ad4.netshelter.net
Takes forever to load, and no XDA content loads while waiting.
This is poor web design.
Please revise XDA so that site content loads BEFORE advertiser content.
MintJulep said:
ad4.netshelter.net
Takes forever to load, and no XDA content loads while waiting.
This is poor web design.
Please revise XDA so that site content loads BEFORE advertiser content.
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Are there any ads in particular that are taking a particularly long time to load? Please provide a screenshot if so. We hate ads that slow down the site too!
Theres a lot more flash that usual. Small price to pay, I figure. Im not exactly on the top donations list. Quality versus quantity is the point, I think.
No specific ads
The XDA page header loads.
Then beige nothingness for about 30 seconds or so while "connecting to ad4.netshelter.net".
I assume something eventually times out, and the rest of the page loads.
MintJulep said:
The XDA page header loads.
Then beige nothingness for about 30 seconds or so while "connecting to ad4.netshelter.net".
I assume something eventually times out, and the rest of the page loads.
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Thirty seconds is very long! Where are you located? Also, please benchmark your bandwidth at speedtest.net and paste the graphic result here.
I'm also experiencing this! I'm located in the Netherlands with Ziggo as provider. Sometimes about 30 seconds is correct. I'm also getting this a lot with media.xda-developers.com and pubads.g.doubleclick.net.
This is not always the case btw. Also it's not my internet connection because every other site loads just fine. Also the connection is 120/10 Mbit.
I'm using an Android tablet to access the forums and the Best Buy adds are making the site extremely annoying to use. I have to click on the add since I don't have flash automatically loading them, then I have to click on the "x" to close the add. It didn't use to be this bad but now it is happening on almost every page.
Yeah, Im getting tired of the ads all over the site. I am REEEEEAAALLLYY tired of the ones that are popping up from the bottom and block the forum until I click on the X to close. Now some dont even have that close option.
Right now its that stupid best buy buy back program ad.
As a donator I think they really need to go XDA.
You can disable the shockwave flash object in your internet settings, but then you still have this stupid box with a red X that floats around the middle of the page because it cant load.
If the mods need it, here is the (shortened) link for that ad....http://dcom.me/cD9wm
We hear you guys and are working on getting the annoying Best Buy ads disabled. It's a constant battle between paying the bills and not annoying users. We do our best to err on the side of not annoying the users, but sometimes we make mistakes. Thanks for understanding.
I don't mind ads, but the best buy ad at the bottom of the page is horrible. It actually keeps the area at the bottom of the screen from being "clickable", even when you close the ad.
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I don't mind ads, but the best buy ad at the bottom of the page is horrible. It actually keeps the area at the bottom of the screen from being "clickable", even when you close the ad.
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I understand the ads, and I'll click on them every once and awhile to help out, but that best buy one is very aggravating.
i agree with this! i feel as if we could make the ads on this site load alot more conveniently.
I notice that the Best Buy ad at the bottom is gone, thank you!
I don't mind the ads but that Best Buy ad was seriously driving me insane! lol Thank you!
Best Buy ad should be officially removed. Let me know if it anyone sees it.
Thx!
svetius said:
Best Buy ad should be officially removed. Let me know if it anyone sees it.
Thx!
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Thank you very much. I understand the adds, you have to make money. That add at the bottom made it to hard to use the site, and i actually installed an adblocker just for it today. Now i have disabled it.
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Best Buy ad should be officially removed. Let me know if it anyone sees it.
Thx!
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Thank you very much! All is well again.
A prime example of the damage that one bad ad and/or one slow ad delivery server can cause. I wonder how many people downloaded AdFree or AdBlock Plus or added a line into their hosts file tonight all because of a lousy Best Buy ad and a slow server halting progress on the page.
Is there any procedure in place for vetting new ads before they are served to this site? I get that the idea of an ad server is to exist in the background so that publishers can focus on the content, but is there any way to specify formats, types, and other parameters of the ads served here? If NetShelter was serving that Best Buy ad to all its tech publishers, there were probably a lot of pissed off users tonight across the network.
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A prime example of the damage that one bad ad and/or one slow ad delivery server can cause. I wonder how many people downloaded AdFree or AdBlock Plus or added a line into their hosts file tonight all because of a lousy Best Buy ad and a slow server halting progress on the page.
Is there any procedure in place for vetting new ads before they are served to this site? I get that the idea of an ad server is to exist in the background so that publishers can focus on the content, but is there any way to specify formats, types, and other parameters of the ads served here? If NetShelter was serving that Best Buy ad to all its tech publishers, there were probably a lot of pissed off users tonight across the network.
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Often it's hard to control the adverts you see on a site.
I use ad blockers on a number of sites, but more for giving me a "stripped down" experience on slow loading sites...
There is usually little control over what adverts you show, since it is the ad agency that does the placement of the adverts, and you use code that "includes" whatever advert they choose.
When it comes down to it, if needed, the code can simply be removed, which is what I believe was done in this case.
I have only worked with ad solutions that give me fixed control over the parameters and appearance of the adverts, so I don't know how this one worked.
I use AdBlock Plus and ad blocker add on for Firefox. They work great and block 99% of pop ups.
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Were any of you aware your being tracked on here
If you install
http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_...ack-plus-add-on-stops-the-tracking-paparazzi/
It then shows that
Four Companies are tracking what we do
AdNexus
Google Analytics (Ummmm strange name a bit Anal) if you ask me
Netshelter
Google adsence
These are Via Google Chrome
On IE there are 13 one being the Doubleclick
Nextaction
and quancast
So use Chrome seems safer on here the IE i have not tested Firefox
Guys come on what's going on
Why is this going on ?? and on here as well
Browsers/companies have been tracking your browsing habits for ages now. This isn't something new at all.
I have noticed it varies on sites but this is bad
Android centrol has just one but this has 13 in IE
i no they have been tracking and this prog stops them
But still not impressed at information being taken with out me knowing
And then we also have those vigilink redirects that pollute the outgoing links here on xda. They even use a script to hide the vigilink URL from your browser status bar. That script borders on malware.
Google An is to track how much people are on.
Google Ad is the ads on this site
AdNextus is also ads
And the other one you have you find out by your self.
These are all cookie-tags that enable behaviorly-targeted advertising. You can (and are) cookied on almost every website page you visit. This is a lucrative way for publishers to put ads in the face of relevant or in-market consumers that sell for a CPC/CPM much higher than generic RO display advertising... therefore higher dollar spends for companies who want to put their message/product out there.
Ever notice how you see a lot of the same ads on various sites? It's not coincidence.
I've been in the digital advertising industry for almost 10yrs, 95% of those companies mentioned above are all advertisers in one form or another.
You wanna talk about tracking? I heard your ISP *has to* save everything you do online for 2 years! Its an FBI law of some sorts..
Are there ad banners on this site? I've never seen one over here.
I guess its just to make surfing the internet faster due to to the fact it has stored our location, cookies etc.
There's an easy fix for tracking cookies, you can set your browser to ask if you want to allow a cookie when they try to set them and just deny the ones you don't need or want. Most of the time ads will try to set them by themselves.
Https everywhere is also a good plug in you should check out.
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People flip out too much about privacy. There is *too much paranoia.*
Adsense and Analytics is so that your search results and advertisements more closely match your interests and general search topics. Yeah, they're tracking what you do. What of it? What are they using it for, but to help you?
All advertising services track you. We live in a world where you are not guaranteed privacy by being on the internet. If you think you have a fleck of security, you're wrong. You're being tracked by everyone and everything; every website you visit logs your IP, from which they can often find your home address... are you scared?
Oh, wait, no harm has come of it. That's right. No need to worry, everyone.
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Just like to add, I actually appreciate not having to end all my google searches with 'for droid x' anymore. It's learned that my account tends to look for droid x information.
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People flip out too much about privacy. There is *too much paranoia.*
Adsense and Analytics is so that your search results and advertisements more closely match your interests and general search topics. Yeah, they're tracking what you do. What of it? What are they using it for, but to help you?
All advertising services track you. We live in a world where you are not guaranteed privacy by being on the internet. If you think you have a fleck of security, you're wrong. You're being tracked by everyone and everything; every website you visit logs your IP, from which they can often find your home address... are you scared?
Oh, wait, no harm has come of it. That's right. No need to worry, everyone.
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Just like to add, I actually appreciate not having to end all my google searches with 'for droid x' anymore. It's learned that my account tends to look for droid x information.
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Right, you post pics of your Vegas weekend on facebook, have your resume all over LinkedIn, have YouTube videos of your kids but get worried about silly ad cookies on public forums. It's the internet... the minute you plug it in you can be seen. Don't be paranoid and charge hard!
Dear staff members,
do you know that XDA makes browsing a hellish experience? Thanks to you my browser talks, shouts, yells, quirts, moans, sings. its not possible to use it without shutting down sound. I want to listen to some music while surfing? Forget it, XDA is here to push its intrusive ads. Why in the world do you even allow that, this is the most awful ad supported site i have ever been to, no other page on the web tries so deliberately to **** with my nerves. There should be a law forbidding this, you are trashing my internet experience.
Of course, you could have just posted in the Sticky thread at the top of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696660
i consider my report as intrusive as these ads and since they persist now for weeks they must have simply chosen to ignore your thread in which all the complaints are nicely contained so you wont have to see them. yet i see, hear and feel (cpu goes to a 100% when 10 flash ads are shouting at me through my browser) their ads.
*cough*ad block*cough*
sure man, i'll install ad blockers on all devices i work with. my girlfriends computer, my two laptops, my smartphone, tablet, office computer, friends devices when i visit them, public machines in library and internetcoffee. and then i have that silly flashblocker but i love flash and need to configure it for each and every page i visit.
on top of that, what youre saying hurts xda, using a flashblocker kills revenue - i want this site to prosper and i understand it needs ads and i click them gladly.
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Dear staff members,
do you know that XDA makes browsing a hellish experience? Thanks to you my browser talks, shouts, yells, quirts, moans, sings. its not possible to use it without shutting down sound. I want to listen to some music while surfing? Forget it, XDA is here to push its intrusive ads. Why in the world do you even allow that, this is the most awful ad supported site i have ever been to, no other page on the web tries so deliberately to **** with my nerves. There should be a law forbidding this, you are trashing my internet experience.
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Please note we hate this crap as much as you do. I yell at three people a day about ads with sounds, popups, etc.. but tracking them down is a nightmare. We don't just have the same resources some of the bigger guys do. But we try.
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Please note we hate this crap as much as you do. I yell at three people a day about ads with sounds, popups, etc.. but tracking them down is a nightmare. We don't just have the same resources some of the bigger guys do. But we try.
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thanks, at least i understand now its not something you do deliberately. wish you all the good luck to track them down.
js1999 said:
Please note we hate this crap as much as you do. I yell at three people a day about ads with sounds, popups, etc.. but tracking them down is a nightmare. We don't just have the same resources some of the bigger guys do. But we try.
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Whatever you are doing isn't working. So you need to either a) change ad format or b) change ad provider.
Thanks.
XDA and bad practice advertising...
Hi XDA, I've been a member here for quite a while. Recently something has started happening more and more which is beyond annoying.
Auto playing video adverts with SOUND ..
I am not sure what ad provider you are using, but you need to change this. I will right click on a few links to read and have them open up in a new browser tab. All of a sudden one of them starts playing a bloody ad with sound. I then jave to spend the next few minutes scrolling up and down the entire length of each tab page to try and locate and stop the frikking ad that is blasting out of my speakers and competing with the music I have playing.
It used to be once in a while, its now 50% of the tabs I open on this site.
XDA is one of those sites that is the hight of hackery and intellegence. Can you use that intellegence you have to force all adverts to be muted??
I can load an ad blocker and make the problem go away, but that means no revenue for you guys. I would rather not do that.
Having ads that just sh!t people to tears by annoying them to the maximum of your ability is NOT a good or long term way to raise revenue.
Come on guys, I expect better. Either change your ad supplier, make the default silent or remove video ad's from your page.
Warmly, Marty
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XDA and bad practice advertising...
Hi XDA, I've been a member here for quite a while. Recently something has started happening more and more which is beyond annoying.
Auto playing video adverts with SOUND ..
I am not sure what ad provider you are using, but you need to change this. I will right click on a few links to read and have them open up in a new browser tab. All of a sudden one of them starts playing a bloody ad with sound. I then jave to spend the next few minutes scrolling up and down the entire length of each tab page to try and locate and stop the frikking ad that is blasting out of my speakers and competing with the music I have playing.
It used to be once in a while, its now 50% of the tabs I open on this site.
XDA is one of those sites that is the hight of hackery and intellegence. Can you use that intellegence you have to force all adverts to be muted??
I can load an ad blocker and make the problem go away, but that means no revenue for you guys. I would rather not do that.
Having ads that just sh!t people to tears by annoying them to the maximum of your ability is NOT a good or long term way to raise revenue.
Come on guys, I expect better. Either change your ad supplier, make the default silent or remove video ad's from your page.
Warmly, Marty
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The ad company gets yelled at if they let through audio ads.
If there are specific ones, please let us know, and they will be yelled at by someone even more angry than usual.
Audio ads are not acceptable to us either!
Intrusive ads? Post here
awesome. Thanks for the fast feedback guys... I'll start taking notes... :good:
and right after this an audio ad for the milk drink "Milo" started playing.
I had 6 tabs open, all xda.
How is this for sneaky. The ad went for around 60 seconds. NONE of the ad screens had any visuals about Milo. so you have to listen and cant see where it is playing from.
I will say that ALL the audio ad's have been for Australian based stuff, products, stores and TV shows... at least the geo location is working...
Grrrrr
FFS, I've gone to porn websites with fewer invasive ads. I usually have adblock on, but today I'm on a computer while I'm at a library and one of your 50 flash ads on the home page kept re-centering the screen on it, so I couldn't scroll to view forums.
With ABP off, this website feels like it's a piece of crap run only to make money and serve no other purpose. Seriously, get rid of a few of the innumerable flash ads and replace them with static pictures or something. I can't imagine how many people get turned away when they see that crap.
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FFS, I've gone to porn websites with fewer invasive ads. I usually have adblock on, but today I'm on a computer while I'm at a library and one of your 50 flash ads on the home page kept re-centering the screen on it, so I couldn't scroll to view forums.
With ABP off, this website feels like it's a piece of crap run only to make money and serve no other purpose. Seriously, get rid of a few of the innumerable flash ads and replace them with static pictures or something. I can't imagine how many people get turned away when they see that crap.
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Youknow, there's a thread about this? It's even stickied in THIS VERY FORUM.
We don't like bad ads either, but sadly, the way advertising networks work, we actually need to know about said ads.
Report ads you find bad here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696660 (ads like popups, autoplaying sound etc)
I'm closing this thread, feel free to PM me if there is anything
You have huge animated ads all over every page. That is a very poor way to optimize a web page. I have a low end gaming rig and it's powerful enough that I should be able to browse the web. Yet this site crashes all my browsers. Also I refuse to use adblock because it spits viruses causing popups into chrome which make me have to reinstall chrome. However when I did have it installed other than the random mouse click popups it caused the site worked fine. I know you need to make money but it's not easy to make money if you are making a slow website that causes issues when trying to navigate the site. You don't have to have gigantic poorly animated banners all over the site that are honestly rough on the eyes. Thus making me look away from the ads. Please! please! please! Optimize this site better. This is why people use ad blocking software! Thanks. =)
@s4shield, post here.
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@s4shield, post here.
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I was going to the only thing is that it's most of the ads on the site. Not a specific ad. Thanks