Hey All. I have been on a roller coaster with My Samsung Epic.
Recently I Finally from DK28 updated to Froyo for my Samsung Epic and flashed Viper trinity ROM on it. It was cool up until certain apps did not work well such as Tom the talking Cat and Hulu. Furthermore I rely heavily on my Sprint Navigator, which was Removed after the Viper ROM flash.
I tried to factory restore and reset but had no luck, my phone actually never was able to reset as from the Privacy reset through the Phones gui it would freeze, and if I did the -vol, camera, and power it still kept the viper ROM.
With out further reading I watched a youtube video and ended up using Odin 1.6 and reset it back to DG27. I tried to than only update to 2.2 Froyo without adding any fancy Roms but it failed to do so.
Thats when I read it could only be flashed forward if its DK28. Im suck now and cant get back to DK28. Ive tried Odin again with the SPH-D700-DK28-8Gb-Rel.Tar.MD5, and sometimes removing the .MD5 part.. but odin still gives me errors. ive been at this for the last 9 hours and could use some help, guidance and actual Links that are not broken or have a 404 error on them.
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Problem: Cannot use Odin to get back to DK28 and is stuck on DG27
Solution I want: To be able to take my crappy Samsung Epic and make it Epic with Froyo 2.2 so I can one click root it, installing Flash and Hulu.
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Thank you all!
You may want to Odin to DI18,and then going to EB13 either by an update.zip,or Samsungs tool,mini kies if I remeber right.Or you can try one of the current FROYO ROMs,EB13 based.
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should be able to ODIN right to EB13. look for that file and follow the steps. ODIN doesnt care about deltas etc... it writes to your phone regardless. then you can one click root and rock your custom ROM to get hulu going.
That would be nice.. but EB13 and DI18 I cannot find.. I have been looking for them and have come up with nothing. I have searched and most of the links are the stupid Gator link with 404page error.. Also the Stock roms are just impossible to find.. Im a hammer stroke away from caliming my phone was dropped and just getting a new one. I hae tried Odin3+V1.61 with Victory PIT and SPH-D700-DK28-8Gb-REL.tar.MD5 and without the MD5 and continue to get an error....
Please, Links and tutorials will be greatly helpful.
NVM. I found it. Took forever to find the right TARs and what not.. now I have to find a way to go from DI18 to DK28.. OTA update doesnt seem to work.. and warning out there, ViperTrinity Rom is slow and laggy.. Trying to watch Hulu is unwatchable and also a simple app like Tom the Talking Cat does not work well.. Laggy as a mother!
Why dk28? You should just go to eb13 anyway, laggy buggy issues are at least somewhat if not entirely because of dk28, it was a very buggy leak. Now that eb13 is out go to that, throw on a custom kernel if nothing else and you should be in much better shape.
I believe ptfdmedic's newest midnight rom has flashable zips to restore whatever stock sprint apps you might want. Ill see if I can find you links to all you'd need.
Edit: you should be able to use this and odin strait to eb13 froyo stock pre-rooted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
Still looking to see where it was that I found the sprint apps flashable zip that could be used if you went to a custom rom but wanted nav back.
Edit2: ptfdmedic does have a sprint apps edify zip on his site http://lostandtired.com/ under the android development section which I assume these work with EB13 if you were to go to a custom rom with them removed.
The ROM that I was actually thinking of was ecooce's new frankenstein rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982415 He has zips with all the removed apps so you can add back what you need.
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I tried to downgrade from EH17 to EC05 stock through Odin. I used the official tar first and then tried the plus tar. Neither would complete in odin and just hung; no error or fail. My Epic display however did turn blue on 2 occasions. I used the 1.6 and 1.8 odins and neither worked.
I then tried to flash back to the EH17 stock with root and that didn't work until like the 3rd try. Anybody have issues with going back to EC05 and is it worth the effort? I'm just bored and didn't have any issues whatsoever on the GB builds so based off of that....am I missing anything?
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I tried to downgrade from EH17 to EC05 stock through Odin. I used the official tar first and then tried the plus tar. Neither would complete in odin and just hung; no error or fail. My Epic display however did turn blue on 2 occasions. I used the 1.6 and 1.8 odins and neither worked.
I then tried to flash back to the EH17 stock with root and that didn't work until like the 3rd try. Anybody have issues with going back to EC05 and is it worth the effort? I'm just bored and didn't have any issues whatsoever on the GB builds so based off of that....am I missing anything?
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Sounds like your cable is going bad. Time for a heavy duty cable. I am using the one from my Palm Pre and works perfect everytime.
I moved to GB and never looked back. EH17 rebooted at least 2 times a day after the 4th day so ended up going back to EG22. The only issues that has is stock browser won't download from dropbox links so got another browser and alarm wouldn't play in silent mode so got Extreme Alarm. Don't know what advantage going back to EC05 would give you. Many go back because of the reboot issue and can't get decent GPS to work. I can still get 5 out 10 locks so will do for now. If you use GPS constantly for directions then EC05 was way superior.
Odin is Version 1.81, have had no issues with since I have been flashing!
Link for Odin:
http://www.multiupload.com/I6GVRDL0VK
Link for ECO5:
Froyo EC05 (do not extract this file)
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Here is link for EC05 file. It is part way down in Green Square, if you cannot see you have to sign up to download. Become a Member.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ep...68-how-factory-restore-fix-bricked-phone.html
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If you still want to downgrade, you might have to go down to DI18 or EB13 then update to EC05.
That is another Way to do it.
Need Help, Repost we can get you links if you cannot find them.
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I tried to downgrade from EH17 to EC05 stock through Odin. I used the official tar first and then tried the plus tar. Neither would complete in odin and just hung; no error or fail. My Epic display however did turn blue on 2 occasions. I used the 1.6 and 1.8 odins and neither worked.
I then tried to flash back to the EH17 stock with root and that didn't work until like the 3rd try. Anybody have issues with going back to EC05 and is it worth the effort? I'm just bored and didn't have any issues whatsoever on the GB builds so based off of that....am I missing anything?
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Flashing the sfr zip right over your gb leak (and also a kernel) works just fine. Ive done it on several occasions. Only issue I had was restoring data from a nandroid. Doing so would lock my epic into an upside down landscape view, so I had to rebuild from a clean install and just used some titanium backup restores sparingly.
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You know what's weird I had some issues going from EH17 to EC05 also... but I traced it down(hopefully) to a bad .tar (even though I succesfully odin'd at least 5 times with that same tar with all 5 previously being successful.
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If you wanted to do a clean install and you were already on EC05, would a factory reset (settings/Factory reset) be just as good or would you want to reinstall either the EC05 or original stock DI07 file and do OTAs? What's the advantage of one over the other?
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If you wanted to do a clean install and you were already on EC05, would a factory reset (settings/Factory reset) be just as good or would you want to reinstall either the EC05 or original stock DI07 file and do OTAs? What's the advantage of one over the other?
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You know, there are two different schools of thought on this. Some always go back and use the OTA updates and some never do. I used to go back to EB13 and take the OTA but now I just go straight to what I want. A custom ROM is going to replace everything anyway
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Yeah, I have been using the Factory Data reset a lot more. Then restore only apps, no data except what you must have. Phone always seems faster and smoother for awhile.
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Yeah, I have been using the Factory Data reset a lot more. Then restore only apps, no data except what you must have. Phone always seems faster and smoother for awhile.
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Thanks, another question, Factory Reset won't remove root or CWM will it?
Ive never had a problem going from EH17 or any other GB leak to EC05 but i have occasionally had issues with a bad USB cord or bad tar. Also going straight to whatever build you want might be better that OTA updates. As i recall there can be issues with OTA updates which can cause problems down the road. Of course thats just my personal opinion
Well my cable was bad but that did not help with flashing ROMS. I have been dloading from the device though so I will get fresh dloads from the PC.
On a side note, I used the SW tool and flashed back to EB13 then took the upgrade prompt back too EC05. Been rollin' stock just for kicks and I noticed that the stock ROM runs faster then it use to but the graphics in the GUI get a little stuttery here and there. The scrolling and gallery interface are where it is most noticable.
I can't wait till they start letting employees get the Epic touch.....
Gorguts said:
Well my cable was bad but that did not help with flashing ROMS. I have been dloading from the device though so I will get fresh dloads from the PC.
On a side note, I used the SW tool and flashed back to EB13 then took the upgrade prompt back too EC05. Been rollin' stock just for kicks and I noticed that the stock ROM runs faster then it use to but the graphics in the GUI get a little stuttery here and there. The scrolling and gallery interface are where it is most noticable.
I can't wait till they start letting employees get the Epic touch.....
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Did you do Data&Dalvik wipe three times prior to going into EC05?
Alright so I actually rely on the sprint TEP app after having lost a phone on vacation that would have been located very easily had I had it, it was found anyways but I never got it back.
On EK02 all variations and flavors from stock to really customized the application worked fine. All the leaks, stock rooted and custom rom the apps gps doesnt working giving the message to turn it on and it doesnt work at all. All other GPS stuff works fine. I went back to EK02 and let it OTA to EL29. It gives the message but works fine... I was going to go back to EL29 rooted with the onetouch Odin i had already tried to day but...
The application obviously needs some updating but the real reason i decided to go through making this post is my ODIN land adventure that scared the crap out of me.
I tested roms the usual cwm way until deciding to go EK02. I used sfhubs EK02 onetouch ODIN (after having used other versions just fine) and then used the other app he has todo the EK02 > EL29 check. I thought it was fine but maybe I was wrong? Update went without a hitch and continued my testing.
Anyways word of warning if you go digging without a direction like I was. I couldn't ODIN any of the one touches after that. They all failed hanging on Setup Connection I believe. I went back to regular ODIN so I could choose what I was flashing and threw the old EG30 tar on it. Back on EL29 after that and the onetouch.
I'm not sure if you are suggesting the OTA Compliance Check caused your ODIN One-Click to stop working, but I assure you that is impossible and any appearance that it did would just be coincidental. Except for putting busybox into the tmp directory that is a 100% read-only operation.
I am interested in what may have caused the setup connection to fail though so if you had more info on that I'm up to try to decipher what went on.
Sometimes it is as simple as not realizing that ODIN One-Click needs to be started *before* getting the phone into ODIN D/L mode. If not you need to unplug/plugin the USB cable.
Did you have the yellow COM port show up in the UI of ODIN One-Click?
Did you try rebooting the PC and pulling the battery on the phone?
No I am saying after doing an OTA update to EL29 from the one click for EK02 which I believe is rooted I could not use any of the one click to ODIN anything it seemed. I had not tried to use traditional ODIN until I did the EG30 which went fine.
I did have the yellow com port and tried both my USB2 and 3 ports including one of the USB 2.0 ports that are not native to the system but run off one of the extra 8 pci-e lanes coming off the motherboards chipset. I did not do a battery pull but i did just about everything else you would think of. PC reboots, phone reboots and just for fun did cache wipes for no reason. I did reconnect after starting the one click odin and restarted the apps as well as trying any of them I had before.
I am a bit of a noob when it comes to Android devices but I used to write support tools for loading firmware onto consoles. Not exactly a stranger to the concept.
So one click EK02, OTA to EL29 and then download mode seemed a bust after trying many things but regular ODIN seemed fine. I can see if I can replicate it again but not right now. If whatever builds the auto odin executable packages is out of your hand this might not matter even if it is replicable.
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No I am saying after doing an OTA update to EL29 from the one click for EK02 which I believe is rooted I could not use any of the one click to ODIN anything it seemed. I had not tried to use traditional ODIN until I did the EG30 which went fine.
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So one click EK02, OTA to EL29 and then download mode seemed a bust after trying many things but regular ODIN seemed fine. I can see if I can replicate it again but not right now. If whatever builds the auto odin executable packages is out of your hand this might not matter even if it is replicable.
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There must be more stuff going on, because I have tested this exact same scenario at least 15 times and have not had the issue you mentioned earlier. This is both with the Full and NoData versions of the EK02 ODIN One-Click.
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There must be more stuff going on, because I have tested this exact same scenario at least 15 times and have not had the issue you mentioned earlier. This is both with the Full and NoData versions of the EK02 ODIN One-Click.
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Yeah decided to stay up. EK02 one click, OTA, EL29 One click went through just fine... interesting. Sorry to bother on that note.
TEP works hit and miss (with the gps message anytime you load in) on EL29 OTA, rooted and rooted with CWM. I will have to try custom roms later but it seems the issue entirely lies in sprints need to update the application.
Oh well figured id explore some. Now to find out why the phone has been hating on WiFi, specifically my N only router but others in general too. Tested that one between stock roms to no avail. Another issue for another day.
If you can figure out what app/process is doing the TEP location, you might be able to take an older version and put it on the current ROM.
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If you can figure out what app/process is doing the TEP location, you might be able to take an older version and put it on the current ROM.
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Thank you might be worth looking into. Interesting thought actually seeing as how the API and driver interfaces other apps use have not been affected. Sprints methods apparently were written to something specific to the firmware for each device. Maybe a background or helper application sprint has in the firmware.
I am not familiar with the platform yet but I would like to learn. I was about to go back to EK02 and learn how to start doing rom customizations. Almost posted a thread asking for places to look for such reading materials. Just saying rootzwiki as most people would, would never get me close to learning an individual topic or area. Not so much in a hurry anymore whatevers changed even on Calkulins 2.8.1 I am now able to pull manual GPS locations through sprints site. This will do for now.
So when diving into the world of modifying a smart phone, there is a lot of learning one must do reading threads and watching videos prior to getting started. Otherwise instead of rooting your phone, you may end up bricking it.
So lets talk about some of these things.
First off, if you are looking to open your phone up to unlimited modification, the quintessential step is rooting it, which is to say, unlocking root access so everything can be changed from fonts and colors to CPU overclocking.
If I understand this correctly, Rooting is done by flashing a modified kernel onto the phone. I wont try to pretend I know that with any confidence, these are the terms I'd like better explanations for. so... A release comes from the manufacturer and contains everything from the operating system to the firmware and the modem. A ROM is a pre-customized variation of a release, dunno exactly what a TAR, MD5, or a kernel is. A modem is a part of a release, but just the software part that deals with how your phone uses its radios. NANDroid is a way to completely backup your phone as a NAND. Clockworkmod is a utility set that can load and manage ROMS, NAND's, themes, and all kinds of other stuff. Recovery is actually usually used as a term for a built in function for restoring your phone back to a pre-loaded state (if it's not bricked, which means something went wrong and the phone won't turn on, which is different from soft-brick which means the phone is in a startup-boot-loop) I don't know what a bootlogger is. ODIN is a program 'leaked' by samsung used for flashing updates onto phones. Download Mode or Odin mode is used for updating and what you boot into by turning off your phone, then turning it on while holding the volume down button. a OneClick is a pre-made ODIN update that that automatically updates your phone. Stock means the release is unmodified from the manufacturers original. A Tweak is a modification that can be flashed onto a ROM? A Theme I assume is an aesthetic style that can be applied to even a non-rooted phone. But I think it requires the phone to be Deodexed, which is something that can be done to a release... otherwise the release is odexed?
GA10, Fk23, FL16, etc etc. You're probably wondering what that is. It's a coding system for the date of the release. Because android released in 2007, the coding system starts at 2007. That first letter represents the year, the second letter the month, and the number represents the day of the month. So a release from january 1, 2007 would have been AA01. febuary 15th 2007 would have been AB15, which is why a release on december 16 2012 got FL16.
This may not be the end, but to wrap up the small bit that I've learned in 17 hours of reading FAQ's and stickies, cutting edge threads and archives. The last 4 things we need to talk about are the flash count, or odin counter, which tracks how many times your phone has been flashed by an external source. Then there is the yellow triangle which is an indicator thrown during startup by a phone which has detected that it is not running a stock ROM. these 2 indicators can be reset on our e4gt by using a USB Jig, a small piece of hardware which can be bought online specific to our phone, which when plugged into the microusb port, resets the odincount and gets rid of the yellow triangle. And finally, there are some special procedures that must be observed when flashing around from release to release. Flashing to the same release is relatively safe, it sounds, but flashing down or up should be done without preserving data. (restore vs nodata).
Honestly, I've spent a lot of time on learning just this, and I still feel like I'm writing words that don't add up. In fact, I know I am. So I'd honestly appreciate it if someone could take what I've tried to do here, edit it for readability, proper word usage, accuracy, add any or all missing information, and post a new sticky. One that explains these things. Because there are a lot of stickies that provide instructions for how to do things, but very few are written in a way a beginner can understand. I've bolded words that are regularly used but dont make complete sense to non-developers and novice power-user hopefuls.
Hey, I might add some of the terms and what they mean to the FAQ thread. :good:
Am I getting it? or am I wasting my time.? I feel like some of this is for advanced root users only, (like maybe flashing just a modem while using older releases ROMS) and some of this is for beginners only, like one-clicks. I'd love if somebody made just 3 very simple, very useful beginner wikis/stickies. ONE is a 'terminology' post, like the one I've haphazardly attempted to put together above. TWO is an "everybody knows you're supposed to blah blah blah" post, for things like mobile odin and modems, making a backup, how to stick to the basics if you're new, not flashing backwards with ROMs, and knowing how to recover back to warranty eligible stock (odin counter and everything), finally THIRD would be the thread that explains how to do each of the different kinds of flashes, but not just instructions, but what it means to do them.
I've combed through these threads for a day straight and I've got more questions than I started with.
So, if someone doesn't want to put these together, Questions I'd love to know definitive answers to, so this thread can continue to be helpful to others....
A) If I flash anything, or everything, a hundred times, ROMs, modems, kernels, recoveries, roots, can I find a stock release of whatever-is-current-OTA to flash and then use TriangleAway to reset everything back to warrenty elligible? if not, what about the USB jig? Is this even possible.... If so...
B) Since my phone is not rooted now (first timer), Am I able to make a complete backup of my phone un-rooted so I can flash back to it if I ever need to become warrenty elligible again. If so, do I use nandroid, or titanium backup? don't both of these require root? Can I flash back to undetectable stock?
C) obviously, disclaimers everywhere show that it is never safe to flash anything, everything is at your own risk, but is there a general rule of thumb for whether a stock release is more reliable than a customized ROM. or do ROMs tend to be more stable with problems fixed.
D) Does a phone need to be already rooted, (or already flashed up to a release number or with a release modem) in order to flash a ROM onto it, or does it just require Odin and the TAR. Is a ROM a TAR? is a ROM a Kernel? or does a phone need to be rooted to some version first, then using CWM to load a same-version ROM?
I would say stock is more stable, on average. Think about what your goal is, why you would want root, and why you would use a custom rom. Rom choice, for me anyway, is based on customization availability, and tweaks. If you are simply driven by curiosity, and that is a good thing, read, and read some more. Patience and knowledge will keep you from trashing your phone, but most importantly attention to detail when performing any of these activities. Good luck, we all started somewhere.
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Triangle away will reset the counter now even in jellybean. Just not gingerbread. For going back to stock for warranty, dont worry about that. You can use a tar file or a one click. If you want a stock backup for yourself to rely on, I need to know what version number you want so I know what to do. Yes titanium backup as well as m.o. require root. For anything below ga10 touchwuz roms, use exynos abuse.apk you can root your phone no computer needed.
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I don't understand how a recovery is different from a backup. but somehow is independent of a ROM, and build, but is included in a kernel? Apparently I need a CWM recovery kernel to flash Kobridges GA10 ROM. I see that there are repositories of all kernels, and modems, and roms. So a build is a TAR which contains a kernel, which contains a recovery, but also is the original ROM, after which other ROMs are built?
My phone, purchased October 2011, (only updated OTA to this point) is running FI27 ICS 4.0.4.
I've been trying to understand what I need to know, and need to have, to get started. I think I need FI27 to flash back to if I ever want to go back to un-rooted stock. Or do I want to flash back to something safer, (perhaps a 1click?) and then do OTA updates if desired. I think I'm reading that the CWM EL26 Recovery Kernel is the gold standard for pre-flashing before flashing any ROMs. But I don't know how that exactly works considering clockworkmod uses root, and I don't have root yet. I'm simultaniously trying to confirm what I'm trying to understand, but also find out what I don't yet have or understand, without asking somebody to just lay it all out for me (unless in the form of a wiki/sticky which could benefit anyone else like me who comes along after).
A)
So I have an e4gt.
I have backed up all essential files from internal storage to my PC, but if I understand correctly, I cannot create a nandroid.
I have SPH-D710_FI27_CL1127689_UNROOTED_NoData.exe to go back if I need stock.
Now if I want to just put TeamSextapes GA10 release on, that's pretty simple, I just flash the tar with odin. Everything is done. no root. No Rom
I can use a USB Jig to make it run as if I got the update from sprint even. But I shouldn't use the factory reset?
Going back from that, I'd use my one-click FI27 unrooted nodata.exe right, and then the USB Jig?
B) Am I right so far, from A) to B)?
All of this assumes I don't want roms or root.
When we're talking about ROMs, I'm still confused, because of how to get from where I am, to there, I gather it requires root, nandroid, clockworkmod, and CWM EL26 recovery kernel, and the process seems to double back a lot. flashing a root rom seems to require root. the process seems rather more opaque. I understand how to do a 1 click root, and older versions of root kinda make sense too, but how can someone flash kobridges GA10 ROM when it requires root, but no rooted stock GA10 is available?
Maybe I need to stay away from GA10, but my whole goal for learning all of this is to know how to get the best performance, with the least bugs, out of my phone, and signs point to GA10 for that. I had expected JB to roll out with the GSIII months ago, and all news of it has gone silent except here.
Thanks for continuing to support my inquiry. If I can come to understand how it all works, I will post a supplement to the "how to not brick your e4gt". Because as absolutely fantastic as that thread is... it still is way too deep water for a complete beginner. Regarding aspects of all this, I feel like I've learned more than I need to about some, and only enough to be dangerous about others. But still, Thanks!
I'll try to help with with what I understand. Clockworkmod or any recovery in general is packed up with the kernel. So if you want to make a backup just Odin a kernal with a recovery and it would be fine (I.e Kuban kernel). The thing is when you use Odin to flash kernel's it will cause the Samsung binary counter to increase and you will get a yellow triangle on boot. This is an easy fix but you need root access to run an app called triangle away which can be found in these forums or you can buy it off the play store if you want to support the dev. I would suggest getting the Directboot el29 kernel as it boots up directly into recovery. El29 or el26 are gingerbread kernels so if your running stock your phone won't boot up unless you are on gingerbread but you can always access recovery. I would suggest also getting an app called mobile odin (same deal as triangle away on how to get it)you can flash anything you can with regular Odin except it won't cause the counter to increase. Now for root.. I can be stock and have custom recovery just from using a custom kernel through Odin. Now 1 clicks are amazing let's say I have to take my phone in for repairs or warranty reasons. All I have to so is use the triangle away app (if I have the yellow triangle on boot) then boot my phone into download mode and use the FI27 stock no root data wipe. You can run a 1 click from your phone in any ROM ect... And bam you can take your phone to sprint for repairs or warranty. When you get your phone back just flash a 1 click for root access or a custom kernel for the recovery and then restore a nandroid and return to how your phone was. Now this is why I bought mobile Odin to support the dev.. Like in your case you want ga10. What I would do is just drag the download to my phone run mobile Odin and flash the ROM through mobile Odin.. Why? Because it can inject root to stock as it flashes. Just be careful and remember to back up your data because most jellybean leaks wipe internal data like pictures etc.. This doesn't happen when you flash a ROM and they ask you to wipe data. Now for modems stock jellybean modems don't work on ICS. You need a jellybean modem (if you do use the mobile Odin route you will have to flash a jellybean modem using regular Odin because mobile Odin doesn't seem to flash modems for our phones). When you Odin modems it will not increase the binary count and trigger the yellow triangle. Gingerbread modems and ICS modems interchange with each other so I wouldn't fear odining them.. Just see which works best. Hope this helps... I'm pretty sure you will read this cause you took the time to write a very long post lol.
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Thanks! That answers a number of my questions, now that the 1click for ga10 is out, i think ive finally got enough figured out to mess with it a bit with relative confidence.
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jt323bd said:
My phone, purchased October 2011, (only updated OTA to this point) is running FI27 ICS 4.0.4.
I've been trying to understand what I need to know, and need to have, to get started. I think I need FI27 to flash back to if I ever want to go back to un-rooted stock. Or do I want to flash back to something safer, (perhaps a 1click?) and then do OTA updates if desired. I think I'm reading that the CWM EL26 Recovery Kernel is the gold standard for pre-flashing before flashing any ROMs. But I don't know how that exactly works considering clockworkmod uses root, and I don't have root yet. I'm simultaniously trying to confirm what I'm trying to understand, but also find out what I don't yet have or understand, without asking somebody to just lay it all out for me (unless in the form of a wiki/sticky which could benefit anyone else like me who comes along after).
A)
So I have an e4gt.
I have backed up all essential files from internal storage to my PC, but if I understand correctly, I cannot create a nandroid.
I have SPH-D710_FI27_CL1127689_UNROOTED_NoData.exe to go back if I need stock.
Now if I want to just put TeamSextapes GA10 release on, that's pretty simple, I just flash the tar with odin. Everything is done. no root. No Rom
I can use a USB Jig to make it run as if I got the update from sprint even. But I shouldn't use the factory reset?
Going back from that, I'd use my one-click FI27 unrooted nodata.exe right, and then the USB Jig?
B) Am I right so far, from A) to B)?
All of this assumes I don't want roms or root.
When we're talking about ROMs, I'm still confused, because of how to get from where I am, to there, I gather it requires root, nandroid, clockworkmod, and CWM EL26 recovery kernel, and the process seems to double back a lot. flashing a root rom seems to require root. the process seems rather more opaque. I understand how to do a 1 click root, and older versions of root kinda make sense too, but how can someone flash kobridges GA10 ROM when it requires root, but no rooted stock GA10 is available?
Maybe I need to stay away from GA10, but my whole goal for learning all of this is to know how to get the best performance, with the least bugs, out of my phone, and signs point to GA10 for that. I had expected JB to roll out with the GSIII months ago, and all news of it has gone silent except here.
Thanks for continuing to support my inquiry. If I can come to understand how it all works, I will post a supplement to the "how to not brick your e4gt". Because as absolutely fantastic as that thread is... it still is way too deep water for a complete beginner. Regarding aspects of all this, I feel like I've learned more than I need to about some, and only enough to be dangerous about others. But still, Thanks!
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You can still flash a kernel with a custom recovery using desktop odin if you are not rooted. You can they boot into custom recovery and make a nandroid of your unrooted stock rom.
Your flash counter only increases if you flash unofficial stock files using desktop odin. So if you flash a modem.bin in the phone slot in desktop odin, your flash counter will increase. If you flash a kernel.tar file in desktop odin, your flash counter will increase. Thats why you go to rwilco12's repo in dev forums and use the one-click.exe files. Oneclick.exe files do not increase flash counter. You only need jib to reset flash counter or boot to download mode if you can't normally boot to download mode.
You could flash EL26 CWM kernel in desktop odin and boot to CWM recovery to flash any rom zip file you want even if you are not rooted. Don't jump to jelly bean roms from ics without first flash a stock jellybean oneclick.