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Android Market separation?

Hi,
If someone can explain this to me ...
I found out that there is separation on Android Market, user from certain countries cannot purchase certain apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6046360&postcount=4
Why is that?
So, if I am in the UK, I can only purchase apps that are available ONLY for UK market?
I could not think any single reason of this kind of decision will help the customers and the developers.
Why is it not just ONE SINGLE Android Market for EVERYONE?

Well. Nobody really knows. Its very annoying. Its the same story here in Denmark. No paid apps on non-rootet phones with Market enabler.
HTC and google can not give us an answer to why or when paid apps will be availble for us.

Indeed, this is very annoying and I could not think any benefit of it.
I am just wondering, is there anything like this on iPhone? There is in WM, but I believe Microsoft decided to change that on WP7.
I hope Google will change this decission to make Android more attractive to software developers.

I suspect that the country filtering is present for several reasons.
1. Country specific applications. There is no need for an app that only applies to i.e. the UK to be displayed in Asia or in the US.
2. Copyright and trademark issues. Arrangements needs to be done in each country as laws are different.
3. Localization. I assume that Google does not want to add paid apps support in countries not yet fully localized to the local language. This was the case when Android was initially released. The G1 was released in the UK and in the US, and paid apps did not become avaliable until Android had been localized to for example German or French. Once the translations were complete, paid apps followed shortly after.
While Android is currently localized to several other languages, Norwegian included, these translations are far from complete, and needs some additional work.
Hopefully it should not take so long, but hey, who knows.
I will download the localization strings in a short while, and try to perfect them a bit more. After all, Android is open source.

Actually it does make sense for some application to be available in only one country. To give you an example, why would someone in the UK be interested in an application about traffic in Copenhagen? When a developer publishes his app he can chose to make it available for all countries or just for specific countries. Blackberry App World has something like this and I'm not 100% sure but I think the iphone also.

And what if you want go to Copenhagen?
Are free aps also separated or is it just payed ones?

syd2o2 said:
And what if you want go to Copenhagen?
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Exactly! Also, I don't think copyright would have anything to do with it. AFAIK, it wouldn't matter which country you made your app available to. If it's copyrighted and you disctribute it, you're in trouble.
I can't imagine google getting involved in copyright issues for each and every app. Im pretty sure they would shift liability to the developer/provider in their terms and conditions.

Localisation exists for the following reasons.
1. Language. You can make 1 app that supports all languages, but if there is a lot of text this would cause the app to bloat with unnecessary stuff. simpler to make apps for each language/region.
2. Localisation. The dev may decide there is no point in his app being available outside his particular locale. The first App i noticed this with was to do with the American Presidential elections. Of course I can still see a lot of US specific Transport Apps here in the UK, because the dev has decided it would be worthwile people from other regions having them (holidaymakers for instance).
3. Payment. If you set up an app for worldwide distribution it is priced in your own local currency. If you price an App for a specific region it is priced in that regions currency. This means the price of an app will not fluctuate with exchange rates, which may make people more likely to buy.

I live in Denmark, and as i understand it, the reason why we cannot have the payed apps here are because Google and the telephone companies have not agreed about how the payment modells are to work.
-They both want to big a cut of the cake.

Heh, the funny thing is that Google owns Admob, and their own Adwords service. They essentially makes a lot of money regardless of whether the developer chooses to support it through ads or through direct sales.

I stumbled across this website last night which lists (what looks like) every app on the Android marketplace, along with a QR Code (3D Barcode).
http :// www . cyrket . com
Could this be a workaround to be able to get hold of applications not available in certain countries? It's just that I can't help but notice japanese titles on there with a Yen price next to them.
I've just ordered my Desire today, but have been trying to find out which apps are available - I'm a little annoyed you can't just browse them on the android marketplace website!

Usually the QR code is just for a marketplace search, if it isn't available in your location or phone then you still can't download it.
The only way to bypass this is direct purchase from the developer or downloading the apk to install with an apkinstaller.

Then why there is not any alternative market?
You know, just a website which developer can submit their app there ... accessible via special app from the phone ... do the transaction via web
Like download.com Or cydia for the iPhone?
Microsoft will do it (single unified app market place) with WP7, why not Google? Strange ...

Ah I see, bugger... That's a shame.
Surely it's down to the developer to make it a global rather than a regional app on publishing to the marketplace?

Video Call

Hello,
I develop one program for call with the video.
It's possible to invoke by program a phone call via an intent :
Intent intent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_CALL, Uri.parse(url));
where the url contents the phone number.
How to specify that we want to make a video Call on 3G-UMTS and not a vocal call.
Assuming that we have the right phone, the right OS version, the right operator.

I don't think there is a public API (read: a generic action *) for that yet. Very strange but true. Video calling on mobile phones has been possible for more than 10 years, but Android doesn't support this generically yet.
edit: There is an issue open on this on AOSP. All we can do is chime in and ask for vendors and Google to make this public.
*: Using an explicit intent (with full component class) may be seen as code hijacking, some developers / companies don't take kindly to that, so be careful!

damn I need this function bec I am deaf. I need damn it..

Yes therefore made for the time Android is the manufacturers who have developed this module, so you do not know how they can proceed to make a video call.
And excuse me for my English, I'm French and I do not speak it very well

kkm883 said:
damn I need this function bec I am deaf. I need damn it..
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Well, stupid question maybe, but why not just use the stock dialer?
Or doen't video call work while on 3G? In that case there's very little you can do about it, because your mobile operator has to support video calling (some don't). If anything, keep trying new Fring & Sipdroid versions until there is one that works on the SGS...

miki4242 said:
Well, stupid question maybe, but why not just use the stock dialer?
Or doen't video call work while on 3G? In that case there's very little you can do about it, because your mobile operator has to support video calling (some don't). If anything, keep trying new Fring & Sipdroid versions until there is one that works on the SGS...
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Fring now works on the SGS, they fixed it. Get the latest version from the market.

Bing Maps is useless

Today I tried to use Bing Maps for ANYTHING.
Poland. Country where WP7 is officially sold.
Well this native app is a total useless crap.
The only thing I can find there is cities. THAT'S IT!
It is not able to find ANY STREET neither any place I am looking for.
Nothing.
So in fact it's a useless ****. The question is:
1. When Google will provide a WORKING app for WP7
2. Or do we know when MS will move it's ass and support countries they sell devices in?!

Yes, yes it is.
Oh and to answer your question.
1. I am guessing that Google doesn't really help the competition. There Google search app looks really bad on WP7.
2. Most likely, it will come with an update when they decided turn by turn navigation. Pretty certain of that because the website shows street names.

doministry said:
Today I tried to use Bing Maps for ANYTHING.
Poland. Country where WP7 is officially sold.
Well this native app is a total useless crap.
The only thing I can find there is cities. THAT'S IT!
It is not able to find ANY STREET neither any place I am looking for.
Nothing.
So in fact it's a useless ****. The question is:
1. When Google will provide a WORKING app for WP7
2. Or do we know when MS will move it's ass and support countries they sell devices in?!
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I agree that it is very limited, but I have found a way to make it work in Sweden. I have to set System locale abd Browser & search language to English (United Kingdom). Then you search for adresses with this exact formula: Streetname number, city, country. With these settings and formula, Bing maps have found every adress I've wanted in Sweden.

Strutten said:
I agree that it is very limited, but I have found a way to make it work in Sweden. I have to set System locale abd Browser & search language to English (United Kingdom). Then you search for adresses with this exact formula: Streetname number, city, country. With these settings and formula, Bing maps have found every adress I've wanted in Sweden.
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Thanks. I have my device set to these values.
But nothing. It says cannot find a desired place. The only thing it understands is cities. Even when I write it with the formula you showed.
BTW, you write it with comas?
Doesn't matter, whatever I do - nothing.
Pure crap.

doministry said:
Thanks. I have my device set to these values.
But nothing. It says cannot find a desired place. The only thing it understands is cities. Even when I write it with the formula you showed.
BTW, you write it with comas?
Doesn't matter, whatever I do - nothing.
Pure crap.
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Thats very strange... Whitout comas, it works 90% of the times. With comas, it works every time.
The maps are, however, very outdated. Buildings and streets that are three years old does show up in the searches, but they are not shown in the satelite pictures.

It might suck for you, but here in the UK, it works absolutely perfectly.

GenkaiMade said:
It might suck for you, but here in the UK, it works absolutely perfectly.
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ditto
Obviously can't comment outside of UK, but it does suck if it doesn't work in other countries without cocking about

It absolutely doesn't work besides city name search.
Doesn't find anything in Poland.
That makes me reconsider using this OS.
I have no slight piece of information when this will ever happen.

There will be google maps at some point. Google has a different business model to most other companies, it doesn't matter that they have android the idea is that they push as many google services out to as many people as possible (and that will include Windows Phone 7 users).
More users = more viewers/clicks on google ads = more revenue. About 80% of google's revenue comes from Advertising.

doministry said:
Today I tried to use Bing Maps for ANYTHING.
Poland. Country where WP7 is officially sold.
Well this native app is a total useless crap.
The only thing I can find there is cities. THAT'S IT!
It is not able to find ANY STREET neither any place I am looking for.
Nothing.
So in fact it's a useless ****. The question is:
1. When Google will provide a WORKING app for WP7
2. Or do we know when MS will move it's ass and support countries they sell devices in?!
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Yes, it is. The whole system is crap right now. And it won't be anything good for a whole friggin year. I've been waiting for voice nav for a long time and then I find out it won't make it in for at least a year, if even then.

have you tried using 'justanothermaps' i think its called, its based on google maps...might work better for you

Bing Maps sucks indeed
Bing Maps is just a terrible program...A real shame actually
I cannot use it in my country.
Bing Maps sucks...

Bing maps is FAIL! they should take it off as it destroys the platform. in my city, it only shows 4 roads! we need google maps now!

sergioiacobucci said:
have you tried using 'justanothermaps' i think its called, its based on google maps...might work better for you
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Thanks. But I can't buy this because of the Marketplace not supported in my country!!!!!

slighmd said:
Bing maps is FAIL! they should take it off as it destroys the platform. in my city, it only shows 4 roads! we need google maps now!
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Maybe take it off in countries it does not work, but in the UK it's great and I would prefer to have it.

The fact is it support almost nothing in countries like Poland.

doministry said:
Thanks. But I can't buy this because of the Marketplace not supported in my country!!!!!
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this could help
http://wmpoweruser.com/wp7-marketplace-enabler-brings-marketplace-to-new-countries/

domineus said:
this could help
http://wmpoweruser.com/wp7-marketplace-enabler-brings-marketplace-to-new-countries/
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Yeah, but I don't want to screw my PC.
And I don't use the PC version to buy apps but the phone one.

The U.S.
I can't believe Microsoft would sell a phone and not fully support the area that they are selling it in. It seems like something small and extremely stupid Microsoft would do. Hopefully they will fix that along with the many other little things that they decided to leave out on their system. From the U.S. standpoint though, I have got to say I actually like Bing maps a whole lot more than Google maps. I have used Android for a long time and I use everything Google. I decided to go with WP7, because it was newest and I loved the size of the HD7. Bing maps is amazing, it is what free GPS programs should be. I hope other companies take a look at this and I hope Microsoft updates maps to make it a worthwhile application everywhere.

doministry said:
Thanks. I have my device set to these values.
But nothing. It says cannot find a desired place. The only thing it understands is cities. Even when I write it with the formula you showed.
BTW, you write it with comas?
Doesn't matter, whatever I do - nothing.
Pure crap.
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Have you tried to open a contact and tap on the (map home) address. Then it should find the address at the map.

CoPilot Live Market Discount

INTRODUCTORY SPECIAL OFFER - COPILOT LIVE PREMIUM 50% OFF FOR 7 DAYS ONLY
As it says special offer i just paid £12.49 for UK and Ireland version via the Android market .
jje

Thanks for the heads up. Could anyone explain the difference between Premium and the normal one?

Anyone know how this compares to navigon?
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JJEgan said:
INTRODUCTORY SPECIAL OFFER - COPILOT LIVE PREMIUM 50% OFF FOR 7 DAYS ONLY
As it says special offer i just paid £12.49 for UK and Ireland version via the Android market .
jje
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Thanks for the heads up. Any differences you noticed compared to "regular" version?

Save your money and buy something that's worth it. CoPilot is worst navigation system I have ever seen!

I bought the full European version for £29.99 instead of £60.
It does annoy me that the USA Version is only £2 for Standard and £6 for Premium!
Navigon is a sack of sh1t compared to this (IMHO).
Each to their own, personally I think it rocks and for the money you cannot complain!

I bought CoPilot v8 at the beginning of May, when I got my S2. It cost me just over £20.
ALK have confirmed there is no upgrade path and all they will provide existing users (along with everyone else) is this 7 day, 50% discount.
After having a quick look at what this new 'Premium' versions offers, I think I'll be saving my money and wait for v10.
A reviewer wrote:
Stick with V8. Glad this wasn’t an upgrade!! V9 seems to have forgotten what SATNAV is for. Suggested routes are ridiculous. Every route needs editing, not good when at the roadside and all you want is to get from A-B. No routing prefs Shortest, Quickest etc. Road prefs if not on neutral make things worse. No town\city location display. Often looses gps fix. Display on Wildfire has grey pixelated areas and chopped off icons. ‘Not fit for purpose’ in many areas. Needs to be fixed – quick or Refund please!
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I will be honest i have yet to use any Sat Nav as i have yet to need one .
I know where i am going and dont get lost .Its there a s a maybe just in case .
jje

Anybody know if map updates are free (and for how long time)?
Does Copilot Live Premium support Danish menus and voice?
Thanks

Mittaa said:
Anybody know if map updates are free (and for how long time)?
Does Copilot Live Premium support Danish menus and voice?
Thanks
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Maps for the region your purchased are free. E.g. I bought UK and Ireland version (those maps are free). I can additionally purchase maps for other regions (e.g. Western Europe).
Regarding the voice, screenshot attached.
Overall this version is great. The UI is epic compared to the last version.

nobnut said:
Maps for the region your purchased are free. E.g. I bought UK and Ireland version (those maps are free). I can additionally purchase maps for other regions (e.g. Western Europe).
Regarding the voice, screenshot attached.
Overall this version is great. The UI is epic compared to the last version.
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Thanks a lot
I have been told that maps update should be free for 1 year.
Found a thread in Androidforums with a very useful user reviews of Copilot Live Premium ... scroll down to post from jalan94
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/363484-copilot-live-premium-released.html

Mittaa said:
Thanks a lot
I have been told that maps update should be free for 1 year.
Found a thread in Androidforums with a very useful user reviews of Copilot Live Premium ... scroll down to post from jalan94
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/363484-copilot-live-premium-released.html
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That is a very fair review I would say.
As for the maps, that may be true, I am not sure, but I don't believe it is. I think the cost of the Copilot app includes the maps.
There are additonal 'bolt ons' available within v9.0 which cost extra. I have paid for Traffic (£9.99 per annum), I would have paid for Fuel Prices (4.99 per annum) but it is not available in the UK presently.
The best part for me is the upgraded registration process. In v8.0 it was a nightmare and if you wanted to change from one device to another, it could quite literally make your brain bleed. It is easy in v9.0.
Overall, I am very happy, I am just jealous that I do not live in the US where this is extremely cheap. The cost of maps must be less for Copilot over there I guess.

Someone told me that CoPilot do not integrate with Android Contact
This should mean that it isn't possible to invoke navigation from an Contact address ... is this a fact (or a joke)?

If you're talking about selecting a contact in Android's Contacts app & navigating to it via CoPilot, that doesn't seem to be an option -- instead of opening CoPilot, it takes you into Google Maps. It may be the case that Android doesn't provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app; Google wrote the OS, so they set the rules.
However, you can select your Android contacts from within CoPilot.

3waygeek said:
If you're talking about selecting a contact in Android's Contacts app & navigating to it via CoPilot, that doesn't seem to be an option -- instead of opening CoPilot, it takes you into Google Maps. It may be the case that Android doesn't provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app; Google wrote the OS, so they set the rules.
However, you can select your Android contacts from within CoPilot.
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Android do provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app. IGO My Way is one confirmed example.

Is Copilot as good or reliable as tomtom? Tbh, I still find myself using my htc touch diamond for satnav since it has tomtom navigator on it. Honestly, all the other satnavs around are crap from what I've tried. They all have some fancy features or graphics which are nice or better in some way (like I use google satnav sometimes and it speaks actual road names which is cool, but no speed camera warnings) but overall, tomtom is the only one I trust and feel comfortable with and which holds my hand down every road. Can't wait till tomtom hits android.

Roman5 said:
Is Copilot as good or reliable as tomtom? Tbh, I still find myself using my htc touch diamond for satnav since it has tomtom navigator on it. Honestly, all the other satnavs around are crap from what I've tried. They all have some fancy features or graphics which are nice or better in some way (like I use google satnav sometimes and it speaks actual road names which is cool, but no speed camera warnings) but overall, tomtom is the only one I trust and feel comfortable with and which holds my hand down every road. Can't wait till tomtom hits android.
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I know how you feel ... I'm on my way to France on a 2x1800 km trip ...
Hate all this Facebook/Twitter **** on Copilot Live Premium, and just hope the navigation part will work!
IGO8 on Windows Mobile is the best satnav I ever have used, so I'll take my old Windows Mobile phone with me in case Copilot let me down.

Mittaa said:
Android do provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app. IGO My Way is one confirmed example.
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Thanks for the correction -- good to know that. I've been on Android for only a month or so, after having used WinMo since Windows CE 1.0 back in 1996.
BTW, I've seen several people mention IGO My Way on Android. However, I can't find any reference to it on Android Market, nor can I find an Android version on the IGO website. How does one get the software?

3waygeek said:
Thanks for the correction -- good to know that. I've been on Android for only a month or so, after having used WinMo since Windows CE 1.0 back in 1996.
BTW, I've seen several people mention IGO My Way on Android. However, I can't find any reference to it on Android Market, nor can I find an Android version on the IGO website. How does one get the software?
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Google --> IGO My Way Android

Problems - just me?
Hello all
I'm having real problems with mine at the moment. It locks up constantly usually when a planning a route but often when navigating and sometimes it hangs the phone too.
Mine's a very standard installation, not rooted and the phone is stable otherwise.
It might just be me but if not I'd say it's a long way from being release worthy.

Viber Beta out now ..but no voice calls !!!

Viber has released the official client for windows phone but sadly there is no voice support for it yet !!!!
Viber is available for Android, iPhone®, BlackBerry® and now for Windows phone®.
We are always introducing new features, platforms and possibilities.
Viber is completely free with no advertising, and we value your privacy: read our policy at http://www.viber.com/privacy
Get it, you’ll like it.
***WHY VIBER?***
* 100% FREE: Viber and all our features are completely free, with no subscriptions or purchases. Avoid mobile phone “bill shock” - text other users, on any network, as much as you want. All you need is a 3G or Wi-Fi Internet connection, and friends who get Viber too!
* SIMPLE TO USE: Viber just works, and lets you connect with your friends whose numbers you already have. It synchs with your mobile phone number and contact list to instantly show who already has Viber. Never again must you seek out your own contacts, create new usernames, or build new lists.
* VOICE COMING SOON: We promise that as soon as the full version is ready, we will make it available so will be able to use Viber for Windows phone to also make free calls to any other Viber user, anywhere in the world.
* AD FREE: Viber doesn’t accept advertising and promises mobile text and calls will always be free, and ad free. We also value your privacy: read our privacy policy at http://www.viber.com/privacy.
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Nice, but.. No group chat?!

Excellent!!! Downloaded and running. messaging is very fast. Can't wait for calls. All my contacts added without issue.

Not the same experience with my messaging.
Delayed delivery even on the wifi and also hardly any toast notifications. Tiles work fine. But only when I go to see if there is any new notification is when I realise since there isn't any toasts working (it is selected to be on!)

I can not even get messages to deliver!
Anyone having better luck than me??

Viber
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
Viber engineers have been working for many months now on voice support for Windows phone and we plan to get it to you in the next few months. Stay tuned as we will provide updates throughout the development process.
@mikeeam- We are Planning to have this feature on our future builds, stay tuned for updates
@drupad2drupad and @scott8629- What device do you have?
Thanks in advance.
Viber Team

Viber Team said:
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
Viber engineers have been working for many months now on voice support for Windows phone and we plan to get it to you in the next few months. Stay tuned as we will provide updates throughout the development process.
@mikeeam- We are Planning to have this feature on our future builds, stay tuned for updates
@drupad2drupad and @scott8629- What device do you have?
Thanks in advance.
Viber Team
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Sounds great I want to see what you guys come up with

So, after Windows phone 8 news.
Will Viber still implement calling feature for Windows phone 7.5?
If so, do you have any dates for it?

Hi,
Yes, our calling feature is being developed these days for Windows Phone 7 as well. Unfortunately we still don't have specific release dates, but we estimate that it will take up to a few months.

Viber - Full Final Version (WP7.5)
Viber Team said:
Hi,
Yes, our calling feature is being developed these days for Windows Phone 7 as well. Unfortunately we still don't have specific release dates, but we estimate that it will take up to a few months.
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Hi Viber Team,
I would like to know the actual status of final version Viber App with Voice Calls for WP7.5?
Do you have any news and/or release date for it?
Best regards

fbirraque said:
Hi Viber Team,
I would like to know the actual status of final version Viber App with Voice Calls for WP7.5?
Do you have any news and/or release date for it?
Best regards
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As I replied to you in the Private Message, we have made some progress but unfortunately still don't have specific release dates.
We are working around the clock, and we hope to have good news soon, which will of course announce

Viber Team said:
As I replied to you in the Private Message, we have made some progress but unfortunately still don't have specific release dates.
We are working around the clock, and we hope to have good news soon, which will of course announce
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But not even chat works fine right now. We have thousands bugs, at least fixing them would be nice already. We cant even participate on goup chat!

mikeeam said:
But not even chat works fine right now. We have thousands bugs, at least fixing them would be nice already. We cant even participate on goup chat!
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We are working around the clock to include group messaging and our calling features as soon as possible.
We apologize for the delay, and we hope to have good news soon.

Viber Team said:
We are working around the clock to include group messaging and our calling features as soon as possible.
We apologize for the delay, and we hope to have good news soon.
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Thanks for the update, good to know you are buys wokring on updates.
If you need beta testers for the voice calls let me know

Thanks for the update Viber Team!
We are waiting for!

any update on voice?
Thanks!

Consider it a dead joke. Most of the chat clients are on WP7 a dead joke. Each update ruins it further than fix it. Viber has taken over 2 years and still don't have enough resources to support WP7.

drupad2drupad said:
Consider it a dead joke. Most of the chat clients are on WP7 a dead joke. Each update ruins it further than fix it. Viber has taken over 2 years and still don't have enough resources to support WP7.
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Not sure if its Viber´s team fault. WP 7.5 doesnt have support to incoming VOIP calls in background, so not even Skype will work as it should, and it is Microsoft's own app. Viber will be pointless without that (despite the fact that its almost pointless now, at least you know you cant, different from "doesnt work").
It will be fully functional in WP8.

mikeeam said:
Not sure if its Viber´s team fault. WP 7.5 doesnt have support to incoming VOIP calls in background, so not even Skype will work as it should, and it is Microsoft's own app. Viber will be pointless without that (despite the fact that its almost pointless now, at least you know you cant, different from "doesnt work").
It will be fully functional in WP8.
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I doubt that is entirely true. For Skype its a different story as they have a totally different infrastructure. But we have Tango video calls and they do work pretty well with all WPs. Even worked on WP7! Skype already has VOIP calls (not in background) whereas Viber doesn't even have that yet. Also, keyboard autocorrect isn't even present! Background notification agent is delayed, the bug list continues. If you read their reviews and ratings on marketplace you would know that if I was developing Viber, I would shoot myself by now. But again, developing is a hard job. Viber is too small a company to take up this task perhaps?

@drupad2drupad -
We are doing what we can to develop and include our calling service on Viber for Windows Phone. As mentioned above, it is not such an easy task and you presented it, and as a company policy, we want to make sure our service runs smoothly and offers full functionality. Unfortunately we still are not looking for Beta testers, but we will certainly keep you posted once we have news.
All that while, please keep in mind that we have many *many* other projects running in our company, and they are spread over many platforms (and Viber for new platforms is actually on its way). So if considering we only have limited resources, we cannot only focus on WP. However, as I explained, we are working around the clock to bring our calling service to our fans, and we'll let you know once we have news.