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this is just personal opnion, but this version blows away the 3/31 build. i juss had issues with data not wrkn but i fixed it with the tips in the threads. I hear people talk of stability. well, to me, this new sense version moves way faster and smoother. really. juss make sure to cut off the 3d harware box..it isnt wrkn and will slow things up. i have more features working in this install than the 3/31 build.
my last install didnt load all the folders right and i never saw a keyboard selector or update. checked thru everywhere in device, no luck..but it still worked, i juss couldnt auto update and i was getting hung up trying to change the files. Now, with this new install...everything is perfect..lol i know have "andboot" folder....my last install named it "Android" and no matter how many different ways to change folder name or replace, it didint work. Now all i gotta do is auto update..which i did with this install also..wrks perfect. now my my dual boot wont recognize it...i tried to different versions the 1.05 and 1.06 Gene Y dual boot cabs, no luck..not worried though, i figure it soon enough.
almost half the day been on Sense...i always keep a charger close by. lol for all the skeptical people, wifi does work..i tested it..its pickn up signals...my 03/31 install didnt wrk..as far as wifi goes...im making and recieving phone calls...juss set your calls and txts and emails to vibrate...it works..all my data wrkn perfect...i got opera mini 5 up here along with a ton of stuff i downloaded..lol
A smart move to do is to use your Astro Explorer and press menu to back up data/apps..u can bck up all ur dwnloaded stuff from the market or wherever..and be able to reinstall them if u ever reinstall a new xdandroid version or somethng. ive did install/uninstall numerous times already..so knowing i still have my programs backed up is good. get opera if u havent....its way faster thn the android one. i got programs im dying to use once everything wrks on this build like my morse coder or the virtual walkie talkie apps..i cant say enuff how truly amazed with this forum, its members, and the Feats being accomplished here. and they do this for free...Unbelievable...THANK YOU DEVELOPERS N ALL WHO MADE THIS BUILD POSSIBLE. i cant wait to show this off to my pops and friends back home...ima blow their mind...
Im staying with Sense 2.1........cuz IT MAKES SENSE...lmao
to me this is better than last version and moves faster, at least on my tilt2 it does...oh and if u want true speed readings, get the Speedtest.net app frm da market..its free... if u think im pulling your chain on this build, juss look at da sig..im on android sense now on xda app..wit no problems..im goin crazy ova here on how cool this is...i just joined this site not too long ago n already got my phone on a whole new level of being upgraded..i got all da fixes. 3D DRIVERS...DA LIST Goes on and on..too cool
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How did you disable 3d hardware?
Love the sense interface on android
jebuske said:
How did you disable 3d hardware?
Love the sense interface on android
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in your startup.txt change hw3d.force=1 to hw3d.force=0
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in your startup.txt change hw3d.force=1 to hw3d.force=0
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Or if you're using the startup utility then just uncheck the box.
i think I've confirmed that rooted apps and WiFi tethering works on this build. i downloaded barnacle wifi tethering app from the marketplace that said ur device needed to be rooted in order to work. well it seems to wrk. i know wifi wrks for sure and data, so therotically should. i gave my old tilt to my mom so cant test right this second but the program runs fine and commands say its broadcasting successfull. goodnight..lol
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Which installer did you use? The .cab or the .rar?
demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
hey
this is a great version and i think its basically usable for people who arent dying for the GPS, bluetooth, and camera. the one thing that is killing it for me though is the lack of the speaker and headphone jack working. that is the only features preventing me from using it all the time.
i know these guys are making great progress but does anyone have any idea when theyre gonna at least solve that issue? because im sure that would bump up its mass appeal
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this is a great version and i think its basically usable for people who arent dying for the GPS, bluetooth, and camera. the one thing that is killing it for me though is the lack of the speaker and headphone jack working. that is the only features preventing me from using it all the time.
i know these guys are making great progress but does anyone have any idea when theyre gonna at least solve that issue? because im sure that would bump up its mass appeal
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They work on this daily. It could be tomorrow, it could be never. There is no time line, or guarantee.
demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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its pretty stable, to me. it isn't my default OS yet but keeping it on longer and longer everyday. I be pushing da limits on this build. as far as apps and modding Android within itself. essential functions wrk like being able to make/receive calls, txts,data,WiFi...I can even do WiFi tether wit app I found on marketplace. I had marketplace wrkn but I messed around and now its saying serve error but my gsm and data wrk fine...marketplace acts funny at times..lol ill get it wrkn again soon, already deleted data img. I get tired of reading all my settings and apn and downloads..I hve alot..there's some good tool apps on mrktplce
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demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
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I tried to get that version but the link was messed up or actn up...ill tke your advice and try it out..
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I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
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ok well that is a damning summary coming straight from the horses mouth! Thanks for all the advice everyone, sounds like AOSP 2.1 is the way to go for stability. Can't wait to try this out. I won't have to switch between my G1 and Avantage for much longer.
i downloaded that 2.1 no sense last night after i posted. I installed it juss like any other build but couldnt get it to finish the haret loading. 3/31 2.01and the 4/23 2.1 w/Sense builds i had no problem installing and running. I even checked the folders and it was all correct, in the andboot folder with all the necessary files in it. Even updated the 2.1 AOSP b4 running it the first time. the first time right after haret started up, it got hung up in the beginning..so i rebooted to try again. this time the haret ran the loader all the way till the end and got hung up right b4 the startup screen. said something about trying to init. pid or something. it kept on searching and repeating the command but no luck. i shut it down after i seen it aint gonna load up..lol i really do wanna try this build also but get tired of uninstalling and installing and setting up all my settings again. i have a ton of downloaded apps for the android already. after no success, i just installed the sense one again. Wrks wit no problems..lol
Theres ways to make it run faster within the os itself. I found alot of good memory manager apps and startup auditors. The reason i believe it runs laggy at times is because of all the programs always starting up without u even doing anything. U gotta kill apps all the time. I cant remember the name, but i have this memory app tool that lets u set a minimum and maximum MB for ur programs. For example i set it to 50mb, the program starts killing off apps in order of priority in order to maintain at least 50mb threshhold. works pretty well to me. i might try that 2.1 no sense build again another day but im stickin with the Sense build for now. It has potential..lol
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ok well that is a damning summary coming straight from the horses mouth! Thanks for all the advice everyone, sounds like AOSP 2.1 is the way to go for stability. Can't wait to try this out. I won't have to switch between my G1 and Avantage for much longer.
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Don't get me wrong, Im not saying you shouldn't try it. Different people have different tastes, you might LOVE it!
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i downloaded that 2.1 no sense last night after i posted. I installed it juss like any other build but couldnt get it to finish the haret loading.
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Ill build a new cab within the next day or 2. You're not the only one that had problems with the AOSP .cab.
thanks,..im sure we all will be Patiently waiting..lol
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They work on this daily. It could be tomorrow, it could be never. There is no time line, or guarantee.
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yeah im glad theyre working on it either way, but ill only start using it as my full time OS when they get that feature in at least. but it sure is fun to mess around with in the meantime
yeah, i believe its gonna come soon. I be away from my phone alot and need to hear it when a call comes in or i get txts, or "BACKGROUND Notifications"..lol that made me laugh...thinkin of somethin someone else told me in another thread.. I believe Reefer posted up the new cab for the 2.1 non-sense version. I havent gottn to try it out yet. Im still havin fun with the Sense version. Plus finding out how to cut the Sense UI off is a big plus for me. Now everytime my device boots into Android, It asks me what UI i want to use. Either Home, Sense, or Launcher. if i use home or launcher , it loads right up. Not like when using Sense and its loading forever. I like it cuz i have the option to choose.
I've got three questions for this terrific community, hopefully somebody has either noticed them and fixed them as well or might be able to help otherwise. Not rooted. Thanks in advance for your assistance!
1. AVRCP : After initially testing out great, my stereo bluetooth headset's controls no longer seem to control my music. Using a Southwing SA505 headset and the basic Sense music application. Music still plays through the headset fine, I just can't control it using the buttons on it. Has anybody had similar experiences?
2. Panoramic Camera Shots : Not technically a problem, but coming from a Touch Pro, I was just wondering if anybody knew of a way to get this functionality working on the otherwise superior camera app on the EVO. As I recall, it wasn't enabled by default on Winmo either and had to be reg hacked in.
3. Sense Crashes : No huge deal, but worth asking. My presumption is that perhaps I'm using ATK and being too aggressive, I usually get crashes when manually killing processes, but since ATK remembers what I've excluded I don't understand why it just happens sometimes and not others. Any suggestions on processes I should avoid killing in order to avoid this?
Thanks again all!
I'm going to be that guy and tell you to get rid of ATK. It does more bad than good.
Let's kill the ATK deal before it gets started. It works for some, not for others...let him decide. When you have basically no 3rd party apps installed and still see a nice smoothness change when running atk, it's hard to argue against it. But like I said, some people are not seeing any difference, so just let it be.
1. AVRCP: I an using a Motorola T505 with no problems. I can use the controls on the unit to Pause, NextSong, PrevSong, etc.
3. ATK: Sounds like it is killing more than it should. I run ATK several times a day with no crashes ever. I have had my Evo since June 4th.
May want to try to hold off on using ATK for a few days to ensure that something else is not crashing HTC Sense.
Good luck!
I use AVRCP on my Jabra BT3030 and so far it works great. Only really used it with Last.fm but it pauses, and skips fine
Thanks to all for their responses so far!
Re: ATK, yeah...I may be a little too quick with it, I've got it set on 'Safe' auto-kill on screen-off and it rarely if ever crashes Sense there, it seems to be when I do it on my own. I do it out of a desire to save battery life, surprise surprise, but I think I will back off.
Re: the AVRCP, what makes it extra odd is that it worked for me on the first day and not since! I was pumped when it worked, it made that 'out of box experience' extra nice when 'things just worked' lol, now...not so much.
Nobody else notice the missing Panoramic shot ability or care? No deal breaker, but it was kind of cool on the TP and I had hoped with the increased capabilities of the hardware and of Android that it might be even cooler now on the EVO, perhaps HTC just completely did away with it?
I absolutely loved the panoramic mode on my former HTC Diamond. I've been looking for an app that does it as well and have found nothing.... let me know if you do - thanks!
The Andropan app says it can take panoramic pictures.
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@iKimodragon : Thanks for the info! I'm downloading this now, though one of the comments within Market said that it crashed on EVO. I'll give it a try and report back. Re: my question about AVRCP, does anybody have any suggestions on how I might fix this issue even if they aren't having it themselves? Perhaps some kind of cache to clear, drain my headset comepletely, so on and so forth? Thanks again.
Update on Andropan : Unfortunately it appears as if the comment on the market that I read was right on target, the program ran but after taking the first picture froze and I received a 'force-close' message soon thereafter. Thanks for the suggestion though!
Hey, did you get anywhere as far as getting the AVRCP profile to work on your EVO again? Seems like there are a few others (as well as myself) suffering from this on the Beyond Pod forum as well. No answers yet.
One of the things that nagged at me as a plus for the Droid X was panoramic shots. They looked pretty good. My little 3.2 on the Raphael (fuze) could do panoramics and I really liked it. (Ironically my $400 Luminex doesn't do panoramics...ticks me off.) So my phone was the only way.
I'd love to see panoramic pics...not sure if it could ever be pulled out of the droid and set up for the evo. They both have same size cams...no idea if hardware is same.
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Hey, did you get anywhere as far as getting the AVRCP profile to work on your EVO again? Seems like there are a few others (as well as myself) suffering from this on the Beyond Pod forum as well. No answers yet.
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Unfortunately I never did figure anything out, and as you can see within this thread, that quickly died, that nobody else ever offered any suggestions on that issue. Perhaps some renewed interest will drum up something, here's to hoping!
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3. Sense Crashes : No huge deal, but worth asking. My presumption is that perhaps I'm using ATK and being too aggressive, I usually get crashes when manually killing processes, but since ATK remembers what I've excluded I don't understand why it just happens sometimes and not others. Any suggestions on processes I should avoid killing in order to avoid this?
Thanks again all!
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(If you're still using ATK)
When I was still using sense, and ATK, I had the HTC calendar widget running on a home screen, and I found that if I scrolled over and it loaded into memory, then I locked my screen (and ATK would auto kill apps) when I came back to the home screen it would have to reload everything.
So if you're using the HTC calendar widget, that's why sense is crashing, it's something with that. If you're not using it then I don't know what the problem is.
A good alternative to the calendar widget is Android Agenda Widget. Very customizable and I found it as a great replacement.
photostitch free works for panoramic pics hun
Rhyter,
Did you ever make progress on this?
I have same issue with 2 different headsets.
Apparently it has to do with the bluetooth controls being intercepted by a different program.
what is strange is that winamp did not have this problem. Winamp apparently set itself as the primary controller of AVRCP.
I have searched for a program that will let me control AVRCP without rooting the phone, but I haven't found any.
Anyone please help!!!
Thanks.
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photostitch free works for panoramic pics hun
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Another that I have found is called photaf. Im impressed by it
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Only solution that fixed it was to completely reset the device....
Then i installed what I wanted to work correctly first.... This has held and solved the issues.
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Hey everyone!
I am formerly of the Windows Mobile camp and finally made the jump over to Android. My Droid Incredible 2 comes in [hopefully] by the end of this week. I've played with Android as a dual boot on my HTC Touch Pro2, but it certainly doesn't compare to the look and feel of a real Android device.
So, I have a few questions that have been burning in my mind, maybe some folks could help me out.
What are the different versions of Sense on HTC's Android devices? I hear good things about the newest version, but I am told that the DInc2 doesn't have the latest and greatest.
Does anyone playing with the leaked Gingerbread ROM know if the Sense version was updated at all, or are there hardware requirements stopping that from happening?
What is up with HTCSense.com, I hear the DInc2 won't be compatible with the site, any idea why? It seems like a really good value-added type of feature.
What are some of the benefits of the upgrade to Gingerbread?
Any good suggestions for managing notifications? My fiancee just got the DInc2 and she charges it in a different room. I like to use my phone as an alarm clock, but I noticed notifications going off all night on her phone. Any way to stop notifications between certain hours or even just toggle them on and off easily? Ideally I would like to automate this with a way to override sometimes.
Any general advice that folks have for the phone itself?
Thanks everyone, and sorry for the extremely noob questions.
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Hey everyone!
I am formerly of the Windows Mobile camp and finally made the jump over to Android. My Droid Incredible 2 comes in [hopefully] by the end of this week. I've played with Android as a dual boot on my HTC Touch Pro2, but it certainly doesn't compare to the look and feel of a real Android device.
So, I have a few questions that have been burning in my mind, maybe some folks could help me out.
What are the different versions of Sense on HTC's Android devices? I hear good things about the newest version, but I am told that the DInc2 doesn't have the latest and greatest.
Does anyone playing with the leaked Gingerbread ROM know if the Sense version was updated at all, or are there hardware requirements stopping that from happening?
What is up with HTCSense.com, I hear the DInc2 won't be compatible with the site, any idea why? It seems like a really good value-added type of feature.
What are some of the benefits of the upgrade to Gingerbread?
Any good suggestions for managing notifications? My fiancee just got the DInc2 and she charges it in a different room. I like to use my phone as an alarm clock, but I noticed notifications going off all night on her phone. Any way to stop notifications between certain hours or even just toggle them on and off easily? Ideally I would like to automate this with a way to override sometimes.
Any general advice that folks have for the phone itself?
Thanks everyone, and sorry for the extremely noob questions.
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I only have 1 thing to advise. Wait for root. Don't put that ruu on, the you can try whatever Rom comes out. Cm7 blows sense out of the water
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Try Shush! Ringtone Restorer. It silences your phone, and lets you choose when it will automatically come back on.
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Try Shush! Ringtone Restorer. It silences your phone, and lets you choose when it will automatically come back on.
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Kind of like Timeriffic??
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alfray.timeriffic&feature=search_result
sense was not and will not be updated throughout the gingerbread roll out for the dinc2, probably any bugs or issues in the system will be addressed but i don't see them giving us a different version at all.
Thanks for the help folks!
Shush and Timeriffic seem like they might be what I am looking for. I'm not too hung up on Sense being an older version, I think what I was thinking of was when I heard HTCSense.com and its backup utility was said to be not compatible with the DInc2. From other things I have read, it appears that it will purposely never be compatible because of Verizon.
I'm also really really hoping this phone gets the ability to play Netflix Streaming. If the original Incredible can get it, I can't see why they can't find a way to make it compatible with the newer model.
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Thanks for the help folks!
Shush and Timeriffic seem like they might be what I am looking for. I'm not too hung up on Sense being an older version, I think what I was thinking of was when I heard HTCSense.com and its backup utility was said to be not compatible with the DInc2. From other things I have read, it appears that it will purposely never be compatible because of Verizon.
I'm also really really hoping this phone gets the ability to play Netflix Streaming. If the original Incredible can get it, I can't see why they can't find a way to make it compatible with the newer model.
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I posted this on the AT&T One X forums but it's relevant here...
What in the world did HTC do to Android ICS mulitasking!? Apps seem to be completely removed from cache every single time they're closed for ~30 seconds. They also no longer re-open in the same state that you left them! If I leave the browser, it needs to reload the web page. If I leave a game, I need to start from the beginning. If I pause and exit Slacker radio for a minute, the app closes and I can't even resume my music with the headphones button! I need to re-open the app and start playing all over again.
With my old Galaxy Nexus I never had ANY of these issues and multitasking was clearly the best of any smartphone on the market. HTC has completely crippled this device and it's becoming more and more frustrating (push email notifications & sms notifications are a whole other mess). It seems HTC has created Sense to focus more on preserving battery than focusing on creating a good user experience. The first few days with the phone were great but as more and more of these "instances" pop up, this phone is beginning to seem less and less powerful and intuitive.
Maybe you have "Don't keep Activities" ticked in the Developer options?
No problem here, I can switch back to tasks at the point I left them. HOWEVER, I do tend to close apps from Recent Apps when I close them and I did the same on my old Galaxy Nexus as I don't like to have apps open if I'm not using them...obviously if you clear apps from the Task Manager then yes they'll open from scratch
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Just checked and it's not ticked.
Sadly I have the same thing 3 pages opened... going to gmail checking mail and opening one already clears the cache and when I go back to the browser it has to reload the pages!!! Very annoying. My old HD2 was a lot better with this and I think Sense is the blame!! Its eating up to much RAM
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Just checked and it's not ticked.
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Well, it seems that YOU "Really Screwed Up Multitasking on the One X". We're happy campers with great multitasking, remade by HTC. Incidentally, we actually get multitasking instead of Google's app switcher!
So, please, enough with the unceasing drama of HTC ruined my life.
yeah i get this - it's like it saves a screenshot of the last page the app was on, and then goes onto reloading it all. its almost like an ios multitasking and i don't like.
I tried running Rhapsody and CoPilot at the same time. CoPilot's pretty memory intensive. They both stayed active and I could toggle between them without either one restarting. Going to the home page caused Rhapsody to lose focus. I opened the browser and started Rhapsody again while CoPilot was still running. Toggling between the three they all stayed open. When I went to the home page the browser lost focus. Could be a bug, could be memory management.
I have no issues with it. Works well for me, I also don't like apps running too long in the background. If I am working on stuff it allows me to switch back and fourth with ease.
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Well, it seems that YOU "Really Screwed Up Multitasking on the One X". We're happy campers with great multitasking, remade by HTC. Incidentally, we actually get multitasking instead of Google's app switcher!
So, please, enough with the unceasing drama of HTC ruined my life.
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Nope seems like most other users on the AT&T forum have the exact same issue (there's a video there that shows it) and some others here have said the same. It's nothing I did to the device, it's something built into Sense 4.0.
The link below is a post on the AT&T forum that contains two videos that portray the problem. My issue isn't as bad as what is shown being that I need to leave an app for around 30 seconds. The issue shown seems to happen almost instantly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25918871&postcount=7
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Nope seems like most other users on the AT&T forum have the exact same issue (there's a video there that shows it) and some others here have said the same. It's nothing I did to the device, it's something built into Sense 4.0.
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The international version's been out for a month and this is the first time this has come up. So either it's not a big deal to people or they didn't even notice. I didn't until I read your post. Where would you like this to go?
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The international version's been out for a month and this is the first time this has come up. So either it's not a big deal to people or they didn't even notice. I didn't until I read your post. Where would you like this to go?
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To HTC...so it's fixed.
NextNexus said:
To HTC...so it's fixed.
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http://www.htc.com/www/contact/
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http://www.htc.com/www/contact/
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Already submitted.
I've got the same problem and the developer option is unticked. It is a pain but it doesn't bother me too much though tbh.
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Well, it seems that YOU "Really Screwed Up Multitasking on the One X". We're happy campers with great multitasking, remade by HTC. Incidentally, we actually get multitasking instead of Google's app switcher!
So, please, enough with the unceasing drama of HTC ruined my life.
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If you don't have anything useful to post, why post at all. You just sound like a butthurt fanyboy because someones posted criticism about a genuine problem they're having. Just because you're a "Happy camper" doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.
This issue is pretty bad. Should be fixed. Ill contact htc again
actually i havent noticed it until this thread, well maybe noticed it but never paid any attention to that. now it starts buggin me.
I don't know if this will help but there was a thread a little while ago that said to tick the "don't keep activities" tick box in developer options and then use the phone like that for a minute.
Then untick the "don't keep activities" tick box and it should work.
I can't remember if you had to restart the device somewhere in-between the two steps or after it.
This did help a lot of people.
The phone seemed to be in-between "don't keep activities" and full multi-tasking somehow.
Hope it works for you!
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This issue is pretty bad. Should be fixed. Ill contact htc again
actually i havent noticed it until this thread, well maybe noticed it but never paid any attention to that. now it starts buggin me.
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Problems I don't know I have seldom bother me. Not disputing that there's an issue, but the number of pitchforks and torches brought out should be commensurate with the degree of the problem. That's what I think shirreer was trying to say before he got ***** slapped. This is one of the most emotional forums on XDA I’ve ever participated in.
i have the international version and i don't have this issue.
fb, skype, doplhin hd browser, google talk, xda and even riptide are all open and can be switched back and forth without needing refresh
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
Srgsx said:
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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multitasking is a bit of a joke on this phone. I hope HTC addresses this in a future update.
sent from my HTC One X
Since Sense + OS alone consume most of the ram (> 80%) on the device, I suppose integrated Android task killer is configured in some paranoid mode and is killing backgroups apps like crazy.
If this bothers you, I would install one of senseless ROMs on your HD2 and be happy Possibly there is also a way to make task killer more civilized in custom Sense ROMs.
Sadly, Sense 4.0 is quit bloated and One-X should have at least 1.5GB of RAM to begin with.
Yup, I agree, multitasking is really bad... All my dolphin browser pages reload if I click the home button and try to go back.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.
It will addressed with uopdates after all you bought a quad cote for multi tasking, some of xda chefs are communicating with HTC dev and we reported the very aggressive memfree values, also if you are rooted you can control them with supercharger script
Srgsx said:
Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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When I change the wireless state on my i9100 the same thing happens so it's Android, not HTC or the One X. Even if the USA Today home page was retained clicking on any of the stories would result in an error because there's no wireless connection available. Get an app like Pocket that allows you to save articles from across the web for offline reading. The CNN app also gives you the option to save stories offline.
The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.
mgfjd said:
The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.
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Do any of you understand how multitasking in Android even works? Even if a task is killed by the OS, apps developed that follow the published standard will re-launch in their last state in less than a second. And the better XDA devs should know that. So while HTC's memory management may be aggressive, there's more to it if individual apps aren't behaving correctly.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
Srgsx said:
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol
louis.b said:
If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol
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Its called a forum, in which I can and will reach out to others to get feedback on what I consider a situation with a very flawed segment of Sense which is making me contemplate returning an otherwise very nice device.
Look Apple has been doing this puesdo multi-tasking, app-pausing just fine since 4.0 what the heck is HTC thinking ? Browser tabs store just fine for days WITHOUT an internet connection. I geuss I am just expecting too much.
Sorry to interupt move along nothing to see here - lol
If you really want to pile-on, head over here. The XL'rs are far more up in arms than the X'rs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
I've asked the same questions of people that say the way multitasking is implemented is a real hardship but no one's answered. What's the harm? Of "X" hours a day using the phone, what percentage of your time is actually spent active in two (or more) apps simultaneously? And with a powerful processor it shouldn't matter whether a background app is in state or has to be restarted based on the way Android works (see below). I'm not trying to pick a fight I'm trying to understand the depth of the issue.
And since no one's read the article I linked to, here's the cruxt...
Once Android determines that it needs to remove a process, it does this brutally, simply force-killing it. The kernel can then immediately reclaim all resources needed by the process, without relying on that application being well written and responsive to a polite request to exit. Allowing the kernel to immediately reclaim application resources makes it a lot easier to avoid serious out of memory situations.
If a user later returns to an application that's been killed, Android needs a way to re-launch it in the same state as it was last seen, to preserve the "all applications are running all of the time" experience. This is done by keeping track of the parts of the application the user is aware of (the Activities), and re-starting them with information about the last state they were seen in. This last state is generated each time the user leaves that part of the application, not when it is killed, so that the kernel can later freely kill it without depending on the application to respond correctly at that point.
And based on this, the SGS3's handling memory managment just like the One X so there don't appear to be a lot of options for those with special multitasking needs.
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The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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Try to install Apex launcher free version and set it as default launcher. Reboot and see is situation get better. If works for you then it is sense problem.
It works like a charm on my X. No any problem for multitask.And it is so smooth.
Of course if you do want sense launcher then have to live with issue. But no harm to try Apex to see at least multitask can wrok or not
BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle
At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?
Apex so far is best launcher for one X. I used it for 1 month. If it is not work for you I will post another solution which may help.
Apex- ok you might be on to something !
Can still hold app data while in airplane mode...
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the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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If your rooted then flash Jan's Advance Notification toggle to enable Airplane Mode it will retain the webpage because you're not going into a different app.
Srgsx said:
At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?
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I dont think this is caused by sense taking up too much resources. Seems to be an ics inherent thing. The sgs3 was just reported to behave the same way.
Oh yes i tried the ipad3 the other day. The display was perfect but what surprises me is it multitasks amazingly well. I can have 5 - 6 apps open including youtube and browser with multiple tabs and it switches between them smoothly without once quiting the browser. Really sad to see android/ ics regressed to this state that ios significantly beat it.
if it is ics problem why I can use mutlitask on my one X?
Raider0001 said:
BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle
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I keep asking the question "what does it mean?" and everyone keeps replying "it shouldn't be this way." If a doctor says "there’s something wrong with your liver," there's a big difference between hepatitis A and stage 3 cancer. Other than the perceived loss of something you had how does the way that the One X handles multitasking affect what you do every day? And how often is it a problem?
I had a i9100 and in practical use I don't notice a difference. The exception being the browser that stupidly reloads itself every time it restarts but it does that regardless of whether launched from recent apps or directly from the app drawer or a shortcut.
And if this is true it doesn't really matter what a Desire, HD2, or SGS did.
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The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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