemingly out of nowhere it rebooted... except when it did it went into a cycle and never reached MIUI, and wouldn't go into recovery, I could only access bootloader.
Anyways, I'll tell you what bootloader says my phone versions are, but I do believe the info all changed this morning when I flashed the ruu file.
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-off
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
Oct 15 2010, 12:07:00
Check your pm
Sent from my iphone slayer 4G
Are there any other thoughts on how to get on my feet?
In addition to booting an RUU file as PCIMG36 I've also tried a Sprint Lover's image as PCIMG36. Even though both installed properly, my phone still staid in the boot cycle afterwards for both.
I've been suggested, and have seen other users suggest on other threads, to try adb commands, but I don't know if i can access adb while the phone is in bootloader. I have however accessed fastboot, are there any commands that might help me? If not, can I use adb while in bootloader? Thanks.
Well I tried a new PC36IMG.zip file and I'm no longer stuck in a boot loop... instead as soon as the HTC EVO 4G splash disappears my phone goes black and vibrates 5 times, and my green LED flashes.
Good? Bad?
This would be the 300th something thread I've read on this subject and this is exactly were I'm at with my EVO minus the last post... I was using warms2p2 with the hdmi kernal everything working fine then I went to change my notification ringtone and bam went into boot loop and never came out. SOOO! it would be nice to save this unit... any help forum members would be great I've tried every RUU out there from fastboot from sd card nothing.
Very intesting that this thread ended this way... please share if you think you got this whooped. Thank you in advanced.
Love the revival of old threads...but did you try changing the kernel?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699565/3.70 RUU Zip.zip 3.70 RUU, just rename to PC36IMG and flash in the bootloader if you want to run the RUU.
I've look around for over an hour and can't find anything quite like this. I didn't try to change anything or put on a new rom - nothing - it just stopped working.
I've been running CM7 for months just fine. I've had to re-install it a few times due to various random errors and whatnot but for the most part it has been fine.
Phone was working fine. I plugged it in and went to bed.
I woke up this morning to my phone getting to the white HTC Incredible page and then perpetually rebooting.
I can't get past that either to get into recovery or CM7.
I can get into hboot but I have no idea what to do there.
What the hell could have happened over night?
Any chance this can be fixed or is it bricked?
This is a known issue. This happened to my phone and 2 subsequent replacements before I got one that it didn't happen to.
I'd call Verizon or take it in - hopefully you're still in your warranty.
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I've look around for over an hour and can't find anything quite like this. I didn't try to change anything or put on a new rom - nothing - it just stopped working.
I've been running CM7 for months just fine. I've had to re-install it a few times due to various random errors and whatnot but for the most part it has been fine.
Phone was working fine. I plugged it in and went to bed.
I woke up this morning to my phone getting to the white HTC Incredible page and then perpetually rebooting.
I can't get past that either to get into recovery or CM7.
I can get into hboot but I have no idea what to do there.
What the hell could have happened over night?
Any chance this can be fixed or is it bricked?
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If you can get into hboot. you should be able to RUU to stock and re root.
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If you can get into hboot. you should be able to RUU to stock and re root.
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tried to do that too at the hboot menu and I get the same problem.
I have the extended warranty from Verizon but are they going to check if it is rooted?
thumpernc24 said:
tried to do that too at the hboot menu and I get the same problem.
I have the extended warranty from Verizon but are they going to check if it is rooted?
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if you can get into hboot they will see at the top it says S=off. you might want to try to get it back to S=on
synisterwolf said:
if you can get into hboot they will see at the top it says S=off. you might want to try to get it back to S=on
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any clues how to do that?
i've been looking around like crazy and can't seem to figure it out.
Feel dumb - I just need to get this done so I can take it in and get a new phone - it is driving me insane!
In order to get s-on you will need a custom recovery installed and then use the s-on tool provided by unrevoked. So you will need to flash a custom recovery thru hboot and then flash the s-on tool thru recovery, and then ruu either thru hboot with a PB31IMG.zip, or with a ruu.exe with your pc. You can get the recovery image and ruus from here http://www.pvillecomp.com. You can get the s-on tool from the unrevoked forever site.
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any clues how to do that?
i've been looking around like crazy and can't seem to figure it out.
Feel dumb - I just need to get this done so I can take it in and get a new phone - it is driving me insane!
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same way you got it off.
unrevoked.com has this info see link below. i also quoted the area you need to look but read it all please.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Installation Instructions
To install unrevoked forever on your phone, perform the following steps.
If your phone does not already have a custom recovery, use unrevoked3 to root your phone.
The installation process cannot take place if the phone does not have a custom recovery installed.
Download the most recent ''unrevoked-forever.zip'' to a temporary location on your computer.
The update can be installed like any custom .zip file. Simply flash it from your custom recovery. Both Amon_RA and Clockworkmod Recoveries support custom .zip installs from the sdcard.
Either select the option to install a .zip from your SD card, or apply it as an update.zip as follows:
Place the update.zip file into the root of your SD card. You can do this with adb with the command: adb push unrevoked-forever.zip /sdcard/update.zip
Reboot your phone into recovery mode. You can do this by removing your phone's battery, holding down the VOLUME DOWN button, and inserting the battery; at the menu, press VOLUME DOWN to highlight recovery, then press POWER to select it.
Did you read the important safety information above?
Do so now before continuing.
Select apply sdcard:update.zip from the menu.
Press VOLUME DOWN until Yes is highlighted, then select it.
Review the output to determine if there were any errors.
If messages beginning in E: appear, stop! If possible, join IRC for support.
Restart the phone normally, then reboot the phone into the bootloader. This can be done by holding VOLUME DOWN while powering the system up. Observe at the top that S-OFF appears.
Optional, but recommended: show your support (and your S-OFF bootloader) by flashing a custom splash screen!
"How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update."
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i also found this video for you. i hope it helps.
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ideo-howto-unroot-incredible-downgrading.html
I tried that and it didn't work
I followed the video and now my phone is even more messed up.
Won't get past bootloader, still have s-off.
now when i power on it boots straight into bootloader so it's really obvious. Wonderful. fml.
I obviously can't fix it and I need a phone. I'm going to the verizon store and see what they say
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I tried that and it didn't work
I followed the video and now my phone is even more messed up.
Won't get past bootloader, still have s-off.
now when i power on it boots straight into bootloader so it's really obvious. Wonderful. fml.
I obviously can't fix it and I need a phone. I'm going to the verizon store and see what they say
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So you can get into hboot and your s-off, but you cant get clockwork recovery to flash as a PB31IMG.zip? What does it say when it auto searches for the file? You say you cant get into recovery, what exactly happens when you select recovery in hboot?
Same thing it does when it tries to regular boot.
Well - it did before i tried to apply that PB file in Hboot. Now it doesn't do anything at all period.
Verizon didn't really look at it and just said they would warranty it for me. Woo!
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Same thing it does when it tries to regular boot.
Well - it did before i tried to apply that PB file in Hboot. Now it doesn't do anything at all period.
Verizon didn't really look at it and just said they would warranty it for me. Woo!
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Well if they cant get into hboot they cant check if you are rooted so your good to go. once it gets to factory they just plug it into a machine and it reflashes everything so they dont check it.
as I said before - when I select recovery it does the same thing as when i tried to normal boot (well now the recovery option isn't even there anymore)
But what it did was go to the white HTC Incredible screen and then just start rebooting over and over....
similar problem
i flashed the new cyanogen 7.1.0 stable earlier today and did a complete wipe. 3g wouldn't work no matter what i tried. suddenly, the phone is now in a boot loop (just rebooted on it's own). I get one vibrate, the white "HTC Incredible" screen and it reboots, rinse, repeat. I do have access to hboot (0.92).
I have attempted to flash what appears to be every available option for recoveries including clockwork, RA, and stock. it says everything installs fine and i reboot. still unable to access recovery in any way, just starts the same boot loop.
attempted RUU both via PC and .zip extraction. PC method says i'm not connected via usb despite proper drivers and phone recognition by window 7 and .zip acts as if everything applies appropriately then produces the same boot loop.
I have tried everything I can find over the last 6 hours of searching various forums. Anyone have an idea on a potential fix or a way to get s-on without being able to access recovery?
I'm about to exercise my insurance plan and put this phone under my tires and slowly back up...all replies are greatly appreciated
Hi,
it is the second time my Gnex went into endless reboot loop sessions.
It will boot, load crash after few seconds and reboot again.
I had it unlocked in the store i bought it, and had stock rom (Not sure about the version).
Tried to do factory reset from fastboot, from recovery, and from android. Also tried to flash custom boot loader, Nothing works.
Although fastboot writes it successfuly completed the action so does the factory reset. The phone will work for few seconds but no more.
Also tried using WugFresh, for factory reset and for Flash Stock + unroot in soft-break status
I have no ideas what to do next,
Please help.
Mike
Hi Mike, I think more information is required.
- What action did you take immediately prior to having your phone get stuck in the bootloop? Were you trying to install a Custom Recovery or ROM?
- You mention that this is the second time this has happened. Do you know what caused it to bootloop the first time, and if yes what fixed it?
- When your Gnex is in Fastboot/Bootloader mode, and using a tool like Minimal ADB and Fastboot on your computer, does the tool recognize the Device ID after using the fastboot devices command?
You may also want to read through this thread.
AvidPhisherman said:
Hi Mike, I think more information is required.
- What action did you take immediately prior to having your phone get stuck in the bootloop? Were you trying to install a Custom Recovery or ROM?
- You mention that this is the second time this has happened. Do you know what caused it to bootloop the first time, and if yes what fixed it?
- When your Gnex is in Fastboot/Bootloader mode, and using a tool like Minimal ADB and Fastboot on your computer, does the tool recognize the Device ID after using the fastboot devices command?
You may also want to read through this thread.
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Hi thanks for the reply, i am a simple user, prior to the bootloop i was using whatsapp, actually the android crashes few seconds after getting a whatsaap message (i recieve notification and it goes down). Previous time also i didn't do anything special. i never installed custom recovery or roms... previous time it was fixed by a lab the phone was on warranty.
And yes the tool recognize the device.
So your device receives a WhatsApp message/notification, restarts, and then gets stuck in a bootloop?
That is very strange, as personally I've only ever encountered bootloops after bad ROM flashes (usually after I accidentally skipped a step somewhere during the process). Bootloops usually don't happen to regular users who are just using their phone purchased as-is from a store/carrier.
If you can get it to boot back into Android, try uninstalling WhatsApp and see if that helps. Hopefully it's still under warranty, as you may have to take it back to the store and have them look at it.
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So your device receives a WhatsApp message/notification, restarts, and then gets stuck in a bootloop?
That is very strange, as personally I've only ever encountered bootloops after bad ROM flashes (usually after I accidentally skipped a step somewhere during the process). Bootloops usually don't happen to regular users who are just using their phone purchased as-is from a store/carrier.
If you can get it to boot back into Android, try uninstalling WhatsApp and see if that helps. Hopefully it's still under warranty, as you may have to take it back to the store and have them look at it.
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Tried to uninstall whatsapp but it crashes before i manage to do so.
even managed to access memory via TWRP and delete whatsaap manually but somehow it appears again after restart.
Something is terribly wrong
Have you tried using Odin to repartition and restore to stock? Could be a corrupted partition. Check out this guide
nthnlee said:
Have you tried using Odin to repartition and restore to stock? Could be a corrupted partition. Check out this guide
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Why???
Just use fastboot, Odin is evil. Nexus aren't Touchwiz crap phones.
beekay201 said:
Why???
Just use fastboot, Odin is evil. Nexus aren't Touchwiz crap phones.
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When fastboot didn't work. i had to try something else. But, odin didn't work either.
mishkap said:
When fastboot didn't work. i had to try something else. But, odin didn't work either.
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Let's see then. Be prepared to spend at least 30min reading, and re-reading, until you actually feel comfortable in what you're doing/typing in. If you're not sure about the technical terms and what lies behind them, read this thread's #1 First Post.
What's your device variant? maguro? toro? toroplus? This will tell which factory image you need to flash.
You need to flash latest factory image, which is (for maguro variant) Android Build 4.3 (JWR66Y). Read #1 First Post on this thread. And I mean, READ IT! Do not do anything else to your device until you do.
After you flash the factory image, that first boot will take a while to reach Android. Chill out. Go get yourself a drink. Take your time. It should have booted into Android already when you get back. It should be fine, but if not, you need to enable USB debugging under Settings > Developer Options, to check the system log.
If after 15min, it still has booted yet, pull the battery out, wait a few secs, put it back in.
Use the 3bc (3-button combo) to reach fastboot mode again. Flash a custom recovery. That's done by downloading the latest TWRP or CWM (i'll leave that choice up to you, be mindful that you might wanna try them both in the future), and running on the host (the PC):
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery_filename_here.img
Don't reboot the device. Use the volume keys to "Reboot to recovery" straight from fastboot. After a few seconds, you should be seeing the custom recovery you've flashed with the fastboot command above.
Now comes the part where ADB is required. I hope you've already read the answers to questions "Where do I get the driver for my PC?" and "Why do I need to install the driver twice?". If not, read them now. Also, read "What is ADB?". TIP: When a custom recovery is actually running on the device, ADB mode is already active by default, so when hooking up to the pc the device will show as an ADB interface, so installing the driver (if needed/not done yet) is piece of cake.
After you get ADB to recognize your device (like, you see your device's SN on the output of command `adb devices`).. You need to copy a custom ROM to your device, and flash it. That will get you, most likely than not, Android's USB debugging by default (read answer to "What is an insecure boot image?" on the first link), and that will allow you to see the system log, WHILE Android is booting up. Why do we wanna do this? Cos we want to see if any errors show up, something that may tell us what's failing.
When choosing a ROM from the Android Development section, ask around in the thread if the ROM has USB debugging enabled by default.
Read "What are the ADB commands?" in the thread I first linked to. You'll need to learn at least `adb push` for now.
Once you get the ROM in your /sdcard/ or whatever folder you like, disconnect the USB cable, wipe data/factory reset, then install zip from sdcard (that zip you pushed before).. Forget about gapps for now.
Connect the usb cable, reboot, and once you see padlock screen go away, start trying to run `adb devices`. Do you see your SN in the output? Once you see it, good, it already connected to adb on the device. Run `adb logcat` and try to look out for errors. Logcat is the system log.
To know how to grab that output to a text file so that you can share it with us.. Google it, my fingers hurt.
Thanks beekay201,
As a matter a fact. shortly before you posted this answer i gave up and gave my phone to a local lab.
But unfortunately they were useless and didn't manage to do anything claiming they don't have spares for my phone, tried to explain that it is not a hardware issue, but all in vain .
Anyway, ill go over your instructions and ill update the results soon.