If I used the built-in backup capability of FroYo on DK28, then Odin to DI18 and update to stock EB13, will it automatically re-download my programs and whatnot once I log in?
What auto froyo method you talking about? If your going to odin why not just odin directly to eb13?
On 2.2, when you're going through the first-time setup, it asks if you want to automatically back up your apps & settings.
When I had my Hero running 2.2, this meant that every time I wiped it to go to a different version, it would automatically re-download all the apps I had installed before.
I did end up using Odin to go directly to EB13 (didn't realize it was available as a .tar at the time of my original post), and it seems that no, the automatic re-downloading didn't happen.
I can say "no" as of now. I used Odin to update to EB13 and none of my apps have been restored automatically.
The only ones that got restored automatically for me was system apps in the market.
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I dont think you can. The option isn't there in the settings
The auto backup feature only backs up your user settings so if you uninstall an app and then reinstall it, it restores your setting for that app. It doesn't restore the apps themselves unfortunately
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The auto backup feature only backs up your user settings so if you uninstall an app and then reinstall it, it restores your setting for that app. It doesn't restore the apps themselves unfortunately
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Odd. As I said before, when I used 2.2 on my Hero, it would always automatically re-download any apps I had installed...
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is it possible to obtain full root without wiping phone data? all i want to do is remove apps that i dont use...like most of the sprint/htc crap i dont care for a custom rom only want a custom kernel with all tweaks
I don't think it's possible. However, once you do get full root access and nand unlock, you would be able to remove the apps you don't want, set your phone up, and you could do a nand backup.
It can be a pain in the ass, but it's well worth it.
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is it possible to obtain full root without wiping phone data? all i want to do is remove apps that i dont use...like most of the sprint/htc crap i dont care for a custom rom only want a custom kernel with all tweaks
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Use the unrevoked method. Then use a backup app like titanium, backup your stuff then go through the root process then restore your backup. There are plenty of guides on how to do this.
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yea but i want to be able to let the apps update from the market and i used a backup program before and the market didnt recognize them
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yea but i want to be able to let the apps update from the market and i used a backup program before and the market didnt recognize them
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Titanium backup has a market doctor feature that links your backed up apps back to the market
Definitely root and use titanium backup. But keep in mind with a custom ROM you are going to lose everything you have. Any apps that store data on sd card will probably be fine.
What I did before I had Titanium Backup was flash custom ROM. Then once booted I make sure things look fine, fully sync to Google, then reboot. When I come back from that I turn on WiFi and go to market and Download section. Any apps I previously downloaded will be in that section waiting for me to download. Download them all at once, DO NOT leave that section before downloading everything again, or you will lose that list.
Once done, open apps and customize to liking. Then download Rom Manager if you don't have it already. Flash clockwork and let it do its thing. Then do a NAND backup from Rom Manager. Once that is done do backup with titanium backup.
Sounds like a lot of work, I know, but you only need to do this once. Then incremental backups with titanium and you are set. It is a lot of time up front but can save a ton of time and headaches down the road. Trust me here.
Running DC 3.1.2 and a netarchy's 5 pt multi touch/fps fix kernel, Paid version of titanium backup.
I've fixed permissions
verified backups
installed app, apps + data, apps + system data
When i attempt to restore any app i've backed up on the sd card via titanium backup it wont restore them. It goes through, acts like it installed but when i reboot the phone and do the above mentioned things it just doesnt show up...
I should mentioned i came from stock rooted EVO 4G 1.3x ROM
Anyone ever heard of this problem before?
bump, anyone?
ANother thing its now doing is i was able to get the apps to show up in market, however they show as installed... until i click on the app then it asks me to install it.
Friggin weird.
anyone at all?
That's a weird one. I've been using Titanium quite a bit lately with no problems. You might just have to wipe and start over. Have you tried uninstalling / reinstalling Titanium? Its also possible there's a problem with your SD card. Do you have another one you could test with?
Did you go into settings / applications and put a check in the unknown sources box?
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Frank...
yes unknown sources is checked.
SD card as far as i know has no problems, ill try with a new one.
Thanks for the info.
im having the same problem. i have unknown sources checked, reflashed a couple times, and have even re-rooted. it works perfectly in both fresh and OMJ, but DC just fails. if you install the apps manually and then do a restore of app+data, it will restore the data properly, but it fails when you try to install from the backup.
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ndboost said:
Running DC 3.1.2 and a netarchy's 5 pt multi touch/fps fix kernel, Paid version of titanium backup.
I've fixed permissions
verified backups
installed app, apps + data, apps + system data
When i attempt to restore any app i've backed up on the sd card via titanium backup it wont restore them. It goes through, acts like it installed but when i reboot the phone and do the above mentioned things it just doesnt show up...
I should mentioned i came from stock rooted EVO 4G 1.3x ROM
Anyone ever heard of this problem before?
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Same problem here...Fresh, Calkulin's EviO, Baked Snack, and Toasted Delight ROMs have all been able to restore just fine using Titanium Backup.
It's too bad...I really wanted to try DCs ROM, but I'm not gonna go through installing all my missing apps and setting up all the screens again.
Has anyone found a way to fix this yet?
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Same problem here...Fresh, Calkulin's EviO, Baked Snack, and Toasted Delight ROMs have all been able to restore just fine using Titanium Backup.
It's too bad...I really wanted to try DCs ROM, but I'm not gonna go through installing all my missing apps and setting up all the screens again.
Has anyone found a way to fix this yet?
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Just make a nandroid backup, wipe, and try out DC 3.2.3 yourself. 99% chance everything will be fine.
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Just make a nandroid backup, wipe, and try out DC 3.2.3 yourself. 99% chance everything will be fine.
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The problem isn't loading the ROM. I'm able to install DC after doing a full wipe...it seems to be the only ROM that causes problem when trying to do a full Titanium Backup restore.
I've been running stock rooted 3.29 deodexed.
Finally decided to try out Myns Warm 2.2 today. Did a Titanium backup and a nand backup, flashed the new ROM. I wasn't expecting all my widgets, apps and homescreen settings to remain intact. Obviously I was pleasantly surprised when they were.
Two questions:
1) Is this normal behavior for any ROM (e.g., CM6) or just because Warm2.2 is a Sense-based ROM? How did it even know all my homescreen settings? Did Titanium restore them without my asking? (Yes I know that's three questions in one, sorry)
2) Why were all my homescreen icons/widgets doubled up on top of eachother?
I know these are probably basic questions but just based on everything I've read I was expecting to have to install Ti backup, restore my apps, and then re-setup my homescreens. So this was just really surprising to me.
Just noticed that it also retained the flash that I applied for the 4-in-1 reboot mode (hot reboot, recovery, etc). Color me confused.
Shane112358 said:
I've been running stock rooted 3.29 deodexed.
Finally decided to try out Myns Warm 2.2 today. Did a Titanium backup and a nand backup, flashed the new ROM. I wasn't expecting all my widgets, apps and homescreen settings to remain intact. Obviously I was pleasantly surprised when they were.
Two questions:
1) Is this normal behavior for any ROM (e.g., CM6) or just because Warm2.2 is a Sense-based ROM? How did it even know all my homescreen settings? Did Titanium restore them without my asking? (Yes I know that's three questions in one, sorry)
2) Why were all my homescreen icons/widgets doubled up on top of eachother?
I know these are probably basic questions but just based on everything I've read I was expecting to have to install Ti backup, restore my apps, and then re-setup my homescreens. So this was just really surprising to me.
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Hi there...well, as a noob myself I have learned that when you flash any NEW ROMS from different developers, you MUST wipe DATA, CACHE & DAVLIK/CACHE 1st. If you are upgrading from Myn Warms 2.2 3.29 OTA to 3.30 then you usually don' have to unless they tell you to. That's why your icons/widges are doubled up. Can't go from Stock rooted ROM to Myns...different development.
It will wipe everything on your system and install the ROM brand new as if you bought your phone that way. Items in your SD card will remain there...it does not wipe that. The NAND backup is good if for some reason your EVO goes haywire you can just do the old fashion Bootloader and go into recovery and get everything back. (I actually do this once a week just incase I need to go back to a place when my EVO was perfect...I delete any old ones so that I don't get confused.)
Once you flash the new ROM then go into titanium back up and restore everything. I use Mybackup Pro (Free for 30days to try out)...it saves my home/android screen so That I don't have to reset everything I have except for login into my POP mail server. Not a fan of Titanium but a lot of people seems to like it.
You may need to restore your Evo to that NAND you just did, then WIPE...then flash Myns. Also Myns ROM has the 4-1 reboot. I hope this helps...
Well that explains the 4-in-1 but I did wipe my cache and dalvik cache twice before flashing Warm2.2. I was not on Warm2.2 so this was a change from stock to Warm2.2. So I still don't see how all my settings were retained.
I'm not looking for a "clean" install of Warm2.2 - I'm merely trying to understand why it happened this way when I thought that it wasn't supposed to, and if this behavior is normal.
And just out of curiosity why don't you like Ti backup? I've always wondered if it really serves any good purpose since it seems like Nand backups all my apps anyways....?
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Well that explains the 4-in-1 but I did wipe my cache and dalvik cache twice before flashing Warm2.2. I was not on Warm2.2 so this was a change from stock to Warm2.2. So I still don't see how all my settings were retained.
I'm not looking for a "clean" install of Warm2.2 - I'm merely trying to understand why it happened this way when I thought that it wasn't supposed to, and if this behavior is normal.
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Unfortunately you will need to do a clean install when you go from one ROM to another. Even if the other ROM is a rooted stock ROM...still someone's ROM they created with the stock OTA.
You have to wipe DATA too, no way around it....because the system is rooted and different developers change the path to what they want to do with their ROM you can't flash MYNS on top of someone else's rooted stock ROM. It will conflict with one another (hence the overlapping of icons/widgets). That's why they created apps like Titanium and Mybackup Pro because it will be like a clean phone you just bought and instead of taking hours to set up your phone again...do a restore from one of the programs and you will be up and running with the new ROM.
I love Myn's ROM...
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And just out of curiosity why don't you like Ti backup? I've always wondered if it really serves any good purpose since it seems like Nand backups all my apps anyways....?
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The way I view NAND backup is like a system restore on your PC. I don't use it unless I want to make sure there is a good location for me to go back to just in case my EVO acts up.
I tried titanium backup...visually it doesn't give me confidence as a noob...mybackup pro is very simple and does its purpose.
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Unfortunately you will need to do a clean install when you go from one ROM to another. Even if the other ROM is a rooted stock ROM...still someone's ROM they created with the stock OTA.
You have to wipe DATA too, no way around it....because the system is rooted and different developers change the path to what they want to do with their ROM you can't flash MYNS on top of someone else's rooted stock ROM. It will conflict with one another (hence the overlapping of icons/widgets). That's why they created apps like Titanium and Mybackup Pro because it will be like a clean phone you just bought and instead of taking hours to set up your phone again...do a restore from one of the programs and you will be up and running with the new ROM.
I love Myn's ROM...
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Yeah I think I discovered your point. Myns ROM works flawlessly going from stock to Myns without a data wipe. But I just put on CM6 and had several FC and launcher problems. For some reason I never thought that wipe also meant data wipe...I was probably just trained by all the mod flashes I've been doing....
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Yeah I think I discovered your point. Myns ROM works flawlessly going from stock to Myns without a data wipe. But I just put on CM6 and had several FC and launcher problems. For some reason I never thought that wipe also meant data wipe...I was probably just trained by all the mod flashes I've been doing....
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I was always told to wipe everything when flashing one ROM to the next. But only wipe cache & Davlik/cache if your flash themes...Kernels or different MODS.
Two questions for you two since you both seem to know what you're doing
1. Did either of you use the special recovery images? (Clockwork/AmonRA)
2. I backup everything to Titanium Backup Pro...but if i wipe EVERYTHING that means Titanium Backup Pro will be gone as well...so how am I supposed to get everything restored if the app is gone?
1) Not sure, I use clockwork recovery but don't know what a special recovery image is.
2) My understanding is that you have to reinstall Ti backup, and whence forth it will find the old restore files that you can use to restore your apps.
Whenever installing a new rom it is best to do a FULL wipe meaning data,cache, and davlik. Even though there may not be any problems initially upon use, there will likely be some down the road. It's your phone though, do as you please.
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RTC88 said:
Whenever installing a new rom it is best to do a FULL wipe meaning data,cache, and davlik. Even though there may not be any problems initially upon use, there will likely be some down the road. It's your phone though, do as you please.
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So I did a full wipe last night and installed CM6. It installed just fine but my data didn't work....kept telling me that I didn't have a SIM installed. I could make phone calls though. I'll have to try again tonight but I did a restore so I had a functional phone today. Any idea why that happens?
Also I did a full backup with My Backup Pro so I'm assuming I can just reinstall My Backup Pro and it will find my backed-up data for restoration?
Could be a network problem on sprint's side.
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Two questions for you two since you both seem to know what you're doing
1. Did either of you use the special recovery images? (Clockwork/AmonRA)
2. I backup everything to Titanium Backup Pro...but if i wipe EVERYTHING that means Titanium Backup Pro will be gone as well...so how am I supposed to get everything restored if the app is gone?
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1. Yes...AmonRA.
2. When you use an APP like Titanium and Mybackup Pro...it saves your backup to your SD card and a full wipe does not wipe external memory cards only internal system stuff. So once you wipe and flash a new ROM...you need to go to market first and foremost to download whichever backup program you used and then order it to restore your phone. It will know the path in which it used to back everything up and pull from there. Follow the prompts.
Thanks, everyone who worked on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963652 . It looks like a very helpful update thread, and I'm looking forward to trying it. I just have one concern:
Will I still have all my apps and stored data/preferences with those apps after updating? I imagine not, right? What's the best way to restore after updating? (I'm running stock rooted DK28 with CWM.)
I have Titanium backups, but I don't really know how they work. I mean, if all of my app data is cleared, doesn't that include my Titanium backups? Also, Titanium doesn't back up preferences for stock/core apps like gmail, right? How do I restore preferences for those?
Thanks in advance for any help!
It depends. If you use the update.zip, your apps and settings will still be there.
If you use the windows updater tool or odin, everything will be wiped.
Thanks! Which update.zip? If you mean the one mentioned in step 11 here, I thought that only works for DI18 people, not DK28 people? Or is it worth trying?
I dont think it could hurt to try
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Thanks! Which update.zip? If you mean the one mentioned in step 11 here, I thought that only works for DI18 people, not DK28 people? Or is it worth trying?
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My bad. The update zip is only for di18. And you can't have cwm.
Try this: look in the wiki. Get the di18 with modem that is cwm flashable. Then get the EB13 rooted deodexed stock rom. Both of those are near the top of the official rom listing on the wiki. Flash the di18 with cwm to roll your phone and modem back. Then do the eb13 to update.
In the end I backed up a lot with Titanium Backup (all apps and most "green" system settings), Odined to DI18, flashed the Sprint update.zip (not the pre-rooted deodexed one), and rerooted with one-click/CWM 2.5. Basically, this (the first set of instructions) plus this. I lost my call logs, but Titanium kept everything else.
I definitely recommend this procedure to rooted DK28 people who want to keep their settings, don't care about call logs, and want things rooted but otherwise as "stock" as possible.
Thanks for everyone's help!
I am going back to SRF 1.2 after being on EH17 for a while now. I made backups in Titanium Backup and I tried restoring all missing apps + data, but I ended up with a bunch of FCs and an incomplete restore. Is this because some system data is incompatible between the two? If so, what should I restore to avoid this?
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I am going back to SRF 1.2 after being on EH17 for a while now. I made backups in Titanium Backup and I tried restoring all missing apps + data, but I ended up with a bunch of FCs and an incomplete restore. Is this because some system data is incompatible between the two? If so, what should I restore to avoid this?
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Just restore the APKs w/o data.
Some APKs will FC even that way, those that do. Uninstall and reinstall via market (handcent always does when I try to restore the apk)
then setup your apps
That is how I went from GB Leak back to EC05 (just flashed midnight right over gb leak and then restored apks, call log, sms, mms and dictionary)
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Just restore the APKs w/o data.
Some APKs will FC even that way, those that do. Uninstall and reinstall via market (handcent always does when I try to restore the apk)
then setup your apps
That is how I went from GB Leak back to EC05 (just flashed midnight right over gb leak and then restored apks, call log, sms, mms and dictionary)
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I appreciate the response. I tried what you said. Restoring only the apks didn't cause any problems, but when I restored call log, sms, mms, and dictionary, I rebooted and I was having the same problem with messaging FCs. Any ideas? I don't really need to restore anything except apks and messages, call logs, and possibly contacts. I just want to be on EC05 again
Don't do it the way I tried... and tried... and tried several times over again today.
Thank goodness I finally got all my GF's data and apps back, but making a cwm backup, then flashing any of a few EC05 ROMS, and trying to restore apps universally led to a complete "hang" during the boot animation at some point. Sigh.
Fortunately, I was able to put the EH17 back, restore apps from the CWM backup, and only lost a few hours' time, rather than my GF's good will.
So, if I use titanium backup, I should be able to restore the apks and such, after flashing an EC05 rom back over the current one?
JV
Non-system apps. Even then some will go wrong.
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Non-system apps. Even then some will go wrong.
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That kind of blows. No other way to tell than trial and error, then? I suppose, worst case, something she cares about blows up and I roll it completely back to EH17, just like yesterday. Learning experience and all that.