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I want to remove the following from my phone;
Footprints,
Friendstream,
Teeter,
Stocks,
Peep,
HTC Mobile Guide,
News & Weather,
Weather
But when I go in through TB to uninstall I get a message saying that these are system packages and uninstalling them can trash things.
What effect will this really have my phone? Do I need any of them? I don't think I've ever used any of them, and don't think I will, although I do have facebook synced, and I use Beautiful Widgets for weather.
I used Titanium Backup to remove all of the aforementioned programs plus the Mobile NFL app. I would not touch anything related to the weather though since I have no idea what effect that would have on the rest of the system because I have not tried it myself.
One thing I can definitely tell you not to remove is anything and I mean ANYTHING related to Google Talk. I can tell you from experience how badly removing Talk can f'up your phone. The Market, as well other major apps and functions somehow all seem to be tied in with it for what reason I do not know (wtf Google?!).
You will lose Market if you remove Talk!
That said, before you remove anything, I suggest you back it up. TB will even allow you to "Freeze" an app before removing it to see what effect the removal will have.
Best of luck removing the bloatware!
bludragon742 said:
I used Titanium Backup to remove all of the aforementioned programs plus the Mobile NFL app. I would not touch anything related to the weather though since I have no idea what effect that would have on the rest of the system because I have not tried it myself.
One thing I can definitely tell you not to remove is anything and I mean ANYTHING related to Google Talk. I can tell you from experience how badly removing Talk can f'up your phone. The Market, as well other major apps and functions somehow all seem to be tied in with it for what reason I do not know (wtf Google?!).
You will lose Market if you remove Talk!
That said, before you remove anything, I suggest you back it up. TB will even allow you to "Freeze" an app before removing it to see what effect the removal will have.
Best of luck removing the bloatware!
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I'm curious what kinds of ill effects you saw from removing Talk? I wonder if HTC may have changed the integration of Talk within froyo, as I have seen no ill effects from removing talk. Maybe there is some kind of heinous error I am overlooking?
bludragon742 said:
I used Titanium Backup to remove all of the aforementioned programs plus the Mobile NFL app. I would not touch anything related to the weather though since I have no idea what effect that would have on the rest of the system because I have not tried it myself.
One thing I can definitely tell you not to remove is anything and I mean ANYTHING related to Google Talk. I can tell you from experience how badly removing Talk can f'up your phone. The Market, as well other major apps and functions somehow all seem to be tied in with it for what reason I do not know (wtf Google?!).
You will lose Market if you remove Talk!
That said, before you remove anything, I suggest you back it up. TB will even allow you to "Freeze" an app before removing it to see what effect the removal will have.
Best of luck removing the bloatware!
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thanks for the input - I'm trying to nail down an app that seems to be draining my battery, and I don't know what it is.
HTC/Google may well have changed the integration in FroYo but I know in Eclair everything was tied in with it. I'm going to freeze it and see what happens.
Edit: It appears the GTalk provider that was heavily integrated into previous versions of Android is no longer included in FroYo making it possible to safely remove the Talk app. Woo-hoo!
nukedukem said:
I'm curious what kinds of ill effects you saw from removing Talk? I wonder if HTC may have changed the integration of Talk within froyo, as I have seen no ill effects from removing talk. Maybe there is some kind of heinous error I am overlooking?
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I rooted my phone and kept the stock Eclair for about 2 weeks, till I had the time to check out the roms. I removed all of those AND GOOGLE TALK immediately after rooting. I never received the 1st error/problem from uninstalling Talk. If I remember correctly, there were 2 Talk items(service and storage...I think) that I removed. If you only removed 1, maybe that's where there errors were coming from.
I also removed it in a stock Froyo with no negative effects.
EDIT: Didn't remove the weather though. I left that on.
When I was on stock Eclair I removed both the service provider and the app which caused the Market and other system apps to stop working. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Look it up, it is a common issue!
When I was on stock Eclair I removed both the service provider and the app which caused ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop working. The Market and other system apps WORKED PERFECTLY FINE. How many times do I have to repeat myself? I don't need to look it up, it was not an issue for me!......as it may not be for some others......
Whoooa there seems to be some blue-dispute going on in here! My money's on the dragon cause a dragon would take a beast any day. J/K guys...
Seriously though, OP you can remove all the ones you've listed safely except the last two weather and news/weather. I don't know how your phone would react because I've never removed those. You could make a custom rom yourself based off one of the stock roms and remove everything you think you want gone and then nandroid your current rom and flash the experimental and see what shakes loose. Just an idea.
UPDATE - deleted old post...
So I just finished Rooting my phone and putting a new rom.
I used the following root guide:
[TUTORIAL] EVO Full Root|OTA Root|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing|for n00b's + videos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721055
Now I realized all my phone contacts are gone....
I wished he had put a disclaimer about that.
and what sucks is, I dont have a backup to those contact # either so im screwed.
Anyways my question is: Once I have all my contacts and I wish to change ROM.
Will I lose all my datas?
If I download a game app - IE - Tower Defense - will it keep game saved, unlocked maps, etc etc?
if it doesn't, how do I transfer contacts, game saved to the next Rom when I wipe (I assume wipe = format which it deletes everything).
I already forsee im gonna test all the roms out there but I HATE to re-put all my contacts over and over again...
im already mad I lost half of my contacts I wont be able to retreive.
with that said - I guess I have few more question than.
WHAT IS Nand Backup? what does it do?
What is Titanium Backup? what does it do?
Do I need 1 or both?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
In the op there is a link to google docs spread sheet that compares the most popular roms comparing there performance, battery life, extra features, what features it has working, ect.
nief1313 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
In the op there is a link to google docs spread sheet that compares the most popular roms comparing there performance, battery life, extra features, what features it has working, ect.
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Thanks for the link but it doesnt answer some of my other questions.
what kind of pre-loaded apps comes with each one?
you will have to individually check out their threads to find out what they have included/excluded, but for most of the ROMs, they generally include all the stock stuff(sometimes removed sprint apps or an easy way of removing them) and a few include an app for rom specific updates/changing profiles. besides that most of them dont preinstall any extra apps.
nief1313 said:
you will have to individually check out their threads to find out what they have included/excluded, but for most of the ROMs, they generally include all the stock stuff(sometimes removed sprint apps or an easy way of removing them) and a few include an app for rom specific updates/changing profiles. besides that most of them dont preinstall any extra apps.
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This man speaks the truff.
Most roms are pretty identical, just check them out and view which one you would like the most.
I suggest making a nandroid backup of what you have now and then installing different roms and testing them out. Find the one thats fits you and stick with it.
Evio is my current rom, it seems to be the only one where the cache is on the /cache partition instead of the data partition, and everything is working, he adds a few apps but you can wipe it to get the full 427MB for apps. also u can uninstall any sprint apps you dont want with titanium backup.
BTW good luck on the 60 fps, expect 50-55fps.
Use the evo kitchen. Search for it. Lets you make one to your liking.
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UPDATE - check first post for my new issues. Thanks to the previous posts answering my other concerns.
for starters save all contacts to gmail that will help you to avoid having to re-enter your contacts everytime, when you link your gmail to your phone it will pull your contact. since u already lost em id recommend going to gmail now and adding them manually, had my mom do this in the begining when she 1st got her moment, and i found out after the fact on my hero.
Nandroid is a full back up of your phones current state (rom wise). so when you have one set up the way you like it make a nandroid so when you decide to jump to another rom or you flash a soemthing you dont like you can revert back to your previous state. its like system restore for windows but 20x better.
Titanium backup lets you back up apps uninstall apps etc etc, it does alot, too much for me to explain, i say check out their site. also titanium back up is the one you would need if u wanted to back up apps and restore them on another rom.
Titanium back up was how i was able to keep my free copy of lets golf xD
I have never owned a Nexus phone so please excuse me if this is a dumb question. I currently have a rooted Thunderbolt running CM7.1. My understanding is that Nexus phones don't have any of the bloat apps preinstalled. I don't need/want Verizon's Backup Assistant as I use Google for my contacts. Does anyone know if this phone will have Backup Assistant pre installed? If so, will we be able to remove it without rooting the phone? I would like to get this phone and not have to root it.
That's a good question. They didn't install backup assistant on the iPhone 4 or 4S and contacts are transfered via an app you have to download from the app store so they may do something simular. However they did manage to get their mobile hotspot app pre-installed on the iPhones so we'll have to wait and see.
But with 4.0 even if they put it on the phone it doesn't really matter:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...G0bOQdSFFGZJ_MlZw&sig2=8-YNLP77mWCVakYh7N4t8Q
in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox
AllGamer said:
in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox
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What he was referring to was a Verizon app that is solely used to transfer contacts from one CDMA phone to another since they cannot be saved to a SIM like GSM phones. It's pre-installed on nearly every VZW phone, however to anyone in the know, it's kind of useless if you're going from Android to Android since all Google contacts sync to whatever phone shortly after you sign in to your account during the setup phase.
Your gmail backs up your contacts, backup assistant is not needed.
Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.
black05x5 said:
Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.
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Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?
qreffie said:
Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?
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and that same reason is why allot of carriers wont put ICS on thair phones!
Qreffie I did read the link you posted. Thanks so much, it was very helpful. I did not know ICS allowed us to remove apps until reading your link. I was agreeing with b15love when I reiterated that I simply don't need backup assistant. Thanks again for your replies. I'm excited for my first Nexus phone.
Hi everyone,
Quick question about MIUI's Backup App. I haven't used it yet, but I was wondering if I use it, what all will it actually backup for when I eventually switch to a new phone, root and install a build of miui. Obviously contacts don't matter because they're tied to my google account anyway, and apps don't matter either (and I doubt it backs up app data like game saves and stuff, right?) but I'm guessing it will backup my themes, folders, arrangement of icons, widgets I currently have active... What else? Also, when I get the new phone, i'm guessing I'd have to wait until I have all my apps & widgets reinstalled before running the MIUI Backup Restore option or else how's it going to rearrange my icons and all that after they're installed? So that would in theory be my LAST step after getting a new phone, right?
Thanks for the info.
I'd like to know this also
do not choose to backup/restore your contacts. When you use MIUI's built in back up for that, it will not sync with your google account, I found out the hard way.
MIUI's built in back up is a bad ass feature! When you back-up apps and data, I'm fairly certain that includes games saves and whatnot, I don't play games on my phone so I'm not 100% on that. But the homescreen backup actually remembers where you have your apps put, the location on the screen, folders, etc. the only thing that doesn't restore when you do this are widget's, I'm always having to put my weather widget back when I do an update.
You can also back up your data to the MIUI cloud servers when you sign up for an account
MIUI's Backup/Restore Application is amazing. It backs up literally EVERYTHING on your phone and when you upgrade your MIUI ROM, it restores EVERYTHING back to how it was before you upgraded, its one of the best features on MIUI, in my opinion. It takes out the hassle of re-installing applications. As far as I know, it should save your current game saves and states. It saves everything about an application. But make sure and not to backup your Contacts because they are synced to your Google Account. It duplicates your Contacts when you restore.
Hi all,
I am a conservative phone user.
What does that mean ?
It means that I want to do something, without it affecting everything else.
For instance: I want to have my emails on my ANDROID.
NO, I dont want my Google contacts in my contact list ... and ...
NO, I dont want to view Youtube videos constantly being logged into my Google account.
I want a perfectly "disintegrated" phone. Where one app doesnt affect all the others.
Also - I hate FACEBOOK, TWITTER and all the other SOCIAL SPY MEDIA out there.
I dont want them on my phone.
NO, I dont want to deactivate them
NO, I dont want to del the icon, just for the program to stay still.
I WANT THEM DEAD AND GONE
And YOU can hopefully tell me HOW TO accomplish these two things... Please
For the google account I don't know, but about the other app you can try to freeze them with titanium backup.
tomthemd said:
Hi all,
I am a conservative phone user.
What does that mean ?
It means that I want to do something, without it affecting everything else.
For instance: I want to have my emails on my ANDROID.
NO, I dont want my Google contacts in my contact list ... and ...
NO, I dont want to view Youtube videos constantly being logged into my Google account.
I want a perfectly "disintegrated" phone. Where one app doesnt affect all the others.
Also - I hate FACEBOOK, TWITTER and all the other SOCIAL SPY MEDIA out there.
I dont want them on my phone.
NO, I dont want to deactivate them
NO, I dont want to del the icon, just for the program to stay still.
I WANT THEM DEAD AND GONE
And YOU can hopefully tell me HOW TO accomplish these two things... Please
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Best way is to create a new gmail email address for your android mobile.
that email address would be anonymous.
Needs 2 GO
Thank You for the replies so far.
I would like to use my normal mail addresses.
The reason behind me disliking the current state is:
Google takes over the whole device. It literally takes a dump over all the phones functions.
I dont want that.
When I log in to my mailaccount, I want to do mails ... and not being logged into all google apps on the phone.
(and into the internet google stuff as well)
Now its with facebook and twitter that I dont want it to track, record and analyze my every move.
(Thats why it needs to go)
tomthemd said:
Thank You for the replies so far.
I would like to use my normal mail addresses.
The reason behind me disliking the current state is:
Google takes over the whole device. It literally takes a dump over all the phones functions.
I dont want that.
When I log in to my mailaccount, I want to do mails ... and not being logged into all google apps on the phone.
(and into the internet google stuff as well)
Now its with facebook and twitter that I dont want it to track, record and analyze my every move.
(Thats why it needs to go)
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What you want is not very easy to achieve.
If you are rooted, I guess it is much easier. the customisation can go deeper.
Steps (in my opinion):
1. At first run of the phone, don't log with google account! don't check any service related to google (keep my phone backed up with google account, for example).
2. before doing anything else, disable the apps you don't need. If you are root you can even uninstall them with some apk (as you are not logged to google, you can not use market, so the app should be saved on sd card before - via backup or whatever).
3. also disable the gapps you don't want (gtalk, etc).
4. remove the settings about the location. activate the mock location in developer section of settings.
5. log to your google account. immediately after, go to accounts and sync and:
a. disable sync (so that no google contacts are synced)
b. go to the settings of the account and uncheck everything that you don't want to be synced. i think you can do only this step, but it is your choice.
6. if you are root, you can install a program to further control the behavior of the apps. it is a personal option, there are multiple choices.
7. make a reboot. your phone should be free (or close) of any google 'integration'. any apps that you don't want to run should not run (twitter, fb, etc).
if I have skipped anything, anyone can update the steps.
Get an iPhone or WP
You can selectively sign out of all those apps. YouTube has the option. In Settings>Accounts & Sync uncheck everything you don't want to sync with Google. It's all there, you just have to set it up the way you want. You aren't being forced to are services you don't want to. The only things that need a Google account to work are Play Store and Gmail, for obvious reasons. Even Google Maps won't log you in automatically unless you open Latitude. YouTube signs you in but you can sign out. If you're using any version of Sense or AOSP GB, even the contacts app allows you to store contacts in phone only without syncing to Google. And it won't restore your Google contacts if you uncheck it in settings. In ICS, yes, the People app requires a Google account and can't store local contacts, but if it's THAT big an issue for you, just use a third party dialer like exDialer which has that functionality.
If you want a complete Google-free Android experience, flash CyanogenMod and don't flash Gapps after. You'll have a fully working Android phone minus Google. This also means you won't have Play Store and will have to sideload any apps you want, but that's your caveat.
And about getting rid of apps like Facebook and Twitter (which since you're unable to do, I presume you're running the stock HTC Sense firmware), read around and learn how to root your phone, and then delete the apks for those apps from /system/app. You can unroot after rooting, if that's an issue for you too.
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sashank said:
You can selectively sign out of all those apps. YouTube has the option. In Settings>Accounts & Sync uncheck everything you don't want to sync with Google. It's all there, you just have to set it up the way you want. You aren't being forced to are services you don't want to. The only things that need a Google account to work are Play Store and Gmail, for obvious reasons. Even Google Maps won't log you in automatically unless you open Latitude. YouTube signs you in but you can sign out. If you're using any version of Sense or AOSP GB, even the contacts app allows you to store contacts in phone only without syncing to Google. And it won't restore your Google contacts if you uncheck it in settings. In ICS, yes, the People app requires a Google account and can't store local contacts, but if it's THAT big an issue for you, just use a third party dialer like exDialer which has that functionality.
If you want a complete Google-free Android experience, flash CyanogenMod and don't flash Gapps after. You'll have a fully working Android phone minus Google. This also means you won't have Play Store and will have to sideload any apps you want, but that's your caveat.
And about getting rid of apps like Facebook and Twitter (which since you're unable to do, I presume you're running the stock HTC Sense firmware), read around and learn how to root your phone, and then delete the apks for those apps from /system/app. You can unroot after rooting, if that's an issue for you too.
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You are right with most of the points.
There is only one comment from my side: he does not need to root it. the applications can be disabled without root. the only drawback is the fact that the apps are still there, but they will never start....
Correct. He can do that too. But his issue was that he wants to get rid of them completely.
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tomthemd said:
Hi all,
I am a conservative phone user.
What does that mean ?
It means that I want to do something, without it affecting everything else.
For instance: I want to have my emails on my ANDROID.
NO, I dont want my Google contacts in my contact list ... and ...
NO, I dont want to view Youtube videos constantly being logged into my Google account.
I want a perfectly "disintegrated" phone. Where one app doesnt affect all the others.
Also - I hate FACEBOOK, TWITTER and all the other SOCIAL SPY MEDIA out there.
I dont want them on my phone.
NO, I dont want to deactivate them
NO, I dont want to del the icon, just for the program to stay still.
I WANT THEM DEAD AND GONE
And YOU can hopefully tell me HOW TO accomplish these two things... Please
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Lol, I know what you mean!
You might like LBE privacy guard if you are rooted. It let's you decide which apps can access internet, GPS location, phone id etc.
I also use mybackup pro to freeze a lot of the preinstalled junk that runs in the background. If you are freezing system apps take a nandroid backup first just incase you freeze something that you shouldn't!
There are some apps, which you wont be able to disintegrate without causing something else to crash.
Best way in my books is not to sign in using google under accounts, instead use email app to configure imap gmail.
Or even better, learn how to cook, and make a barebone ROM...maybe you can share it with us if you do get a ROM like that...
okty2k said:
You are right with most of the points.
There is only one comment from my side: he does not need to root it. the applications can be disabled without root. the only drawback is the fact that the apps are still there, but they will never start....
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Imo rooting is the only clean way to remove apps. Using an app to freeze apps causes a layer of crap running that will only hinder performance and potentially cause issues. What he wants is a non associated device. So I agree with rooting and then installing Aosp without gapps. Rooting is so easy anyways you might as well if you want that level of customization.
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Gizmoe said:
Imo rooting is the only clean way to remove apps. Using an app to freeze apps causes a layer of crap running that will only hinder performance and potentially cause issues. What he wants is a non associated device. So I agree with rooting and then installing Aosp without gapps. Rooting is so easy anyways you might as well if you want that level of customization.
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You can't freeze apps without root anyway. Freezing apps does not hinder performance unless you freeze something you shouldn't. There are performance benefits to be had by freezing junk that persistently runs in the background as long as you are careful what you freeze.
hans moleman said:
You can't freeze apps without root anyway. Freezing apps does not hinder performance unless you freeze something you shouldn't. There are performance benefits to be had by freezing junk that persistently runs in the background as long as you are careful what you freeze.
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Really? I thought some apps could do it without root, but I have never personally tried it, so you are right I'm sure, and it makes sense. I suppose I see the benefit of freezing too I just would rather remove things all together. Seems cleaner to me.
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hans moleman said:
You can't freeze apps without root anyway. Freezing apps does not hinder performance unless you freeze something you shouldn't. There are performance benefits to be had by freezing junk that persistently runs in the background as long as you are careful what you freeze.
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You can disable the app (without root). That way it will never start....