Warm Twopointtwo No camera - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

To start off.. as if its not obvious enough (if this isnt dev thread worthy) Im an xda forum noob. But familiar with roms and kernels etc.
I have #0004 hardware, white, Evo. Flashed warm twopointtwo RLS5, which is my favorite so far. Ive tried manymanymany kernels and yet no camera (i open camera app and i get just a black screen). All kingx kernels past #7. Netarchy more aggressive v7 and ziggy kernels and more. Ziggy and stock are the only ones that have working cameras... but suck up battery..
Are there any camera fixes, or ROMS as fast as kingx that should fix my problem
p.s. dont tell me i need to wipe my caches, ive tried that...
cauk's format all.zip or whatever doesnt work.

nilesskate2 said:
as if its not obvious enough (if this isnt dev thread worthy) Im an xda forum noob.
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So you know you're doing it wrong but decided to post anyway?

Jesus just help the man out, rather than being counterproductive and just flaming him for posting in the wrong area.
As for the issue, search up some ROMS where people are reporting camera to work for hardware #0004.

aph said:
So you know you're doing it wrong but decided to post anyway?
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i think it IS worthy of this category considering it needs developement level help, and the answer isnt anywhere else. but there are always haters.

questions are meant for the Questions section. simple as that. people just cant seem to grasp that concept.

Ive seen this problem reported by many in the myn thread, wanted a separate discussion since its not getting solved there... and i as well as others with this problem am very attached to myn's masterpiece

ronnybej60 said:
questions are meant for the Questions section. simple as that. people just cant seem to grasp that concept.
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this is hardly a frequently asked question, but a dev discussion (hopefully, if i get to stop defending my validity)

nilesskate2 said:
this is hardly a frequently asked question, but a dev discussion (hopefully, if i get to stop defending my validity)
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Again, this isnt a question section nor a discussion section. It is a section meant for developers to post their work.
If you do have a question about someone's work, ask it in the corresponding thread, not create a whole new one to clutter the forums.

I consider this less clutter considering it came from a thread of almost 4 thousand pages. And I was unaware that this was just for posting work, hard to tell since it isn't labeled such. So if this really isn't going anywhere. Let this post be deleted -_-
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nilesskate2 said:
i think it IS worthy of this category considering it needs developement level help, and the answer isnt anywhere else. but there are always haters.
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It still shouldn't go here. But from his post he obviously wasn't sure. So just help him and move the thread.

dude... you need a kernel based off htc 15. thats why all the nets sbc v7's (which are built on older kernels) dont work. flash one of net's newest (4.3+) kernels or stock htc 15 and dont post in the wrong section.

I have posted in the wrong thread before myself. Its amazing how many people are waiting to flame someone for it.
If flashing a different kernel doesn't work you can try flashing this. Just make sure you backup first.

Myn's RL5 actually comes with htc kernel #15, did that kernel not work for you?

There were a few people with 004 models having issues with VirusZ rom and the 004 cam fix solved their issues.

aha. this thread adds nothing to the development community. It belongs in his thread or q&a.
Try the camera fix posted by calk.

I just tried netarchys most recent kernel (as a flamer suggested) which works.. and now I'm baffled as to why nothing else works including kingxs latest... and BTW, it did work on 15, but there were so many problems with it i couldn't use it
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nilesskate2 said:
I just tried netarchys most recent kernel (as a flamer suggested) which works.. and now I'm baffled as to why nothing else works including kingxs latest... and BTW, it did work on 15, but there were so many problems with it i couldn't use it
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Not all phones like all kernels... its just how it is.
You set your self up to be flamed. have no one but yourself to blame

dmoses1969 said:
There were a few people with 004 models having issues with VirusZ rom and the 004 cam fix solved their issues.
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I've tried that fix on multiple kernels, a couple times it fixed the camera.
but everytime it caused glitchy vertical lines at every screen
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As a last comment before I let this thread die, by letting flamers flame, and moderators moderate. How about you folks not complain about posts like mine and instead, You rally for a subtitle under the development forum link that states "do not use any initiative to get valid problems solved here, do not discuss with development familiar folks about development level problems as this title suggests.. but DO use it for posting your software... nothing else"
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Wow White Knights made it out pretty early in this thread.
It's really simple. Big sticky that says this isn't Q&A. This is Q&A and no ROM development or Android development. It's someone who knows better, posting a Question in the Development section. If you have a question about a specific ROM, suck it up like everyone else and ask in that thread.
Follow the rules.
Back to the White Knights: Stop defending people who break the rules. This protect the ignorant mentality is baffling.
Sadly, answering these questions just leads to more and more cluttering crap in the development threads making it harder to find stuff than it already is.
nilesskate2 said:
You rally for a subtitle under the development forum link that states "do not use any initiative to get valid problems solved here, do not discuss with development familiar folks about development level problems as this title suggests.. but DO use it for posting your software... nothing else
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Uh dude, there has always been a big STICKY on this forum that says exactly what you just said. "Thread DELETED/Locked??? This is DEVELOPMENT section not Q&A/General!!!!"
And once more like has been said time and time again. If you have an issue with a ROM, suck it up like the rest of us and post in that ROM Dev's forum or PM them.

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Can someone port this?

Title says it all. I would donate for this. Its droid x 2.3.3 with new blur.
Heres a link
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-5-596-release-thread-something-everyone.html
Dude I think you should've posted this in the general section but whatever. Ask Virus he's the best at porting roms from what I've seen
I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
Vinchenzop said:
I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
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Thank u sir. Remember if u get it done a donation will head ur way
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I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
this is contributing to development not asking why my ___________ doesnt work or How to you ____________
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this is contributing to development not asking why my ___________ doesnt work or How to you ____________
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OK....Now I'm not trying to start anything here BUT what I got from what you said was that as long as you ask for a rom to be port over that is OK to post in the development section?
Now like I said before, I'm not trying to police this forum or any forum for that matter but I was just saying how I've seen there's a double standard for things like this. Last time I checked, rules are rules right? I'm not on here to gain any friends or make any enemies but I don't like how people jump on newbies for common mistakes but is cool if a so called senior member make mistakes......
mazdarider23 said:
I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
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Clark44 also contributes to the forum instead of just leaching, plus he has an awesome avatar.
Although it does seem like anytime a new ROM for another phone gets released it gets posted here before it does in their own section.
Guys chill. Vinchen is going to see what he can do but most of the time we work together. I dont just ask for something and expect it to come out of no where at any time. I actually contribute so can this not be about me and become about the ROM??
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clark44 said:
Guys chill. Vinchen is going to see what he can do but most of the time we work together. I dont just ask for something and expect it to come out of no where at any time. I actually contribute so can this not be about me and become about the ROM??
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Is cool dude...I didn't mean to attack you or anything like that! I was just airing out what I see here in this forum lately and it just happen that you posted this and I saw no one jumped on you like they do on the newbies.
No hard feelings....I hope! AND yeah, I agree with you....let's get talking about the ROM.
mazdarider23 said:
I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
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hmm porting = dev work
CheesyNutz said:
hmm porting = dev work
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Stay on topic lol
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Funny how good and good intentions can quickly go south!!!!
T.E.A.M.W.O.R.K.
Hmmmm!
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eVoKINGS said:
Hmmmm!
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Lol i see a port comin from our king
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eVoKINGS said:
Hmmmm!
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Have at it king, I took a quick stab and i think its the updater script that came with the rom...didn't seem to be flashing right...but its 4 am and I've got alot of work tomorrow, so...night everyone
Please be aware that porting is serious work! Will give it a shot no promises! Alot is envolved! Thanks
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This would be sweet ! My girlfriends got a Droid x and it would be funny to get her update before her LOL. I think it will be mostly hardware issue that the devs will have to face when porting this. It would be really cool to play with a blur phone LOL
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Vinchenzop said:
I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
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+1 on that port I was checking it out I would like to see what this would be like on an Evo btw I'm on the Skyraider port this thing is amazing I usually don't run I ROM with no 4g but I love this ROM and I'm living without it.
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Just to clear things up, this isn't actually a Dev thread. It's a request, and therefore should not be in dev.
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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[Q} Question for Mods

Is there any info to be made public about why another Developer was banned from XDA?
Comment from Mod:
Closing this as OP has been banned for a significant amount of time.
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Not trying to be mean or anything just trying to help answer your question a bit better so the trolls don't eat this up, as these types of threads always seem to just turn into to flame wars and *****ing. I'm pretty sure I know who you are talking about and it has been discussed several times in other threads. I guess they may have been closed, now that I think about it, either way i'd recommend just a pm to dec3dace (I think thats how you spell it) he's our new epic only mod. He's pretty good and should get back to you.
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Thank you, I searched, but its very possible I just missed them, though the thread was locked at 5am or so this morning.
Pretty much just looking for an official comment, not really a discussion.
In a perfect world, a mod would post up the "why" then lock this thread
Another developer, how many have been banned thus far?
And maybe thats why I can't find the rom I'm looking for. I guess it dosnt matter. So this seems like a friendly place?
I am a little surprised because I had heard he had talked things out with them. The Roms are all over, it'd suck if the forum went empty or shifted somewhere else.
I heard his thread was mistakenly closed then he cussed out the mod, then I think it was reopened then he got banned for the cus out.
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Taking things online personally and disrespecting MODs shows lack of character on one's part.
Want respect? then give it instead of demanding it.
xopher.hunter said:
I heard his thread was mistakenly closed then he cussed out the mod, then I think it was reopened then he got banned for the cus out.
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Thanks.
I wanted to know if it was a XDA Rules issue, (not a concern) or an issue with the software he posted (major concern)
Wish mods would just post a little note letting the community know the basics.
Don't need all the details, but a basic, a XDA rule was broken, or there was an issue with sw, or some such, which would be hugely helpful.

The most popular roms for T989?

I just rooted my new T989. Now for a good custom rom or two. I'm not asking what is the best custom rom out but rather:
1. What are some of the most popular custom roms out and why are they popular.
2. What are some good ones that are faster (yet stable) than stock, which ones have better camera quality (I think the vibrant camera is better without flash), and which are overclockable but stable?
Thanks!
Edit: Sorry I'm a super noob. I tried searching yet I don't know how to find the info I'm looking for. I accidentally posted this in the wrong section. Would the correct section be the Q and A?
Remember this is not a flame thread. I'm not asking what is the best rom. But rather what are some of the most popular (popular doesn't mean best) ones that people talk about the most. A good 3-5 would suffice.
Should of read the dev section or use the search. Be prepared for the flaming to begin unil this thread is closed.
P.S. JUGGERNAUT 5.0
Sent from MY Juggernaut!!!
Is this a joke? You posted this in the DEVELOPMENT SECTION. Instead of creating a new thread, how about reading through other threads that were in the same section you posted this in?
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This is why I hate this section. One person needs to flame or at least guide in the right direction. Instead everyone that owns this device has to flame. That's what mods are for. Go flash something!!!!!
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Why exactly did you post this thread in the DEV section and NOT either Q&A or GENERAL?
PS You could have the used the search bar instead of creating a useless thread
h1a8 said:
I just rooted my new T989. Now for a good custom rom or two. I'm not asking what is the best custom rom...
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Edit: Sorry I'm a super noob. I tried searching yet I don't know how to find the info I'm looking for. I accidentally posted this in the wrong section. Would the correct section be the Q and A?
Remember this is not a flame thread. I'm not asking what is the best rom. But rather what are some of the most popular (popular doesn't mean best) ones that people talk about the most. A good 3-5 would suffice.
h1a8 said:
Edit: Sorry I'm a super noob. I tried searching yet I don't know how to find the info I'm looking for. I accidentally posted this in the wrong section. Would the correct section be the Q and A?
Remember this is not a flame thread. I'm not asking what is the best rom. But rather what are some of the most popular (popular doesn't mean best) ones that people talk about the most. A good 3-5 would suffice.
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You'll learn people are not very nice. I posted in the wrong thread yesterday like a moreon. It happens the best of us. Mod will fix it.
I consider http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455292 to be the best most stable full functioning rom. But read the threads flash around and find your own favorite
That link is for blu ray
Juggernaut 5.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322642
Darkside Digital Warfare
Malice
Beastmod 5.0
Malice and Beastmod are over on the rootzwiki site.
grawkiller73 said:
Is this a joke? You posted this in the DEVELOPMENT SECTION. Instead of creating a new thread, how about reading through other threads that were in the same section you posted this in?
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k786 said:
Why exactly did you post this thread in the DEV section and NOT either Q&A or GENERAL?
PS You could have the used the search bar instead of creating a useless thread
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Seriously people...the guys is new to using the amazing forums here! Some of you joined 2 months ago and you never once posted a useless thread or asked an already answered question? Give him a break, he admitted his fault so instead of criticizing and shaming why not help and just point in the right direction?
I have been slammed by you guys before and the only reason I put up with the"I am better than you attitudes"is because the majority of users aren't always looking to find fault or ridicule others who are seeking knowledge from experienced users.
So let's try to be a little nicer to noobs looking for guidance especially when they admit their mistake in the op!
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Seriously people...the guys is new to using the amazing forums here! Some of you joined 2 months ago and you never once posted a useless thread or asked an already answered question? Give him a break, he admitted his fault so instead of criticizing and shaming why not help and just point in the right direction?
I have been slammed by you guys before and the only reason I put up with the"I am better than you attitudes"is because the majority of users aren't always looking to find fault or ridicule others who are seeking knowledge from experienced users.
So let's try to be a little nicer to noobs looking for guidance especially when they admit their mistake in the op!
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I am not saying bash the OP but you shouldn't be telling anyone how to act since you apparently didn't read the whole thread. The 2 posts you quoted were made before the OP admitted his mistake. They are the reason why he admitted his mistake. If you look at the OP you will see that it was edited 20 minutes or so after it was originally posted, after his mistake was brought to his attention. I am not saying it was brought to his attention in a very helpful manner.
If you want to see the most popular, you can sort by views on the Development forum. But the MOST popular is Juggernaut 5.0.
Remember learn to survive n this forum, theres lot of people who think they r better than others, dont have a life and the only entertaiment is to flame people post! For those flamers.....I know you have a pathetic life because of that... GET A LIfE!
In before the lock.
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Yes, in before the lock I moved the thread. I have to say it's encouraging to see so many trying to help instead of just flaming. However, best ROM or similar threads never last, nevermind those posted in Development. To the OP, learn to use search, read, study, and try things on for size.

[IDEA] Development for the welfare of our community

So why are we the only forum that has to have 40 generals for each rom, why are we not like every other phone where the chat about the rom is done in development? I feel this could alleviate a lot of the "RentaMods." Since i found it to be an easy way to find solutions to many issues... for example the galaxy nexus there roms they don't have 5 different threads for one rom... guess where people talk about the developers rom... in the developer thread... guys i know this is earth-shattering stuff... but let's just keep it simple one thread one rom.
I await my ban with GLORY, but i consider this development since it is essential to our community at e4gt xda since it is causing problems between many users.
this rom is the bomb!!
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So why are we the only forum that has to have 40 generals for each rom, why are we not like every other phone where the chat about the rom is done in development? I feel this could alleviate a lot of the "RentaMods." Since i found it to be an easy way to find solutions to many issues... for example the galaxy nexus there roms they don't have 5 different threads for one rom... guess where people talk about the developers rom... in the developer thread... guys i know this is earth-shattering stuff... but let's just keep it simple one thread one rom.
I await my ban with GLORY, but i consider this development since it is essential to our community at e4gt xda since it is causing problems between many users.
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I believe this belongs in development too. Because in a way you are Developing a better community.
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riggggght this belongs in dev, isnt this just like trying to be the forum police?? arent there already rules of the forum (stickied at the top of each section) that should take care of this...
as for this whole idea that talking in a dev thread should be fine, most of the chatter is the same damn questions every three pages! if everyone would not be lazy and again follow the forum rules 3/4's of most threads wouldnt exist.
my point is why do we seem to be the only phone that has a clusterfuck of twenty threads instead of a clusterfuck of one thread?
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riggggght this belongs in dev, isnt this just like trying to be the forum police?? arent there already rules of the forum (stickied at the top of each section) that should take care of this...
as for this whole idea that talking in a dev thread should be fine, most of the chatter is the same damn questions every three pages! if everyone would not be lazy and again follow the forum rules 3/4's of most threads wouldnt exist.
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Furthermore devs can request their threads be only development only, like the case of the CM9 thread, but why would we respect their wishes?
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my point is why do we seem to be the only phone that has a clusterfuck of twenty threads instead of a clusterfuck of one thread?
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i dont see why it matters what the general or q&a sections look like or amount of threads, thats what they are there for. why should everyone have the right to turn a dev thread into a clusterfuck?? as for the rest of the forums i only frequent the nook color section and the dev section is HEAVILY moderated and respected
I came from the EVO ROM section it's not half as ridiculous as this forum when it comes to being watched. I don't think I ever posted in the general section for a ROM. Yes the questions get redundant but most of the time it's just as easy to answer the question as it is to ***** that it's in the wrong section or that it's a frequently answered question. Not to mention that a lot of people troll these roms from tapatalk or the xda apps which offers virtually no convenient search functionality. yes Google works but not half as well a everyone acts like it does. It took me 30 minutes to search for a specific thing that had been "talked about frequently" in the forum through google. but could have been answered easily enough and in less time then it took to post a lmgtfy link. it's a forum people are going to ask questions it's the purpose of the site period.
All it comes down to is this.
Certain devs request certain guidelines for their development threads.
Do they have the right to request that?
I think so.
And being as the devs make the community, their wishes should be respected.
Not ignored and spit on.
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Plus have you looked at the general section lately? People post **** about iPads.....iPads! Which have absolutely nothing to do with e4gt at all! fav modems, games, stupid **** that has no specifics about a particular rom at all. Random rants who wants to dig through that kind of **** to find an answer to a question that a developer or senior member who has been in the forum for a bit can answer in a short conscious answer. I answer plenty of noob questions because I know a while ago I was in the same place.
I don't consider myself a "DEVELOPER" but I've posted couple of roms.
I don't want to have multiple threads for my roms because it will take more time from me to follow all of them.
I think, if you have questions, bug reports, problems with my rom you should ask, talk, report them in rom thread so the members of the forum who use my development can find all the questions and answers in one thread.
And it's easier for me to keep eye on all problems related to my rom.
Just my $0.02.
samuel346 said:
this rom is the bomb!!
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THANKS!
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samuel346 said:
this rom is the bomb!!
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ethandissi said:
THANKS!
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This is exactly the type of junk which QA and General are trying to keep out of the Dev forums..
And now we have one more!!! [idea]:what:
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This ROM is giving me the blue led light of death!
This thread is a travesty.
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OP has a point... in the OG epic forums most threads had just the dev thread, and the threads could be really helpful and relatively BS free, like midNIGHT, or 500 pages of insanity like viper or ACS... but really there wasnt ever ROM threads in general. I assumed this was an EVO thing, as I had heard that forum was nuts with kids posting inane crap and flaming... idunno. It seems like this phone attracts a lot of disgruntled people... tons of minimodding and attitude... sad really. Its not like the community for this phone is so big that we cant keep out dev threads relatively clutter free, but some members choose to flame everyone who asks a ROM RELATED question in the ROM thread... makes no sense. If you REALLY feel you need to censor and judge the validity of every post in the precious Dev section, DONT respond with another post, ignore them till someone helpful (theres usually one or two who 'troll' every rom helping people out... bastards...) answers their question, and YOU flag the oh so offensive post and even PM a mod, maybe we will get a clearer picture that the minimodding creates WAY more posts than the questions or occasional side topic.
Also, I think this is a little different now, as back on the OG Epic, a lot of dev discussion was done in the threads, not IRC (I havent been in a chatroom since like '99) or ROM specific websites, or PM.... everyone was involved. Really if you weed out everything that isnt ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT of the given ROM in a thread, you would have about two pages... so whats the point of the Dev section? I think theres a lot of much undeserved elitism going on where people dont want to be bothered by all the tapatalk notifications because someone else has a question... try just actually looking at the thread and see if theres an update to the OP or something... but lighten up... this phone has a lot of stick up the ass people... get over yourself.
To be honest, I pretty much only see 2 threads at most for a given rom, one in general and one in development. If you hear of a general thread being referred to, then it shouldn't be hard to find and use it.
Want to hear ironic? For whatever reason, the general thread gets ignored, so the dev thread is overrun. Where do people move to continue development, teamwork, and quality help? The general thread.
When did you first see the aokp rom? :sly:
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I agree with OP about the need for only one thread. I've been on Xda since the G1 days...never seen anything like it. Problem is that Android is more widespread these days...means lots of newbs.
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agat63 said:
I don't consider myself a "DEVELOPER" but I've posted couple of roms.
I don't want to have multiple threads for my roms because it will take more time from me to follow all of them.
I think, if you have questions, bug reports, problems with my rom you should ask, talk, report them in rom thread so the members of the forum who use my development can find all the questions and answers in one thread.
And it's easier for me to keep eye on all problems related to my rom.
Just my $0.02.
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And if would have read earlier in the thread you'd see that the decision to have two threads (one for questions and such and another for development) is totally up to the developer of the ROM himself.
While some don't want that, others do.
And I don't see what's so hard about complying with what they want.
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Which ROM I have to choose?

Hi guys! I deliver this phone yesterday.
It uses stock 2.3.5 and I want to upgrade a newer version.
I see many roms but really do not know which to use with.
As for my expectations from rom. I need as everybody stability, performance and good battery life.
I need your opinions.
From now thanx for your advices.
If you bothered to read any stickied thread in this forum you'd have an answer for this.. It amazes me how not one person reads forum rules or stickies before asking the same question daily...
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NFleck said:
If you bothered to read any stickied thread in this forum you'd have an answer for this.. It amazes me how not one person reads forum rules or stickies before asking the same question daily...
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Reading stickies/forum rules aside; if you're gonna ask a question that's been asked a hundred times before, why not, at the very least, revive one of the multiple dozens of threads where that question has been asked already instead of creating more useless clutter in an already irreparably cluttered board?
Hey, at least he's not asking how to root, or what's with the error after flashing CWM over official ICS
Lol. Yeah that's true.. Its funny if you go back to the sub forum there's (estimate without actually checking) probably about 5 asking what's the best ROM, or how do I root.. Meanwhile there's like 2 or 3 stickies explaining it... In the same exact page!
Um all for forum activity, and a live forum is definitely better than a dead one but come on people seriously.. I'm not trying to be a jerk and sorry if it comes off that way but I've only been a registered member for not even a year and it does get frustrating. Just try to read some posts before making a dumb one.. If you have a question its pretty much guaranteed its been answered.
The forum rules, which are actually a global announcement if I'm not mistaken; clearly state that if you're too lazy to experiment with the ROMs and find out for yourself which one is best then this isn't the right place for you.. And I wholeheartedly agree. I've only had the p930 since last November or so and I've been testing ROMs since day one and I've never once had to ask how to root or which ROM to use... That's the whole fun/enjoyment of android dev IMO.
There's my two cents. If you honestly still can't find an answer then there's probably no hope. Get a friend to mod your phone.. Lol
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Lol. Yeah that's true.. Its funny if you go back to the sub forum there's (estimate without actually checking) probably about 5 asking what's the best ROM, or how do I root.. Meanwhile there's like 2 or 3 stickies explaining it... In the same exact page!
Um all for forum activity, and a live forum is definitely better than a dead one but come on people seriously.. I'm not trying to be a jerk and sorry if it comes off that way but I've only been a registered member for not even a year and it does get frustrating. Just try to read some posts before making a dumb one.. If you have a question its pretty much guaranteed its been answered.
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My conclusion is that the "Search this forum" box doesn't seem to appear for 95% of the people... I mean, that's the only logical explanation, right?
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My conclusion is that the "Search this forum" box doesn't seem to appear for 95% of the people... I mean, that's the only logical explanation, right?
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Seems that way eh...
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I asked a simple question, and need an opinion. Absolutely I had searched the forum,
there are so many different q/a posts. I have just confused.
Yes. I don't ask how to root or flash. I'm not new on android.
Maybe I know more than you think.
I this is the way you help other peoples who need help.
This is your satisfactionary.
If you don't want to help, just don't type anything. Let it be blank,
So may the others can share their opinions.
And I didn't post for you to chat here. You can send eachother pm (acording your thoughts) about people who want an opinion.
Btw. I don't need your opinion.
ibrahim244 said:
I asked a simple question, and need an opinion. Absolutely I had searched the forum,
there are so many different q/a posts. I have just confused.
Yes. I don't ask how to root or flash. I'm not new on android.
Maybe I know more than you think.
I this is the way you help other peoples who need help.
This is your satisfactionary.
If you don't want to help, just don't type anything. Let it be blank,
So may the others can share their opinions.
And I didn't post for you to chat here. You can send eachother pm (acording your thoughts) about people who want an opinion.
Btw. I don't need your opinion.
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Look, I'm glad to have you as a part of the community; there is not one single person who shouldn't be a part of what we have here. All I'm saying is that, instead of posting a new thread to ask a question that has been thoroughly covered in multiple other threads; why not, at the very least, revive an old thread for this purpose instead of adding more clutter to an already cluttered board? It's posts like this which are the reason that there are "already so many different q/a posts."
I never said or implied that you were new to Android, and I never once said or implied that you were ignorant when it comes to Android devices. Believe me, I'm far from knowing anywhere near what I would like to know; but I guarantee you that almost every single question that has been, and will be asked on this board has already been covered multiple times; including "which rom is best". The development section has discussions covering the bugs and gremlins for every ROM released for this device via XDA. No real need to read every single page of each threads, just skim the last few pages and you'll get an idea of where the ROMs stand in their current form.
With that being said, I DO apologize for being a complete jackass and for the tone which I put across; but the sentiment remains.
Also, I have put forth an answer buried in my reply here; although it is a little verbose and requires you to do a little more leg-work to form your own opinion... which is what counts the most.
The answers you seek are on the very page you posted this in...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206596
^ There you go.
If you want the latest Android experience (4.22), the best all around bet is probably the unofficial PAC-ROM + Wind kernel 1.7 or 1.8. Bluetooth works pretty well, I think the only bugs are the other common CM10.1 ones- 1080p recording crashes, hitting the power button while in the camera app crashes. If you don't care about bluetooth and just want speed and battery, check out JellyBAM- it is slightly less stable than PAC but it flies.
If you are ok with ICS (4.0X) then HO!NO!'s CM9, Liquid Nitro or HO!NO!'s V20f are solid.
But in the future, search around and do a lot of research before posting a question- on most forums it annoys the members to be answering the same questions repeatedly
OP no, just try for yourself....

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