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I've seen a lot of dialers for google voice, but is anyone working on a visual voicemail app for it? I tried one, but it just crashed my phone.
Something simple would be nice in the format:
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Sorry can't post pics yet because of site restrictions.
Should open quickly with stored login. Should only download the message when the play button is pressed to a specified folder in options and then automatically play in background. Also should be an option to limit to display the last n messages, because some of our google voice accounts are quite full. Messages should be displayed from most recent whether they have already been read or not.
Anything like that? Ah, that would be nice. I'm sure many of us would chip in towards its development.
I suppose that if people would be willing to chip in some contributions ($$) to me, I could take on this task for the people....
I hate being that guy who wants the money, but if you look at what I have done, I have done quite a bit for free, and am still doing quite a bit....
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I suppose that if people would be willing to chip in some contributions ($$) to me, I could take on this task for the people....
I hate being that guy who wants the money, but if you look at what I have done, I have done quite a bit for free, and am still doing quite a bit....
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that would be cool, but how the heck do i get on google voice? anyone willing to shoot me an invite? [email protected]......
Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I suppose that if people would be willing to chip in some contributions ($$) to me, I could take on this task for the people....
I hate being that guy who wants the money, but if you look at what I have done, I have done quite a bit for free, and am still doing quite a bit....
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How much to get this started? I often donate but it's normally a pittance compared to the work. However, a GOOD gvoice app would be great. Any that I have seen are a shame...
The amount of $$ i get 'committed' to this project will determine its quality. I am not asking for some obnoxiously large amount, just a little something. Of course it would take me a little bit of time to read up on, and understand any API's or code i need to interface with GVoice, so if you want me to dev it, don't be super-pushy on a quick quick release date. Plus, if I dev this app, you get my promise to provide updates, fixes, etc. as they are needed (and since this will be for $$, it will take priority over my other Apps).
With that being said, I am off to research GVoice API's and the likes...
Okay,
So after some researching, I CAN make this application happen. I would like if there could be some sort of pledge of donations I could get upon completing this (as I will continue to update it to make it better)...seeing as I am engaged in a couple of projects now, but if nobody really wants to donate, I can add this to my ToDo and do it when i finish up everything else i am engaged with...
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that would be cool, but how the heck do i get on google voice? anyone willing to shoot me an invite? [email protected]......
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Well, I'm definitely in for the donation! Just got my tax return.
I see there is a bit of interest in an app of this sort.
Thank you, Cyclonezephyrxz7 for volunteering your time. I'm going to check out some of your other projects.
I have done my research (like i mentioned prior), and I have done some coding...and I have a sort-of-beta working...but I do not plan on beta testing or releasing yet as it is GUI-less and limited in functionality...In due time I will release a beta/proof-of-concept version that will provide some functionality...If people are satisfied with it then (and want the extra features)..if I get donations I can release a fuller version sooner....but as I said, it is currently on the end-ish of my to-do list (which is a decent size)
Made a small donation to help in developing this.
Also encourage others to do the same. The main part is the voicemails and checking through the phone browser is a bit inconvenient. Hopefully this project can get some steam and move up the to-do-list.
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Made a small donation to help in developing this.
Also encourage others to do the same. The main part is the voicemails and checking through the phone browser is a bit inconvenient. Hopefully this project can get some steam and move up the to-do-list.
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I'm working on a project to handle this, take a look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671086
I hate to be that guy begging for invites but I'll definitely donate if I could get a google voice invite as well. Heck I'd pay for an invite without the new project hah.
email is [email protected]
Appreciate it!
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I hate to be that guy begging for invites but I'll definitely donate if I could get a google voice invite as well. Heck I'd pay for an invite without the new project hah.
email is [email protected]
Appreciate it!
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Ive sent you an invite to the email you mentioned ive got 2 left and would love to donate them to anyone that might be able to give sl4sher a hand on the app hes developing at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671086
Still no luck! PM me if ya need someone to help test any progress you make.
I'd give invites to those helping to get this project completed, but unfortunately google still hasn't given me any.
Sorry I didn't see your thread earlier, Sl4sher. Seems pretty close to what I had in mind. I'll download it and try it out. Haven't heard anything back from Cyclonezephyrxz7.
Sorry for the lack of updates...It has been sort of a hectic week around me...
Anywho, I have the program functions 90% working, and I am building a compelling and easy-to-use GUI...I am working on both a SmartPhone and PPC release, I just have to get some testing done, and I will be releasing this...Just hold tight.
*I'll try my best to have it done by the end of the weekend, and ready for testers, but if I take past wednesday of next week, there may be some delay as I will be out of state for that weekend....I'll try my best to beat this time-frame though.*
Thanks for the update. Been using Sl4sher's, but I dislike not having the play button on the first page, as well as no contact name or play length. Also some errors in there.
Looking forward to testing out your release. Enjoy your vacation!
****Last Day*****
Since money motivates some I'm starting a pledge thread for the DEV who roots an OTA stock version of Froyo on the EVO. For folks who are going to pledge here, please be serious and adhere to giving in the dollar or euro amount you are pledging. Understand these folks are doing this stuff on their free-time and with the money being offered we are hoping it will put a little more focus on getting this initiative completed sooner rather then later.
At minimum I am hoping for:
hboot.93 hack
Root Stock OTA Froyo 2.2 with Super User
Wifi Tether working
Everything else can stay the same in the ROM.
Once a Developer produces such an image with install instructions and is verified working, then those who pledge will insert funds to to the developer's Paypal account within 24 hours. Should be pretty simple. Again if you pledge, be a man or woman or your word and give this person what they earned.
I'm STARTING out with my pledge of $50 U.S. Dollars. Good luck!
**** Based on a Suggestion Going to include a deadline of 8/20 for the project to be completed to be eligible for the funds ***
Finally should a DEVELOPER decide they don't want the money, whatever is pledged here will be given to the XDA website donation link. And Please keep this to pledge donation amount replies.
(To admin, please make a sticky if possible)
Well it was a good attempt. I want to thank all of those who actually "PLEDGED" money and did not come to this thread to complain about the reasons why we put this pledge together.
For those that are stuck, I think it's time we face the music and consider one of two options:
Continue to Wait. (It's been 17 days since the release of OTA Froyo and no known exploit has been found)
Start looking at another device
I've decided to cut my looses and pre-order on an EPIC. It has been a pleasure being on the EVO side of the XDA forums. I wish the best of luck to everyone here and I hope one day root is achieved and that new bootloader is defeated.
Cheers
Never mind, the other thread is for an updated PRI for rooted phones.
By all means start a new thread.
I thought about starting a similar thread. Many developers have already put a lot of effort into solving this without monetary motivation. The only way I see this helping is if an HTC/Sprint person with access we don't have, helps out. The brightest minds in this community (dare I say anywhere) are already working hard on it. That, or maybe a non-Evo developer will start, but prob doubtful. Either way, $25 to support this. Save me from my stupidity/nonroot hell!
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Since I am chronically impatient and therefore Dl'd the OTA I will throw down $10. Sorry I can't contribute more, new father here.
I can scrape together another $25 for the effort.
the price of one months tether
$30
So then are you guys planning on paying unrevoked tonight?
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So then are you guys planning on paying unrevoked tonight?
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maybe you should go read again. you need to have a rooted phone already.
Somehow, I don't think that it's the lack of a monetary award that’s keeping the 2.2 root from happening. Normally, bounties are used for issues that nobody’s really working on, or for issues that have been worked on for some time, but are exceedingly difficult. What you’re doing here is setting a precedent where devs will be racing against each other to be first out the door with something that they’re all already working on, to win a monetary reward. I don’t know if that kind of precedent is a good idea.
2.2 root will happen, just be patient.
BTW, I’m no dev, so I can't speak for them, I'm just a member of the xda community. It just makes me a bit uncomfortable to see these kinds of threads. And that’s also not to say that the devs don’t deserve every dollar – they do! They kick ass in every way, shape and form. So maybe when they do root 2.2, send them a donation. But the reason I’ve been coming here since way back when I had the HTC Kaiser (although I only joined up when I got my Evo, I've been lurking here for years), is for the community and the people. Specifically people helping people, just to be helpful, and because they can, because they have the knowledge, and to show what can be done when the corporate locks are removed from a device so that it's capabilities are only limited to the coding skills of the dev, and the imagination of the community. Not for the money. To be frank, I think that if we keep going down this direction, we’ll all be worse off, and xda may change – and not for the better.
Just my $0.02, so take it for what it's worth.
And get off my lawn! Sorry - the above came out with a much more doom and gloom attitude than what I had intended. Didn’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade. ;-)
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Somehow, I don't think that it's the lack of a monetary award that’s keeping the 2.2 root from happening. Normally, bounties are used for issues that nobody’s really working on, or for issues that have been worked on for some time, but are exceedingly difficult. What you’re doing here is setting a precedent where devs will be racing against each other to be first out the door with something that they’re all already working on, to win a monetary reward. I don’t know if that kind of precedent is a good idea.
2.2 root will happen, just be patient.
BTW, I’m no dev, so I can't speak for them, I'm just a member of the xda community. It just makes me a bit uncomfortable to see these kinds of threads. And that’s also not to say that the devs don’t deserve every dollar – they do! They kick ass in every way, shape and form. So maybe when they do root 2.2, send them a donation. But the reason I’ve been coming here since way back when I had the HTC Kaiser (although I only joined up when I got my Evo, I've been lurking here for years), is for the community and the people. Specifically people helping people, just to be helpful, and because they can, because they have the knowledge, and to show what can be done when the corporate locks are removed from a device so that it's capabilities are only limited to the coding skills of the dev, and the imagination of the community. Not for the money. To be frank, I think that if we keep going down this direction, we’ll all be worse off, and xda may change – and not for the better.
Just my $0.02, so take it for what it's worth.
And get off my lawn! Sorry - the above came out with a much more doom and gloom attitude than what I had intended. Didn’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade. ;-)
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I totally respect your view and agree that it should not be a money race. Open source is a beautiful thing and that is what I love about this platform. Developers craft their skill and share with others because they have a passion for what they do and not because they want to make money.
Once in a while though we should honor them for what it is they do and since the release of Froyo, it saddens me to read postings from individuals who are mocking people who upgraded their phone via OTA though there were warnings about it, lets face it, Froyo is an enticing update and unfortunately some folks jumped on it. But I also believe that there are a fare amount of people here who either recently purchased the phone or was in the middle of a warranty issue that ended up with an OTA'd Froyo and because these individuals want to mock and make these assumptions, it could be perceived that the only people who are begging for a root are the ones who OTA'd by choice. Regardless on how everyone got to OTA Froyo, we are here now and are patiently waiting for a workaround.
So in the hopes of offering in incentive not only to the fine work of developers here at XDA, but to help those of us who are stuck in limbo, I started this pledge to help get this initiative going.
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Somehow, I don't think that it's the lack of a monetary award that’s keeping the 2.2 root from happening. ~snip~ Didn’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade. ;-)
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Agreed, so consider my contribution a donation to whoever roots this beast.
You can put me down for $20.00. Im in a slightly different boat than everyone else. My phone already had 2.2 on it when I picked it up. I dont know if it was that way out of the box or if one of the nice Sprint employees was kind enough to upgrade it for me. I paid for the phone/service when the store opened but didnt come back for the phone until after lunch because they needed to port the number, paperwork, etc and I didnt have time to wait.
That being said, I bought a bunch of software for my N1 which is now useless as I dont have root and Id really like to have that stuff back working again.
it's unfortunate that an open-source community, where devs work with free software, needs to resort to money to motivate people. i understand that there are devs out there who will do this for free because they enjoy doing it for free (so not all devs need money for motivation), but lets be real. you're promoting an environment where open source also means "but not for free".
there's no doubt that there are very very very talented devs here and maybe they do deserve some money. but what happens when they start thinking, "hmmm, if people are willing to pay just for root, I wonder what they'll pay for my services?"
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you're promoting an environment where open source also means "but not for free".[/I]"
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Open Source doesn't mean the devs are working for free. If they want to sell their services then only those willing to pay shall receive such services. It is totally up to the devs.
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Open Source doesn't mean the devs are working for free. If they want to sell their services then only those willing to pay shall receive such services. It is totally up to the devs.
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+1
Also, just because people are offering a bounty, doesn't mean that's why the devs are doing it. Like I said before, bounty or no bounty, someone will find a way to root froyo, and when that happens, I doubt that they'll have done it for the money.
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Ok much better...
Should a developer decide that they don't want the money for their work, then what ever funds we have collected here, we'll donate it to the XDA forum paypal account to keep to site running. In either case the money will go to a good cause.
There needs to be a deadline tho. If not..it means it can be a year from now and still collect. I'd say by next Friday. A simple root will do, we can hold off for nand unlock. Atleast with simple root we can still tether which is what we mostly want.
Put me down for $20! I'm a newb with all this. Came over from the jailbreak world just last week. Can someone give me a heads up on how I donate the money once the root is released? Do these devs usually have pay pal donation function on there sites?
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I've been seeing a lot more interest lately from the XDA community regarding Azure and figure it is worth starting a thread to try to answer some basic questions.
First, I'll be up front with everyone...BizSpark is my day job, I work for Microsoft and technology evangelism is my passion. I can think of few things more exciting than what the Cloud is going to bring to the market through mobile device in the next few years. We know who's going to be on the front lines of driving this innovation: you are. So let's answer those questions:
How does someone get Azure for free through BizSpark?
Sign up for a BizSpark account hereThis is the updated site that offers information: BizSpark Azure.
Deal is, you sign up for the introductory offer (free), set your subscription to (not “Auto Renew”), and then after 16 months sign up for the BizSpark Azure (Again, free) for the end of your agreement.
Who qualifies?
Yes, there are qualifications, but pretty much anyone who cares enough about software development to be reading this sub-forumon XDA will qualify. If you are actively developing software, you aren't developing this project for a publicly traded company, your project/startup is less than three years old and is making less than US $1M annually, you qualify. That simple.
What other products can I get?
BizSpark pretty much gives you a premier MSDN account for three years, so if it is on MSDN, you can use it. Dfinitly everything you car about: Visual Studio, all of the Expressions products, etc.
Many products have stipulations that they be used for development purposes only, but Azure, Server, SQL, etc can be used in production, meaning you can go live, host your product and try to make some money with it.
Can I get a free AppHub developer account, too?
No, but there's always hope...
Why is Microsoft giving their stuff away for free?
Because there should be no excuses for startup developers to not have access to the best software development tools on the planet.
If you have any questions, feel free to PM me or send me an email through the board.
I thought this could be a cool idea so I applied, and got denied about 6 hours later. The email told me I do not qualify and to look into Dreamspark or a MSDN account.
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I thought this could be a cool idea so I applied, and got denied about 6 hours later. The email told me I do not qualify and to look into Dreamspark or a MSDN account.
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let me try and see...
I applied, but...my company is older than three years, but has only done software dev for one year. Hopefully I'll be allowed in, but not holding my breath. Might actually still be cheaper to create a new company and apply via that
Anyone having problems, contact me directly:
kenikh at microsoft dot com
Cheers! Will do
For those weary about bizspark, it is a great thing for start ups. There are other things that come with it... not just free software. I am glad someone from MSFT is here to talk about it. You do need to be less than 3 years old and make less than a million dollars in revenue in a year -- which is always the case for most startups.
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kenikh said:
Sign up for a BizSpark account hereThis is the updated site that offers information: BizSpark Azure.
Deal is, you sign up for the introductory offer (free), set your subscription to (not “Auto Renew”), and then after 16 months sign up for the BizSpark Azure (Again, free) for the end of your agreement.
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BizSpark site is temporarily down
will try whe it goes live again
I thought it was the project OR company
"your project/startup is less than three years old "
I'll give it a try anyway.
Thanks for the info.
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Didn't qualify. They didn't say why, but my company is older than 3 years.
Too bad, so sad, back to work!
Oh yea, Shout out to the XDA community. I've enjoyed lurking her for years now. Lots of beautiful things and creative ideas. Thanks so very much!!!
Site is up: http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/
I've been slow to reply to PMs, but will try to get through the backlog today.
Giving it a try now. I'm hardly a "company" or "start-up", but I write software and have a couple of projects that I would like to begin working with .Net for. Also, the idea of a premier MSDN account is a nice idea. It's like high school all over again, just trying to get some acceptance .
giving it a try now, this would be sweet considering I am developing a word search game.
Signed up yesterday, and PM sent. This would be fantastic.
kenikh said:
Anyone having problems, contact me directly:
kenikh at microsoft dot com
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Giving it a try now. I'm hardly a "company" or "start-up", but I write software and have a couple of projects that I would like to begin working with .Net for. Also, the idea of a premier MSDN account is a nice idea. It's like high school all over again, just trying to get some acceptance .
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It's better than high school, I just got my acceptance email this morning. I'm all signed up and rocking. Good lookin' out. I appreciate the heads up. Now to code something .
Thank you for sharing this with the community. I applied for an account and recieved a reply back saying that I did not meet all the eligibility requirments at this time.
I am 4ever gratefull! This will help ALOT!
Got accepted just finishing configuring my push notifications server in the cloud!
Really amazing offer thanks for pointing me to it and the help via email very very very much appreciated
Hello everyone,
There is a known issue that most cloud share sites like dropbox and box.net loose sharing due to bandwidth allocation issues.. with that said, I have a offer for you if you need to share development files here.
I am a technology solutions provider for the whole region where I live, (in the united states) and I offer you my personal site http://hazard1nc.com it has limited bandwidth for now, but the more people sign up for accounts using my link provided in the first post on my site, you will notice that it says it will give me more features, theses features include bandwidth and more storage, its my dream ultimately to self host but due to new baby being born and taking care of 6 people hinder such dreams for now.
So if you need storage and bandwidth, I rarely use my site as I'm busy running my business and being a family man, if I can help out with this, I'd be happy to do so! So thanks for reading and I hope that this can help you.
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Are you offering housing space for development?
I am offering a place to share, I don't have much to offer in terms of anyway to have a CVS repo or anything, but I am offering a place to put your final test projects for members both here and there to test on. If it was self hosted (money issues) I'd offer what more I could.
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Hell if you can make the site work for development purposes and give me feedback on plugins and such that I should add, I'd be happy to listen.
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I am offering a place to share, I don't have much to offer in terms of anyway to have a CVS repo or anything, but I am offering a place to put your final test projects for members both here and there to test on. If it was self hosted (money issues) I'd offer what more I could.
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If it's a money making site then I'm afraid that isn't allowed here on XDA.
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Its not about making money, I am doing it out of the kindness of my heart and funding it myself. I just said that I don't have the funds currently.
I won't turn away donations, the site itself was just a way to share my tech interests with my local community freely offering tips and tricks for their computer needs as I am the only technology consultant around for 100 miles.
In reality, I just don't have time, I was going to post my local services on a page but if that makes it bad for helping people here then I won't
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hazard1nc said:
Its not about making money, I am doing it out of the kindness of my heart and funding it myself. I just said that I don't have the funds currently.
I won't turn away donations, the site itself was just a way to share my tech interests with my local community freely offering tips and tricks for their computer needs as I am the only technology consultant around for 100 miles.
In reality, I just don't have time, I was going to post my local services on a page but if that makes it bad for helping people here then I won't
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Would you happen to be able to give Team Aurora (ItsMeBdon, Shawn, me) a part of your site where we can upload? We're nearing our Dropbox limit and don't really have any other options :|
Thanks!
I kinda jumped before looking, id be happy to assist but my host caps uploads at 8mb if you can keep it in that range I'd be happy to, I'm looking for another host and might have found one, keep in touch with me and I will do my best. I gotta make sure they don't cap my uploads to the server but I'd be happy to once I get the right host
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Aquethys said:
Would you happen to be able to give Team Aurora (ItsMeBdon, Shawn, me) a part of your site where we can upload? We're nearing our Dropbox limit and don't really have any other options :|
Thanks!
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As far as that goes, there are many hosts out there, I'll compile a list if you want, I am a tech consultant and solutions provider so its in my nature to do this just gimme a few or let me figure out my upload limitations I will get this all sorted and once done we will be in business
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Okay guys I'm sorry it took me so long, I found a new host but can't take my domain with just yet to it.. not going into details why, but if you want me to host your projects, I will be happy to do so.
I am also surprised that none of you share bigger files like roms and such on bittorrent.. would seem more ideal to share this way and its more safe as it uses hashes to piece the app back together.. anyways that's not the point.
I have a list of numerous different share sites and cloud technologies on this page here.
Most note worthy of the cloud servers would have to be ADrive.com giving away 50gb storage for free for banners, and as long as you set your hosts files just right, you don't even see a single banner or ad, I haven't yet anyways.
I just hope that this helps everyone who working on these projects and I will do my best to keep these site lists current for you and add more as we go along.
I am just sorry it took me so long to get setup, my wife about to give birth any day now, my 4th and its been mad hectic with work and steess, but the site is down right now on the new host and will be for a couple weeks.
Thank you all for being patient and I will get this going for you, I'll put up polls and such so you can help me make the site better for your needs in this way..
Anyways, busy times for me ahead,will try to pop in when I can yo test for those who need a tester, but gonna be hectic more so for a few months, will keep updated on the sites progress and will need some help testing that when able, sign up for that when its more close to the end, maybe a couple weeks more, at the latest.
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Honestly, I'm very glad that people don't host their roms via bittorrent, as it's a nightmare for anyone who's looking to snag something for an older phone. I often find myself in possession of old android hardware, and I repurpose them for VoIP phones or other misc. With older hardware, it's often unbearably slow on the official rom, and the best solution is to track down something custom.
I just spent like 4 hours tracking down a rom for the Huawei Ascend M860, over half of the links were dead, and an entire site where a large portion of the development took place had folded because of the age of the device. With torrents, it's easy for something less popular like an older device to lose what few seeds it had, while a reliable mirror site will at least be up for reasonable amount of time.
Hi all, it appears that Mike Reid, the developer of the original FOSS Android Auto Head Unit app, has sadly passed away.
We are continuing the development in a new app, which we call the OpenHU Project. It stands for Open Head Unit.
Just want to address some one concern that some have already raised: OpenHU will continue to be fully open source under GPL, forever.
The only thing that may change is that we are trying to get permission from Mike Reid's family to relicense under GPLv2, as Mike had intended to permit those uses personally - and he obviously can't anymore.
Learn More: http://console.com.co/openhu/
Wiki: http://wiki.console.com.co/w/OpenHU
GitHub: https://github.com/iConsole/OpenHU
$10,000 Bounty Details: http://wiki.console.com.co/w/Console_Developer_Rewards
Finally - we are offering a $10,000 bounty, as the first full round of our Console Developer Rewards initiative. We had previously planned to focus on Android for x86, but Intel and Android were on troubled waters at the time... so we didn't fully launch it. In the wake of Mike's passing, we felt the best thing to do was focus on this effort.
As you may have heard, some recent changes to GMS (Google Play Services) broke Mike's app. But we are already hard at work, and you can win a portion (or all) of the $10,000 by helping us fix it!
Reserved
Reserved for future use...
Hi all, some good news, continuing from the old thread. Mike was persistently doing battle with a private Google file, libsslwrapper.so. It's part of GMS. As you can see in the source code for OpenHU, when searching for this file, Mike left several hooks for swapping in old versions, in order to A/B test.
By replacing that file with the old version (from GMS 9.0), it appears we can use OpenHU with GMS 9.2.56!
Unfortunately, this is only a partial fix, one Google could break at any time, so the bounty continues. We need to identify what broke with the latest changes.
But this is good news because we can isolate the problem to an SSL link between OpenSSL and the libsslwrapper.so file. Now, we need the community's help the most - because we don't have SSL engineers on-staff. Don't count on us to fix this, we need all-hands here.
Full instructions on how to swap libsslwrapper.so with the old version (via ADB, sans root) will be posted shortly.
How about instead of paying someone $10,000 for a future scam project you use that $10,000 to refund the backers you ripped off from your other scam you still haven't delivered on nearly 3 years later: Console OS.
You still have t-shirts and physical goods to deliver as well. You have $10,000 to throw around for this though.....
Truly a piece of work.
So this money is coming from the ConsoleOS funds? Did you know that the front page of android-x86.org calls you out as a scammer?
Christopher Price said:
We had previously planned to focus on Android for x86, but Intel and Android were on troubled waters at the time... so we didn't fully launch it.
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You did fully launch it. Twice. No one bit the first time because they knew better. You changed the submission date. Still no one bit. Oh, let me guess. It was yet another "soft launch"?
Also, where did the 10,000 dollars come from? You've said for months you've had no money to refund backers and you and your "team" had been living on less than minimum wage for a couple years now. You also said you could only afford refunds if you sold the rebranded Teclast hardware that you've announced but have provided zero details about so far. Wait...
"Similarly, we reserve the right to substitute devices, or provide refurbished devices if necessary for fulfillment."
There will be no cash. You'll give away old hardware and deduct the MSRP from the 10,000 cash promise. That's if you ever manage to give away anything at all.
I think anyone thinking about participating has to right to know explicitly where the money is coming from and please don't say "industry partners."
What's funny is your "continued development" of this project is the exact same thing you did with ConOS, grab code that someone else wrote, try to find other people to fix the issues for you, and then sell that for profit.
Intel and Android-x86 wrote Console OS' code, and now you're taking Mike Reid's code. Maybe you should stop taking other people's work and make something yourself. I mean, you have developers in Paris and a team to help you....right? Or is the extent of your "collective" coding knowledge changing names and lines on The GitHub?
But let's not kid ourselves. There is no team, no we. It's been you all along, just you.
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I've reopened this thread... but a word of advice.
Please keep things on-topic and civil here because I don't want to have to return for cleanups or the like.
Also, I've left the recent posts in the thread but I don't want such posts continuing... You've had your say so now leave it alone.
Thanks.
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I will respect the moderators and only focus on OpenHU in this thread. Please leave it there, thanks, this is not an appropriate place to discuss Console OS.
We did not "take" any code from Intel, it was licensed fully. Similarly, Console was working with Mike Reid up to the day he went to hospital. All this code in this project is licensed under GPL. OpenHU will remain under GPL. Period. You cannot steal GPL code if you use it under GPL.
As to the terms of CDR, we never even launched a bounty previously. The claims above that we did, are false. We halted such efforts after Intel informed us Android on IA may be halted. See the OP for a true/correct history. We will pay every penny of Console Developer Rewards, and it will be pretty darn clear if we don't.
We stated in the revision history that we are using cash only based on feedback - there will be no gadget giveaways (in this round, though as stated - future CDR rounds may use gadget rewards).
But again, this thread is for OpenHU. If you want to try and save the late Mike Reid's work, please contribute. If not, please leave.
As to the terms of CDR, we never even launched a bounty previously. The claims above that we did, are false. We halted such efforts after Intel informed us Android on IA may be halted.
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Funny.
From the December 25, 2015 Update:
Shortly after our Kickstarter ended, Intel suspended development of Android-IA for Intel Core processors. Later it extended this to all PC tablets as well. You will notice that Android-IA on Intel’s web site today only supports Minnowboard MAX - an IoT innovation board.
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and the title of the next update: Coming Next Month: Console Developer Rewards (on Jan 2, 2016)
and the one after that: Console Developer Rewards - The Details... Followed by Lollipop! (March 1, 2016) where:
Our first cycle for Console Developer Rewards will roll out publicly from March 2 to 31. When it does go live (on the 2nd), it will be available at Console.com.co/devrewards
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Sorry, I'm not going to engage. We never launched Console Developer Rewards. The first planned run March 1 was halted (and never introduced) due to Intel briefing us that they were planning to make major changes to their Android FOSS support. See: http://console.com.co/thoughts-on-chips/
We never offered any developer bounties prior to this one. No developer submitted code to us previously, with an expectation of being paid. This is our first go of it, and we'll pull out our credit cards to pay for it if need be. We want Mike's hard work to continue.
This is our first actual campaign for CDR. If you want to help save Mike Reid's work, contribute to that topic. All other topics are off-topic, and moderators have stated are prohibited. Please leave it there, thanks.
Christopher Price said:
As to the terms of CDR, we never even launched a bounty previously. The claims above that we did, are false. We halted such efforts after Intel informed us Android on IA may be halted.
We stated in the revision history that we are using cash only based on feedback - there will be no gadget giveaways (in this round, though as stated - future CDR rounds may use gadget rewards).
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No one claimed you launched a "bounty" specifically. You're playing semantics. We said you launched Console Developer Rewards, the program itself. You claimed you didn't launch the program itself fully and asuka has already posted the links that prove you did.
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The first planned run March 1 was halted (and never introduced) due to Intel briefing us that they were planning to make major changes to their Android FOSS support.
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Liar. "The first 30-day cycle of Console Developer Rewards will run March 21 through April 20. "
Quoted from: http://console.com.co/devrewards/
Why was it pushed back? From your own update:
"We met our self-imposted timetable to post terms, but we didn't give people enough time for feedback, and to properly inform the projects we plan to support.
We're moving back the first month of Console Developer Rewards to March 21, a week from today. This will give us time to have everything in-place and do it correctly."
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We stated in the revision history that we are using cash only based on feedback - there will be no gadget giveaways (in this round, though as stated - future CDR rounds may use gadget rewards).
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If you don't wanna discuss Console, fine. This project: your own page for the bounty of THIS project that YOU link to doesn't say this round is cash only. It says what I pasted, that gadgets can be substituted for cash, and the rules can change, at any time. But if you do want to use cash for THIS program (we're remaining on topic), again I ask, where is it coming from? You conveniently didn't address that at all in your reply.
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But if you do want to use cash for THIS program (we're remaining on topic), again I ask, where is it coming from? You conveniently didn't address that at all in your reply.
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Christopher Price said:
This is our first go of it, and we'll pull out our credit cards to pay for it if need be. We want Mike's hard work to continue.
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Ahem, asked and answered. I'm putting up the bounty money out of my own pocket.
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Ahem, asked and answered. I'm putting up the bounty money out of my own pocket.
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And this would a different pocket from the one that the ConsoleOS funds went into
Christopher Price said:
Ahem, asked and answered. I'm putting up the bounty money out of my own pocket.
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Hey, why don't you be a man and take that same $10,000 to refund the couple thousand Kickstarter backers you shafted?
Or better yet, take that $10,000 and deliver the physical rewards you promised. Remember this post you made on May 13?: https://twitter.com/iConsole/status/731224776815992832
"Finally slaying spam demons is just one of the things we've checked off this week. Next up, perk shipments for #ConsoleOS. Then new stuff!"
That's almost 2 months ago. You still need to fulfill your campaign obligations before beginning another vaporware project of yours.
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And this would a different pocket from the one that the ConsoleOS funds went into
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PM me with your Kickstarter ID and I will investigate. Our last update made clear that our pivot to hardware will extend refund options to KS backers - or give them a credit towards our upcoming hardware.
We've committed to refunding people on Console OS. What more do you want?
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Ahem, asked and answered. I'm putting up the bounty money out of my own pocket.
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Out your own pocket...."if need be". So you post a 10,000 dollar bounty and only to reveal after being asked that you don't actually have it and will maybe have to put it on a credit card?
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Out your own pocket...."if need be". So you post a 10,000 dollar bounty and only to reveal after being asked that you don't actually have it and will maybe have to put it on a credit card?
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I don't see the point of the animus here. If Console can't come up with the money over the next 90 days, I'm personally promising to pull it off a credit card and back it myself.
That's not Kickstarter backer money, and we've offered to refund backers in our June 1 update. Edit: See our June 1 update if you are a backer - https://www.kickstarter.com/project...t-android-remastered-for-the-pc/posts/1592356
No KS funds from Console OS are being used here, period.
Please respect moderators wishes that discussion related to Console OS end with that. This is totally derailing the effort to salvage Mike's app... and if you think you can do better, please do.
Christopher Price said:
I don't see the point of the animus here. If Console can't come up with the money over the next 90 days, I'm personally promising to pull it off a credit card and back it myself.
That's not Kickstarter backer money, and we've offered to refund backers in our June 1 update.
No KS funds from Console OS are being used here, period.
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Questions about the money are on topic. Now here is the problem. The problem is you're asking people to do work with zero guarantee of payment. You've just admitted you don't have the money. They're supposed to go off your promise, given your history? Again, your own page says you don't have to give them any money at all. You can substitute hardware at any time.
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The problem is you're asking people to do work with zero guarantee of payment. You've just admitted you don't have the money. They're supposed to go off your promise, given your history? Again, your own page says you don't have to give them any money at all. You can substitute hardware at any time.
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Sorry. I'm trying to save this app. I will keep trying. If you don't consider it a trustworthy offer, that's up to you. I'm putting a personal guarantee on payment for code submitted within the time period stated on the CDR page for OpenHU (June 24 to August 31). Edit: Provided it actually fixes the issue - I hope the terms of the bounty are pretty clear.
We did have to put some legal terms in there, this is being run by a company. It is to a degree, arbitrary. It's FOSS code, and we are committing to paying in cash for this initial round. The gadget legalese was written prior. This round will be paid in cash.
If you have a better idea for reviving Mike Reid's app - please provide it. I welcome a better effort.