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*edit: as many people suggested in the posts. a new single forum for other manufacturers with 1 single subforum per maker might be a better idea than whats suggested in this post**
the mods have explained several times why they are not willing to support other non-HTC devices for various reasons over here so im not gonna ask that. i will however ask that the admins to consider spinning off another site to do that.
there are some other sites that try to do that but they ALL fail miserably because they dont have the ridiculously high number of smart users registered to them. to solve this major problem, i propose that the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site.
the new site may look something like
- windows mobile support and development forums
- htc built devices like palm,xperia...etc
- 1 subforum per device (more if its a very popular devices like xperia X2,omnia, toshiba tg10...etc)
I wasn't aware of the reasoning for no non-HTC device forums. You have a link?
Personally I think we should have subforums for the popular non-HTC devices like i780, Omnia, Epix, SG01, Asus devices, etc. But who am I?
there are many http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464635
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463252
and the reasoning is that "jack of all trades is a jackass" or something like that
THE GRIZZ said:
mods: please drop your whack-a-mole hammers and consider this
the mods have explained several times why they are not willing to support other non-HTC devices for various reasons over here so im not gonna ask that. i will however ask that the admins to consider spinning off another site to do that.
there are some other sites that try to do that but they ALL fail miserably because they dont have the ridiculously high number of smart users registered to them. to solve this major problem, i propose that the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site. all that is needed is for the user to confirm the newly created account in the new site (in case some of the users explicitly dont want to register)
the new site may look something like this
- windows mobile support and development forums
- htc built devices like palm,xperia...etc
- 1 subforum per device (more if its a very popular devices like xperia X2,omnia, toshiba tg10...etc)
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First of all, title is misleading.
Second, it's never gonna happen (another site needs more resources, which this site is struggling with.
Third, I give you one day before this thread gets closed.
Cheers
THE GRIZZ said:
mods: please drop your whack-a-mole hammers and consider this
the mods have explained several times why they are not willing to support other non-HTC devices for various reasons over here so im not gonna ask that. i will however ask that the admins to consider spinning off another site to do that.
there are some other sites that try to do that but they ALL fail miserably because they dont have the ridiculously high number of smart users registered to them. to solve this major problem, i propose that the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site. all that is needed is for the user to confirm the newly created account in the new site (in case some of the users explicitly dont want to register)
the new site may look something like this
- windows mobile support and development forums
- htc built devices like palm,xperia...etc
- 1 subforum per device (more if its a very popular devices like xperia X2,omnia, toshiba tg10...etc)
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And add ponderous, overlarge, and un navigatable
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just vote no and spare us your silly negativity. i was merely asking for them to consider it. if its a bad idea it will show from their replies and from the poll.
Third, I give you one day before this thread gets closed.
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stop suggesting them ideas. and they wont
Its so much easier to add a single "other devices" subforum (not even full section like what they are doing now for every single device device).
this way we all get the advantags of having non-htc devices without the extra work and headache that goes with creating full website page.
i like the " the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site" part though
My opinion is to leave XDA as it is now
Do not add more non HTC forums!
It will just make it slower
Should be around the net good forums for other brands
When have you saw a site together between reebok and nike?
Every one has its own stores
Just my 3 cents
i had the same idea when i bought my omnia
http://winmodevelopers.co.cc
this site deals with all of the non htc devices
((although may i remind you its no way affiliated with this site it just served as inspiration))
it already has a few roms and a marketplace was opened in january, and yes were stuggling with resources but thats the way it is in the shadows lol
any non htc winmo device can be added, although smartphones will be added through poularity
also we are moving the entire site soon to a dedicted server soon courtisy of QUICKSITE and this will take time but feel free to add your nuggets of info to winmodevelopers.co.cc
also take note its a very fimiliar format to xda so u wont get lost
(disclaimers : winmodevs is not an affiliate of xda-developers.com, the onlt connection is certain members including me who frequent both sites)
I think that would be really cool! The TG01 needs to have support from the wonderful ppl @ xda!
ive already got the tg01 there and now ive just installed a chatrrom for geeks
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just vote no and spare us your silly negativity. i was merely asking for them to consider it. if its a bad idea it will show from their replies and from the poll.
I apologize for your dismissiveness. Only thing I would point out; is that in any enterprise, diminution of effort is really a bad thing. Take the examples of the car cos. just to name a couple. Orb3000 has it right, I've got a motorola device. Found forums that are exclusive to that. I believe that works out the best.
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ive already got the tg01 there and now ive just installed a chatrrom for geeks
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Nice! Where did you get the TG01 from and for how much?
And guys, let's not be dismissive or overly negative like that please, we should try to be friendly.
jayjay8585 said:
i had the same idea when i bought my omnia
http://winmodevelopers.co.cc
this site deals with all of the non htc devices
((although may i remind you its no way affiliated with this site it just served as inspiration))
it already has a few roms and a marketplace was opened in january, and yes were stuggling with resources but thats the way it is in the shadows lol
any non htc winmo device can be added, although smartphones will be added through poularity
also we are moving the entire site soon to a dedicted server soon courtisy of QUICKSITE and this will take time but feel free to add your nuggets of info to winmodevelopers.co.cc
also take note its a very fimiliar format to xda so u wont get lost
(disclaimers : winmodevs is not an affiliate of xda-developers.com, the onlt connection is certain members including me who frequent both sites)
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the site in your signature has more forum sections than actual posts or members. in its current status, it cant complement xda-devs in any way
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When have you saw a site together between reebok and nike?
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Well as I understood HTC as a company has nothing with this forum?
And I'm sure reebok and nike wouldn't make site together because each of them want to sell it's sports equipment.
But, if some sport equipment lover make site about sport equipment I'm pretty sure there would be nike and reebok and many others.
I have HTC so I selfishly don't care if there are other devices on XDA-developers.
But if I buy some other non-HTC device some day I would really love to have support for it from great site like xda-developers
cheers
Can someone please explain to me how operating a forum with the amount of members and posts is not a profitable business?
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the site in your signature has more forum sections than actual posts or members. in its current status, it cant complement xda-devs in any way
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well firstly
Board Statistics
Our members have made a total of 272 posts
We have 341 registered members
and theres only bout 23 or 24 forums so that makes ur stateate very brash
secondly you think anything you start now will imediatly get 1.5 million members and chefs will flock and devs will batlle to host there crap on ur site, it doesnt work that way
ive worked really hard to get to the site in it urrent state and itll only get bigger
also you have to take into account everyone is eih ergreedy or impatient so if theres question asked on wimnmodevs then nobody sticks around too long because they wont answers now
so see as many little members there is that brilliant going when u rememerb the site only been opened for 6 months and xda has been going for years
but then again u sdont have to use it, thee are a few who are. but i mean if you really dont like it and if its that bad feel free to trawl around xda asking bout it when theres one there
btw this wasnt meant to sound *****y if it did i apologise im just saying if u want a new site at the drop of a hat that has this much support then it not happening im afraid site like this take time
Ok then. Whoever is willing to pay for the major bandwith and whatnot step right up and pay.
Usually I have never comment on those post ”we should get additional None HTC device listed here” but now I will give my 2 cents on this subject. THIS IS MY PERSONALY OPIONIEN I DON’T MEAN TO INSULT ANYONE!!!!:
I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY WE SHOULD NOT LIST NONE HTC DEVICES.
This forum has started to developt WinMo and during that time HTC were first manufucturer of such device. However this forum became so famous in last 8-10 years so that when you type anything WinMo related word in Google or any other search engine it leads you at least few times back to this forum. So with Such search engine power many old and new brilliant people come here to meet and share their knowledge. With Such knowledge base and information the searchengine crawlers are as I believe the most band wide consumer.
Now been this site so famous and this site been only on HTC devices, gives actually VERY BIG Marketing advantage to the “Company HTC” As I believe over the years HTC owns some of their popularity to this forum but DOESN’T HAS TO PAY SINGLE CENTS. I mean many other companies paying hard cash to make their names and their products popular in the search engines so that consumers can find them easily.
Furthermore we all here given so much feedback on our Dream devices or find so many mistakes on the current device models so that HTC itself can learn and align them self for future devices or even make correction on next produced patch for devices that are still in production. Again all these are for free of charge and without making expensive surveys. I assure you for HTC it is a kind of Gold mine here.
I personally believe competition amount of the manufacturer can bring only advantage to the consumer. This is for price and for quality!!!
Therefore As I believe continuing supporting only HTC devices here in XDA_DEV gives HTC big advantage on the mentioned COMPETITION and hurt as Consumer!!!
Be frank I don’t believe on those sister forums or what so ever (again I don’t wanted insult anyone’s idea it is just my opinion)
my simple mathematic is:
A forum based of people…people brings Knowledge/information…Knowledge/information brings search engines…. Search engines bring people.
From my experiences building a forum and been successful (popular) is very very Long and hard job
[FONT="]Conclusion of above I would say we should Support here also none HTC devices[/FONT]
redbandana said:
Can someone please explain to me how operating a forum with the amount of members and posts is not a profitable business?
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Look arround you will obviously see that this forums attention is not making money!!! But I do fully agree with you that there is alot of opertunity to turn this site to BIG CASH...
However according the websiteoutlook (http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.xda-developers.com) it stands not to bad there:
Net Worth $1.04 Million Daily Pageview 474342 Daily Ads Revenue $1425.48
I love XDA, I love the people here and I truly beleive there is no other place like it on the net.
I'm moving over to Android and I have already seen a few threads popping up around the subject on here.
My question is will the XDA admin be looking at extending support to other Android phones than the G1 including those made by other OEMs like Samsung and will the site carry on supporting those in the same way Winmo has been.
I dont believe Android is going any where and I would like to see the site expand to embrace it and continue been the number on place to use your phone properly as well as trying out new stuff.
PS Admin - feel free to change the title if you want.
Terran
The general rule on this site is that devices can only have a forum if manufactured by HTC.
Requests for Non-HTC Windows Mobile device forums have not been accepted by the admins, so I think it is safe to assume that Non-HTC Android device forums will also, not be created.
Thanks
Dave
Sort General Forum by OS?
Can I pose a suggestion here? I know that the site is for HTC devices and the devices now come in different OS flavours. Should there be a separation on the subforuns (fora?) by OS now? There are more threads for the Android (and it is gonna be big soon!) coming up and it is getting even more confusing to sift through the posts even more so on the General area and it would be easier for everybody to identify what they want and how to help. No offence here but some other sites already sort things by OS and it looks much neater the way they do.
Cheers! All the best.
DaveShaw said:
The general rule on this site is that devices can only have a forum if manufactured by HTC.
Requests for Non-HTC Windows Mobile device forums have not been accepted by the admins, so I think it is safe to assume that Non-HTC Android device forums will also, not be created.
Thanks
Dave
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i can understand why they would do such a thing. however. This site is THE best on the web for everything HTC but also for everything WINMO. there is a lot on here with the omnia and Xperia becausreit's the same OS. I think XDA-devs should allow other phones on here as long as the developers here are working on them then lets have the forums.
wovens said:
Can I pose a suggestion here? I know that the site is for HTC devices and the devices now come in different OS flavours. Should there be a separation on the subforuns (fora?) by OS now? There are more threads for the Android (and it is gonna be big soon!) coming up and it is getting even more confusing to sift through the posts even more so on the General area and it would be easier for everybody to identify what they want and how to help. No offence here but some other sites already sort things by OS and it looks much neater the way they do.
Cheers! All the best.
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no need for that imo....the forum is very precise and easy to use and there isn't much confusion...so no need for that....
and in a few years (hopefully) we will overcome WM and you will have WM manufactured devices running android and linux with great reliability
...i mean when did MS care for reliability
keridel said:
i can understand why they would do such a thing. however. This site is THE best on the web for everything HTC but also for everything WINMO. there is a lot on here with the omnia and Xperia becausreit's the same OS. I think XDA-devs should allow other phones on here as long as the developers here are working on them then lets have the forums.
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the thing in being strictly htc forum is that we do not want bunch of nokias and other devices around here...
the forum would be destroyed and not usable if there were all those manufacturers.....mobile telephones are one huge field and one forum can't deal with it
xperia is a htc...otherwise it wouldn't be in the forum...the omnia is not and there is no official forum for it.....but as you could probably see bunch of guys gather in the general forum...and that really sucks because they were asked not to and they still do (they do not respect the forum or pay any attention to it imo)....and mods can't deal with it because of their time and resources
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the thing in being strictly htc forum is that we do not want bunch of nokias and other devices around here...
the forum would be destroyed and not usable if there were all those manufacturers.....mobile telephones are one huge field and one forum can't deal with it
xperia is a htc...otherwise it wouldn't be in the forum...the omnia is not and there is no official forum for it.....but as you could probably see bunch of guys gather in the general forum...and that really sucks because they were asked not to and they still do (they do not respect the forum or pay any attention to it imo)....and mods can't deal with it because of their time and resources
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i apologise i didnt realise xperia was htc as well. no i too dont want nokia users here lol. i suppose the compromise is keep the forum htc phones but allow in depth use of the resources for the OS's. android has a place here as it is used by h... you know what i'm writing this and thinking to myself actually I DONT want loads of other phones here. I like the fact that XDA-devs are the best there is and you do that by being a specialist not a generalist.
so to summarise. keep things as they are.
what a waste or forum space this post was. I am ashamed.
i did have an android section on the winmo site but ive took it down until there is an actual need for it to be there
at the minute there ist a lot of non htc android device but they are coming so until that time there is no point in me havineg an android section thats gonna stay empty until there is interst
but when the devices come and you need a forum then hit me a line ill start putting android forum support again
Hey Everyone,
As mentioned in my earlier post (please read if you have not yet already), we are considering adding non-HTC forums to the site, and are curious to hear which ones should be first. We're considering devices such as the Motorola Droid/CLIQ, plus the Samsung Omnia II and/or Acer neoTouch. What are your thoughts? We're listening!
P.S. The below excerpt is taken from my first post, and should help answer some questions.
svetius; said:
Finally-- and hopefully this doesn't cause a mass uproar-- we are considering the idea of selectively adding non-HTC device forums (focused on Windows Mobile and Android devices). Every day we get requests from users for this, and there's really no good reason why we cannot oblige them. Already the discussion is happening in the general forums. That said, we will only add new forums if: 1. We are confident added traffic won't cause site speed to suffer; 2. We can recruit quality moderators; and 3. The content and discussion is of high quality. The only way to know these things for sure is to try it out. So, within the next 14 days we are going to add two or three non-HTC forums. The delay is to ensure the site continues to operate at a reasonable speed and so we can figure out where to put the new forums (the forum homepage is already absurdly long and cluttered). We are open to suggestions as to deserving devices for our first non-HTC forums, so give us your ideas in this thread.
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MOD EDIT - The following devices are due to be added Thursday morning (CET time):
Acer neoTouch F1 S200
Acer Liquid A1 S100
Samsung Omnia II
Toshiba TG01
There may be a slight delay in adding these so no more request for the above devices
HP iPAQ HX4700
HP iPAQ HX4700, even though it is a HTC made device, would love to have a forum for it, willing to moderate as i have plenty of spare time
Much Thanks
Badwolve1
PS, YES!!! Second Post on both threads
Long overdue!
At last !
This is a very nice forum, resourceful , frequented by the "developers" yet user/noob friendly.
People like me were / are dismayed when requests-questions for non HTC devices are placed in the hacking forum where you just cannot keep track of the threads.
More and more WM/android based devices are launched now and we should have a separate forum for them.
Maybe we can first demand a few requests for a particular device before starting a dedicated forum so that it would not fizzle out in the long run and the whole site becomes cluttered unneccessarily.
From my experience, the most requested one is: Omnia
I think the droid should make the first entry, its really popular. But thats just my opinion.
hell,whose idea was this...??
you are breaking our firs tenant which says "made by a firm called HTC"
we stood for the idea for a long time and prevented such forums to be crated and now comes some "user experience admin" who works for the "unhappy samsung motorola crowd" selling some controversial ideas
come on people,don't be ridiculous...
GREAT,just great....you could also say hello to iPhone and crappy nokias....which we fought for a long time.......great job traitor
Yes, OMNIA II and why not iPhone?
An i780 forum won't be bad too. This is the best site for i780 even if it's not (yet) officialy supported. There are several roms for it on xda and there's also an android porting for this device.
Maybe a brand forum will be great too. For example a samsung or acer or anythig else forum with some subforums like rom developemente, q&a and general discussions.
ajhvdb said:
Yes, OMNIA II and why not iPhone?
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Omnia 2 is winmo, this forum is for WINMO + ANDROID ONLY!!! iPhone can go somewhere else for the people who like it
I still want one for my HTC MADE IPAQ, its in the WIKI under HTC Roadster
but hey this is..or at least was htc forum and not winmo and android forum...so...if we are expanding towards samsung,motorola and some others,why don't we go for apple too
think about it
i mean i'm not supporting any of that but....higher force wants to try it out,so if we are opening our gates for non htcs....apple is also nonhtc...so what's the difference
Toshiba TG01
Acer S200
Omnia 1 and 2
If Xda is considering to open new foruns, lets open for new top mobiles that are/were best sellers
Thanks for the feedback thus far, it's helpful. We're indeed going to stick with just Windows Mobile and Android.
But on the other side allowing non htc mobile will mean let in any mobile. So admins, how will you then manage all this?What about server load and all the technical things it will bring along?And also will there be enough staff to monitor the behaviour of each and everyone? This is no simple question. Right now I see xda dev as a small group providing quality support and devs, what will it be then? Many bloggers refer to xda dev website, it is a turning point on the htc platform. Wont allowing other brands in kill this image?
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But on the other side allowing non htc mobile will mean let in any mobile. So admins, how will you then manage all this?What about server load and all the technical things it will bring along?And also will there be enough staff to monitor the behaviour of each and everyone? This is no simple question. Right now I see xda dev as a small group providing quality support and devs, what will it be then? Many bloggers refer to xda dev website, it is a turning point on the htc platform. Wont allowing other brands in kill this image?
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i talked to svetius via pm and this was almost the same thing i said to him
and for the
svetius said:
Thanks for the feedback thus far, it's helpful. We're indeed going to stick with just Windows Mobile and Android.
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what about "brew" platform which comes with new htc smart
maybe the "xda-developers.com" should be changed to "apple-haters.com" because as i see everything except apple is welcome
just to make it clear....i'm absolutely not voting for apple (although i love macs),i'm just giving you something to think about...pointing finger towards the paradox so everybody could see it
yash08 said:
But on the other side allowing non htc mobile will mean let in any mobile. So admins, how will you then manage all this?What about server load and all the technical things it will bring along?And also will there be enough staff to monitor the behaviour of each and everyone? This is no simple question. Right now I see xda dev as a small group providing quality support and devs, what will it be then? Many bloggers refer to xda dev website, it is a turning point on the htc platform. Wont allowing other brands in kill this image?
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As mentioned in my first post earlier today...
We will only add new forums if: 1. We are confident added traffic won't cause site speed to suffer; 2. We can recruit quality moderators; and 3. The content and discussion is of high quality. The only way to know these things for sure is to try it out. So, within the next 14 days we are going to add two or three non-HTC forums. The delay is to ensure the site continues to operate at a reasonable speed and so we can figure out where to put the new forums (the forum homepage is already absurdly long and cluttered). We are open to suggestions as to deserving devices for our first non-HTC forums, so give us your ideas in this thread.
I hope this helps.
I say expand to the iPhone field....wouldn't hurt to add it to the forums....we can say we hate it and that it suxs...whatever. XDA harbors people that want to push their phone's limits. I've been a follower of XDA for a while now, even when I had my iPhone, because the amount of talent in these forums are awesome. I say open the flood gates and bring in iPhone OS to the table. Droid and the new Dell Android would be great as well. My 2 cents
I kind of want to see a forum for the HTC Smart, running that Brew OS and a forum for the Android SE Xperia X10 and WM X2.
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but hey this is..or at least was htc forum and not winmo and android forum
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Official or not, this site has ALWAYS been a winmo forum. Given that HTC's devices mostly ran winmo, that's pretty much unavoidable - unless you think that all discussion/development of software that runs on non-HTC winmo devices should be banned, anyway. And the same goes for Android, now that it comprises ~half of HTC's product lineup - unless you think that half of HTC's current phones should be banned from an 'HTC forum'.
YES to new forums
I've been following XDA-Devs for quite some time now (over a year and a half, to be exact) ever since I gleefully bought my AT&T Tilt, and then was frustrated with it within a week. Prior to that, I have owned & happily modded several PPC's. I lurked on these forums for over a year before joining and asking anything. Almost every question I had was answered by patiently searching. So Junior Member, yes. Noob...not quite.
That being said, I am very heavily leaning towards replacing my battle-scarred Tilt with a Samsung Omnia II instead of a TP2 variant. Lots of pros, very few cons, at least for the things I use my device for the most. One of the BIGGEST cons, however, would be that I would lose the guidance, support, knowledge and hard-earned wisdom of the people that post here by straying from HTC.
And so I hesitate.
I've likely read posts into the multiple thousands here, and despite the device or app, or even OS under discussion, one theme runs through it all:
We love messing with our phones.
Better, stronger, faster, smarter, louder, brighter, more fun ..... ad infinitum.
So, for the sake of that common goal, I say add new forums. Break them down by manufacturer. Even iPhones. All those people that bought one, only to discover the limitations of their expensive "cool" new phone? Let's help those poor saps too, ok?
YES to new forums!!
As all we that know that Nokia source code now 100% open.
can u make a firmware developer forum for nokia where the developers can made changes in nokia firmwares like windows mobiles?
Is it possible that
I can make the forum, I will buy the domain, hosting everything, just suggest me a good domain name and I will take care of the rest
which one u want like xda forum or other?
i think its good and there is not any domain name like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia
Oh if you want a sub-domain under xda-developers, then there's nothing to buy, the admins will have to look into this.
And although Symbian is opensource now, Nokia firmware development is unlikely to happen, because the Z drive on Nokia devices, which is the ROM, is locked. And I don't think anyone has succeded in unlocking it permanently so far.
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Oh if you want a sub-domain under xda-developers, then there's nothing to buy, the admins will have to look into this.
And although Symbian is opensource now, Nokia firmware development is unlikely to happen, because the Z drive on Nokia devices, which is the ROM, is locked. And I don't think anyone has succeded in unlocking it permanently so far.
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Now z drive of nokia phone like 5800XM which is very good phone is now unlocked by some developers, please visi this forum to see that :-
if this is happen then please make a sub forum Nokia in XDA for developers to cook its own firmwares of Nokia.
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=448745
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Now z drive of nokia phone like 5800XM which is very good phone is now unlocked by some developers, please visi this forum to see that :-
if this is happen then please make a sub forum Nokia in XDA for developers to cook its own firmwares of Nokia.
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=448745
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Oh thats cool then, the last Symbian I used was N95 8GB, it was hard to do then. Well the admins already said XDA-Developers will only be dedicated to HTC devices, so a Nokia sub-forum is unlikely to happen. But if you can get some developers who are interested in this, then I can make a separate website for it, something like nokia-developers.com or symbian-developers.com
HTC only?
If you scroll down the forum homescreen you'll see other WinMo/Android devices outside of HTC. Maybe the question was asked in the wrong way to the admins. I don't think we're looking to really mod Nokia devices. However, as Nokia begins to release more devices with "Intel" chip-sets the development community may see some shift towards working on Nokia hardware/firmware.
What we currently want is to do is explore and develop the new and open source Symbian ^1 ^2 ^3 ^4 and ^5 into ROM's that load onto our beloved HTC devices.
Compatibility and open-ness are driving the new information economy. Symbian has some pretty darn cool stuff like N-Gage gaming, support to play "Digital Copy" movies, etc...
Imagine being able to just transfer your digital copy movie over to your HD2 or TouchPro 2 because your PC thinks your device is a 5800. Right now you'd have to convert the digital copy through some illegal method.
Apple locks down their devices to prevent us from doing this kind of work. We're a community of open, intelligent and capable minds/people. This community should not be so "Apple" like and prevent open development.
I'm also suggesting, just as there was on the Rhodium page for Android, a bounty issued for Symbian ROM development.
A Nokia forum wouldn't make sense. Nokia only owns a majority of the Symbian platform. What we really want is a Symbian forum on XDA. We want this so that we have a single source of information on an important topic where we know that we truly have experts working on the issues and solutions. XDA could experience major growth by doing this and attracting Symbian developers. Symbian is closely related to WinMo as it is so this wouldn't be a daunting task for developers. C++
To be honest, I don´t think this will happen.
totalperception said:
If you scroll down the forum homescreen you'll see other WinMo/Android devices outside of HTC. Maybe the question was asked in the wrong way to the admins. I don't think we're looking to really mod Nokia devices. However, as Nokia begins to release more devices with "Intel" chip-sets the development community may see some shift towards working on Nokia hardware/firmware.
What we currently want is to do is explore and develop the new and open source Symbian ^1 ^2 ^3 ^4 and ^5 into ROM's that load onto our beloved HTC devices.
Compatibility and open-ness are driving the new information economy. Symbian has some pretty darn cool stuff like N-Gage gaming, support to play "Digital Copy" movies, etc...
Imagine being able to just transfer your digital copy movie over to your HD2 or TouchPro 2 because your PC thinks your device is a 5800. Right now you'd have to convert the digital copy through some illegal method.
Apple locks down their devices to prevent us from doing this kind of work. We're a community of open, intelligent and capable minds/people. This community should not be so "Apple" like and prevent open development.
I'm also suggesting, just as there was on the Rhodium page for Android, a bounty issued for Symbian ROM development.
A Nokia forum wouldn't make sense. Nokia only owns a majority of the Symbian platform. What we really want is a Symbian forum on XDA. We want this so that we have a single source of information on an important topic where we know that we truly have experts working on the issues and solutions. XDA could experience major growth by doing this and attracting Symbian developers. Symbian is closely related to WinMo as it is so this wouldn't be a daunting task for developers. C++
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Well I own the domain symbian-developers.com, I can setup a forum there if you people are interested.
totalperception said:
If you scroll down the forum homescreen you'll see other WinMo/Android devices outside of HTC. Maybe the question was asked in the wrong way to the admins. I don't think we're looking to really mod Nokia devices. However, as Nokia begins to release more devices with "Intel" chip-sets the development community may see some shift towards working on Nokia hardware/firmware.
What we currently want is to do is explore and develop the new and open source Symbian ^1 ^2 ^3 ^4 and ^5 into ROM's that load onto our beloved HTC devices.
Compatibility and open-ness are driving the new information economy. Symbian has some pretty darn cool stuff like N-Gage gaming, support to play "Digital Copy" movies, etc...
Imagine being able to just transfer your digital copy movie over to your HD2 or TouchPro 2 because your PC thinks your device is a 5800. Right now you'd have to convert the digital copy through some illegal method.
Apple locks down their devices to prevent us from doing this kind of work. We're a community of open, intelligent and capable minds/people. This community should not be so "Apple" like and prevent open development.
I'm also suggesting, just as there was on the Rhodium page for Android, a bounty issued for Symbian ROM development.
A Nokia forum wouldn't make sense. Nokia only owns a majority of the Symbian platform. What we really want is a Symbian forum on XDA. We want this so that we have a single source of information on an important topic where we know that we truly have experts working on the issues and solutions. XDA could experience major growth by doing this and attracting Symbian developers. Symbian is closely related to WinMo as it is so this wouldn't be a daunting task for developers. C++
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But i dont think any one would really want a Rhodium page for Symbian,though. I think it would be best if there was a seperate website for Nokia/Symbian developments.
orb3000 said:
To be honest, I don´t think this will happen.
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Me too I don't think this will happen, maybe follow The Pro suggestion of openning another domain for this...he is willing to do it...
gmaniac2008 said:
Me too I don't think this will happen, maybe follow The Pro suggestion of openning another domain for this...he is willing to do it...
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I'm ready whenever you guys are
I agree new domain would be better. I liked Symbian-developers.com
coz there is many symbians accept nokia.
and by the way NGAGE days is over.. they shut down nGage for good.
now there is only OVI like Market in android
ruslanriad said:
I agree new domain would be better. I liked Symbian-developers.com
coz there is many symbians accept nokia.
and by the way NGAGE days is over.. they shut down nGage for good.
now there is only OVI like Market in android
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Well I can begin as soon as I get some symbian developers to agree on start posting on the new site.
The PRO said:
Well I can begin as soon as I get some symbian developers to agree on start posting on the new site.
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Good Luck
Please post on the site what phones should be added and what forums should be there
http://symbian-developers.com/
Such a shame there obviously isn't much interest in the newest Nokia phones.
I really think with the N8 and C7 Nokia took a big step forward and I'd love to see them get the recognition they deserve for it.
Unfortunately they might be a year or two too late.
I think, if there was a Symbian Forum on XDA-Developers, it might be way more successful than an external site. So I very much +1 the TO request.
BTW: Does anyone know if apps for the N8 and C7 are interchangable?
Greetings.
PS: Can a software branding be totally removed from the C7 / N8?
As many of you already know , nokia and microsoft are partners from now on , and some people are really looking forward to it. I can't wait to see Nokia windows phone 7 phones out there. I was wondering what do you guys, on this forum think about it? Does it have a future or not? . For those who didnt see it but you probably did, check out the nokia-confirmed-concept-for-first-windows-phone-7-devices/"]concept of the prototype's (btw this is confirmed from nokia)
It will suck just like all nokia smartphones!
julisbulis said:
It will suck just like all nokia smartphones!
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You registered just for that?
To the OP: Nokia makes excellent hardware with very good build quality (N8 for example), and has some outstanding services and other applications I think will benefit anybody with a wp7. So with wp7's great UI and their great Hardware, I am eagerly awaiting a release of an upper end phone from Nokia.
Now we just need faster OS updating and we could be in for a great ride. Here's to hoping.
@markomarkogame,
Hi and welcome to the forums. There have been many threads created about Nokia and WP7, in which there have been discussions just like the one you're starting.
You may find that they are very useful and that it is somewhat unnecessary to start a new thread. We encourage users to search before posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951732&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880622&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950065&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951292&highlight=nokia
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dtboos said:
You registered just for that?
To the OP: Nokia makes excellent hardware with very good build quality (N8 for example), and has some outstanding services and other applications I think will benefit anybody with a wp7. So with wp7's great UI and their great Hardware, I am eagerly awaiting a release of an upper end phone from Nokia.
Now we just need faster OS updating and we could be in for a great ride. Here's to hoping.
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hey sry im new to forum. gotta get used to it.
anyway ur right at what u said. i remember when my nokia phone fell on floor, and i say Dont worry its nokia
markomarkogame said:
hey sry im new to forum. gotta get used to it.
anyway ur right at what u said. i remember when my nokia phone fell on floor, and i say Dont worry its nokia
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The first comment was directed at "julisbulis" who apparently registered just to say they are going to suck lol.
Nokia Windows Phone is 'absolutely stunning’
"Absolutely stunning." That’s how everyone that's been shown Nokia's new Windows Phone 7 smartphone describes the device. This is according to Nokia’s Conor Pierce, general manager for UK and Ireland, in a one to one interview with Pocket-lint.
"To the partners we have shown the device to, their words, not necessarily mine - although I agree - upon showing it to them. It's spontaneous and unprompted. They say ‘the first Nokia Windows Phone is absolutely stunning’ and that’s die hard gurus in this business, who have thick skin," boasts Pierce.
"For them to say that spontaneously without any sales pitch shows what we are bringing is pretty spectacular. And that’s only the beginning.”
The phone Pierce is talking about is, of course, the soon to be announced, and hopefully soon to be released, Nokia Windows Phone. Dubbed Sea Ray and already enjoying its fair share of leaks, it is the company’s first foray into the Microsoft Windows Phone 7 operating system and the phone that it hopes will help it turn around the fortunes of the once proud Finnish mobile phone maker.
"I’ve actually got one in my pocket, but I can't show you," he teases, leaving Pocket-lint unable to confirm the opinion of so many gurus.
Pierce, who also adds that he has "seen what’s coming," is very confident that the launch of Nokia Windows Phone 7 devices in the coming months is going to be the success that the company so drastically needs.
Rest of the interview here if anyone is interested: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42235/nokia-windows-phone-7-stunning