i have searched but havent found what i feel that i am looking for. i got a replacement DInc about a month with no issues till about 10-12 days ago. I have started getting constant reboots running the nightly cm7 ROMS. decided to go back to try RC1 but getting them on it as well. i am even getting this running a bare ROM (ROM & GAPPS only installed) yet still get reboots but less often i will admit. the more of my settings/apps that are added back....the more reboots i get. occasionally i will get stretches that are great reliability but rarely. anyone else getting this? i am sincerely beginning to feel that i may have gotten a bad replacement device.
thanks in advance all.
make sure your cpu is set to 998 or if you wish to overclock it then make sure the wifi is set to never sleep.
setcpu is usually never higher than 1036 (occasionally 1075) cause havent had much need to OC the DInc. to be curious what does overclock and wifi sleep have to do with each other. these issue exist even with WiFi off, running on mobile network.
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So I hve been going nuts trying to figure out why my phone keeps rebooting. I'm in another country so getting a replacement isn't an option for me and it seems it hasn't helped some people anyways (After a while it comes back).
THe only constant I see is that the CPU usage after maybe 30 seconds after the phone comes on stays at 95-100% all the time. Only thing that makes sense is that the phone is shutting itself down before it melts down.
This kinda makes sense since it seems the more I try to do the more random the reboots become.....and battery life is beyond horrible. I did the steps to increase battery life and battery life is making this phone virtually unusable off AC power (EXample: Leaving from my Brother in laws apartment and travelling 10 floors down to my car results in 89% battery left. Phone is dead within the hour if i use it and 3 or 4 if leave it idling.
I tried killing all the tasks that te phone starts up with but nothing change the CPU usage. I thought maybe it was the kernel but I flashed the latest one from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...RI+version+PRL [the undervolted version]. Not sure if that would help (THe info in this forums is so scattered and disorganized it makes my head spin.....and I'm a techie).
Also try flashing the combo package of the latest radio, PRI, NV etc and that doesn't work also....CPU usage is still through the roof.
I just got this a few days ago. I'm currently on:
HBoot 2.10 [s-off]
H/W 0004
Basband 2.15.00.11.19 [I was on this before I was rooted]
Kernel version 2.6.32.27-SBC-net-4.2.2-less-havs [email protected] #19 [Just flashed] ROM myn's Warm TwoPointTwo 9RLS 4)
Software: 3.3-.651.3
PRI Version: 1.90_0003
PRL Version: 60662
Can I get some help from people smarter then me. I'm at the end of my rope and I'm not convinced a handset swap is going to fix my issue esp. since this was BNIB straight from Sprint and other people who've had this issue and had a new phone seem to somehow have it later.
If i leave it alone it will reboot on its own eventually. If i switch from airport to turning on the cell data, reboot, turning on wifi......reboot, toggling 4g.......reboot, After a few web page searches......reboot, open up an application.....reboot.
This isn't temperature related as far as I can tell.....The app I have monitoring temp has seen this happen at 25 degrees and sometimes less.
PLEASE HELP
Ok.. firs tthings first..
when your phone is unstable and rebooting, dont use an undervolt kernel. Undervolt kernels provide less power to the CPU at set frequencies.
In my case, I discovered undervolting CAUSED reboots, because my phone couldnt handle anything under 950mv... there is such a range in the quality of the components that theres no way to always say yes, undervolting this much will work with every phone.
so 1: Use stock kernel ( for whatever rom your using.. also use a well established rom, not one of the 'hey, last night i got bored and made this' ones.. it may work, but it may be so buggy its what is causing your crash )
2: do a fresh install. run the phone with 0 apps added, see if it has the same issue. If it does, may be the phone itself. If it doesnt, its one of your apps.. install one at a time, and see if it improves.
and you made two posts why?
Didn't know they would move it. Posted in the wrong forum and they moved it as well. lOL. My bad.
I've been on a stock kernel up until I started trying different kernels. I will try the other one then.
My CPU usage is the problem I think. I have both memoryusage and system monitor and both report the same thing.....95-100% usage constantly. If I could resolve that then maybe my phone would work properly.
Didn't know they would move it. Posted in the wrong forum and they moved it as well. lOL. My bad.
I've been on a stock kernel up until I started trying different kernels. I will try the other one then.
My CPU usage is the problem I think. I have both memoryusage and system monitor and both report the same thing.....95-100% usage constantly. If I could resolve that then maybe my phone would work properly.
I'm a total n00b to the rooting scene - going on almost a week with my rooted DInc - so apologies if this has been addressed (I can't find where its really been addressed definitively). Since I rooted (and only since), I'm occasionally having random reboots while my phone is sitting inactive on my desk. I've only used Sense ROMs (Virtuous, WarmZ, Nil's Business), and they all seem to have it. I have Nil's on now (love it so far!), and for two days, I thought the issue had gone away, but today it has rebooted twice in short order (about 30 minutes apart).
Some things I've observed about this:
- I haven't had it reboot yet while I was using my phone - only while sitting inactive on my desk at work.
- I do have pretty poor signal strength in my office - at rest, it usually shows just a bar, if that.
- The wifi connection I have available is also wonky (router issue, I think); I don't use it (or even have it remembered) because it will connect, but continuously drops and reconnects over and over (not a phone specific issue, used to happen to my BB Curve as well).
This doesn't rise anywhere close to a dealbreaker for me, as it reboots quickly and everything seems to return to normal, but I wanted to ask if anyone had a suggestion to remedy the problem.
Could be a lot of different things. Are you also using custom kernels? Some people will get random reboots when they overclock their processor, but since you say it happens when the device is idle, that sounds unlikely. There was a generation of GB kernels that would cause random reboots if the wi-fi policy allowed the wi-fi to sleep. Switching the wi-fi sleep policy to "never" was the workaround for these, but you are using Froyo and I'm not sure if this same bug ever affected any Froyo kernels.
I know when I ran lou's kernel (don't remember which version) I had a few massive lag moments where the phone was insanely slow and also a couple of random reboots (once was idle and screen off, other was during a phone call).
I didn't continue to run it for those reasons, actually only ran it for 2 days.
You may have better luck just flashing a different kernel with the same ROM you're on, I've had good luck with chad's sense incredikernel (25plusv) - that is, if you're looking for a suggestion for a kernel to flash
Run fix permissions in ROM Manager too.
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I don't know if this possible but I really like to find out if there is something causing the SOD that we can actually do something about(as in it isn't hardware causing it). I get SOD's on some repack kernels but not on others. When I get it has quite frequently. I am not running setcpu nor do I have any other software controlling the cpu. I have however been using juice defender. I like the product. I am going to remove it and flash a repack kernel that I know gives me SOD's and see if something in the power saving on the JD might be contributing to it. I would like to hear from others that have this issue and see if you are running anything like setcpu or JD.
I've been thinking of something. I don't have sod at all. For those that do have sod how good is your phone at overclocking? Meaning can it run stable at like 1.6 or where does it freeze at?
I'm wondering if its something to do with the difference of processors.
If anyone needs any help with the epic touch hit me up on Gtalk @musclehead84
I dont really overclock anymore but when i used to, my phone froze at 1.6. This was back when i was on calk eg30 rom. Idk what would now if i tried again
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I haven't oc'd mine so I am not sure what it is capable of. Tomorrow I will disable the JD and flash a repack and see if that has any effect. It is frustrating because I love the repack rom's. For now I use mobile odin to flash a repack and boot to recovery if I want to nandroid then flash the stock kernel back again.
I had it until I updated modem, and when I say had it I mean right after flashing an ics rom, and every time after the phone sat with screen off for more then a minute, can run at 1.6 no problem, don't see a point though
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I had it until I updated modem, and when I say had it I mean right after flashing an ics rom, and every time after the phone sat with screen off for more then a minute, can run at 1.6 no problem, don't see a point though
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I was just curious because on the original epic I had sod on some kernels and that phones processor was terrible. It froze when I tried to overclock it. The next one I got I wad able to overclock and I never had sod. Just seeing if phones with not being able to overclock might have an issue right now.
If anyone needs any help with the epic touch hit me up on Gtalk @musclehead84
Are you using SetCPU? If so, don't fix screen off at 200-500.
Yeah we really meed to figure out what the heck is going on. For the last few days i've been trying to figure out why i've been having SoD. Im on blazer ROM and ive found out that if I don't flash a new kernel i'm fine. But as soon as I flash rouge 1.4.1 or 1.4.0 I get an onslaught of SoD. Things ive tries to fix it are:
-Installing set CPU and raising the voltage and changing gov. to on demand.
-taking all the init.d scripts out of the blazer ROM zip before flashing.
-I find that when the phone is on the charger it never gets SoD
That last point leads me to believe that it has something to do with deep sleep. Because when the phone Is plugged in it isnt allowed into deep sleep mode and idles at 200Mhz. Ill be looking into this more tonight. If anyone would like to work with me i'm always in the e4gt ics dev channel on freenode.
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Do you run Juice Defender or any other power saving app? I am on an ICS rom and when I flash the repack, almost everytime I power off the screen I get an SOD. I am getting ready to disable JD and flash the repack and see if that makes a difference.
UPDATE: I disabled juice defender and flashed the repack. Have gone for 40 minutes without an sod. I am going to enable the jd but change several of the settings to see if that will allow me to run it with the repack and not get frequent sod's
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Do you run Juice Defender or any other power saving app? I am on an ICS rom and when I flash the repack, almost everytime I power off the screen I get an SOD. I am getting ready to disable JD and flash the repack and see if that makes a difference.
UPDATE: I disabled juice defender and flashed the repack. Have gone for 40 minutes without an sod. I am going to enable the jd but change several of the settings to see if that will allow me to run it with the repack and not get frequent sod's
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you know....oddly enough I did install juice defender a few days ago....then flashed the 1.4.0 kernel and thats when everything started.....BUT ive since reflashed the rom a million times without re installing JD and i still get SoD with the 1.4.0 kernel
If you continue to not get Sleep of deaths...will you try flashing 1.4.1 or 1.4.0?
Just to clarify, does the SOD issue include texts/calls not going thru whatsoever while phone sleeping on or off charger for more than ten minutes? I get this with any ICS up to 06, when people call me it goes to VM directly, texts go to sprint limbo. Or, do these leaks just horribly handle low signal areas? I was on stock 85 prl, and signal was about 0-1 bar sprint and force roamed on 1xrtt for 2-3 bars... since this screwed me on a couple important calls I reverted to EL29 and flashed 111115 PRL... anyone have these issues with ICS, or is it just my **** reception and network issues?
Oh, and I SWEAR... no conspiracy theory... but anyone notice pretty much all samsung leaks have issues that are magically fixed for final release? Epic froyo, GB, now ICS on the Epic Touch... just sayin... its like they dont want us daily driving these... just use em enough to beta test (really this site should be renamed XDA Beta Testers)?
The issue you are talking about sounds more like the loss of service bug that has plagued some of these phones. the sleep of death is when the screen turns off and then you can't get the phone to come back on with out holding the power button for 10 seconds or pulling the battery. I am still doing fine. I enabled juice defender but selected advanced settings and disabled jd from controlling the auto sync. I set the controls options to default. So far I haven't had an sod. I will see if I can flash those repacks but I am not sure if it will work right since I am on an ICS rom.
SoD almost certainly involves the cpu going into deep sleep and not coming out. I have never experienced this issue on the E4gT on any rom/kernel combo, but I dealt with the issue extensively on the nook color it it's early days. I can definitively say that because a large number of users are using the repacked kernels and are not having SoD issues, then it is 100% NOT repacked kernel related. SoD is caused by voltage issues or cpu step switching problems. The repacked kernels are identical in these regards across all users, therefore the repacked kernels are not causing the SoD issues.
I've had the SoD a few times on FC05 and FC06 - I'm in the process of downloading FC07 right now. It doesn't happen often (3, maybe 4 times in a few days) and I cannot pinpoint any actions preceding it. I no longer have Juice Defender installed. It's odd though, I've also had problems receiving Kik messages after a reboot. My girlfriend sent me a few messages 6 hours ago that I didn't get until I opened the app, then it's back to normal. This is a pretty regular problem. It's like I have to kick start the app before it starts. But over that 6 hours I streamed Pandora just fine and Gmail has been syncing as normal.
It is a puzzling issue. I also don't think the repack kernels acutally cause it to happen but there is something about the issue that causes it to happen frequently when using a repack. I can go back to any of the stock kernels and it works fine even with juice defender running. That is why I thought perhaps it was some app like juice defender that was causing it but people still have the issue without juice defender. Fortunately for me it seems the fix was to disable juice defender. Unfortunately for my battery though.
Well so far it seems that ive found my solution. All i did was grab the 1 click Odin to Stock Rooted EL29 and wiped everything. I wiped internal storage and flashed back to rooted stock with odin. Then i Odin'd a kernel and flashed back to blazer rom and then had to re odin the rouge kernel that was originally giving me issues. So far all is well. I suggest giving it a shot
Okay does any one have this same problem or am i just doing something wrong?
Every time i let my kindle sit with the screen off after about 30 minutes or so, and I assume it keeps going and getting stuck in sleep mode but the only way for me to get it turned back on is to do the whole power button for 20 seconds and then reboot. Am I not being patient enough with it or is there some trick to getting the screen back on that i haven't found yet? Because I've tried multiple different things and there isn't a disable sleep mode option in my rom just the option to extend the time, even though its pretty much useless. But can anyone help me with this?
what rom are you on?
Right now I'm on Hell Fire 1.1 but last week i was running CM9 Reloaded and it did the same exact thing.
I was going to give a long speech about how people need to READ before installing any new roms but considering the Hellfire thread doesn't list what works and what doesn't, I guess it's not entirely your fault
It's called "sleep of death" (SOD). Some ICS roms have problems with it and some don't. The same could be said about certain individual devices. You could boost your minimum CPU usage to 600Mhz or more, or try a different rom. Though, it should be noted that changing your CPU settings will affect battery life.
okay that makes sense i had no idea that most of the new roms have problems with it. but I'll probably try to up the min cpu usage i suppose the difference between 600 MHz and 300 MHz isn't going to be a true killer for the amount i use it but which rom or roms would you recommend? That don't have this problem I'd really like to try barebones but every time i try to flash it my Kindle goes crazy so i gave up on trying with it.
I've had this E4gt for a few days now. First thing I did was root it with the FI27 Odin one click method, then install Agats source 6.5 kernel. Had some random reboots that I shrugged off as my phone not liking any undervolting. But it still does it, even under _dan's lightweight v0.2 rom
It isn't completely random though. Most of the reboots are when I'm trying to wake up the phone after letting it sit idle. Other times it'll reboot while it's sleeping idle. it has NEVER rebooted during use (I ran pandora/poweramp for 8 hours no problem)
It also occurs under most governor settings.
It almost seems that for whatever reason, idling at 200mv is causing the phone to crash and reboot.
the only overclock utility I use is System Tuner Pro, however I don't know if this could be the cause.
Only other option I can see is unroot/flash stock FI27 and see what happens, but I really don't want to go through the hassle, especially having to get another effing phone (since assurion can't be bothered to ever send a proper working phone)
bit of info on my phone I guess
Rooted it from bone stock factory FI27 using Odin FI27 One click rooting (success on first try)
Agats source 6.5 kernel
_dan's Lightweight v0.2 rom
Ktoonservative kernel (however it seems every kernel does this)
Scheduler set to noop
no oc/uv settings currently
I use System Tuner Pro to adjust clocks/governor settings, etc however, I haven't done many tweaks besides my OOM settings.
Stock rooted with Agat's source 6.5 was causing reboots as well, under the same conditions (deep sleep reboots, and waking from deep sleep)
m4xwellmurd3r said:
I've had this E4gt for a few days now. First thing I did was root it with the FI27 Odin one click method, then install Agats source 6.5 kernel. Had some random reboots that I shrugged off as my phone not liking any undervolting. But it still does it, even under _dan's lightweight v0.2 rom
It isn't completely random though. Most of the reboots are when I'm trying to wake up the phone after letting it sit idle. Other times it'll reboot while it's sleeping idle. it has NEVER rebooted during use (I ran pandora/poweramp for 8 hours no problem)
It also occurs under most governor settings.
It almost seems that for whatever reason, idling at 200mv is causing the phone to crash and reboot.
the only overclock utility I use is System Tuner Pro, however I don't know if this could be the cause.
Only other option I can see is unroot/flash stock FI27 and see what happens, but I really don't want to go through the hassle, especially having to get another effing phone (since assurion can't be bothered to ever send a proper working phone)
bit of info on my phone I guess
Rooted it from bone stock factory FI27 using Odin FI27 One click rooting (success on first try)
Agats source 6.5 kernel
_dan's Lightweight v0.2 rom
Ktoonservative kernel (however it seems every kernel does this)
Scheduler set to noop
no oc/uv settings currently
I use System Tuner Pro to adjust clocks/governor settings, etc however, I haven't done many tweaks besides my OOM settings.
Stock rooted with Agat's source 6.5 was causing reboots as well, under the same conditions (deep sleep reboots, and waking from deep sleep)
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Is the phone new or did you acquire it used? I had random reboot issues...tried numerous software fixes (new ROM, new kernel, uninstalling apps). Finally found the problem...a faulty power button. The solution for me was to replace the phone under warranty.
Its an assurion refer. According to the phones lifetime stats however it wasnt used for more than a week or so in august.
Also its not the power button. I watched it lock up and reboot earlier today
I'm almost thinking I should call asurion and tell them they sent me another effed uup phone and demand a nib phone. But that means unrooting this one and I'm not sure how big of a pain that will be
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Ktoon... gov gave me some odd results too, try pegasusq and don't under volt until you have established a stable setup.
Honestly though try a different rom, FI27 seemed buggy to me but FI03 was alright. If you want to try Jellybean then give Codename a try. Its been rock solid.
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Ktoon... gov gave me some odd results too, try pegasusq and don't under volt until you have established a stable setup.
Honestly though try a different rom, FI27 seemed buggy to me but FI03 was alright. If you want to try Jellybean then give Codename a try. Its been rock solid.
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Interesting that you would mention ktoonservitive!
My setup has been always dead stable. But....
I've had a few random reboots when on calls lately and have been running that (ktoon..) for a little while now.
I'll have to switch that out and see what happens.
Well im currebtly running the latest version of recaulk so ill report back with my results if i gwt any reboots.
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Well im currebtly running the latest version of recaulk so ill report back with my results if i gwt any reboots.
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After running Re-Caulk all night, I've come to the conclusion that FI27 was the culprit.
Ktoon probably wasn't helping, as I was running it quite often.
I'm using whatever kernel comes with re-caulk, min at 100mhz, max at 1400mhz, -25mv. Battery life is better than before (though, with my 3800mah battery, its already insane)
buttery smooth goodness too
Bit of an update since I made this thread.
Running smartbench 2011 I was getting abysmall productivity scores, and it seemed overall my scores were AWFUL no matter what in any benchmark (overclocking to 1.5 would barely get the almost to baseline numbers)
I called asurion and told them I was having reboot issues with the phone etc, they sent me another refurb today.
Scores are exactly as they should be now. Productivity scores in smartbench 2011 went from 2500-2800 to 4000+
I think the CPU on my first e4gt had a problem with the processor, which is why deep sleeping was crashing it.
I do realize benchmark scores mean nothing in terms of real world performance, but when there's a known baseline number for a particular phone, and your phone is struggling to even get close to that baseline (even with a maximum overclock) there is clearly something wrong with it.