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Missing apps in the Market, this will repeat and forever (April 23, 2010)

UPDATE:
As of April 23, 2010 HTC Desire users can see / buy protected apps from the Android Market !
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I know, this has been discussed again and again.
We have to wait until Google finished finger-printing the phone firmware and added it to the Market. Something like Google should certify the phone firmware to be able to use the Market.
Granted, no problem with that ... if Google can do it very quickly.
But how long???
This will be a long wait ... or VERY LONG WAIT
Take a look from the official Google Android Market forum support:
Even the HTC Legend is still having this issue (which was released earlier)
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=683d89c4f4fd4593&hl=en
After more than 1 month, it is still not fixed !!!
And this is for HTC Hero:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=3529bae358433fcd&hl=en
Started on July 22, 2009 ... Until March 2010 ... Or is it still till now??? Probably on certain firmware from certain mobile operators or whatnot.
I really cannot believe Google screws this great Android platform like this.
Think about the next firmware update, from Google or HTC ... We will AGAIN get this issue ... Then wait again very long.
I am really mad and hate this. The phone is nice, but this? Do I forced to find "elsewhere" (pirated, cracked version of Android apps)?
If one of you guys is capable of writing a good professional article or blog regarding this issue, we could spread the voice all over the internet / twitter / facebook / blogs / news so Google could "end" or "fix" this.
Because this is unacceptable ... will REPEAT (every firmware update) and FOREVER
PS: This is repost from AndroidForums.com by me.

It's staggering really. Particularly like google Earth. I can't get that through the android market!
This should be fixed....

will a rooted desire solve the problem?

mtbmtbmtb said:
will a rooted desire solve the problem?
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I think so, since at that point you can change your phone "ID", so the market thinks it is a nexus/G1/X10 etc etc.
If there si a phone with full access to the market, you change your ID to that one et voilá...

how about changing from a T-Mobile ROM to a generic one?

I'm have a desire with the same issue, running the latest generic firmware. I have to source apps I can't find on the market place elsewhere. There really needs to be more urgency put on the finger printing process by Google!

Think Google have their dummy out as the Nexus isnt doing too well lol
Seriously though. This is bad. The iphone/pod does so well because of the apps. Microsoft are doing so badly because of the apps. Google dont shoot yourself in the foot.
Its sad as I told my mate today that the android just lacks big named titles then I go on cryket and there are some cool titles Gameloft & EA but not found on the marketplace when I search.
Really is a pity we have to wait so long.

gogol said:
Think about the next firmware update, from Google or HTC ... We will AGAIN get this issue ... Then wait again very long.
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Knowing HTC they probably won't release many updates for the Desire anyway, unless they've realised that in order to sell more units they need to provide fixes!

ritdaw said:
Knowing HTC they probably won't release many updates for the Desire anyway, unless they've realised that in order to sell more units they need to provide fixes!
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Hahaha, don't be daft now! When do HTC ever really fix issues? Thats why we all love xda so much.

This won't help ... I am using generic one
This issue is silly ... I cant support Android platform by spending money on apps. I want to do this to support Android developers so they will be happy and encouraged to develop more better apps.
If I am a developer, I will be really mad ...
Some apps are in http://www.slideme.org , but not all.
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how about changing from a T-Mobile ROM to a generic one?
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This guy is making work of the market problem. At least for the Legend. So let's hope this will also solve the problem for the Desire.
Otherwise we have to wait for root acces and alter the build.prop file ourselves.

Bart1981 said:
This guy is making work of the market problem. At least for the Legend. So let's hope this will also solve the problem for the Desire.
Otherwise we have to wait for root acces and alter the build.prop file ourselves.
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As far as I can gather, he says nothing specifically about the market problem, he's just saying an OTA is underway for the Legend that should fix that phone's specific problems getting apps that need access to the camera.
He says nothing about the missing protected apps, and nothing about the Desire either.

Just got off the phone to HTC:
Apparently there is a ROM update to fix this in the works which will be released in "the next four weeks". She was quite adamant that it wasn't just a Google thing...
I gave her a list of apps that I couldn't download and she said she'd pass it on.
She did say that the more people that call up and report this the better. It then lets HTC know how much pain its causing.
Get calling!

Oh boy ... 4 weeks??? I hope HTC will roll out a very good list of patches!
If it will include "Flash 10.1" with hardware acceleration, then I will forgive them (HTC and Google)
Google IO conference will be on May 19 - 20.

I wrote an article about it as suggested and its up
http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/...121/htc-desire-has-android-marketplace-issues

We should spread this out.
But, why do you only mention "unbranded" ??? Because this issue happen on ALL HTC Desire devices released till today.
And also HTC Legend ... and some HTC Hero still.
Read my #1 post.
Gr3m1in said:
I wrote an article about it as suggested and its up
http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/...121/htc-desire-has-android-marketplace-issues
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Retweeted your article, can all Twitter users do the same (and Digg/ReTweet all similar articles!).

Gr3m1in said:
I wrote an article about it as suggested and its up
http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/...121/htc-desire-has-android-marketplace-issues
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Good. Thanks for the article.
But I have one of the first T-mobile Desire's bought direct from T-mobile (1.15.110.11) and I still can't see protected apps like Tapatalk, Google Earth, etc. So the problem isn't restricted to unbranded phones as your article suggests.

gogol said:
We should spread this out.
But, why do you only mention "unbranded" ??? Because this issue happen on ALL HTC Desire devices released till today.
And also HTC Legend ... and some HTC Hero still.
Read my #1 post.
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There had been reports that it works on SOME branded Desires
and your thread wasn't the first written about this issue, it was raised a few days before you did it just wasnt published until now the original thread I came across only mentioned the Desire
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Good. Thanks for the article.
But I have one of the first T-mobile Desire's bought direct from T-mobile (1.15.110.11) and I still can't see protected apps like Tapatalk, Google Earth, etc. So the problem isn't restricted to unbranded phones as your article suggests.
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That was the editor, I requested the update it hasnt happened yet so I apologise
it was supposed to say some unbranded devices

is this the same issue why i cant see Google maps in the market place on my phone? i'm in ireland.. unlocked unbranded desire.. tried both o2 and meteor networks

File Explorer Demoed For Windows Phone 7, Coming Soon

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/touchxplorer-windows-phone-7-file-explorer-demoed-coming-soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57XWYlcZxGM&feature=player_embedded
this is interesting, so does this mean we will be able to download mp3s and such through the web browser and access them using this like we can on windows mobile?

i doubt. it appears to just be an app, so unless it's homebrewed to use interop to do it in which case i don't see it getting into the market place.

The Gate Keeper said:
i doubt. it appears to just be an app, so unless it's homebrewed to use interop to do it in which case i don't see it getting into the market place.
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It would be awesome.

The Gate Keeper said:
i doubt. it appears to just be an app, so unless it's homebrewed to use interop to do it in which case i don't see it getting into the market place.
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if you read his web site you will see that it is only for homebrew , and that is the best that can happen for a file explorer
http://www.touchxperience.com/

I really hope that schaps either releases the source code, or doesn't obfuscate it so other developers can make use of this.

yea likewise. though based on readings, i believe he's just calling HTC's interop service to pull the file listings that way.

The Gate Keeper said:
yea likewise. though based on readings, i believe he's just calling HTC's interop service to pull the file listings that way.
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Where did you read this? very interested..

and let the patry begin
http://forum.touchxperience.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=582#p2308

I can only say WOW WOW wOW

Yes WOW!!!

his wp7 UI for winmo was coming soon for almost a year. Let's hope this is a little faster.

nrfitchett4 said:
his wp7 UI for winmo was coming soon for almost a year. Let's hope this is a little faster.
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LOL, but this you can already download
http://forum.touchxperience.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=582

Who knows if I will not root my device first time in my life.
WP7 with extra power is my dream.

[Q] WM7 internet Data Counter

Good day guys.
I got my brand new omnia 7 and i was wondering abiout the possibility to keep in control the 3g data used per month.
is there any apps or any way to control the amount of data used (and i'm talking about the data used through the carrier).
Thak you very much

WM7? What's that?

GenkaiMade said:
WM7? What's that?
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oh s##t you right! I was hung up to Windows mobile but now is WP7.. I meant Windows phone 7. I don't belive there is not internet data counter!!!

I have a live tile on my homescreen which is a link to the following website;
http://wap.o2.co.uk/myo2account/myprepayallowance
This webpage gives me my remaining credit, how many free texts I have left and how much data I have left. So it provides a data counter.
This is for UK O2 Pay as you go, but I'm sure other carriers provide similar mobile web pages for their customers to see their account status.
There's really no need for an app. Just find out the URL from your carrier and pin the page to your home screen. Et voila!

Jim Coleman said:
I have a live tile on my homescreen which is a link to the following website;
This webpage gives me my remaining credit, how many free texts I have left and how much data I have left. So it provides a data counter.
This is for UK O2 Pay as you go, but I'm sure other carriers provide similar mobile web pages for their customers to see their account status.
There's really no need for an app. Just find out the URL from your carrier and pin the page to your home screen. Et voila!
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well... One of our cerriers doesn't provide such option... And besides, it is one of the minimum requirements that a phone like this should have... What surprises me the most is that no app has been developed yet... =[

murdok83 said:
well... One of our cerriers doesn't provide such option... And besides, it is one of the minimum requirements that a phone like this should have... What surprises me the most is that no app has been developed yet... =[
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Wait - Your carrier doesn't have a website? Who are you with, Joe's Garden Shed Aerial Sales?

Jim Coleman said:
Wait - Your carrier doesn't have a website? Who are you with, Joe's Garden Shed Aerial Sales?
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I don't know this guy, but I'd love to... anyway, my carrier (WIND) does have a website but it doesn't give the chance to track the amount of bytes that have been used... i know.. it's sad!!
Nonetheless, I keep saying that this option should be given for this amount of money

it is indeed a bit weird that a smartphone wouldn't provide this information, but hopefully MS wise up a bit and bring it in as part of an update sometime soon.
i don't believe you'll see a proper app for this (possibly a homebrew one might come along though) as the proper APIs for this haven't been made available (i think anyways).

The Gate Keeper said:
it is indeed a bit weird that a smartphone wouldn't provide this information, but hopefully MS wise up a bit and bring it in as part of an update sometime soon.
i don't believe you'll see a proper app for this (possibly a homebrew one might come along though) as the proper APIs for this haven't been made available (i think anyways).
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...BUT WHY???!!! Please, oh God, TELL ME WHY THEY DID THIS TO US ...
why couldn't they add these simple features like:
-Ringtones&vibrations loving each other
-Data counter telling you that you're spending way too much time online
-A camera that you can silence in order to take picture of your neighborhood
WHY... WHYYYYYYYYY?????

murdok83 said:
...BUT WHY???!!! Please, oh God, TELL ME WHY THEY DID THIS TO US ...
why couldn't they add these simple features like:
-Ringtones&vibrations loving each other
-Data counter telling you that you're spending way too much time online
-A camera that you can silence in order to take picture of your neighborhood
WHY... WHYYYYYYYYY?????
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Well one could equally well ask why your carrier refuses to share with you your data usage via its website.

Jim Coleman said:
Well one could equally well ask why your carrier refuses to share with you your data usage via its website.
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I like your sarcasms... Because you were sarcastic, weren't you?!
Anyway, it is like not being able to keep track of how many minutes we've talked... Mah, to be or not to be
...

i definitely understand what you're talking about. and yes there is still a lot missing. hopefully MS actually takes the time with these updates to implement some of these features which i don't think would take all that long to code. but for now, be patient. perhaps post your ideas on social.microsoft.com, as that is the direct communication line with them. and perhaps in one of the pinned threads (future updates i think it is), so that we can keep track of features we'd like to see.

murdok83 said:
...BUT WHY???!!! Please, oh God, TELL ME WHY THEY DID THIS TO US ...
why couldn't they add these simple features like:
-Ringtones&vibrations loving each other
-Data counter telling you that you're spending way too much time online
-A camera that you can silence in order to take picture of your neighborhood
WHY... WHYYYYYYYYY?????
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do we even know why you need a silent shudder???

some want it. from what i've read in the past, HTC phone's shutter sound obays the actual volume you set, so if you set the volume to 0, you get no shutter sound. this doesn't apply to Samsung and LG phones though. but i think having a silent shutter should be added.

App published but not in MP

Got my 2 apps published and can see the same under my AppList, it says certified and it is under the Publised tab, but it is still not showing up in the MP.
Any idea?

Publishing can take 24-48 hours.

It does take time. 24-48 hours is pretty accurate. I have been able to see my published apps in the website http://windowsphone.com/marketplace but could not find it by searching the marketplace. It'll get there, the system just takes a while to sync up. Patience!

lamborg said:
Any idea?
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The "deep link" should start working in 12 hours. App become searchable on mp in 24-36 hours.

sensboston said:
The "deep link" should start working in 12 hours. App become searchable on mp in 24-36 hours.
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Yeah and watch out.. do NOT click Edit Details unless you want to get caught in a metadata loop for a week.. just to have support give you "workarounds" that don't work lol <--- speaking from experience

snickler said:
Yeah and watch out.. do NOT click Edit Details unless you want to get caught in a metadata loop for a week.. just to have support give you "workarounds" that don't work lol <--- speaking from experience
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This is very true. Your app will then show a status of "Submission Started" or something to that effect. I don't think it actually hurts a published app but I had this and it generally confused me. You can always go back in and click "Cancel Submission" to leave your app as is though.

uptempo777 said:
This is very true. Your app will then show a status of "Submission Started" or something to that effect. I don't think it actually hurts a published app but I had this and it generally confused me. You can always go back in and click "Cancel Submission" to leave your app as is though.
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I wasn't able to cancel the submission. I made them cancel the certification and turns out I still had to make a metadata update in order to escape it lol. Oh well, I'll know next time.

Marketplace publishing process (comparing with year ago) now become very slow and annoying. And MS still want to expand developers community! I'm afraid if developers should wait two or more weeks to be published (actually, I'm talking more about quick bugfixes etc., not the initial submission), developer's interest to WP7 platform will reduced.

sensboston said:
Marketplace publishing process (comparing with year ago) now become very slow and annoying. And MS still want to expand developers community! I'm afraid if developers should wait two or more weeks to be published (actually, I'm talking more about quick bugfixes etc., not the initial submission), developer's interest to WP7 platform will reduced.
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On top of that, the Dashboard is not current, frequently broken and should really have more data for developers to be able to know stats of their apps (other than just download count and crash count).

uptempo777 said:
On top of that, the Dashboard is not current, frequently broken and should really have more data for developers to be able to know stats of their apps (other than just download count and crash count).
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Definitely. To reply to sensbostons post. What you say is correct. My app got published and a bug occurred immediately that I needed to post an update to. Needless to say I was JUST able to upload my updated xap yesterday and the bug happened two weeks ago. The support is horrible as I was instructed to do things that ultimately led to pushbacks. Do they want their developers to have faith in this Marketplace? I've been wondering that. That dashboard... The buggiest thing of all. Sometimes I refresh and it tells me it doesn't have my tax information at all.

snickler said:
Definitely. To reply to sensbostons post. What you say is correct. My app got published and a bug occurred immediately that I needed to post an update to. Needless to say I was JUST able to upload my updated xap yesterday and the bug happened two weeks ago. The support is horrible as I was instructed to do things that ultimately led to pushbacks. Do they want their developers to have faith in this Marketplace? I've been wondering that. That dashboard... The buggiest thing of all. Sometimes I refresh and it tells me it doesn't have my tax information at all.
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Yeah after entering my tax information about 10 times, I realized they have it. Just that the dashboard's buggyness is something to live with for now.

uptempo777 said:
Yeah after entering my tax information about 10 times, I realized they have it. Just that the dashboard's buggyness is something to live with for now.
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Ugh, I just entered it again, I didn't realize this.
Yes to echo what others have said, on top of normal app maintenance having to fight with the App Hub's slowness and constant errors doesn't get me excited for app writing.
Interesting post on overwriting a successful submission.
http://goo.gl/4V7dM

Thanks guys, the Deep link worked and now the apps are on MP.

lamborg said:
Thanks guys, the Deep link worked and now the apps are on MP.
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sweet. What's the name of your app?
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

snickler said:
sweet. What's the name of your app?
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LOLcat

lamborg said:
LOLcat
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that's a pretty nice app. I love LOLCats so this is perfect.
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Completely remove the lock screen?

Hello guys,
is there a way to completely remove the lock screen on W10M? It will be a really nice hack...
I tried this way but it doesn't work on my Lumia-950 with the latest updates (some articles said, MS disabled this tweak in the Anniversary update).

sensboston said:
Hello guys,
is there a way to completely remove the lock screen on W10M? It will be a really nice hack...
I tried this way but it doesn't work on my Lumia-950 with the latest updates (some articles said, MS disabled this tweak in the Anniversary update).
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how did u do this in previous buils?
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iammomin said:
how did u do this in previous buils?
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I did what? I said, the tweak described above isn't working anymore (this article said that clearly: The following registry hack no longer works after the Windows 10 Anniversary Update.) And I don't have any handset with the pre-Anniversary build of W10M to try... But it doesn't really matter: nobody will roll-back and disable updates just to get rid of the lock screen.
What's why I'm asking people who exploring registry and new possible tweaks on the platform.

sensboston said:
I did what? I said, the tweak described above isn't working anymore (this article said that clearly: The following registry hack no longer works after the Windows 10 Anniversary Update.)
What's why I'm asking people who exploring registry and new possible tweaks on the platform.
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u haven't tried it on th1 builds?
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