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I've been through Toastcfh & friends very helpful directions.
My screen at one point when turning the evo on shows the signature HTC Quietly..(Something in green). It also had a lot of option that seemed to be unlocked/nang unprotect stuff. Like i remember one of apps that were on there like: wiconfig. These apps looked like back doors to options and setting that are for superadmin privileges.
Whenever I finish the last two steps in Toastcfh & friends' instructions I'm back to the normal HTC screen when turning it on. In this state I don't see all the extra apps that seem to let me have superadmin privileges.
I've gone back and forth by using ROM management and Toastcfh's method but every time I go back or forward I have to lose all the apps I've downloaded and most of my settings. Is this normal?
Is there something I'm doing wrong? Am I supposed to flash every time I want to be in "hack" mode or something? Very new to this, need some help from the pro's. What I'm trying to achieve is something permanent that gives me access to taking off sprint apps, free tethering like hotspot and normal awesome day to day HTC Evo phone usage.
I sure hope you didn't remove NAND. (just a quick joke)
Anyways, every time you flash to another ROM you should always clear apps and data. Many ROMs will do it for you.
Some ROMs have updates and the maker will allow it to just be updated, but even so it's not always recommended.
If you're doing alot of experimenting, just do a nandroid backup of a ROM you don't mind defaulting to if you end up wanting to revert back. A nandroid backup is an entire backup with data (apps) and all.
ALSO, to get into "hack mode" (referred to as recovery) you just hold the volume down and press power.
If it asks to flash and/or reboot just say no and select recovery. If you want it to stop asking to flash just rename PC36IMG.zip (on your sd card) to something else.
If you followed part 2 (which it sounds like you did) you will have a modded recovery menu to make things easy.
Do you know right off your head what thread talks about how to Nandroid backups? If not ill do my searching.
Thanks
P.s recommend any roms I might like to stick with?
slimm9969 said:
Do you know right off your head what thread talks about how to Nandroid backups? If not ill do my searching.
Thanks
P.s recommend any roms I might like to stick with?
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Here's a pretty good thread to look at...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=123714
I want to root my phone so I can use rooted apps like tether, but I dont want to change anything else. I am perfectly happy with the way the phone is set up right now and which apps I have loaded.
So my question is, is it possible to root the phone and then not load a custom Rom or erase ANYTHING I have on the phone now. Honestly I have the phone exactly how I want it and don't want to have to set it all up again.
Before anyone says anything, yes I know there are better roms out there that are faster, I know there are cooler roms out there, Yes I know there are roms that I can customize any way I want. And eventually I will use them, but for now I dont want to change anything except for the root issue.
I have used the sdearch feature and i keep coming up short. So please dont flame me for not using the search, I have been using the search for 2 and a half hours now and am tired.
I have seen multiple different one click tutorial on here but most of them I read comes with a new rom.
Here is what I have:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
Oct 15 2010,12:-7:00
ANDROID VERSION 2.2
BASEBAND VERSION 2.15.00.11.19
KERNAL VERSION 2.6.32.17-gee557fd
BUILD NUMBER 3.70.651.1 CL294884 release-keys
SOFTWARE NUMBER 3.70.651.1
BROWSER VERSION WebKit 3.1
PRI VERSION 1.90_003
PRL VERSION 60672
If you do know of a way to root this without changing anything please post a link to the tutorial for me if you have it or keywords I can use to find the tutorial you are talking about.
Thanx in advance.
Unrevoked will do exactly this. It just roots your phone, adds clockwork mod recovery, and a superuser app. Other than that, everything else is left the same.
Here is the link to the thread on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895208
And everything you need can be found at www.unrevoked.com.
Yep. Use revoked. I did mine over the weekend for the same reasons. My only question would be which version. 3.30 vs 3.31. I believe 3.31 was in response to the older way some Roms are done.
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unrevoked is what you are looking for.
BUT I WARN YOU unrevoked has led to many bricks. it is the #1 brick method i have heard of recently. so be wary.
still, #1 is still bearly any. maybe 1 in 5000? more?
all i know is there are many people that pop up on the irc stuck at a white screen after running unrevoked.
It doesnt have to hurt to wipe......
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
eventually, after you root, you can use an app called titanium backup in order to backup all apps and the data that they contain, keeping all info of everything. you will need to root first. i know the feeling, of only wanting to root for the wifi tether, so start with unrevoked (cross fingers, there really is not much of a chance of brick) and maybe once the next ota comes (which you wont be able to recieve with root) you can switch roms.
Is that an Evo? You need to update your prl. Current is 60674.
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sitlet said:
Unrevoked will do exactly this. It just roots your phone, adds clockwork mod recovery, and a superuser app. Other than that, everything else is left the same.
Here is the link to the thread on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895208
And everything you need can be found at www.unrevoked.com.
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Thanx it worked great. You da man!!! Thanx for the links
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unrevoked is what you are looking for.
BUT I WARN YOU unrevoked has led to many bricks. it is the #1 brick method i have heard of recently. so be wary.
still, #1 is still bearly any. maybe 1 in 5000? more?
all i know is there are many people that pop up on the irc stuck at a white screen after running unrevoked.
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Worked with no brick but thanx for the heads up.
Jimdog420 said:
It doesnt have to hurt to wipe......
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
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I know, I wiped my hero and would put new roms and even did a custom boot screen. Just not that interested in doing it to the evo right now. Honestly I am perfectly happy with it the way it is.
dkdude36 said:
eventually, after you root, you can use an app called titanium backup in order to backup all apps and the data that they contain, keeping all info of everything. you will need to root first. i know the feeling, of only wanting to root for the wifi tether, so start with unrevoked (cross fingers, there really is not much of a chance of brick) and maybe once the next ota comes (which you wont be able to recieve with root) you can switch roms.
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Thanx for the heads up. Seams to be a good prog. Had it go into an infinite loop a couple times when trying to do certain tasks but backs up files nicely.
Revoke was bricking due to the new way some things were done with the 3.3xxx Evo updates. The 3.3 and 3.31 of unrevolked fixed that (well for most I would think)
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3.3.1 is out? ok it might be brick free then
Well, you can use a "temporary" root, such as z4root so you don't loose anything and if you reboot you won't have root, leaving your phone the way it is
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Well, you can use a "temporary" root, such as z4root so you don't loose anything and if you reboot you won't have root, leaving your phone the way it is
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that almost always only works if you wipe first so it can exploit. sorry to say, but it is true.
dkdude36 said:
that almost always only works if you wipe first so it can exploit. sorry to say, but it is true.
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I was rooted with Unrevoked 3.21, and then decided to unroot. I was able to use z4root (temporary root) once after I unrooted - just long enough to restore my apps and data from Titanium Backup. But now whenever I run z4root, it says it completed the temporary root, but Titanium Backup no longer works saying I'm not rooted. So why would z4root work once and then stop?
because you wiped (unrooted) before you used it the first time. i'm telling you it almost ALWAYS only works after a full wipe for a strange reason.
Rooting won't wipe anything. It just turns s-off and gives you superuser app. Once you root you should get Titanium backup. Once installed, open and hit menu. Then select batch and then run backup all apps and system settings. This will backup EVERYTHING to your sd. Now, if you do install a rom, all you have to do is run a batch restore all apps and system data. You can set schedules to backup in the middle of the night while you sleep, every other couple of days. This will be your best friend and I suggest getting pro. It's worth the couple bucks.
Also once rooted, power off and go into recovery (hold volume down and press and hold power) till you get into bootloader. Now select recovery. Go to nandroid and and make a backup imediately. This backs up the the entire system, so if anything goes wrong with flashing anything, you can just go into recovery again and restore. I like to connect to the computer right after I make a backup and go into my sd/nandroid/backup and rename the file with the name, date and time. If you do this right after rooting, I would call it stock.
I hope this helps you out and makes you feel better about rooting. You won't loose your apps or settings so go ahead and root.
If you want help or advice with more things you can do once rooted, send me a personal message and I will be help you out.
Steve
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Rooting won't wipe anything. It just turns s-off and gives you superuser app. Once you root you should get Titanium backup. Once installed, open and hit menu. Then select batch and then run backup all apps and system settings. This will backup EVERYTHING to your sd. Now, if you do install a rom, all you have to do is run a batch restore all apps and system data. You can set schedules to backup in the middle of the night while you sleep, every other couple of days. This will be your best friend and I suggest getting pro. It's worth the couple bucks.
Also once rooted, power off and go into recovery (hold volume down and press and hold power) till you get into bootloader. Now select recovery. Go to nandroid and and make a backup imediately. This backs up the the entire system, so if anything goes wrong with flashing anything, you can just go into recovery again and restore. I like to connect to the computer right after I make a backup and go into my sd/nandroid/backup and rename the file with the name, date and time. If you do this right after rooting, I would call it stock.
I hope this helps you out and makes you feel better about rooting. You won't loose your apps or settings so go ahead and root.
If you want help or advice with more things you can do once rooted, send me a personal message and I will be help you out.
Steve
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correction: UNREVOKED doesnt wipe anything, but it also can damage or corrupt phone sometimes. doing the manuall method is much smarter and safer, and you also get to learn the ropes of android a bit.
wiping really isnt as devistating as you think. just backup contacts, all your apks (sorry no data) and anything else important.
I finally took the plunge and rooted it on my friends Mac on 2/4/2011 with the unrevoked3 method. It was quick and easy. I have downloaded a few apps...
setCPU, Rom manager, Titanium backup, wifi tether +++
Before I do anything I have a couple of questions.
Does anyone use their wifi tether as their only source of internet at home? How does Sprint not know that you are using this when you are racking up a large amount of data usage? I connected 2 computers to my phone and ran a live broadcast through ustream, they both played fine.
Also, when I went into recovery mode there was not an option to do a nandroid back up, what did I miss? I thought that unrevoked would put this option in there. It does give me the option to backup and restore but I do not think this is the same.
Before I do anything else, is there a thread that anyone recommends me reading, there is a lot out there. Something step by step perhaps?
I think the answer is to flash amonRA to get the nandroid, correct? I found this...
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_switch_from_ClockWorkMod_to_Amon_RA
Sorry if this has need asked.a.hundred times but there seems to be a lot of info out there and things get updated fast...especially if your a slow mean...
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The easiest way I know to do it is to download ROM manager from the market then open it up and click "Flash alternate recovery", this will install Amon Ra (its' better than ClockworkMod for various reasons). After you've done that then click "Reboot into Recovery" from ROM manager (or just power off and do it manually). Go to "Backup/Restore" and click it, then choose "Nandroid Backup" and click it... that's what you want to do to make a backup of your current set up.. the links below should get ya started on flashin ROMs and kernels and such (I'm pretty sure they explain how to use titanium backup and stuff to save all your data/contacts/apps so you can restore them after the flash).... Also, I dont know how many people do this, but I went ahead and copied some of my androids to my desktop just in case my SD card fails.. it seems to happen every now and then.. Good luck... Oh, and go to the Android Dev forum and start reading about ROMs... then flash away
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9100239&postcount=15
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Kernels
You can do a nandroid backup on both amon ra and clockworks. Look through the menus carefully. Sprint doesn't really care but its obvious when someone is tethering sometimes. Especially if you are like some people and go crazy on it like downloading torrents.
I have Slingbox (broadcasts my home TV via the internet) which I watch sometimes when I'm traveling. Its does use a lot of bandwidth but its not as often to get me kicked off. As long as you don't go crazy doing things like torrents, massive downloading uploading, too much streaming you should be fine. Only people who do something crazy like hit about 20TB per month of data get booted. If you want to use it as primary data, I suggest paying the $30 a month if it is enough for you.
Yeah, you can do it on both but apparently there is debate as to whether Clockwork Mod actually backs up the RSA keys correctly and whether it wipes as good as it should... that's why I recommended Amon Ra... But you can use whichever one you want..
And I would be careful using the wi-fi tether for youre sole internet source.... prolly asking for problems, but who knows..
Please make sure go get Amon Ra recovery over clockworkMod.
Worlds better, in my opinion.
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Thank you for to replies. I do have Rom manager installed but I was waiting a few before I pulled the trigger on doing anything extra, like flashing another recovery, Rom, etc...
Does the amonRA automatically back up the RSA keys? I have read that flashing certain item could damage these and make you lose 4g forever. Since I am a newb at this I am only going to start flashing things that my friend has already done, I think this is a good way to "safely" learn how to do this.
Also, does it matter that my phone was rooted on a MAC but I am going to be flashing stuff from my PC? I think no but I wanted to ask anyway.
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I'm not sure that Amon Ra actually backs up the RSA keys, I'm sure there are plenty of people that can answer that on here though... but, here's a link that will show you how to back them up for sure... Also, there's a link in that article to a thread on XDA that has another method for backing them up, but it uses adb and is a little more complicated.... so run this and then make sure you have the OEM-RSA file, make a nandroid and then you should be able to flash whatever you want and always be able to go back to stock....
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/01/how-to-backup-htc-evos-wimax-rsa-encryption-keys.html
and no, it doesnt matter that you did it on a MAC...
Please be patient with me, I'm new to the entire smartphone era.
I've spent the last week or so scouring these forums deciding what I can and cannot do with my brand new Epic. What I unfortunately was unable to find were directions put into laymans terms as exactly how to properly flash your phone (I am still even unsure as to the correct terminology for many things). When I read the wiki and the forums I'm lost about a paragraph in.
It would be incredibly appreciated if any of you had tips for a new person to these forums and to this lifestyle itself. I'd love to know how to properly modify my phone without breaking it (and not feel like I'm reading a medical dictionary). When/if I do mod my phone, I'd like to know how to go about restoring it should I for whatever reason need to take it in to the extremely... helpful.. Sprint store here in my area. I'm pretty quick to learn and as I said, I'd really love if someone willing to be patient with me would explain to me the ins and outs I would need to know to take advantage of my phones capabilities.
Well most roms now use ext4 filesystem instead of RFS (default) so you have to install Clockwork Mod 3 which will auto convert it
CWM3 directions:
Download Here
On phone go to applications -> development -> usb debugging (turn on)
plug phone into usb port, run the run.bat from the CWM folder (it might say something like restart server and wait for phone to reconnect i generally just close the window and run the run.bat again then it'll mount as r/w and install)
Then after your phone reboots transfer any ec05 ext4 rom to your sdcard, i suggest This one.
After that turn off your phone completely.
Hold volume down, camera button, power. This will boot into clockworkmod.
CWM will backup all data, format, then restore the data... it'll take a few minutes.
Now if you want to start fresh click wipe data / wipe cache and also go to advanced/wipe dalvic cache. If you want to keep all your apps just proceed to the next step
go to Install from sdcard, browse sdcard for the rom.zip, select it, let it do its magic, after its done go back to the main menu, reboot system, and you're done
EDIT: Cwm controls -> volume up/down to naviage, Power = back, Camera = select. I think you can also use the keyboard arrows and stuff but i find it easier using the buttons
I think you should start him with cw2.5 instead of 3.0. 3.0 will brick his phone unless he is ready to flash a rom right alway!!
Those directions are much easier to follow.
What are the negatives to doing this to your phone (besides the ultimate brick)? Would doing this allow me to give my phone the ability to hotspot it?
How would I go about restoring it should I not like Syndicate and wish to return to stock?
OmegaMateria said:
Those directions are much easier to follow.
What are the negatives to doing this to your phone (besides the ultimate brick)? Would doing this allow me to give my phone the ability to hotspot it?
How would I go about restoring it should I not like Syndicate and wish to return to stock?
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If I was you I wouldn't be in such a rush to flash a rom. Root first and take from there. It took me a whole month to flash a rom before I felt comfortable with the terminology. Catch up on some reading first
hi I also am still new to this even though i flashed my phone at least a 100 times and got my buddys epic rooted i followed this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067. they did a great job with links to get cwm2.5 and also the adb files. so when you root your phone the computer will find your phone. One thing that did keep me held up for a while was when you have your phone in debug mode. connect the phone to the usb. but do not press connect on your phone. hope this helps some. I spent about 3 long days reading and gathering everything before trying and like a day and a half trying.
shook187 said:
If I was you I wouldn't be in such a rush to flash a rom. Root first and take from there. It took me a whole month to flash a rom before I felt comfortable with the terminology. Catch up on some reading first
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You're probably very right.
What permissions does rooting get me? To root my phone I should use clockwork or something different? If so, you suggested 3.0 and someone else 2.5. Opinions on both for a newbie?
shook187 said:
I think you should start him with cw2.5 instead of 3.0. 3.0 will brick his phone unless he is ready to flash a rom right alway!!
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No such thing will occur. He might get it into a position of where he can only use odin but certainly not a brick. I have heard of only 1 person bricking their phone in 6 mths and that was a dev cuz he was messing with the bootloader. Jump in at your own pace.
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You're probably very right.
What permissions does rooting get me? To root my phone I should use clockwork or something different? If so, you suggested 3.0 and someone else 2.5. Opinions on both for a newbie?
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I never suggested 3.0, I would do 2.5. 3.0 Requires you to flash a rom cause it won't boot without a rom. If you use 3.0 without flushing a rom, you'll get stuck at the samsung screen.
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I never suggested 3.0, I would do 2.5. 3.0 Requires you to flash a rom cause it won't boot without a rom. If you use 3.0 without flushing a rom, you'll get stuck at the samsung screen.
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Sorry, my mistake!!
I'll check out 2.5. Anything I should know about rooting in general?
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Sorry, my mistake!!
I'll check out 2.5. Anything I should know about rooting in general?
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The main thing which you already mention is the free wireless tether.
CWM 2.5.5 = the RFS root method. You can use it to install EC05 roms that have RFS support
It allows you to run programs with superuser... such as wifi tether, wireless tether, titanium backup, root explorer... thats about it for the basic user
If you want tweaks/fixes what you want is a custom rom... most all will have
Call log fix (remove the sms notifications from in your call log), Kernel fixes/updates/added features, deodexed, zipaligned, custom boot animations, voodoo audio/color, custom touchwiz, etc..
You wont brick your phone regardless, but if you do it exactly as i typed you wont have any problems either . The reason you want to put a rom on your sdcard before you boot into CWM3 is so you can flash a compatible rom that has a ext4 kernel...
EDIT: and regarding the negatives, well you wont brick your phone unless say your battery dies as you flash it... The ext4 non-journaled will actually make your phone last longer over the RFS system. The only thing I can think of is the root method removes the Free HD games and Asphalt 5 Demo which the official OTA updates check for when u get them. Doesn't matter though because you can update your rom through CWM anyways lol.
About positives, atleast for me: Longer battery life, faster phone, less annoying bugs, sexy look, custom boot/shutdown, free wifi tether/wired tether, automatic backups set every night at 5am.
I went straight to cwm 3.0.0.6 as a noob but I must have read 1000 posts in various forums regarding root, the file system(s), custom software/ROMs/kernels. The key is read post after post about where others have had issues until you no longer come accross any new issues. Then you know what you are getting into. Just remeber, glitches can occur and during flashing, there are writes that have no error checking and sometimes require a reflash at best and a system restore at worst. It comes with the territory. It is unlikely you will brick your device as long as you are careful to follow insructions, although the reality is (no matter how many times you hear how safe it is) that there is a very very slight chance that a glitch while using software such as odin could send you back to the Sprint store for a new one. Its exceedingly rare, though.
The small risk was worth getting the phone that I wanted originally - instant responsivness, access to every customization and dev. level control of the hardware (free tethering!) - everything runs better - games,browsers,vids (look better and sound better), music sounds better, etc. Etc. There are some seriously talented devs. here. If you decide to take the plunge, check out k0's ACS Frozen ROM and mysteryEmotionz (sp?) Theme(s). When you go from stock to those, you can't help but wonder WTF sprint and samsung are thinking. Yeah, its that good.
Good luck!
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CWM 2.5.5 = the RFS root method. You can use it to install EC05 roms that have RFS support
It allows you to run programs with superuser... such as wifi tether, wireless tether, titanium backup, root explorer... thats about it for the basic user
If you want tweaks/fixes what you want is a custom rom... most all will have
Call log fix (remove the sms notifications from in your call log), Kernel fixes/updates/added features, deodexed, zipaligned, custom boot animations, voodoo audio/color, custom touchwiz, etc..
You wont brick your phone regardless, but if you do it exactly as i typed you wont have any problems either . The reason you want to put a rom on your sdcard before you boot into CWM3 is so you can flash a compatible rom that has a ext4 kernel...
EDIT: and regarding the negatives, well you wont brick your phone unless say your battery dies as you flash it... The ext4 non-journaled will actually make your phone last longer over the RFS system. The only thing I can think of is the root method removes the Free HD games and Asphalt 5 Demo which the official OTA updates check for when u get them. Doesn't matter though because you can update your rom through CWM anyways lol.
About positives, atleast for me: Longer battery life, faster phone, less annoying bugs, sexy look, custom boot/shutdown, free wifi tether/wired tether, automatic backups set every night at 5am.
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I went into the run.bat file in the one click root and removed the 2 lines that give the command to delete the free hd games demo and asphalt 5 demo. Ran the one click root, and I still have those 2 installed on my phone. Beats having to reinstall them again in the future and preventing an update because of the missing apps.
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I went straight to cwm 3.0.0.6 as a noob but I must have read 1000 posts in various forums regarding root, the file system(s), custom software/ROMs/kernels. The key is read post after post about where others have had issues until you no longer come accross any new issues. Then you know what you are getting into. Just remeber, glitches can occur and during flashing, there are writes that have no error checking and sometimes require a reflash at best and a system restore at worst. It comes with the territory. It is unlikely you will brick your device as long as you are careful to follow insructions, although the reality is (no matter how many times you hear how safe it is) that there is a very very slight chance that a glitch while using software such as odin could send you back to the Sprint store for a new one. Its exceedingly rare, though
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Yeah I've spent the entire week when not at work reading about it to see if it's worth it. I have a hard time following the directions I find though because they're normally written for experienced folks and not beginners.
Apart from Rooting it (as explained very well earlier) I still have no clue about flashing, how it works, or how to do it. Nor do I want to just fiddle around with it and break it. I can't find a good guide on ODIN or backing up that I can understand comfortably enough to risk flashing my phone so I'm kindof at a loss.
Go on YouTube and search "randyshear". He has step by step videos for pretty much everything. Makes it easy
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Yeah I've spent the entire week when not at work reading about it to see if it's worth it. I have a hard time following the directions I find though because they're normally written for experienced folks and not beginners.
Apart from Rooting it (as explained very well earlier) I still have no clue about flashing, how it works, or how to do it. Nor do I want to just fiddle around with it and break it. I can't find a good guide on ODIN or backing up that I can understand comfortably enough to risk flashing my phone so I'm kindof at a loss.
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I was the same way and to some degree still am. What I did was read and read. I read the WIKI several times realizing that a lot of it was written for someone more experienced than I. I also read how to restore a bricked device and return to stock a few times. I installed everything to return to stock on my PC so if I had a failure I already had my path back to working stock. I went to CM 2 just to get some experience. Then I went for it to CM 3 and Syndicate 1.0 and have been incredibly happy that I did.
Also know that terms like brick are used a lot but is then followed up with my phone will do this or that. In the definitions a brick is literally as good as a brick for a phone. The term is used way too much incorrectly so don't let that scare you. You will see when reading that there are only a few things to do if there is a problem. Frequently you will read to re download the files or use a different cable or USB port. If you keep reading you will become more comfortable with your ability to find the answers if there is a problem because there are people on here that seem to take great joy in helping people like you and I out and they have the experience and knowledge to help.
Trust me ... keep reading and searching and you will start to put the pieces together. Don't be discouraged. If you are really interested in this stuff, you WILL get there.
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Definitely agree with JohnCorleone, Randyshear has a ton of very good youtube vids. Helpful with rooting also with picking a ROM. Just to add my two-cents. The "epic cookbook" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967014...Helped me over and over again. alot of info, without alot of scavenging throughout threads. Good luck
There is no need to flash a rom right off the bat. Rooting with one click will give you a good jumping point. I would one click root to cw3 let it convert to ext4 then do a backup. Use titanium backup to remove all the junk bloatware.
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Hey guys, let me begin for apologizing if this is in the wrong place. I've been trying to read as much as I possibly can regarding these problems, and I'm stressed, and tired.
That out of the way, allow me to attempt to explain...
My Epic 4g seems to be "bricked" but only in the "soft way" (I've seen this term used before, and it seems to fit.)
It will still boot into Clockwork 2.5~ but no further, if I try to boot it farther, it will hang at the Samsung Screen and play the music.
Before anyone flames me, please, try to remember what it is like to have no idea what the hell is what after something weird happens.
I am running OSX Snowleopard, and have gotten Heimdall to run, but it will not recognize my epic when I put it into download mode. I feel like I am out of options, but I do have one more idea, and I wanted to run this past all of you ...
Since I cannot get my Heimdall to find my epic when I put it into download mode, would it be feasible for me to get a microsd reader (I found one at walgreens for 20 bucks), put an update.zip on it of like a stock eclair or froyo ( I hardly even care which version now, I just would like a working phone...) and run the update from sd via the still working clockwork recovery??
If this would work, it would rock, but I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere. I don't see why it would work, but then again I am not a wizard.
Any suggestions? Comments? Reassurance or Guidance?
If anyone could point me towards the best update.zip to try and push via the microsd reader, I would be eternally grateful. Or in general, if you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it...
Thank you so much in advance, to anyone willing to give me a shot or lend a hand...
blueoxide said:
Hey guys, let me begin for apologizing if this is in the wrong place. I've been trying to read as much as I possibly can regarding these problems, and I'm stressed, and tired.
That out of the way, allow me to attempt to explain...
My Epic 4g seems to be "bricked" but only in the "soft way" (I've seen this term used before, and it seems to fit.)
It will still boot into Clockwork 2.5~ but no further, if I try to boot it farther, it will hang at the Samsung Screen and play the music.
Before anyone flames me, please, try to remember what it is like to have no idea what the hell is what after something weird happens.
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I have NEVER tried this but it sounds like its worth a shot...i would try CM7 just to get something booting (and its a small file to DL).
But you should definitely "find" a copy of windows (google it *cough cough*) and use bootcamp (search in spotlight) to partition your hard drive and install it and have a mac with osx and windows lol i have xp but you can try newer...
its pretty easy (instructions are detailed) and you will never have to worry about "soft bricks" because you have odin
Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of bootcamping again, it's just such a damn pain, and so many of the "findable" windows on google are infected with godknows what. By CM7 do you mean cyanogen mod 7? I've never used cyanogen mod, if you could point me in a good direction I'd appreciate it.
Also, thank you for the civil reply... I have noticed a degree of distast for those who really don't know thier **** on many fourms, but I figure, everyone is starting at some point....
So should I look for a update.zip for CM7 and attempt to push it? Are there other considerations I should take into account? I really see no reason the microsd reader wouldn't work, and given that my phone is rooted and has clockwork operational on it (god willing it's as workable as it seems)....
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Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of bootcamping again, it's just such a damn pain, and so many of the "findable" windows on google are infected with godknows what. By CM7 do you mean cyanogen mod 7? I've never used cyanogen mod, if you could point me in a good direction I'd appreciate it.
Also, thank you for the civil reply... I have noticed a degree of distast for those who really don't know thier **** on many fourms, but I figure, everyone is starting at some point....
So should I look for a update.zip for CM7 and attempt to push it? Are there other considerations I should take into account? I really see no reason the microsd reader wouldn't work, and given that my phone is rooted and has clockwork operational on it (god willing it's as workable as it seems)....
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Your welcome, and HERE is CM7 (cyanogen mod 7). This is just to see if your phone still works (seems to me like it will) and after that you can root with clockwork 3.0.0.6 (if you want ext4). Be sure to have an EXT4 compatible rom when u boot into CWM. You will need to flash it after it converts your filesystem.
If you dont mind having a "dead" phone i suggest trying bootcamp...some files dont have "god knows what" and you will be able to odin EC05 prerooted. ALOT easier lol by dead i mean get no calls and sms, etc..
Just download file, put on sd card and flash...should work. I hope it works for you!
I'm going to give this a shot -- Got nothing to loose either way, and I've heard sweet things about cyanogen anyway. I'm trying to see all this as a learning experience. I was a bit freaked to try custom roms before, but at this point, why the hell not, right?
One question: what is this EXT4 business? I've seen it popping up, and I think I missed the boat. What would you suggest for a EXT4 compatible rom to use? ( Are you on an epic, by the way?)
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I'm going to give this a shot -- Got nothing to loose either way, and I've heard sweet things about cyanogen anyway. I'm trying to see all this as a learning experience. I was a bit freaked to try custom roms before, but at this point, why the hell not, right?
One question: what is this EXT4 business? I've seen it popping up, and I think I missed the boat. What would you suggest for a EXT4 compatible rom to use? ( Are you on an epic, by the way?)
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Lmao yea i have an epic. And ext4 is just a faster filesystem than RFS which is stock. Also most roms have journaling off which means you
cant just pull your battery and stuff like that because you will have corrupt data (most likely). Journaling enabled (like in stock with RFS)
will simply keep a journal of what the system does and in case of an improper shutdown (battery pull or phone falls and batt. pops out or
batt. drain to 0) when it turns on it will "recover" from where it left off. The only bad thing about this is that it writes to the nand (i
think) ALOT...maybe more than RFS but really it would kill your phone in 3-4 years and you probably wont keep it that long anyway lol
I usually run bonsai but you have to sign up to their forum for the download...i dont think im allowed to post a link. but ive heard Syndicate
rom frozen is also VERY good. And quick. But in short, if you want a speedy epic, choose EXT4 lol
Also you can try MIUI 1.3.5 rom..Its really cool. Sort of like best of iphone and android in one. Im actually one of the guys trying to port it now...
but im not a dev lol
Good luck!! and trust me, custom roms are fun. Especially when you become a flash-a-holic lol
Yeah, I get the feeling it's pretty addicting. I'm going to start by flashing CM7, as you said, just to make sure the thing isn't an expensive paperweight. Next I am either going to try Syndicate or try out the froyo stock w/out bloatware....Since I had it rooted months before the OTA happend, I'd been stuck on eclair. I may just be happy with a working phone, but as this point, i've tasted blood.
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Yeah, I get the feeling it's pretty addicting. I'm going to start by flashing CM7, as you said, just to make sure the thing isn't an expensive paperweight. Next I am either going to try Syndicate or try out the froyo stock w/out bloatware....Since I had it rooted months before the OTA happend, I'd been stuck on eclair. I may just be happy with a working phone, but as this point, i've tasted blood.
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Lol it happens to everyone xD
And let me know if it works...if not you will have to try the bootcamp way
Will do...
Thanks again for your help! I truly appreciate it!
As long as you're rooted with a working ClockWorkMod and can manually access your sd card, you can flash anything to your phone. You may want to make sure you format Data, Cache, And Dalvik Cache 3 times before flashing a rom though. Also, you may want to upgrade to ClockWorkMod 3. I have it referenced in my signature. It will need to be booted into first, while it converts to ext4, then a suitable rom like Syndicate Rom Frozen will have to be flashed.
Have you tried to fix it with an update.zip? My assumption is that this would not work for a number of reasons.
Your questions are not new, and have been asked more than once in their own threads as well as general question threads. GOOGLE search your question with "XDA" in the search bar. It's your friend, and it will answer your questions.
Just to recap:
1. CWM 2.5 or 3
2. Flash suitable rom
3. Shutdown properly, no reboot or battery pull!
4. Boot into CWM
5. Backup, and then immediately restore! This will re-engage Journaling and prevent future data corruption
6. Use Google! The more questions that are asked repeatedly, the more threads people will have to dig through to find answers.
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
I have been using google extensively, and it's just that many times I would get conflicting or not quite as clear as I was hoping answers, but yes I understand what you are trying to point out here. Syndicate seems like my best best, and as such I am going to need to get to CWM 3. I went to the thread, I am assuming I should use the new version (EB13) as opposed to the the DK28, correct? Since Syndicate is an EC05, I should go for the newer one?
Excuse me for my ignorance, again, we all start somewhere...
Thanks!
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Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
I have been using google extensively, and it's just that many times I would get conflicting or not quite as clear as I was hoping answers, but yes I understand what you are trying to point out here. Syndicate seems like my best best, and as such I am going to need to get to CWM 3. I went to the thread, I am assuming I should use the new version (EB13) as opposed to the the DK28, correct? Since Syndicate is an EC05, I should go for the newer one?
Excuse me for my ignorance, again, we all start somewhere...
Thanks!
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I can also recommend Bonsai and Midnight as fantastic roms. I use them all, but Syndicate is my current. Syndicate EB13 is the one you want. EC05 didn't change the firmware, it only modified the modem. I've tested EB13 as well as EC05 with Syndicate, switching back and forth, with no visible problems. If your phone is on EB13 or EC05, then Syndicate Frozen 1.1 should work nicely, it's linked in my signature.
Yeah, unfortunatly it was stuck on DK18 for a varitety of reasons.... I hope that doesn't change anything...
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Yeah, unfortunatly it was stuck on DK18 for a varitety of reasons.... I hope that doesn't change anything...
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If you're able to use Odin on your computer, just use my CWM Odin link. You'll find EB13 pre-rooted with CWM 3 and you can flash that straight from the computer. Just be sure you have a Rom on your SD card first so it's ready to install from the recovery menu.
Odin is not a possibility right now, however, I just got CM7 to boot. And although it seems to have no service (or it could be because airplane mode toggles on and off faster than I can blink) it seems to be at least functional in a baseline way. I'm going to try to use one of the CWM backups I saved on my computer to see if that works... Thanks for your help!
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Odin is not a possibility right now, however, I just got CM7 to boot. And although it seems to have no service (or it could be because airplane mode toggles on and off faster than I can blink) it seems to be at least functional in a baseline way. I'm going to try to use one of the CWM backups I saved on my computer to see if that works... Thanks for your help!
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Good luck to you! Hopefully you read the following:
What does NOT work in CM7 for Epic::
GPS
Camera
Multimedia Messaging
Bluetooth In-Call (Hands-Free Profile)
WiMax 4G (This is absolute LAST priority, DON'T ASK ABOUT IT)
I don't develop personally, but I make it a habit to try and understand what's going on, and as such I rearrange and personalize ROMs to my liking, and subsequently carefully test them to maximize performance and battery. I like to share my understanding and insight to help alleviate the task from developers who already do so much work in an effort to pay them back!
Yes, I am aware of the current limitations of this incarnation of CM7, it seems as though right now, cell coverage radio is going a bit insane (toggle rapidly airplane mode) with my setup. I am currenly looking into how to get CW3 on it.
Hey I managed to gain access to a windows laptop, installed odin on it, and attempted to reflash with what I imagine are the stock files, but it's failed twice...
Which files should I be using? My phone WAS on DK18, but all i'm looking for now is to get it working in a stock way, then I can venture out again....
Any help?
Edit: Odin said it failed, but it seems like some stuff took, it will boot to the samsung screen, do the sprint yellow boxy thing with music, go to the glowing S, it'll pulsate for a while, then it goes to a black screen sat for a good while., Now when I reboot, it hangs at the first samsung screen again..
Does it look like I just used the wrong files, or was it a usb issue?
I'm a bit perplexed...
I'm a noob as well. You need to watch qbking77 on you tube. He goes through the exact steps and exactly what files to use if using odin in one of his videos. The links are all there as well. I have hade my epic a week and have done about everything in his videos to help me understand what I am doing.
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http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?user=qbking77&v=YQ2g6J1JgjU&view=videos
That is a link to the video.
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