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So before everyone yells because of my inability to search the forum, please understand that not only have i searched this forum, but just about every other one. And if someone finds a thread with an answer to my question than i will admit defeat and have myself stoned and crucified.
I will greatly appreciate anyone's and everyone's help.
History in cliffnotes
Rooted with Unrevoked about a month ago, since then been running CM 6.
Have been happy with just using stock CM 6 and nothing else, haven't flashed any other kernels, radios, or for that matter roms.
Have always had problems with random reboots but didn't care.
Last night my phone appeared to have the desire to random reboot, and on start up got into a boot loop, just HTC splash boot loop. I can get into bootloader but if i try to go to recovery it is just more boot loops.
I'm running mac OS X however i eventually just tried running RUU on my roommates computer but to no avail, mostly, i think, because my phone can't boot into a state where its recognized by the program or sync, etc...
The real problem
As of now i've gone as far as basically completely unrooting, using a pc36img that i found through you guys here
So if you guys have any ideas, at this point, i'm completely willing to try them because, this was completely random that it happened, and i really am at a complete loss as to what to do besides buy a new phone.
i love you all in a masculine plutonic way. thanks.
well you could always re-root with unrevoked. all it needs is bootloader mode to root it and then once its done, flash a rooted rom on it, then proceed to unroot.
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btw, i am a mac user too and unrevoked works great. if it fails, run it again. and no need to use an ruu, look up a thread in our development section titled shpped roms and they have pc36img versions of the ruu. you will be able to root with your mac and unroot all on the device. unrevoked has an s-on zip on their web page. to unroot it, flash the s-on zip then run the pc36img zip from the base of your sd card. thats all!
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YOU CAN ALWAYS FLASH A RECOVERY VIA BOOTLOADER ALSO AND FLASH A ROM. LET ME KNOW WHICH RECOVERY YOU PREFFER, I GOT BOTH CLOCKWORKMOD AND RA.
EDIT#3: LOL, Sorry i didnt see that you mentioned a pc36img to unroot.
why dont you just download download the recovery img of amon_ra 2.2.1 in pc36img format and run it from boot loader. done, problem solved.
if that doesnt work download caukulins format all zip and run it and them reload your recovery and rom
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why dont you just download download the recovery img of amon_ra 2.2.1 in pc36img format and run it from boot loader. done, problem solved.
if that doesnt work download caukulins format all zip and run it and them reload your recovery and rom
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I am not trying to thread jack, but i too am having the same problem. I am not a noob at flashing and I am stuck at the white Evo screen and it just reboots when I click on recovery from the boot loader.
I too have flashed the recovery image from amen ra and it flashed ok, but each time I reboot and try to get into recovery it just reboots, so that did not fix getting into recovery.
The problem with the above suggestion is that you need to be able to boot into a recovery to use Caukulins format all zip, and if you can't get into recovery it does no good.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let the both of us know!
Well since you can't get into recovery, we suggested to flash a recovery in pc36img.zip format in bootloader mode.
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paulieb81 said:
I am not trying to thread jack, but i too am having the same problem. I am not a noob at flashing and I am stuck at the white Evo screen and it just reboots when I click on recovery from the boot loader.
I too have flashed the recovery image from amen ra and it flashed ok, but each time I reboot and try to get into recovery it just reboots, so that did not fix getting into recovery.
The problem with the above suggestion is that you need to be able to boot into a recovery to use Caukulins format all zip, and if you can't get into recovery it does no good.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let the both of us know!
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thats why i said flash a recovery in pc36img format first. more specifically this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=483320&d=1294435056
rename to pc36img.zip and boot into bootloader
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thats why i said flash a recovery in pc36img format first. more specifically this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=483320&d=1294435056
rename to pc36img.zip and boot into bootloader
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If you read my message you will see that I DID flash a recovery, that same one you just linked, and it flashed ok, but when i restart and choose to enter the recovery the phone just reboots again!
Did you solve this?
Yes I did, I went back to the store and had them replace the phone. I could not get it to boot into recovery for some reason.
I dont know what causes this, but this is like the 10th person on a CM rom that's had this exact scenario. Its weird how it happens out of the blue, and then RUU and pc36img just don't work. Very strange. I was just trying to help a guy the other day in this exact scenario. Nothing would get him out of the splash screen. No RUU, PC36IMG of recovery OR a factory ROM, fastboot RUU didn't work. Nothing. Just bricked at the bootloader somehow. I always thought if you could get to the bootloader then you could recovery, but lately there have been quite a few of this exact scenario, and each one was on the same rom. I would love to know what causes this, when the phone is just sitting there, and then goes into a bootloop out of the blue, and then this is the result. It's leaving me frightened to run CM, seriously. What on earth could be causing this type of thing?
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heppened to me too and since then ive seen at least 5 cases of this exact same problem from cm7 roms. so far no one has found a way to fix it that has been posted here. we have all had to have our phones replaced.
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heppened to me too and since then ive seen at least 5 cases of this exact same problem from cm7 roms. so far no one has found a way to fix it that has been posted here. we have all had to have our phones replaced.
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Did they give you any problems about s-off being visible in the bootloader when you got your phone replaced? I'm to that point of taking it back with the EXACT same problem but I didn't know if it was an issue. (or is there any trick to get s-on back without being able to load into recovery i.e. a fastboot command?)
i was worried about the s-off as well because i also was unable to change that. all i could find for that was the s-on tool but since u cant actually flash anything, had to leave it s-off. i even tried a battery pull during the radio update on a pc36img so that they wouldnt be able to get to bootloader but i couldnt even brick it. i live more than 50 miles from a sprint store so they didnt make me drive to a sprint store. they sent me a replacement and i mailed my evo back. on the paperwork for the new phone they said i could still be charged 75 dollars for a recoverable phone and 125 for an unrecoverable phone. it was probably 2 weeks ago or so when i sent my old broken evo back and i havent been billed yet so i dont know what if anything they will charge. when i talked to the sprint tech on the phone i told him it was rooted because i knew they would see the s-off and i didnt want to get screwed when i sent them my broken phone and they said "u rooted, ur problem" but he said he would still replace it and he did.
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I dont know what causes this, but this is like the 10th person on a CM rom that's had this exact scenario. Its weird how it happens out of the blue, and then RUU and pc36img just don't work. Very strange. I was just trying to help a guy the other day in this exact scenario. Nothing would get him out of the splash screen. No RUU, PC36IMG of recovery OR a factory ROM, fastboot RUU didn't work. Nothing. Just bricked at the bootloader somehow. I always thought if you could get to the bootloader then you could recovery, but lately there have been quite a few of this exact scenario, and each one was on the same rom. I would love to know what causes this, when the phone is just sitting there, and then goes into a bootloop out of the blue, and then this is the result. It's leaving me frightened to run CM, seriously. What on earth could be causing this type of thing?
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I'm in the same boat buckley. I don't get it?! I did run cm for a couple days but I was always looking at my phone wondering if something was going to happen. Almost gave myself a panic attack so I just went back to sense, lol.
ChacocII said:
heppened to me too and since then ive seen at least 5 cases of this exact same problem from cm7 roms. so far no one has found a way to fix it that has been posted here. we have all had to have our phones replaced.
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And I just wanted to say, that although you've seen 5, and I've seen around 10, and that does suck, that the fact is, that this is an EXTREMELY low percentage of CM users that are experiencing this problem. With that noted, it's still enough for me to use a different rom, at least until someone can at least figure out what caused that to happen. I am just extremely curious, as to what the actual malfunction with the device is, when this sort of things happens. And why it seems to only be happening on CM. (at least from the reports I've seen around here)
Add me to the list of people with this problem. I think I'm going to try my chances at the Sprint store. They've been good to me so far.
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I dont know what causes this, but this is like the 10th person on a CM rom that's had this exact scenario. Its weird how it happens out of the blue, and then RUU and pc36img just don't work. Very strange. I was just trying to help a guy the other day in this exact scenario. Nothing would get him out of the splash screen. No RUU, PC36IMG of recovery OR a factory ROM, fastboot RUU didn't work. Nothing. Just bricked at the bootloader somehow. I always thought if you could get to the bootloader then you could recovery, but lately there have been quite a few of this exact scenario, and each one was on the same rom. I would love to know what causes this, when the phone is just sitting there, and then goes into a bootloop out of the blue, and then this is the result. It's leaving me frightened to run CM, seriously. What on earth could be causing this type of thing?
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It has nothing to do with CM. It is clearly a hardware problem. It has happened on other roms, but more likely to happen to someone using CM as it is the most used Rom.
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Sorry to open this again, but I'm having the same issue. I'm actually on the HTC Sensation, but I'm posting this here because after hours of searching, this is the ONLY place that seemed to address this seriously.
The reboots began even on the original stock rom. I bought it from a guy on Craigslist, but I'm fairly certain it was the original stock rom, with S-off, unrooted, etc. I thought flashing other roms would help, but they haven't.
Here's my furthest observations thus far:
I have actually found a way to get out of this incessant boot loop. As you said, even recovery is impossible. I was so confused when everyone kept telling me to just go into bootloader mode and go to recovery. I can always get into bootloader mode, but recovery, as you guys said, is pointless, because it just boot loops.
However! I have found that if I leave the battery out for an extended period of time, maybe an hour to several hours later, upon inserting the battery back in, I'm able to load up correctly. But that doesn't last long. Usually I only get one chance. If I use that chance to go into recovery mode the next time it'll just boot loop again.
So now I really think it's something to do with the battery, because when I leave it out for a while, I can finally boot up the phone or get into recovery. I do know that HTC has that lame battery problem of boot looping when the battery is low, so do you guys think that it could be related to the battery stats? When my next "battery-free shift" is over, I'm going to try charging the phone and wiping battery stats.
Sometimes the other way I can get out of the boot loop is to charge the phone fully until it's green, so I'm just not sure. This is insane... any input at all would be greatly appreciated..
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Sorry to open this again, but I'm having the same issue. I'm actually on the HTC Sensation, but I'm posting this here because after hours of searching, this is the ONLY place that seemed to address this seriously.
The reboots began even on the original stock rom. I bought it from a guy on Craigslist, but I'm fairly certain it was the original stock rom, with S-off, unrooted, etc. I thought flashing other roms would help, but they haven't.
Here's my furthest observations thus far:
I have actually found a way to get out of this incessant boot loop. As you said, even recovery is impossible. I was so confused when everyone kept telling me to just go into bootloader mode and go to recovery. I can always get into bootloader mode, but recovery, as you guys said, is pointless, because it just boot loops.
However! I have found that if I leave the battery out for an extended period of time, maybe an hour to several hours later, upon inserting the battery back in, I'm able to load up correctly. But that doesn't last long. Usually I only get one chance. If I use that chance to go into recovery mode the next time it'll just boot loop again.
So now I really think it's something to do with the battery, because when I leave it out for a while, I can finally boot up the phone or get into recovery. I do know that HTC has that lame battery problem of boot looping when the battery is low, so do you guys think that it could be related to the battery stats? When my next "battery-free shift" is over, I'm going to try charging the phone and wiping battery stats.
Sometimes the other way I can get out of the boot loop is to charge the phone fully until it's green, so I'm just not sure. This is insane... any input at all would be greatly appreciated..
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If its anything like the evo you might want to try and wipe cache and dalvik cache when you get into recovery let it boot back up if that doesn't work try to fix permission if that doesn't work wipe battery stats when your phone is at 100% using battery calibration app and if none of that works do a full wipe and flash a new ROM or unroot and run the ruu of the stock ROM .
Sorry I know nothing about that phone so IDK if any of that will work for you just trying to help and those are pretty much the steps I would take.
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Happened to me
Hey guys this happened to me and i was running cm and sense roms i have had alot of experience with this and its an actual glitch that causes the os to stack on each other and confuse the boot the only way to fix is to wipe the entire phone back to stock if that dosent work call sprint and they gladly replace ur phone due to manufacture defect its been happening to unrooted phones also from the updatesnot being installed properly phone needs to be wiped every time u do a new rom
Hi Guys, Idon't post too often as you can see, but I have had a great time rooting my Evo and learning from all the awesome members here. I do my research, and until now I have not run across a problem I could not fix on my own.
I am running CM7 nightly 26, and out of nowhere today, my phone rebooted and proceeded to get stuck in a boot loop. I am not surprised by that kind of thing at this point, but for the first time ever, I was not able to boot into recovery. If I select that option from the boot loader, I just get the white Evo 4G screen and it proceeds to boot loop.
Ok, I thought, maybe my recovery was corrupted somehow, so I pull the SD card and put Amon Ra 2.3 in the root directory and named it PC36IMG.zip and flashed it. No good. I still can't get into recovery.
I also tried downloading the stock (rooted) sprint ROM, putting on the root of my SD card and naming it PC36IMG.zip. After the bootloader detects it and the progress bar finishes, it says "Parsing PC36IMG.zip", and then it just takes me back to the bootloader main menu without an option to flash anything.
Also, is there a way to get S-ON back (with my only access being to the bootloader) in the event that I have to take it in? The alternative would be to drown it or smash it (as a last resort)
Any ideas? Thanks very much in advance for any help!
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Hi Guys, Idon't post too often as you can see, but I have had a great time rooting my Evo and learning from all the awesome members here. I do my research, and until now I have not run across a problem I could not fix on my own.
I am running CM7 nightly 26, and out of nowhere today, my phone rebooted and proceeded to get stuck in a boot loop. I am not surprised by that kind of thing at this point, but for the first time ever, I was not able to boot into recovery. If I select that option from the boot loader, I just get the white Evo 4G screen and it proceeds to boot loop.
Ok, I thought, maybe my recovery was corrupted somehow, so I pull the SD card and put Amon Ra 2.3 in the root directory and named it PC36IMG.zip and flashed it. No good. I still can't get into recovery.
I also tried downloading the stock (rooted) sprint ROM, putting on the root of my SD card and naming it PC36IMG.zip. After the bootloader detects it and the progress bar finishes, it says "Parsing PC36IMG.zip", and then it just takes me back to the bootloader main menu without an option to flash anything.
Also, is there a way to get S-ON back (with my only access being to the bootloader) in the event that I have to take it in? The alternative would be to drown it or smash it (as a last resort)
Any ideas? Thanks very much in advance for any help!
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Many of us are racking our brains trying to figure out what is causing this situation. Everyone who are experiencing this were using CM7, like you, and it happened to of nowhere and for no known reason. I don't think anyone has figured out a workaround, but I could be wrong. I haven't ready through the forums today regarding this issue. Just know that you are not alone, my friend....
Well, it doesn't look too hopeful from what I have seen so far, but thanks for the support. It's good to know that I am not alone.
If you can still access the bootloader, you should still be able to run an RUU through fastboot.
It happened to me, I was one of the first on the forum it happened to, in January. Was never able to fix it, you could spend a loonnngggg time, and get no results. If you search for my threads you can see the ones I started about the subject.
Long story short, I was never able to fix the problem or get S-On. However by doing a battery pull while flashing a rom with a different radio, during the radio installation, I bricked my phone to the point that it wouldn't even turn on. So thats basically your only way out that I know of. You'll have to perform the battery pull upwards 20 times probably before you get the phone to fully brick.
I'm on CM7 nightlies. What are the HW specs of those having these problems? I thought it was due to CWM but there have been some on RA experiencing this too. Just wondering if this is more specific to the newer HW builds/hboots or occurs with all phones.
My Evo is hardware version 003 for what it's worth.
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My Evo is hardware version 003 for what it's worth.
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When you select recovery, what happens?
I had same issue in Jan after flashing miui.
tried the suggestions on this thread..but nothing worked:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-support-troubleshooting/267018-struck-boot-loop.html
Had to replace my phone...that seems to be the only way out of this.
This is the reason I have stayed away from CM for so long. I keep seeing these horror stories about bootlooping, etc. I know its awesome when its running, but when it comes to the point where bricking your phone on purpose is a good thing, something is wrong For those that it has happened to above, did you get your new one and go back to CM (or any other AOSP rom)?
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When you select recovery, what happens?
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When I select recovery, it just goes back to the white Evo 4G screen and proceeds to boot loop. Over and over again
My God, another one. It's weird these seem to be happening more and more...
Westibone said:
When I select recovery, it just goes back to the white Evo 4G screen and proceeds to boot loop. Over and over again
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699565/3.70 RUU Zip.zip Rename it to PC36IMg. Its 3.70 ruu, flash it in the bootloader, then re-root.
teh roxxorz said:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699565/3.70 RUU Zip.zip Rename it to PC36IMg. Its 3.70 ruu, flash it in the bootloader, then re-root.
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Hopefully, your RUU will work. Others who have attempted to this this very thing still couldn't make it work. Me, k2buckley and others have yet to figure it out and believe me, we've tried everything within our experience range. A solution will be found, I have no doubt about that, but "when" is the question that I cannot answer.
teh roxxorz said:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699565/3.70 RUU Zip.zip Rename it to PC36IMg. Its 3.70 ruu, flash it in the bootloader, then re-root.
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Don't know why this keeps happening dude. Just like all the other ones. I promise (unfortunately) that this guy isn't going to be able to recovery. Same as the others. THe RUU won't work, neither will the PC36IMG. I don't know why. THey may appear to complete successfully, but the result will still be hanging at the splash screen. That is my prediction, let's see his results. I hope I'm wrong, truly, I do.
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Don't know why this keeps happening dude. Just like all the other ones. I promise (unfortunately) that this guy isn't going to be able to recovery. Same as the others. THe RUU won't work, neither will the PC36IMG. I don't know why. THey may appear to complete successfully, but the result will still be hanging at the splash screen. That is my prediction, let's see his results. I hope I'm wrong, truly, I do.
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I hope you are too, but I have saved 1 person with the RUU, so I can hope to save more, but yea, I don't know what's causing this pandemic cuz I've been flashing the latest nightlies, reflashing my kernel, with no problems...I hope it works.
Same Here
Wow, what a coincidence, this just happend to me last night. I had just finished installing and flashing the new, SavagedZen(MOD)-RC1-Evo4G, Rom. Went to bed and sometime during the night the phone got stuck on restarting on the EVO white screen and turning off and on continusly. I have tried all the efforts of putting the stock ROM back on and everything else mentioned in this thread, but to no avail. Like you said, cant get into recovery or anything, just keeps looping through startin and stopping.
With all that is said so far on this thread, it looks like a new phone is the only way to fix this.
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Hi Guys, Idon't post too often as you can see, but I have had a great time rooting my Evo and learning from all the awesome members here. I do my research, and until now I have not run across a problem I could not fix on my own.
I am running CM7 nightly 26, and out of nowhere today, my phone rebooted and proceeded to get stuck in a boot loop. I am not surprised by that kind of thing at this point, but for the first time ever, I was not able to boot into recovery. If I select that option from the boot loader, I just get the white Evo 4G screen and it proceeds to boot loop.
Ok, I thought, maybe my recovery was corrupted somehow, so I pull the SD card and put Amon Ra 2.3 in the root directory and named it PC36IMG.zip and flashed it. No good. I still can't get into recovery.
I also tried downloading the stock (rooted) sprint ROM, putting on the root of my SD card and naming it PC36IMG.zip. After the bootloader detects it and the progress bar finishes, it says "Parsing PC36IMG.zip", and then it just takes me back to the bootloader main menu without an option to flash anything.
Also, is there a way to get S-ON back (with my only access being to the bootloader) in the event that I have to take it in? The alternative would be to drown it or smash it (as a last resort)
Any ideas? Thanks very much in advance for any help!
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By some awkward chance, have you tried a full wipe, and then flash a sense rom?
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I hope you are too, but I have saved 1 person with the RUU, so I can hope to save more, but yea, I don't know what's causing this pandemic cuz I've been flashing the latest nightlies, reflashing my kernel, with no problems...I hope it works.
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There was actually one guy that I was able to help recover. (it was short lived though). After trying like 10 different RUU's, one of them had finally took. The phone booted up into a stock sense rom, and the kid was stoked. About 10 minutes after he was up again, his phone rebooted again. Stuck at the splash screen again (this was stock, and he still had s off, because we couldn't ever turn it on). I had him try flashing a recovery again, and low and behold it worked, and he flashed a sense rom. Things seemed fine, and I didn't hear back from him. A few days later, he PM'd be back, saying that it randomly rebooted again, and was stuck at the same splash screen loops. He ended up exchanging his phone. He was the ONLY one, out of quite a few that I've tried to assist through this problem, that was actually able to boot the phone again. Unfortunately, it wasn't stable for him, and then it ended up doing the same thing. Somehow, some way, I believe that the damage was already done, and he just got lucky to be able to squeeze a few extra days out of his Evo, but it was still a short lived recovery.
It's a very perplexing phenomenon that's going on here.
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There was actually one guy that I was able to help recover. (it was short lived though). After trying like 10 different RUU's, one of them had finally took. The phone booted up into a stock sense rom, and the kid was stoked. About 10 minutes after he was up again, his phone rebooted again. Stuck at the splash screen again (this was stock, and he still had s off, because we couldn't ever turn it on). I had him try flashing a recovery again, and low and behold it worked, and he flashed a sense rom. Things seemed fine, and I didn't hear back from him. A few days later, he PM'd be back, saying that it randomly rebooted again, and was stuck at the same splash screen loops. He ended up exchanging his phone. He was the ONLY one, out of quite a few that I've tried to assist through this problem, that was actually able to boot the phone again. Unfortunately, it wasn't stable for him, and then it ended up doing the same thing. Somehow, some way, I believe that the damage was already done, and he just got lucky to be able to squeeze a few extra days out of his Evo, but it was still a short lived recovery.
It's a very perplexing phenomenon that's going on here.
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I hope my case doesn't come back to haunt me. Seems like we got a T Virus of phone crashings going around...those already along their way [like you and I] are imune...the newer ones get sucked in. we haz to fix this soon-ishly.
Signed up for XDA because I got problems, and you guys seems to know everything when I need to use my googl-fu to solve a problem.
Have lurked for hours trying to figure this out. Nothing solves it.
Phone specs: Phone is babied, never dropped etc. Evo 4g on sprint, rooted unrevoked3 method, was running CM7 nightly95.
Have been running this for several days no issue, (since nightly95 came out.)
Was running a CM7 stable build before this. No issues.
And then the problem: Was just using my phone like normal at work it decided it wanted to reboot on me, once, restarts fine, and about an hour later reboots into a boot loop. It was on a charge cable to wall outlet, not pc when this happened, if that matters.
From the boot loop, just starts, vibrates, shows the htc evo screen maybe 10 seconds and reboots.
I can get into Hboot, (power + vol down) but can not get into recovery. if it's selected the boot looping starts again.
I have tried clearing storage, and flashing a couple PC36IMG.ZIP Since it seems to fix other peoples. Since the most I can figure out is putting the SD card into the computer and try loading files from Hboot.
Last one being this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791019
Still boot looping, no recovery.
Any help is appreciated. But I am noob when it comes to command line adb stuff. Just so you know.
what PC36IMG are you trying to flash exactly?
try this one, its amon ra 2.3, its the one i have as a backup in case mine foks up, just take amonra out of the name so its only
PC36IMG.zip, then put in the root of your sd card, turn on phone while pressing volume down, to go into bootloader let the phone recognize it and select yes when asked to update, if thats gets your recovery up try wiping and restoring a backup
If all else fails, try the attached doc.
First, boot into the bootloader, look at the top of the screen and see if it still displays "S-OFF". If it does not, you need to re-root your device. If it displays "S-ON" then If you have a card reader, connect it to your PC or Mac and copy the contents of the SD card to your computer. Afterwards, re-format the card. Now copy a freshly downloaded rom and a freshly downloaded copy of the PC36IMG.zip file for amon-RA recovery version 2.3 to the root of your SD card (not in any folder). Re-insert the card in your EVO and boot to the bootloader. The PC36IMG.zip file *should* be automatically detected and you *should* be prompted to install it. Follow the prompts to install. Installation will take approximately 10 seconds. Afterwards, boot into your new recovery. Go to the wipe menu and wipe EVERYTHING in it EXCEPT the SD card. After that, flash the rom. Be patient during the initial boot process. You *should* be good to go afterwards.
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If all else fails, try the attached doc.
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Tried this a bit ago.
Now it doesn't loop. But it's not any better.
It just boots, htc evo for a few seconds, and then vibrates approx 5 times and screen goes black and the top led flashes green.
Anybody else think this sounds like the bootloop of death? If so, there's no known fix. You can run the PC36IMG, but if that's what it is, you'll never get recovery or any rom to boot up.
I hope I'm wrong, though.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
this sounds just like what happened to my phone. After spending hours on the forums and PM'ing back with a few people, I diagnosed it as the bootloop of death. Which sounds like exactly your going through....
no fix unfortunately...if your s on you can go back to sprint and get a brand new one. If not (like me) smash it pay the $100 deductible and get a refurb. Sucks I know.
For a more in depth thread search "boot loop + no recovery".
If I understand correctly, it's a problem with a partition size and was common with a certain Hardware version (0002?)
The good ole bootloop of death, that I fear so deeply. I hope this never happens to me. I'm sorry for your luck, but it sounds like plainjane is right. I agree, you got the bootloop of death, and most likely won't recover from it. Do you you have insurance ?
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k2buckley said:
The good ole bootloop of death, that I fear so deeply. I hope this never happens to me.
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My fear, too. Every time I boot up in the morning, I hold my breath a little til the Evo screen goes off and the boot.ani starts...
Well, After HipKat first suggestion I can get to s-on. I may try it again with a different RUU but I think it's dead too.
So, since it will be S-on, hopefully there is a new phone in my future, without any money out of pocket.
Thanks for the help guys. I'll let you know if anything fixes it, or what sprint says.
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My fear, too. Every time I boot up in the morning, I hold my breath a little til the Evo screen goes off and the boot.ani starts...
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From what I remember reading about a month ago, when this seemed to be happening a lot, was that it was random.
Didn't start when you were trying to boot up, just suddenly, randomly, terrifyingly, and like death in the night....power off, and never to fully boot again. Just typing about it now kinda scares me like a hex. I hope to finish typing this sentance.
@ OP, really sorry about your luck, man. We all feel you.
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Thats crazy, the same exact thing happened to my brother running CM7 lke a month a go.. is this limited to just AOSP ROMs? I know there's always the potential of bricking your phone flashing, but from what I've been reading it seems its happening to lots of people on AOSP ROMs
fergie716 said:
Thats crazy, the same exact thing happened to my brother running CM7 lke a month a go.. is this limited to just AOSP ROMs? I know there's always the potential of bricking your phone flashing, but from what I've been reading it seems its happening to lots of people on AOSP ROMs
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No, it's not limited to AOSP ROMs, but it does seem that most of the cases were people running CM7 and/or Clockwork Mod. I know there was an argument that it's just that there are so many people running CM that it just seems like CM was the culprit, but it was odd to me, anyhow, how overwhelmingly I saw that it was happening to people running that mod
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No, it's not limited to AOSP ROMs, but it does seem that most of the cases were people running CM7 and/or Clockwork Mod. I know there was an argument that it's just that there are so many people running CM that it just seems like CM was the culprit, but it was odd to me, anyhow, how overwhelmingly I saw that it was happening to people running that mod
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Yea I was reading this happened a few days ago to a guy who was on Decks 2.3.4.. IDK I told my brother to just flash a radio and pull the battery while flashing to try and get a replacement.. But the whole thing freaked me out lol.. Feel bad cuz it could happen to anyone I suppose
Your lucky to get S-ON, I only read about one other person able to get S ON after bootlooping.....take it to the Sprint Store, they should give you a new one on the spot if they have stock, if not they order one overnight. Could have been way worse...
Right now it says s-off again. But acts likes it's on, can't erase anything through fastboot/adb.
Going to try to repeat the RUU install a few times to see if I can get it back to s-on then take it in.
I was one of the first 3 or so people to report about this on the forum - it happened to me over 4 months ago. Anyways, if you flash a PC36IMG-eng and pull the battery at exactly the right time, while the radio is updating your phone will completely brick - it won't even turn on. Then you can take your phone in and just tell sprint it wont turn on. Note, it took me over 20 battery pulls before it finally wouldn't turn on, but its your best option if you can't get S-ON.
Wow that's crazy. I've never heard of the bootloop of death.
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Do a search for Boot loop white screen and you'll find a ton of threads/posts about it
I have an Evo with 0.76.2000 hboot that bootloops upon powering it on, even when going to recovery. I've tried flashing multiple PC36IMGs from hboot, but after "parsing", it just goes back to the hboot menu without installing the .zip.
I was running CM7 happily before this happened. The phone was sitting on the charger and it started bootlooping out of the blue. I haven't tried fastboot as of yet (I've never worked with fastboot because I've never had to), but the fact that all the usual fallback methods aren't working is bizarre.
Any help is appreciated. From what I've read on cases similar to mine, this isn't something that can be fixed, but maybe somebody has made it out of this predicament alive.
Question, does your phone get hotter than usual? I mean like around the lower bottom of the phone towards the charging port?
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When I found it bootlooping on the charger, it was a bit warm, but not more than normal. I just tried flashing a recovery via hboot, and after a seemingly successful install, booting into recovery still gives me bootloops.
Just to clarify, when I say bootloop, I mean the white "HTC Evo" screen over and over - I don't make it to splash.
EDIT: After looking into it more, this looks to be unresolvable, so I'm going to put my efforts into getting S-on so I can take it to Sprint. I've tried several RUUs to no avail, so I'm still taking ideas.
Don't worry about getting S-On. All they're gonna do is try to power up, see it boot loops and be dome with it, in most cases. I really doubt they try to get into recovery, Hboot, etc.
And again, why do the mass majority, almost ALL of these cases come from people running CM 7?
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Don't worry about getting S-On. All they're gonna do is try to power up, see it boot loops and be dome with it, in most cases. I really doubt they try to get into recovery, Hboot, etc.
And again, why do the mass majority, almost ALL of these cases come from people running CM 7?
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Had another case yesterday like this pulled the battery he was on cm7 and he lost recovery+ bootloop and ruu didn't help
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With stuff like bootloops, they do tend to check for s-off. I had a similar bootlooping problem on a stock, never rooted Evo that I got as a replacement. When I took it into Sprint for a replacement, they checked hboot, tried to boot into recovery, etc.
I doubt you'll be able to get s-on. If you flash a radio through hboot then pull the battery during the installation then the phone won't boot again at all. Otherwise you may get stuck with paying the deductible to get a replacement if they wanna blame it on s-off.
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I'm having difficulties flashing a radio, which didn't come as much of a surprise. About half the time, hboot doesn't even check the SD for a PC36IMG. Thanks for the suggestions, guys and gals, but I think the Evo has taken her last breath. I'll ensure she sees a proper burial.
So I haven't used my EVO for a while, it's been sitting in it's dock turned off for a few months.
Fired it up and was met with constant boot loops. The phone usually makes it past the boot animation, but sometimes it doesnt.
Here's what I've done:
Updated from CWM to Smelkus recovery
Wiped all - SD Card - multiple times
Swapped back to stock HTC battery(had a cheap larger battery I was using)
Flashed Team Dirt's remICS - boot loops again
Wiped all again
Flashed remICS again - boot loops
Flashed Radio/Wimax/PRI/NV to most recent (EVO_Radio_2.15.00.08.08_WiMAX_27243_PRI_NV_2.15_00 3)
Wiped all
Flashed remICS - boot loops
Flashed older Radio (EVO_Radio_2.15.00.05.02)
Rebooted - Boot loops again
Wiped all
Flashed Stock OTA w/root etc - boot loops
At this point, I'm lost. If I let the phone sit for a bit, and I'm able to get into the Rom for a minute or so, but usually I don't make it past the unlock screen. Last night I charged the battery and left the phone off and was able to run remICS for my 40 min drive to work, it rebooted once I started actually using the phone this morning.
To me it sounds like overheating, but the phone never feels hot. Something hardware wise has to be failing.
So all I have now is a fresh Evo bowl of BootLoops® :good:...Any way to recover? Do some diagnostics to see what is actually going on? Or is it time to trash it and go buy an SGS3
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So I haven't used my EVO for a while, it's been sitting in it's dock turned off for a few months.
Fired it up and was met with constant boot loops. The phone usually makes it past the boot animation, but sometimes it doesnt.
Here's what I've done:
Updated from CWM to Smelkus recovery
Wiped all - SD Card - multiple times
Swapped back to stock HTC battery(had a cheap larger battery I was using)
Flashed Team Dirt's remICS - boot loops again
Wiped all again
Flashed remICS again - boot loops
Flashed Radio/Wimax/PRI/NV to most recent (EVO_Radio_2.15.00.08.08_WiMAX_27243_PRI_NV_2.15_00 3)
Wiped all
Flashed remICS - boot loops
Flashed older Radio (EVO_Radio_2.15.00.05.02)
Rebooted - Boot loops again
Wiped all
Flashed Stock OTA w/root etc - boot loops
At this point, I'm lost. If I let the phone sit for a bit, and I'm able to get into the Rom for a minute or so, but usually I don't make it past the unlock screen. Last night I charged the battery and left the phone off and was able to run remICS for my 40 min drive to work, it rebooted once I started actually using the phone this morning.
To me it sounds like overheating, but the phone never feels hot. Something hardware wise has to be failing.
So all I have now is a fresh Evo bowl of BootLoops® :good:...Any way to recover? Do some diagnostics to see what is actually going on? Or is it time to trash it and go buy an SGS3
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Have you checked the Bootloader? What's your HBOOT version, and NAND security status?
kingofslackerz said:
So I haven't used my EVO for a while, it's been sitting in it's dock turned off for a few months.
Fired it up and was met with constant boot loops. The phone usually makes it past the boot animation, but sometimes it doesnt.
Here's what I've done:
Updated from CWM to Smelkus recovery
Wiped all - SD Card - multiple times
Swapped back to stock HTC battery(had a cheap larger battery I was using)
Flashed Team Dirt's remICS - boot loops again
Wiped all again
Flashed remICS again - boot loops
Flashed Radio/Wimax/PRI/NV to most recent (EVO_Radio_2.15.00.08.08_WiMAX_27243_PRI_NV_2.15_00 3)
Wiped all
Flashed remICS - boot loops
Flashed older Radio (EVO_Radio_2.15.00.05.02)
Rebooted - Boot loops again
Wiped all
Flashed Stock OTA w/root etc - boot loops
At this point, I'm lost. If I let the phone sit for a bit, and I'm able to get into the Rom for a minute or so, but usually I don't make it past the unlock screen. Last night I charged the battery and left the phone off and was able to run remICS for my 40 min drive to work, it rebooted once I started actually using the phone this morning.
To me it sounds like overheating, but the phone never feels hot. Something hardware wise has to be failing.
So all I have now is a fresh Evo bowl of BootLoops® :good:...Any way to recover? Do some diagnostics to see what is actually going on? Or is it time to trash it and go buy an SGS3
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Is your sd card partitioned?
ICS Evo = awesomeness :-D
Captain_Throwback said:
Have you checked the Bootloader? What's your HBOOT version, and NAND security status?
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By Checked you mean?
Supersonic EVT203 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT 0.97.0000
dragonsofcp said:
Is your sd card partitioned?
ICS Evo = awesomeness :-D
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Was not before the initial wipe, is now. I experience the boot loops with or without the sd card installed, also before and after partitioning.
kingofslackerz said:
By Checked you mean?
Supersonic EVT203 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT 0.97.0000
Was not before the initial wipe, is now. I experience the boot loops with or without the sd card installed, also before and after partitioning.
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In your case, I'd probably recommend completely unrooting and flashing back to stock. If that works, then you can start over with rooting again.
Captain_Throwback said:
In your case, I'd probably recommend completely unrooting and flashing back to stock. If that works, then you can start over with rooting again.
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I figured that was the next step, will try tomorrow, thanks.
kingofslackerz said:
I figured that was the next step, will try tomorrow, thanks.
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Reverted to compatible radios, successfully flashed S-ON fix, and loaded the appropriate RUU through HBOOT.
RUU loaded,completed, I rebooted and was met with boot loops, but this time it was immediately after the HTC EVO white screen.
Shut the phone off for a while, and booted, then the phone boots into my current ROM. And I'm still able to get into recovery.
I'm guessing the RUU didn't take, guess I'll try to find a different download, kinda confused as to why it wouldn't update via HBOOT and I didn't get any errors.
Finally RUU via windows and fastboot, more boot loops!!! Anyone want this paperweight
If it is even possible, update your hboot. That version is the worst version.
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death-by-soap said:
If it is even possible, update your hboot. That version is the worst version.
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I can try, will have to root again. But I don't see that causing all these issues.
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Finally RUU via windows and fastboot, more boot loops!!! Anyone want this paperweight
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Well if you're giving it away .....
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I can try, will have to root again. But I don't see that causing all these issues.
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I know that version of hboot gives people a hell of a time with boot loops. I have 2.10 and its perfect. Never had a problem. It may or may not solve it, but if you want to keep your evo, its worth a shot.
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death-by-soap said:
I know that version of hboot gives people a hell of a time with boot loops. I have 2.10 and its perfect. Never had a problem. It may or may not solve it, but if you want to keep your evo, its worth a shot.
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Thanks for the insight, didn't know it could cause that much of an issue
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Thanks for the insight, didn't know it could cause that much of an issue
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Anytime. Good to spread some knowledge y'know? If you do manage to fix it, let us know how it works
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Anytime. Good to spread some knowledge y'know? If you do manage to fix it, let us know how it works
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I am on the same boat and have the same hboot version. How would I go about updating this and where can I obtain a newer copy of the hboot?
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I am on the same boat and have the same hboot version. How would I go about updating this and where can I obtain a newer copy of the hboot?
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Google and the search button are your friends.
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I couldn't even get the RUU to update, nor get unrevoked to fully Run. After reboot, it would boot again. I'm back to S-Off but no recover. Can't flash it via Fastboot, as I receive a "remote failed" error when trying to flash.
It's obvious there is something significantly wrong with this phone. Picked up my SGS3 today, I guess I'll see if I can get some cash for it @ ATT or online. While the SGS3 is great, I will miss my EVO, it's now like an ex girlfriend you once loved, lol.
Gimmie for Parts?
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If it's in good condition you can get around $100 on ebay as a parts phone. I myself didn't have quite that same problem, but kind of close I guess. Couldn't get anything to work. I originally thought I had bricked mine with initial root, as all it would do was sit at the Sprint logo (rooted with a stock root because it was my first, and didnt know what I wanted to do with it.) Anyhow, I had to pull the battery several times while flashing different roms until I finally got the original stock root rom to finally take hold of the darn thing. I haven't updated HBOOT or anything and I have had mine since about a month after they released them and haven't had a single problem since then. I flash like crazy trying to find ones that I like. (Too bad Sense doesn't have 4G cause thats what I like the most so far, and 3G tether is worse than dial-up sometimes, heh). What I'm getting at is sometimes persistence pays off. Took me about 2 days of not having a phone and several packs of smokes for the frustrations to get it going, lol.
I'll take it off your hands for you.