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ok, i searched for the problem i had but couldnt find anything relevant. i hope someone can direct me to it, if there is any already, or give me an answer,
i downloaded Setcpu and ive seen most of people using "conservative" scaling for better battery life, but i dont see that option in the app. i just see ondemand, userspace and performance.
any idea if im doing something wrong?
and also i would appreciate if someone can tell me the settings for longer battery life? wanted to try it but didnt understand that much.
thanks.
btw im using virus rom rc3 with stock kernel.
The governors are kernel specific- if the kernel doesn't support it, it won't show up as an option. In your case, conservative scaling is not supported by the kernel you are using.
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The governors are kernel specific- if the kernel doesn't support it, it won't show up as an option. In your case, conservative scaling is not supported by the kernel you are using.
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oh ok. now i got it. thanks for the info.
Both Netarchy and Kings kernels have "conservative" governors on them. One of the top ways to conserve battery is to make a profile setting for Screen Off where you set the min and max freq to the lowest possible setting. For me though I can go to 128 Mhz, I get too much lag on wake-up and therefore set to 384. Your phone may do better.
Someone also made a thread that describes the advanced settings. Tweaking those can also improve battery life as well.
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sombdy said:
Both Netarchy and Kings kernels have "conservative" governors on them. One of the top ways to conserve battery is to make a profile setting for Screen Off where you set the min and max freq to the lowest possible setting. For me though I can go to 128 Mhz, I get too much lag on wake-up and therefore set to 384. Your phone may do better.
Someone also made a thread that describes the advanced settings. Tweaking those can also improve battery life as well.
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appreciate it.. thanks ..
I'm about to flash the CM7 RC1 ROM and would like to know, what would be the best kernel to flash with it? I looked into the Savage Kernel and the links are dead. Does Netarchy do a universal kernel that works with all roms?
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Hello everyone i"m just stopping by so I can reach my 10 post limit so that I can make a post in the development section.
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You could have atleast answered his question, or made a useful post to reach it.
Anyways... the stock kernal that comes with cm7 is actually pretty good. But I use the savaged zen kernel, it gives me amazing battery life and has the smartass and savaged zen govenors tied in.
Bamba1260 said:
You could have atleast answered his question, or made a useful post to reach it.
Anyways... the stock kernal that comes with cm7 is actually pretty good. But I use the savaged zen kernel, it gives me amazing battery life and has the smartass and savaged zen govenors tied in.
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Yea I downloaded it also. Next question. Where the hell is the google addons download link? Im going crazy here with no gmail app and market!!!
knowledge561 said:
Yea I downloaded it also. Next question. Where the hell is the google addons download link? Im going crazy here with no gmail app and market!!!
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http://goo-inside.me/google-apps/latest/
I hear there is an issue with the market today and the gmail app isn't coming down right, but you can still give it a shot.
Use the stock kernel! CM team puts a lot of work into it.
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Use the stock kernel! CM team puts a lot of work into it.
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Does the stock kernel work as good as this savage one i've been hearing about?
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Does the stock kernel work as good as this savage one i've been hearing about?
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I am running CM7 with the stock kernel and so far its great. Its fast and the battery life is nice for me. You can go into Settings > CyanogenmodSettings>Performance and change the cpu setting to batterysaver as well.
Man.. first off.. give one of the Nightlies a shot. RC1 was ok for me, but i found that nightly #6 was AMAZING...
Now on to your question... like mentioned above, the one that comes with CM7 is pretty awesome. However, i find that i like the Savage-zen a little more. I am using v1.0 with CFS and SBC and it is WOOOW!!!
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I am running CM7 with the stock kernel and so far its great. Its fast and the battery life is nice for me. You can go into Settings > CyanogenmodSettings>Performance and change the cpu setting to batterysaver as well.
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yeah and then your phone acts like it is dying everytime you try and do anything.
I much prefer the savaged.zen governor that is based off the smartass governor.
I usually get 2 - 2/12 days with the savaged.zen kernal with SetCPU set on this governor. Though i am about to try out not using SetCPU and using the built in settings from CM and see if they work the same and save me having SetCPU running 24/7. BTW i am running a 1750 MaH battery, same size as stock battery.
Yea I don't use that setting just letting the op know. Let me know how your testing goes. I'm going to try setcpu for the first time.
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yeah and then your phone acts like it is dying everytime you try and do anything.
I much prefer the savaged.zen governor that is based off the smartass governor.
I usually get 2 - 2/12 days with the savaged.zen kernal with SetCPU set on this governor. Though i am about to try out not using SetCPU and using the built in settings from CM and see if they work the same and save me having SetCPU running 24/7. BTW i am running a 1750 MaH battery, same size as stock battery.
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Which cm setting would be closest to smartass? Conservative? Ondemand?
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bdoople said:
yeah and then your phone acts like it is dying everytime you try and do anything.
I much prefer the savaged.zen governor that is based off the smartass governor.
I usually get 2 - 2/12 days with the savaged.zen kernal with SetCPU set on this governor. Though i am about to try out not using SetCPU and using the built in settings from CM and see if they work the same and save me having SetCPU running 24/7. BTW i am running a 1750 MaH battery, same size as stock battery.
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Mind telling me what version of Savaged.Zen Kernel you are running to get this battery life? BFS or CFS?
Does anyone know if it is necessary to use profiles (ie. screen-off profile) if you're using the savagedzen governor?
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Does anyone know if it is necessary to use profiles (ie. screen-off profile) if you're using the savagedzen governor?
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You can. Alot of people say it helps alot but some say setcpu isn't helping. Try using the smartass governor and the screen off profile. That way it will underclock the CPU while screen is off. It won't hurt.
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[Q] cm7 cpu setting or setcpu?
well atm i am running an evo 4g with cm7 and i just switched my kernel to savaged zen and it's running great. my phone was rebooting on its own w/ the regular cm7 kernel i think its b/c i was using setcpu and people are saying it messes up cm7.
so i was wondering if anyone knew if i can use setcpu with cm7 and savaged as the kernel or if it's possible to make profiles on the cpu settings on cm7 i saw some1 post somewhere that you can but they never explained how.
p.s. please also visit this thread on battery life
AFirst of all, all SavagedZen kernels are Havs kernels (as far as I remember, I'll double check in a few). Anyway, if you are using a Havs kernel, changing cpu settings is pointless/counteractive. I would either leave the settings alone or switch to a no-havs kernel. You can check in settings>about phone.
EDIT: However, if you must mess with the settings, you can find them in Cyanogenmod Settings under Performance Settings. I don't know of a way to set profiles from that screen, though - only max/min & governor.
hi i have an evo running cm7 and i had setcpu and my phone kept restarting however i looked up setcpu again in the market and it said that they just ran an update to stop the problem with cm7, does this mean that setcpu is better to use than the cpu setting in cm7?
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hi i have an evo running cm7 and i had setcpu and my phone kept restarting however i looked up setcpu again in the market and it said that they just ran an update to stop the problem with cm7, does this mean that setcpu is better to use than the cpu setting in cm7?
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You shouldn't need setcpu use the cpu setting in cm7. They put it there for a reason, those guys are sharp!
I still use setcpu because I like my screen off profiles etc. You should update your setcpu if it prompted you to. I think the latest changes were for cm7/GB.
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Yes but it doesn't let u make profiles unlike setcpu, or does it?
I believe the profiles is definately the most useful
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It says it was for cm7
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I believe the SavageZen governor is a specially tweaked/optimized version of the SmartAss governor.
And if you use Smartass/SavageZen governor, I think it also automatically undervolts when sleeping, and essentially mimics what a screen-off profile in SetCPU would do.
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AFirst of all, all SavagedZen kernels are Havs kernels (as far as I remember, I'll double check in a few). Anyway, if you are using a Havs kernel, changing cpu settings is pointless/counteractive. I would either leave the settings alone or switch to a no-havs kernel. You can check in settings>about phone.
EDIT: However, if you must mess with the settings, you can find them in Cyanogenmod Settings under Performance Settings. I don't know of a way to set profiles from that screen, though - only max/min & governor.
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but how exactly does havs control battery usage? and if i use setcpu wouldn't the havs not function only setcpu will function b/c of priority?
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I believe the SavageZen governor is a specially tweaked/optimized version of the SmartAss governor.
And if you use Smartass/SavageZen governor, I think it also automatically undervolts when sleeping, and essentially mimics what a screen-off profile in SetCPU would do.
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how do u use Smartass/SavageZen governor?
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how do u use Smartass/SavageZen governor?
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In CM Settings, go to Performance Settings & then CPU settings. Under available governors choose SavagedZen or Smartass. I'd try them out & see which you like the most. I prefer SavagedZen, I seem to get better battery life & performance.
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Thanks, sorry its my 2nd day on this forum
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In CM Settings, go to Performance Settings & then CPU settings. Under available governors choose SavagedZen or Smartass. I'd try them out & see which you like the most. I prefer SavagedZen, I seem to get better battery life & performance.
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thanks atm im using the savagedzen, and jw is autokiller memor optimizer useful now or not?
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thanks atm im using the savagedzen, and jw is autokiller memor optimizer useful now or not?
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Personally I have never needed a task killer while on CM7, so I am going to recommend against it.
Well I had talked to someone else that is using it like that and they said they get amazing battery life
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I say no toward any kind of task killer. First of all, they're pointless. You're killing stuff that isn't using any power to begin with, which then restarts anyway. The task killer itself is actually doing something, running on a set schedule, where as the tasks you're killing are just sitting in memory for faster opening.
It bugs me that even the techs at Sprint recommend it, so every person that doesn't know anything about how their phone works thinks it's necessary. Then in the market for every clock widget you see everyone going "like zomg the clock doesn't keep time your app sucks 1*" because the damn task killer is killing it. That's if they can even figure out how to use it & not complain that it "won't open", despite clear instructions on how to put a widget on your screen.
Sorry, totally went off on a rant there.
But yeah, stay away from task killers & let Android do its job. You don't have to have a ton of memory free for your phone to run perfectly fine under normal usage. I don't notice a difference between 300mb & 50mb free. If you don't worry about it, you won't either.
Free memory does not equal more battery.
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I say no toward any kind of task killer. First of all, they're pointless. You're killing stuff that isn't using any power to begin with, which then restarts anyway. The task killer itself is actually doing something, running on a set schedule, where as the tasks you're killing are just sitting in memory for faster opening.
It bugs me that even the techs at Sprint recommend it, so every person that doesn't know anything about how their phone works thinks it's necessary. Then in the market for every clock widget you see everyone going "like zomg the clock doesn't keep time your app sucks 1*" because the damn task killer is killing it. That's if they can even figure out how to use it & not complain that it "won't open", despite clear instructions on how to put a widget on your screen.
Sorry, totally went off on a rant there.
But yeah, stay away from task killers & let Android do its job. You don't have to have a ton of memory free for your phone to run perfectly fine under normal usage. I don't notice a difference between 300mb & 50mb free. If you don't worry about it, you won't either.
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but doesn't free memory mean less things are running or even being used just a tad bit which does mean a better battery life?
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but doesn't free memory mean less things are running or even being used just a tad bit which does mean a better battery life?
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No. Memory has nothing to do with battery.
Screen, radios, and CPU use battery and that's about it.
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No. Memory has nothing to do with battery.
Screen, radios, and CPU use battery and that's about it.
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So do u agree w/ system panel/juice defender?
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ive had my DHD a week now and its permenantly rooted and security is off, running CM07RC4.
where do i go from here to overclock? is it an app or process?
You need a overclockable kernel to begin with and then you need an app like setcpu to change the freqency.
you can use app like CPU tuner as an alternative to setcpu too. As mentioned by Hawks556, make sure your kernel is overclockable. =)
Ok that something I didn't know, how do I know if the kernel is ocable?
And thanks for the help
Download setcpu and try it.
If you get past 1032mhz, you know that you have an ocable kernel
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he got cm7...
the kernel is oc'able, go into your settings, then cynanogen mod settings and then performance settings
there u can set up oc
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he got cm7...
the kernel is oc'able, go into your settings, then cynanogen mod settings and then performance settings
there u can set up oc
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spot on mate thanks alot !
its insane how much better the battery life is with cm07 over the stock "3" rom is, ive gone from lasting half a day at best to 2 days+
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he got cm7...
the kernel is oc'able, go into your settings, then cynanogen mod settings and then performance settings
there u can set up oc
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Sorry my bad, I've tried CM7 out for one day only a while ago. Didn't remember it had this functionality from the beginning.
Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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augoza said:
Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.
You can set the cpu governor with a program called setCPU on the marketplace. You can further control the CPU by flashing another kernel. What ROM are you running? Stock? I would try the netarchy kernel (newest version) if you're running a sense-based ROM.. I've found it has phenomenal battery life (medium use i get 15-20hrs) and I'm overclocked to 1.152ghz.
A program called tasker can also make your data connection go off and back on with the screen. I'm unsure how to set the profile but I do know thats possible. Try looking around here: http://tasker.wikidot.com You should be able to find something about it.
EDIT: Nevermind about netarchy, did not see your signature on your ROM and kernel.
ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)
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ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)
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Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat
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Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat
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didn't know that. thanks.
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SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.
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Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
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I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....
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I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....
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Any reason?
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Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
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Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
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Any reason?
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Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.
1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.
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1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.
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Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.
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Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.
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That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.
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That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.
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I couldn't agree more. Setting up a basic screen off profile with a conservative setting is useful, otherwise it actually gets in the way of already built in kernel benefits, actually undoing them in many cases. I stopped using setcpu a while ago and my battery life has not suffered at all.
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-viperboy- said:
Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.
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Thanks viper!
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