Well, I searched the forums and haven't found anything specifically for the Defy.
Coming from an HTC Wildfire, which under similar usage had a battery drain split of 30% Cell standby, 30% wifi, 30% system, I noticed that with the exact same usage, the Defy has a cell standby use of over 50% every single day (right now its at 54%). Funny thing is, it ALWAYS says on the battery manager that there is no reception for exactly 50% of the time. This is bull, because I live in central London, and I rarely get less than maximum signal displayed.
Also, I'm on WiFi almost all the time, (WiFi at home and at uni, so the only time it uses 3g/HSPA is on the way there and back, which is less than half an hour).
Has anyone else had this? Any idea what may cause it? I feel like I should be getting better battery life than what I'm getting now, it lasts under a day.
Setting your mobile to 2G only should save you a little power, also be careful with task killers as they can kill some system processes that reduce battery usage, restart you cell to get them back.
I can get 3-4days of battery life with lite use.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Setting your mobile to 2G only should save you a little power, also be careful with task killers as they can kill some system processes that reduce battery usage, restart you cell to get them back.
I can get 3-4days of battery life with lite use.
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm not using any task killers, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Any tips on how to switch it to 2G? I can't figure out anything in the network settings.
I'm just thinking that there may be something wrong with my radio receiver/transmitter to be using so much power in comparison to wifi and phone idle (well, compared to my last phone).
You can switch to 2G in wireless & network settings, mobile networks, select network.
But I am already using 2G and I have the same issue, maybe it is a little better than 3G, but still the "cell standby" is using most of the battery.
I saw the battery usage on Galaxy and there is only a very small usage for "cell standby" only about 10%.
i dont know what's going on with your cell,but WIFI is actually the biggest battery taker
,and the strength of signal power really do something to your WIFI chipset battery usage
what about a better WIFI signal....err i tried to change my cell into 2G or even outline
it doesn't work too much as i want
so maybe think about the WIFI problem?
Well, right now the main drainers are as follows:
Mobile standby: 44%
Go Launcher EX: 25%
Wi-Fi: 15%
Display: 15%
Phone idle: 2%
I was in my place all day today, with the phone permanently connected to Wi-Fi, so 3G was not in use. I get very strong cell reception in my place so I either have a spectacularly efficient WiFi module, or a power hungry cell radio. Or the measurements the phone is taking are wrong.
On another note, Go Launcher seems to be taking up a large percentage since its last update (yesterday or the day before), so I'm uninstalling that.
if WIFI should not be the reason and you've uninstalled the update task,i think it should be OK...but what would you do if that doesn't work?
the battery usage of standby was still more than 40 percent,yes?
why dont you download another battery monitor software....?
i'd have a longtime software error in my HTC G3.....it alwaws show me 45percent remaining battery ....
in setting/wireless & network/mobile networks/select network --- it's good to set 2G or 3G do not let automatic because it switches from 3G to 2G if the signal drops. Set 3g and see how it is.
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mine on automatic in 6 hours battery dropped to 50% in standby, and now it is set to 3g all the time
mine:
Mobile standby: 40%
Display: 22%
Phone idle: 21%
System: 4%
Games, Adw Launcher EX and os: each 3-2%
when in games mine sometimes freezes and i must get out and restart the game???? i dont no why and i dont no if it is ok but ....
Thanks for the input everybody. So all of today I used the phone pretty sparingly at home, and it's been constantly connected to WiFi. Distribution is:
Mobile Standby: 56%
Wi-Fi: 19%
Display: 12%
Phone idle: 9%
Android System 2%
Under Mobile Standby, it still says "Time without a signal: 50%" even though it's definitely had perfect reception all day. I don't know what's causing it to report incorrect numbers :/
Anyway, I switched from auto to 3g auto (I tried 2G, it didn't seem to work properly, Google wouldn't even load).
I guess I'll just ignore it :/
Edit: When not on wifi, it seems to switch between 3g and HSPA quite often. Could this mean something?
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Edit: When not on wifi, it seems to switch between 3g and HSPA quite often. Could this mean something?
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just like what <stapuv>says when your cell drops any one of the 3G or HSPA singnal another singnal will be switched...it'll use more power for changing network frequently.....but i dont no if this could be the reason for your situation...hmmmm
From my reading the 50% without signal is just a software bug, and can be fixed by toggling on aeroplane mode turning of teh screen for 20 seconds or so and then turning of aeroplane mod when you notice it's happening. the 50% will soon decrease. I too believe that cell standby is using way to much on my phone (always 45%+) even though im browesing the web facebook or playing games for larger peroids of time and those apps don't even show up on the battery usage display and if they do theya re only 2 percent or less.
I have a question for you guys :
I get
46% mobile standby
43% phone idle
10% voice calls
3% display
is this 43% phone idle all right? Doea it mean that 43% of the battery have beed drained by phone in idle state (so maybe not sleeping?) or it means that from all the time phone was idle (asleep) for 43%?
I guess mobile standby use is about the same on everyones phones. That's what I wanted to find out!
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Well, right now the main drainers are as follows:
Mobile standby: 44%
Go Launcher EX: 25%
Wi-Fi: 15%
Display: 15%
Phone idle: 2%
On another note, Go Launcher seems to be taking up a large percentage since its last update (yesterday or the day before), so I'm uninstalling that.
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After Go Launcher EX latest update, the battery seems to drain a lot faster during idle/standby. Removed that and standby battery usage is better.
Just thought I'd add my finding on this.
My Defy regularly showed Mobile Standard over 50% - but also time without signal was always double the time that the phone had been switched on. For instance if the phone was switched on since a reboot for 1 hour then mobile standby would show the total time as 2 hours but time without a signal as 1 hour.
I had always been running on a battery saver profile (in froyo I was running the custom battery profile) & after every reboot the mobile standby bug would show.
Yesterday I changed my battery profile to the Performance mode & after several reboots the bug hasn't shown up & now the mobile standby shows the total time correctly & zero minutes without signal. The %age use has dropped to be more in line with wifi at around 32%.
I haven't noticed any difference in battery life so as mentioned in a previous post it does look like some sort of bug.
A percentage is a proportion.
Just because it's higher on the Defy, that doesn't mean the mobile standby is using more power than it does on other handsets, it could just mean everything else is using less.
There's no point comparing your Defy's battery usage to any other handset apart from another Defy.
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Just thought I'd add my finding on this.
My Defy regularly showed Mobile Standard over 50% - but also time without signal was always double the time that the phone had been switched on. For instance if the phone was switched on since a reboot for 1 hour then mobile standby would show the total time as 2 hours but time without a signal as 1 hour.
I had always been running on a battery saver profile (in froyo I was running the custom battery profile) & after every reboot the mobile standby bug would show.
Yesterday I changed my battery profile to the Performance mode & after several reboots the bug hasn't shown up & now the mobile standby shows the total time correctly & zero minutes without signal. The %age use has dropped to be more in line with wifi at around 32%.
I haven't noticed any difference in battery life so as mentioned in a previous post it does look like some sort of bug.
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OK so after a few days of having no issue I rebooted the phone & the "bug" came back today so I guess it wasn't to do with the battery mode as I then put it back into custom battery mode, rebooted the bug went away.
Haven't noticed any difference over the last few days so I'm not going to worry about it.
I have found that DEFY is getting the readings wrong!
Here is how I get this:
1) fully charged the battery
2) started angry birds.
3) ~2 hour later, battery dropped to 60% and usages was as follows:
mobile standby 49%
phone idle 40%
display 4%
angry birds 7%
WTF ?!?! it should be : angry birds ~ 80%
This mettery is tottaly useless!
Personally I couldn't care less what the battery usage breakdown says. In my case 1% battery can standby 1~2 hours or use 3~5 minutes. That's pretty good for me as a charge can last 2 days.
Hi.
Could someone with this "bug" or "battery problems" do a test for me ?
A few hours after you've last charged your phone (or connected to USB) and being sure you haven't rebooted your phone recently (24 hours or so), do the following:
(My phone uses spanish language so the names might be different ...)
Dial *#*#4636#*#*, and choose battery history.
There, choose "CPU Use" and "since last charged".
What are the 4 or 5 main processes appearing in that list, and what's the CPU time they've used (you'll find that by "clicking" on the process' name) ?
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Hey all, I don't know if anyone has even noticed on their Evo's but on mine, the Android system usually eats most of the battery. I noticed there is a ton of processes under Android system that are running compared to like five on my Hero. I've never seen the core system processes take up more than maybe 15% of the battery, but right now, I'm at like 41% with 16m 6s of CPU total and 47s of CPU foreground. If anyone knows why this is or a way to fix it, please let me know. I'm on the first MR update. I've been able to get a lot of battery stuff figured out, if I can get the system to calm down, then I should be able to get even better battery life than my Hero.
I'm seeing the same thing, android system is at 96% battery use after letting the phone sit overnight. Never saw that on my nexus, this is strange.
Could be related to the fact that everything is syncing up, I just activated last night too.
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Yeah, the system seems to have calmed down a bit today, though I also have the OC widget running to keep the processor lower during sleep. I'm guessing its helping, but I'm not sure if there is something else to get it down. I almost never even saw the System show up in usage on my Hero, now its one of the top contributers. I got used to having custom roms on the Hero, but so far all I need on the Evo is unrevoked. I know a lot of people around here don't like it, but I found I only needed a couple of apps that require root and so far love it. That OC widget really comes in handy.
maybe i can clear things up a little bit for you guys...what you see in the battery use section is distributed across 100% of the time since you last had it plugged in. if you notice all the percentage numbers add up to 100%.
if you plug your phone in and turn it on and off on you will see that android system is probably around the 90's thats because android system has used 90+ percent of the phone since you plugged it in....over time that number will lower, becuase other things will start using the battery power... what you see is a percentage based on time. not based on whats actually working RIGHT THEN AND THERE do you guys understand?
I too am having that problem and at 15% battery life warning - it still shows my Android system @ 40-44% usage after 8hrs of work.
I mostly text message all day long due to work - make phone calls and recieve calls from work every hour. GPS on for no more than 15min all day long to get direction when my keymap book doesnt help.
4g off, bluetooth off, background data 15 min only (gps) than off, gps off when not in use, mobile network (3g) off when not in use.
I would have figured my screen being on would have drained my battery life since I check text message every 10-15mins for 8hrs...
So went to work at 9am, 100% life
got off work 6pm, 25% life
I've done all the tricks, cdma only, force stopped a bunch of apps, goggle talk off, sync off, making sure maps/gps has been closed (forced or not)
still disappointed with battery life.
Unrooted Evo
My crappy AT&T Razr lasts me 2-3days with text message + call + 1.5hr of playing Bejeweled a day
*facepalm* you guys don't get it....
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I too am having that problem and at 15% battery life warning - it still shows my Android system @ 40-44% usage after 8hrs of work.
I mostly text message all day long due to work - make phone calls and recieve calls from work every hour. GPS on for no more than 15min all day long to get direction when my keymap book doesnt help.
4g off, bluetooth off, background data 15 min only (gps) than off, gps off when not in use, mobile network (3g) off when not in use.
I would have figured my screen being on would have drained my battery life since I check text message every 10-15mins for 8hrs...
So went to work at 9am, 100% life
got off work 6pm, 25% life
I've done all the tricks, cdma only, force stopped a bunch of apps, goggle talk off, sync off, making sure maps/gps has been closed (forced or not)
still disappointed with battery life.
Unrooted Evo
My crappy AT&T Razr lasts me 2-3days with text message + call + 1.5hr of playing Bejeweled a day
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check your hardware version there is a thread about different types of evos and it seems like everyone who has the hardware revision 0001 has really bad battery life. i would exchange your device.
Yes we know, Freelancerx, or at least I do. But after over 8 hours and the system is still using more of the battery than anything else is a little disturbing. Never seen that on any other device. I have Hardware 0002.
I have this same issue with hardware version 0002. I run Fresh 1.0.1, i use Netarchy-toastmod kernal, have latest radio. I have also tried Damage Control (did get slightly better battery life out of DC but not amazingly different)
after 7 hrs since unplugged my andriod system is at 39%, cell standby 28% phone idle 20% display 9%.
i dont have bluetooth, wifi or 4g on. I use juicedefender+ultimate to turn off apn when screen is not on. I use set CPU to underclock when i am unplugged and go down to 128 when screen off and i am Stilll lucky if i make it all day with moderate usage.
Every day it is the same andrioid system is around 40% of the usage for the time it was unpluged.
the following is listed under included packages (not sure if this shows the same for everyone or if it shows what packages are running)
BRCMBluetoothService - Bluetooth is not on so if it shows packages running this may be an issue
Sync Feeds - I have all android syncs off and mail at 6 hours
settings storage
Rosie Utility
Acounts & syync
Account and sync settings
settings
HTC Widget Download Manager
Network Location
Setup
HTC Checkin service
Checkin serivce
VPN services
Android system
Wonder if there is something to the android system on these (ie something not turning off that should) or if we are all just crazy and happen to get the same results.
I had a hardware 0002 model and often experienced the same thing with high system % usage.
My phone was replaced, due to a screen issue, and now I have the 0003 model and seems system % is much lower so far.
I haven't installed any system update yet, so I am on the first original release rom (not rooted yet).
Going to be testing it for a few days before I update and root, so I can make a fair comparison between the original and current oem's.
If your phone is on....Android system is being used.
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If your phone is on....Android system is being used.
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I think everyone here understands this. the question i think we are trying to figure out is why with similar usage and configurations some people get 40-60% android systems usage while others get 10% over the same period of time.
Android system is way too high.
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If your phone is on....Android system is being used.
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Yes but if it is configured in an optimal way then android system is always beneath cell standby and phone idle.
For example, today after 15h 28m 23s since unplugged I have...
Cell stanby 38%
Phone idle 37%
Android System.....12%
That is with background processing with auto syncing every hour or so.
I just got the Desire last week, and trying to get the most out of the battery as I can
I have the ROM from HERE:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I have the nexus 1 animated wallpaper ON
Screen brightness on AUTO - but timeout=30secs
animations ON
Back-ground data + auto-sync ON
`Always-on Mobile Data`-under Networks is ON
network is WCDMA ONLY - to try stop it from hopping from G 3G H E etc etc
etc.
Data roaming is OFF
Bluetooth OFF
WIFI OFF
didnt use blutooth or WIFI at all in approx 18hours of battery discharge.. for the first 10hrs approxit was idle (overnight) the was light web browsing etc, NOT wifi, just 3G browsing/sms etc
Is this any good?
when the battery is LOW i get a screen showing the battery stats but cannot find that screen when Phone is fully charged ??
cheers
You're alright, I kill mine for either 12h or less, like 6
3g browsing, few calls and some play with the ui
Auto-sync is a real battery killer. Do your updates manually or switch off network connection when you dont need it (with apndroid or similar). Idle battery usage should be about ~1% / hour.
The display(amoled) when in use uses a LOT of power. Keep it as low as possible.
Try to check from time to time if any apps you've installed has any wakelock -bugs. When the phone doesnt sleep with the screen off, the battery usage is way off, like 30-40% idle overnight vs. ~8%.
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I thought I'd report on my testing with CPUspy. I've had the Nexus for two weeks now, drained the battery completely from a full charge about 4 to 5 times.
CPUspy is stating that the phone is in deep sleep 95% of the time with 350mhz 3% of the time and all other frequencies at 0% for some reason.
I'm running stock with data plan always off, bluetooth always off and WiFi only twice per week for about 30 minutes + the phone never uses 3G, only 2G networks. I've not made too many calls (3 calls) and about 11 texts during the two week period. I've installed two 2D games, battery monitor widget and Facebook app.
Today I installed Juice Defender (free version) but I honestly think that it wont help at all since my settings are already very tight/restricted. I always make sure no apps are running in the background.
With light use (4 text messages, zero phone calls and 18 minutes using WiFi, phone only in 2G mode and playing 20 minutes of games) the battery depletes about 28%.
My results:
Android OS is using between 28% and 68% of the battery
Phone idle is around 38%
Cell Standby is around 14%.
What is the difference between phone idle and cell standby? How does CPUspy tell me that the phone is 95% in deep sleep yet it drains so heavily with light use and without any use at all about 4% per hour? Is CPUspy a good program to use with ICS?
I thought my findings would be of assistance to some of you.
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Hello, i've take a look to your screenshots and it looks like its clearly not an app that drains your battery.
You talked about weather. How many towns have you got in the main clock screen ?
I read here that if you have too many towns, it can drain the battery ...
Just remove all the towns and setup your home town only in clocks main screen's parameters.
And i recently modified something on my phone, in some hidden menu.
( You should call *#*#INFO#*#* and the menu appears ... ).
It was on "WDCMA preferred" ( 3G+ forced even low !!! ) and i set it to "GSM Auto PRL".
I didn't noticed lots of changes for battery usage, but it looks like i have "weirdly" more often H connection instead of 3G or 2G.
It should be the opposite, and i should be more often on 3G/2G ... ...
Maybe its just your phone trying to connect to a WDCMA network that is very poor and that drains battery.
Setting the "GSM Auto PRL" appear to avoid this kind of "forced" connection to WDCMA network and minimize battery consumption.
Here is more information on that point i found here on XDA : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688492
Just try another "preferred mode" and see what happens ...
Good luck
Thanks DanRZ. I only have 1 town for weather (New York), and I am on the LTE network - so not sure if those various modes are applicable?
if you are on lte than you are in the wrong forum... the one x cant connect to lte
Ah man, didn't realize there was a separate one. Thank you!!
Btw something is keeping your device awake , it doesnt go to deep sleep---- Sorry i have made a mistake i saw like 7 hours awake in badass , it was minutes . Also what i have noticed is that you have 18 min without signal ,maybe that is draining battery - constantly switching data connection
I was having similar battery problems. It didn't seem like there was an app draining my battery...but after I did a factory reset and installed none of the same apps (except for betterbattery stats) my phone no longer had the same battery problems as before. I'm going to slowly install the old apps one at a time until I figure out which one was the problem.
Hi everyone!
I'm using JellyTime 4.2.2R8 on my DHD.
It's working fast but battery drain so much.
Ex: I only view screen, scroll something. Everage 1 minute, battery degree 1-2%
Who can help optimize this problem?, thanks!
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Hi everyone!
I'm using JellyTime 4.2.2R8 on my DHD.
It's working fast but battery drain so much.
Ex: I only view screen, scroll something. Everage 1 minute, battery degree 1-2%
Who can help optimize this problem?, thanks!
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Hi,
I installed JellyTime R8 on Monday evening, and I haven't experienced such a battery drain so far, it goes down a bit faster than my stock Gingerbread+Sense ROM. I might have other stats issues (wrong "on battery" duration, charge stuck at 90%...), but no drain so far.
I am not well experienced in flashing ROMs and how to solve problems, but I have seen lots of people advising to flash the battery stats and recalibrate. But you need a few complete charge/discharge cycles to make it work properly. (But according to a few other people, it's a kind of religious belief too...)
You can also install a more precise battery stats app. I saw a more detailed message in Jellytime Dev thread (in one of the last pages). If I find it again, I let you know.
BetterBatteryStats
banghn said:
Hi everyone!
I'm using JellyTime 4.2.2R8 on my DHD.
It's working fast but battery drain so much.
Ex: I only view screen, scroll something. Everage 1 minute, battery degree 1-2%
Who can help optimize this problem?, thanks!
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I cannot find again the thread/post where I saw this information, but the application some people advise to use is BetterBatteryStats.
To give you a counter example: since I flashed JellyTime R8 (Monday 20th Mai, 23h GMT+1), I fully charged my phone only twice.
The first discharge took almost a day (but I used it a lot, configuring and playing with the new features).
The second discharge started 33 hours ago and I still have 50% as we speak. Maybe the stats are wrong, but the phone is still ON after 33hours. I'll let you know how long it lasts.
I am on GSM roaming all day long, but my phone stays most of the time in standby mode.
A few things that I've done to optimize the battery life:
- remove the constant location-tracking, both GPS and 3G (especially as GPS is not working since I flashed JT R8);
- remove permanent/auto 3G connection, as I am spending all the day abroad, it is useless to keep 3G activated, without data roaming on.
Go in Settings/location and switch the toggle off.
Go in Settings, expand Wireless and Networks (Plus), then Mobile Networks and untick the first box (my ROM is in french so I am not 100% sure of the translation, it might be something like Activate Data)
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Thanks Matth59 !
I toggled off some setting in phone (GPS, MobileData, effect screen, animation, turn off notification some app...)
But but it does not improve the problem of battery.
I charged full battery, after 24minutes
Saw status of battery on 24m19s, (95%)
Screen 70% (I set bright of screen about 20-30%)
Cell standby 6%
Android system 5%
Phone idle 5%
Wifi 3%
Facebook 3%
Android OS 2%
Media server 2%
banghn said:
Thanks Matth59 !
I toggled off some setting in phone (GPS, MobileData, effect screen, animation, turn off notification some app...)
But but it does not improve the problem of battery.
I charged full battery, after 24minutes
Saw status of battery on 24m19s, (95%)
Screen 70% (I set bright of screen about 20-30%)
Cell standby 6%
Android system 5%
Phone idle 5%
Wifi 3%
Facebook 3%
Android OS 2%
Media server 2%
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And how long does it usually take for it to be discharged?
The second time I charged it, it said that charge was complete and stopped charging at 90%, and I got the impression that it reached that level quite fast. But the device is still on, after 38 hours.
I hope somebody with more experience in that field can give you a better advice or more information, than just flashing the battery stats and recalibrate it.
After one week of using R8, this is how battery is going for me.
On standby, it can last as long as it used to with the stock Sense + Gingerbread ROM (or even a bit more, but maybe because I haven't reinstalled all my apps).
When using the phone, battery life is going down quite fast, and I am not sure if it can last more than 1 day of normal use (3g, mails, messages, calls...).
The most battery consuming task is the screen. It makes me wonder if it could be related to the feature that was introduced by Google since JellyBean 4.1: Project Butter, which makes everything smooth in Android.