Ok, so I finally got into the smartphone game to get a better music streaming experience. MFRadio and MFScorn just weren't cutting it for me anymore. I hated the skips and the ridiculously long (and repeated) buffering time. So I first looked at Android phones but went with WinMo because they say you can run both OS's with WinMo (and the only Android offering from AT&T has a 12-hour standby time before the battery dies, according to reviews).
I have a Bluetooth head unit and have had over a dozen phones paired with it. This phone however is a completely different story. I have installed the latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site). At first I tried streaming with the bundled Windows Media Player which apparently doesn't stream anything at all (with both the bundled and downloaded releases of the OS), then downloaded TCPMP. TCPMP is everything I have ever dreamed of in a streaming media player, but the only problem I have with it is that it won't connect to a stream unless I have already opened up a browser window and went to a website. Not the end of the world.
So, I get in my truck and initiate pairing to the phone. It sees the head unit as a Hands-free and as Stereo Audio. I can get it to connect for a split second and then it dies. I get a popup notification that tells me that the phone cannot control volume when paired to the bluetooth device and audio must be adjusted from the device itself. Fine. But then it doesn't work at all. At first, I wanted to blame TCPMP until I realized that nothing at all was working with the head unit. I think I got it to work once but it never worked again.
So is there any way to fix this problem? This is the one thing I wanted working on my new phone. Yes, the notifications that my texts were successfully sent are very annoying (as well as the other notifications), and yes, Windows Media Player for Mobile is useless, but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
What can I do? I have not yet unlocked anything (although I have a SIM unlock code waiting) and have not yet flashed Hard-SPL. My phone has Bluetooth for Windows Mobile Version 1.9.2 Build 600 HCI Version 4.84. I'd do anything at this point to get this working. Windows Mobile is not that precious to me either. PLEASE HELP!
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Ok, so I finally got into the smartphone game to get a better music streaming experience. MFRadio and MFScorn just weren't cutting it for me anymore. I hated the skips and the ridiculously long (and repeated) buffering time. So I first looked at Android phones but went with WinMo because they say you can run both OS's with WinMo (and the only Android offering from AT&T has a 12-hour standby time before the battery dies, according to reviews).
I have a Bluetooth head unit and have had over a dozen phones paired with it. This phone however is a completely different story. I have installed the latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site). At first I tried streaming with the bundled Windows Media Player which apparently doesn't stream anything at all (with both the bundled and downloaded releases of the OS), then downloaded TCPMP. TCPMP is everything I have ever dreamed of in a streaming media player, but the only problem I have with it is that it won't connect to a stream unless I have already opened up a browser window and went to a website. Not the end of the world.
So, I get in my truck and initiate pairing to the phone. It sees the head unit as a Hands-free and as Stereo Audio. I can get it to connect for a split second and then it dies. I get a popup notification that tells me that the phone cannot control volume when paired to the bluetooth device and audio must be adjusted from the device itself. Fine. But then it doesn't work at all. At first, I wanted to blame TCPMP until I realized that nothing at all was working with the head unit. I think I got it to work once but it never worked again.
So is there any way to fix this problem? This is the one thing I wanted working on my new phone. Yes, the notifications that my texts were successfully sent are very annoying (as well as the other notifications), and yes, Windows Media Player for Mobile is useless, but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
What can I do? I have not yet unlocked anything (although I have a SIM unlock code waiting) and have not yet flashed Hard-SPL. My phone has Bluetooth for Windows Mobile Version 1.9.2 Build 600 HCI Version 4.84. I'd do anything at this point to get this working. Windows Mobile is not that precious to me either. PLEASE HELP!
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Hmmmm .... I don't believe you ever stated what type of headset you are trying to get working here? I find your problem to be very strange, even though WinMo does seem to be lacking in a lot of different areas, audio streaming via bluetooth stereo headset is definitely not a problem I have encountered. It even streams flawlessly through my 5.1 hooked to my pc via a crappy 8 buck bt dongle and still sounds excellent. Have you considered that the problem may lie with your bt headset itself?
Also, when you say that you installed latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site), what exactly do you mean? I am running the "unofficial" leaked rom from AT&T on mine and I just paired my Motorola S9 stereo headset and it is playing great for me. You also may want to try using some different software, give S2P (Slide 2 Play) a try and see if you have different results. That's what I am using right now, but I have used TCPMP to play a few xVids through my headset and have had no problems.
The problem is not in the head unit. 25 other phones can't all be wrong. I have no problem using my bluetooth headset. That is probably why you don't see the problem. Anything more complex than a headset will not work with this release. The problem lies within the phone as soon as it displays a notification (which, of course I cannot disable) which reads, "The connected Bluetooth headset does not support volume adjustment from the device. Adjust volume on the headset itself."
That message is the kiss of death. So basically any Bluetooth head unit will not work with this phone? Sounds like shoddy programming to me. Yes, I am using the "leaked" release. I really don't think this release will ever see the light of day. Its horrible! You cannot disable notifications (I don't need to know when my text messages were sent successfully), and it looks like whenever I get a system notification, any program I am using crashes immediately. Like I said before, as soon as I get a notification, I lose the Bluetooth connection (which is like a split second before the notification comes up). I highly doubt this "leaked" copy will ever see the light of day, officially (unless AT&T and HTC do absolutely zero testing on it).
A little clarification for those who don't know... when I say "head unit" I'm talking about a Bluetooth-enabled car stereo and when I say "headset" I mean a Bluetooth headset
My Tilt 2 works absolutely fine with all my BT devices, including 2 Motorola headphone sets and my Sony Xplod head unit in my truck.
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A little clarification for those who don't know... when I say "head unit" I'm talking about a Bluetooth-enabled car stereo and when I say "headset" I mean a Bluetooth headset
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I was mis-understanding you about the head unit, I did think you were talking about a headset. Sorry bout that, my Mustang doesn't have built-in BT so I have to use a Motorokr t505 for those chores. It works well but it does give me the same message that you are getting about "volume can't be cotrolled etc" but I can dismiss it and carry on without any problems.
but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
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Since you don't need your phone for calls, just get Sirius or XM. Ya know, considering you only stream music through the phone..
Did you try the BT headset or head unit with the original stock ROM before you flashed the "leaked official" ROM?
Seems like you might have a couple random issues, with the BT issues and the system notifications crashing programs. I haven't flashed the leaked ROM, but I do know that many random issues with cooked ROMs can often be cleared up by running Task29, which completely wipes the phone memory before you flash a new ROM. I think you will need to HardSPL before you run Task29. Might be worth a try, sometimes fragments of the old ROM interfere with the new one, and cause some bugs.
Bluetooth protocols can be implemented differently by different manufacturers.
I know of many people including myself who have NO PROBLEM with the tilt 2 and different Bluetooth products INCLUDING car radios.
I am using the "new" AT&T ROM and have no difficulties.
Clearly your pissed but your subject is wrong. I would suggest changing to "Worthless as $HIT to ME"
I think my problem is that I am getting notifications which seem to be killing my connection. Is there a way to turn all notifications OFF? The only ones I care about are missed calls, incoming SMS and maybe a birthday. I would like to try to kill the notifications first because I think this may solve my problem
You can get yourself a free reg editor (like Total Commander) and apply the following tweaks to modify the notifications:
SMS sent notification: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/24/enable-or-disable-the-sms-text-message-sent-notification-bubble/
Other notifications: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/24/tweak-and-configure-how-notifications-work-in-windows-mobile-notifications/
Although, this sounds like a band-aid just hiding a deeper problem. What you are describing is not typical behavior, and this is something else going on.
redpoint73 said:
You can get yourself a free reg editor (like Total Commander) and apply the following tweaks to modify the notifications:
SMS sent notification: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...he-sms-text-message-sent-notification-bubble/
Other notifications: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...cations-work-in-windows-mobile-notifications/
Although, this sounds like a band-aid just hiding a deeper problem. What you are describing is not typical behavior, and this is something else going on.
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Thanks I will try these out and report back
For the record my head unit is a JVC KD-BT11 and I have never had any kind of problem pairing any other phone
Somebody else just posted a very similar issue, and found the app hAndyUtils to be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741311
I think hAndyUtils might just be a app-based way to make the reg edits I posted earlier. But give it a try.
I scanned through the topic and did not see anyone mention this so I thought I would add my .02. The Tilt 2 is different than many other WM phones when it comes to bluetooth as it contains the Widcomm BT stack instead of the MS stack. (Just as an aside, on all my past phones, there were people bemoaning the the fact that it had MS, and trying to replace it with the Widcomm, so I am getting a real chuckle out of folks complaining about the Widcomm and wishing for MS )
In any case, the utilities (Blue music toggle etc...) that used to work for me to toggle between streaming in stereo and plain phone qulity no longer work. However, all my stereo headsets (I own three different brands/pairs) all work perfectly with the Tilt 2. And stay connected and streaming all day.
By the way, coming on a forum that is full of people helping each other and using profanity, anger and threats, is not the most conducive way to get your questions answered. The odds are that the problem you are having is already solved somewhere among the 6+ million posts in this forum. I do not know where or I would post it for you, but it is probably out there. Good luck. And if you find it, please post the link to the answer back here so that other serchers will find it too.
maybe it can come from the phone itself
i had a rhodium for almost a year and never got my motorola headset ht820 to work well enough for me to use it... (more skips than music...cant move my head without a skip)
i flashed to a NRG rom before trying my headset...i tried eveything as far as ref setting, different radios...even flashed my ht820...
no improvement...
then my phone fell in water not so long ago...got another rhodium same model (european)...and it worked perfect out the box on stock rom i can go in a different room than my device and still hear music with no skips...and it still does with nrg rom and latest radio...
so my guess is maybe some actual devices have bad bluetooth hardware ???
I have the Motorola S9 and the HT820 and both work absolutely fine on my Tilt 2.
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I scanned through the topic and did not see anyone mention this so I thought I would add my .02. The Tilt 2 is different than many other WM phones when it comes to bluetooth as it contains the Widcomm BT stack instead of the MS stack.
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Can I change my Bluetooth stack to MS? I have installed Hard-SPL and have experimented with cooked ROMs to no avail.
I sent the phone back to AT&T, went to Trinidad & Tobago for a few weeks and came home to a new Tilt 2 waiting at my doorstep (which could have been stolen by anyone!) and I am still having the same problem. So I guess I sent back a perfectly good phone!
I would love to try some different Bluetooth stacks if possible. Where do I go from here?
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Can I change my Bluetooth stack to MS? I have installed Hard-SPL and have experimented with cooked ROMs to no avail.
I sent the phone back to AT&T, went to Trinidad & Tobago for a few weeks and came home to a new Tilt 2 waiting at my doorstep (which could have been stolen by anyone!) and I am still having the same problem. So I guess I sent back a perfectly good phone!
I would love to try some different Bluetooth stacks if possible. Where do I go from here?
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Did you ever try the solution in this thread? It fixed a lot of issues people were having with bluetooth car kits. Maybe it will work for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591322
The solution source is here: http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/moto-q-9c/q9c-and-infiniti-g35x-bluetooth-problem-16833-4.html
And here is the solution. You need a registry editor to do this:
1. Modify the HandsFree plug-in:
HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\HandsFree
i. Change SupportedFeatures to 45 (default is 1135)
ii. Add value HFBDA binary, set to same value as LastConnectedBda
iii. Add value HFDeviceType decimal 2
2. Modify the WIDCOMM bluetooth general settings:
HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\General
i. Change bdaddr to (no value)
ii. Change (or add if not there) DisableReopenAudio to 0 (default is 1)
3. Reboot device
You may also want to do the A2DP quality registry edit: Add a DWORD value of LineSpeed to HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\AV\ with a value of 320.
Give it a try, it may work for you.
I will give this a try and report back. Thank you very much for the response!
No luck. And my bdaddr keeps resetting to a binary value when I reset the phone
Okay so, I have read a couple of threads that somewhat touch base on my issue, however are not specific to my phone so I thought I would drill down to the subject matter in a new thread.
I just got a new SGS2E4GT yesterday as a replacement for my EVO4G. So far I love it, however when I paired it into my vehicle's (2011 Hyundai Elantra) bluetooth system, It connected to phone & media with no problem, but did not download the contact book.
Is there a fix, setting, or something I am missing within the SGS24E4GT?
I guess the thing that is a bit perturbing to me is that my good ol EVO had no issues whatsoever with pairing up.....
One option you might try is to remove pairing from both devices.
Then try to re-pair them.
I have a parrot CK-3100 BT setup in my truck and the first pairing didnt go well.
Removed it and re-did it. It asked me to allow access to my phone book. It was an option i had to check and after that its worked every time.
Also, check with the vehicle manufacturer and see if any software updates are available for your BT device in your vehicle.
It might not be an issue with the Epic Tocuch but with the other device playing nicely with the Touch.
Thanks very much. Will do as soon as I get out of work tonight
Bluetooth cuts in and out when connected to 2 devices (car's "phone" and "media")
I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus on stock Jellybean, and bluetooth streaming works great in my car (Chevy Sonic) until I also connect the "phone" connection. When it's connected, the music cuts in and out constantly. Phone calls seem to do the same thing if "media" is connected.
If I kill 1 connection, the other works great. Is this a Galaxy Nexus problem or Jellybean? I've tried stock, franco's, trinity, etc kernels but I'm guessing this won't matter (since the source was JUST released for JB).
Does anyone else pair to multiple BT devices simultaneously? Do you have issues?
I just came from an iPhone 4S, and it paired nicely with both connections without them cutting out. I hope this is something I can get working because I use both functions all the time.
Thanks!
I connect to 2 devices in my truck and it actually seems to work better since installing Jelly Bean. On ICS I had a similar problem. My truck connects via the "phone" profile and I connect to a bluetooth adapter for the "media" profile. I could use either of them independently without a problem, but with both connected, my call quality was awful and my music would cut out periodically. I believe that the truck "phone" profile was disconnecting and reconnecting every couple minutes as I would see the display on my truck indicate that a bluetooth device had just connected.
Since installing JB, that behavior seems to have stopped. I can't say for sure as I haven't driven very much yet since installing it, but early testing seems to indicate the problem has gone away. I know this doesn't help in your situation, but I did want to share my experience as it was similar to yours.
I have probably not so unique situation.
My Honda allows for calling via bluetooth but not audio streaming. I use an old Blackberry Gateway for that which works perfectly when I had my Samsung S2.
With the Note, the BB Gateway connects and streams audio fine but the car cannot maintain a constant connection at the same time.
I use A2DP volume (which is pretty awesome for free) to force connection attempts. If the BB gateway is not connected, the car maintains its connection. It seems the Note2 cannot do both.
Does anyone have similar problems or a work around? Or maybe know if the new leaked update fixes this? I heard it does update something about BT...
I'm stock rooted BTW
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I have probably not so unique situation.
My Honda allows for calling via bluetooth but not audio streaming. I use an old Blackberry Gateway for that which works perfectly when I had my Samsung S2.
With the Note, the BB Gateway connects and streams audio fine but the car cannot maintain a constant connection at the same time.
I use A2DP volume (which is pretty awesome for free) to force connection attempts. If the BB gateway is not connected, the car maintains its connection. It seems the Note2 cannot do both.
Does anyone have similar problems or a work around? Or maybe know if the new leaked update fixes this? I heard it does update something about BT...
I'm stock rooted BTW
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I'm having the same problem. I have a 2006 Pontiac GTO with a Kenwood touch screen and my Note 2 will connect fine, and it will stay connected with no issues until I switch to another playlist, artist, or song. That's when it seems to just disconnect itself and then, about 30 seconds later, reconnect itself.
I've tested this on stock unrooted (LJ1 and LJC), stock rooted (LJC and LK8), Jellybomb v10.2 and v11 (LJC), and H20 beta's 2.1 and 3.1 (LK8) with no luck. I also just recently started trying to use A2DP volume and it definitely helped with displaying the correct song name, artist and album (it wasn't changing when the song would change prior to using A2DP) so it's definitely an improvement but...
Considering how much I drive and how much I LOVE music this is becoming an area of major concern. If any of the amazing developers, or anybody for that matter, has any words of wisdom, suggestions, fixes, etc. it would be HUGELY appreciated.
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I'm having the same problem. I have a 2006 Pontiac GTO with a Kenwood touch screen and my Note 2 will connect fine, and it will stay connected with no issues until I switch to another playlist, artist, or song. That's when it seems to just disconnect itself and then, about 30 seconds later, reconnect itself.
I've tested this on stock unrooted (LJ1 and LJC), stock rooted (LJC and LK8), Jellybomb v10.2 and v11 (LJC), and H20 beta's 2.1 and 3.1 (LK8) with no luck. I also just recently started trying to use A2DP volume and it definitely helped with displaying the correct song name, artist and album (it wasn't changing when the song would change prior to using A2DP) so it's definitely an improvement but...
Considering how much I drive and how much I LOVE music this is becoming an area of major concern. If any of the amazing developers, or anybody for that matter, has any words of wisdom, suggestions, fixes, etc. it would be HUGELY appreciated.
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I'm having similar problems with certain roms. Only my truck is a Chevy not Honda. Using blackberry audio gateway. The "Note Card 2.2" rom works perfect for me, along with JellyBomb. I didn't like JellyBomb. I want to switch to another. I need to spend time and found out what is different between the working and non-working Roms. I had the same problem with my EVO 4g. Some Roms worked perfect, others acted up.
I have a new Fire Phone running the stock Fire OS 4.6.1, rooted and with Google Play Store Installed.
My vehicle is a 2007 Chrysler Town & Country with the UConnect feature built in. I have successfully paired my phone already.
The main issue is that I have to manually connect every time I get in the car. After I leave the car or the car is turned off, it disconnects as expected, just never reconnects automatically.
I just switched over from an iPhone 4 and this is a major inconvenience. WIth the iPhone it just worked. If I was on a call and got in the car, it would automatically switch over to bluetooth UConnect and come over the cars audio system.
Is there anyway to make this work properly? I have seen a couple apps in the Play Store that seem to state they can fix this, but I am a little weary of them. Like Bluetooth Auto Connect
Does anyone have any experience with this app or have any other general advice on this? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I did also check this thread with no real luck http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312576
drewb0y said:
I have a new Fire Phone running the stock Fire OS 4.6.1, rooted and with Google Play Store Installed.
My vehicle is a 2007 Chrysler Town & Country with the UConnect feature built in. I have successfully paired my phone already.
The main issue is that I have to manually connect every time I get in the car. After I leave the car or the car is turned off, it disconnects as expected, just never reconnects automatically.
I just switched over from an iPhone 4 and this is a major inconvenience. WIth the iPhone it just worked. If I was on a call and got in the car, it would automatically switch over to bluetooth UConnect and come over the cars audio system.
Is there anyway to make this work properly? I have seen a couple apps in the Play Store that seem to state they can fix this, but I am a little weary of them. Like Bluetooth Auto Connect
Does anyone have any experience with this app or have any other general advice on this? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I did also check this thread with no real luck http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312576
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Does your car have multiple ways to connect a device to the car's stereo via Bluetooth? According to this post, using the steering wheel/voice commands makes a difference versus using the stereo's dials. Another post mentioning the same issue and fix for other phones and cars: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6760095