Is there anything like "Connect when needed" for mobile data? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm wondering if there is any software or patch or something that can cause the mobile data to turn on when it's needed,
for example, if i want to go the facebook application i need to turn the mobile data on, why can't it be automatically?
once a software requires internet and no wifi around turn on the mobile data automatically...

Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> untick "Enable always-on mobile data"

jkoljo said:
Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> untick "Enable always-on mobile data"
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Still won't do the trick... as i understand this setting only works for the syncing actions and push mail and stuff... correct me if i'm wrong.

Okay, then you should try "Juice defender", get that from market. It can control your data connection.

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Anyone can answer about data connection?

When I read the HTC Desire user manual, it said that I need to turn on the "Data Connection" setting to have internet connection.
Well, this is understandable ... but, does it has automatic connection on demand?
On Windows Mobile, I dont have to specifically turn on data connection. Whenever an app is trying to reach the internet, it will turn on the data connection automatically.
And of course, it will turn-off the data connection automatically as well, when there is no internet network activity.
Does this also the same in Android?
It should turn on automaticly when you try to use online services...
But you can turn it on in Wireless & Network
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
By default MENU -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network was off on my device, meaning it would not connect to internet via 3G (I could still make/receive calls). However, I chose to use WiFi for set-up when I first started the phone, so maybe that's why.
Anyway, I guess that is the setting they are talking about.
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
Zappza said:
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
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gogol said:
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
pantera70 said:
NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
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I do remember the old days of the HTC Hero which had the option of background data usage. I think that was more to do with the version of Android than anything else. I recently had the Nexus One and on the new 2.1 version of Android, you can either switch data on or off, no automated connections on data usage.
When the phone is sleeping (screen off) nearly everything is powered down anyway, even if the data connection is 'on'. Apps will wake the device (an power up radios as required) to do their updates when they need to.
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So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
Ok then
I think it has different meaning compared to the Windows Mobile.
In the COMM MANAGER, there is "Data Connection" toggle which normally is OFF. And this does not mean that the device cannot use 3G data connection.
While on Android, its data connection toggle setting means to enable or disable 3G data connection completely.
I think that is the difference, if we look from Windows Mobile point of view.
Thanks.
Zappza said:
The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
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Turning the data connection on or off

Hi,
If I read the HTC Desire manual page 128:
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[B][U]Turning the data connection on or off[/U][/B]
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Press HOME > MENU and then tap Settings > Wireless & networks.
Select the Mobile network check box to turn on the data connection; clear the check box
to turn off the data connection.
We can simply check/uncheck the above option to turn on or off the data connection.
Did you get any problem for turning it back on (from off) ???
Because I read the old HTC Hero (which has this option as well) has problem with this.
When you turn off data, and turn it on again, the phone cannot use data connection unless you soft-reboot.
Reference:
http://code.google.com/p/apndroid/issues/detail?id=33#c10
No probs with mine
I've used this method since last Saturday, saves so much battery on my Desire and when I want the net, I can turn it back on easily enough or if at home just use Wi-Fi.
No problems getting it to turn back on again.
Does this mean I'll have to manually turn data off if I want to use wifi?
Reason why I ask is because I checked my net counter and all my data has come from the data (3G) portion of my phone whilst nothing via wifi.
Probably me being a bit naive as I thought once wifi was on the phone would know to use that automatically as opposed to 3G...
EDIT: Just had a look on my phone and under settings --> wireless and network --> mobile network (uses phone for data connection when wi-fi unavailable) is checked...so would I be correct in assuming that when wi-fi is available data won't be used??
and in Mobile Network Settings --> enable always-on mobile data (uses more power on some mobile networks) is checked (could this be the culprit?)...
Thanks for your feedback, that is certainly a good news.
Btw, does HTC provide a small widget to toggle this easily?
Or you must go through the settings -> Wireless Network -> ... ?
choccy31 said:
I've used this method since last Saturday, saves so much battery on my Desire and when I want the net, I can turn it back on easily enough or if at home just use Wi-Fi.
No problems getting it to turn back on again.
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there is a widget you can add on your screen to do this (and others) goto widgets then scroll to settings hit the arrow on the right and you get several icons you can drop
airplane mode
bluetooth
gps
mobile network (data)
wifi
Press and hold the power button, it's an option on the quick list.

[Q] Is there a way to disable data?

I just bought the Defy for my younger sister and was just wondering if there is a way to turn off the data since I only want her on wi-fi. I know there's apps out there like extended control but is there anything I can change in the settings? I did some searching but found nothing on the forum if I missed it can you guys point me the right direction? Thanks a bunch!
When in Europe I use an app called APNdroid from the market. It kills edge & 3G but leaves wifi and voice/text running. If you want to kill EVERYTHING but wifi, hit airplane mode then wifi.
I suppose it depends on your service provider, but if you set up nonsense information in your APN (i.e. it can't find a server) then it won't be able to access 3G data. I've set up 2 APNs on my phone, one to allow and one to turn it 'off'. Works like a charm.
Well, for me, anyhow.
+1 for APN renaming.
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Go to market, find this--> APNdroid
Install it & put on desktop.
This will help stop the Defy from using GPRS.
Edmond.
there are dialog in settings that allow to disable all mobile data transfers over gsm/umts networks
Settings > Data Manager > Data Delivery > All mobile Data (untick)
sarge78 said:
Settings > Data Manager > Data Delivery > All mobile Data (untick)
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My T-Mo USA phone does not have that choice.
scrannel said:
My T-Mo USA phone does not have that choice.
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Yeah I looked for that too but didn't find it so I'm just using the app. Thanks for all the help!
You can use the app"Droidwall",you can disable 2G,3G, and use only WIFI
You can try a battery saving app called "juicedefender".
The original function of it is turning off data when the screen is off, but you can use its widget to turn off data completely.

[Q] How to disable 3G Connection

Hi,
I'd like to permantently disable 3G data connection. It's not included in my mobile pass. I've switched it off in the settings, but I don't know how, it's turned on again.
So I'm looking for a little application that can disable 3G and check if it's still disable and stay disabled.
Thx for your answer in advance.
Get 3G Watchdog and set an option to disable Mobile Data when more than 1KB has been used.
sybux said:
Hi,
I'd like to permantently disable 3G data connection. It's not included in my mobile pass. I've switched it off in the settings, but I don't know how, it's turned on again.
So I'm looking for a little application that can disable 3G and check if it's still disable and stay disabled.
Thx for your answer in advance.
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just go into mobile networks and set up a new apn. call it new, and access point name as new. then save it. then just select it and you will get no mobile data at all as your phone will have nothing to connect to. if you need to get your mobile data again just select the apn your phone was orginally on

Issues with restricting background app data (option isn't there?)

Im running OxygenOS 3.2.7 and when i go to Settings > Data Usage > Twitter ( under cellular data in this case), there is no option to restrict background data as there is supposed to be in stock Android, is this a feature they took out or something? Also when I'm on the Data Usage page, and go to Network restrictions in the top right menu, it only shows a list of metered WiFi networks.
I can't really remember as its been sometime since I switched to N but there were options to disable background cellular data in OOS 3.2.6 under the same settings.
Also the cellular networks settings have moved to the main settings page under "More" settings of Wireless and Settings.
interframe said:
Im running OxygenOS 3.2.7 and when i go to Settings > Data Usage > Twitter ( under cellular data in this case), there is no option to restrict background data as there is supposed to be in stock Android, is this a feature they took out or something? Also when I'm on the Data Usage page, and go to Network restrictions in the top right menu, it only shows a list of metered WiFi networks.
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This option is under SETTINGS>DATA USAGE. If you click an app there, you get the option to block background data.
Edit: I am also on OOS 3.2.7 and I get this option both on mobile data and wifi.

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