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Is it better to gain temp root before the ota or after or does it even matter either way? Cause right now I'm have not updated my phone eventhough its asking me too.
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You realize we have perm root now, right?
Yeah but I thought you had to gain temp root first in order to gain perm root.
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You can get perm root without updating. If you plan on flashing a rom it doesnt matter. If your going to stay stock then i would update first.
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Actually u can perm root with or without the ota update. It's win,win either way.
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Thank you all for the replies, its been much appreciated! Now moving forward on with rooting, as soon as my buddy gets his G2.
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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I used visionary 11& it worked flawlessly. As for rage,I couldn't tell u. I haven't tried that method yet.
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mjybarr said:
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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If you're comfortable with adb then I highly recommend rage, since you're in control over exactly what steps you're doing. If adb freaks you out then probably best to stick with Visionary.
I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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shortlived said:
I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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Yeah I feel comfortable using adb, I just wanted to see what method you all using and how successful each method is. I have been looking at rage and it seems to be pretty easy, along with gfree.
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I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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shortlived said:
I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
I stand corrected. I already had root so i skipped that part. Oh well.
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steviewevie said:
gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
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Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
Use gfree, THEN clockwork recovery and backup your phone. Then do hboot if you want.
Just my opinion.
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VValdo said:
Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
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gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
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gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
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You're right. I meant to say that it facilities permanent root better than the hboot alternative does. You still need to copy the su and Superuser.apk using either method, but if your plan is to shut off the r-o emmc, do it with gfree.
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Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I'm not so sure you can, mainly because as part of the rooting process you need to push some system files. If it's not rooted, a solution like root explorer or some su-enabled file browser obviously won't work...
I've only had mine for a couple days so I'm no expert though
Not possible I think. Whatever you do don't even try visionary perm root. Temp root is okay though.
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Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I did perm root w/o using computer(just watched the youtube video) visionary r12 then watched the video using terminal emulator and that's it I forgot the youtube link I'm gonna search it so u can root
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Alex530 said:
Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
steviewevie said:
I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
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I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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GoCkillaz said:
I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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You needto run gfree as root, so temp root is required as a minimum. Whether you get that from Visionary or rage is up to you.
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Well I'm trying to root using gfree and its not working. I either get adb permission denied or no such file or directory. Any ideas?
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i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
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i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
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Power the phone off and press the power button and down on the voulme button at the same time. Wait till it gets you to the recovery? And you'll see at the top if it S-on your not permarooted. If it says S-off you are.
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search "blackprince how to root your G2" on youtube. Follow everything the dude does in the video and you should be good to go. That's what I followed, and I got s-off, but not gfree. I did it the first try withing half an hour. Good luck, sir.
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That blackprince video is using an old method though. The most up-to-date method, and far safer, is the gfree method described in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
If you already have used that video to root the phone, you should still use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, because it has more options from getting out of bad situations - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
I can't for the life of me remember what root method I used. I'm not to clued up on the really technical stuff, but I have been able to flash custom boot images and what ever the latest radio is.
Is there away to find out?
There are 2 reasons why I ask. One is that after have a read through the stickies recently I was reading about gfree, none of what I read sounded even vaugely familiar. But from reading around these forums the gfree method of rooting it is the best way of routing and the safest. Is this correct? And if I'm not rooted from using gfree should I consider unrooting and rerooting using the gfree method? And this bring me on to my second question, if I did want to unroot my phone to go back to stock would I need to know my rooting method?
Thanks in advance
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Edit, I'm a idiot, quoted my op instead of editing it
Hmm... am not sure if u can even find out. Well if u use the 1st method of rooting and getting the s-off using terminal and visionary with unforgivens way or you used rage which am not familiar with and the last one I know is the gfree way
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Hi I need help rooting my g2 its running 2.3.4 ota
I used the oneclick but its not perm
is their a eazyer why then adb
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bord1er said:
Hi I need help rooting my g2 its running 2.3.4 ota
I used the oneclick but its not perm
is their a eazyer why then adb
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All of the oneclick methods have a high brick rate; the safest way to root is via adb as listed in the wiki. Its quite simple (I was drunk when I rooted mine), just follow the directions and double check your typing
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Follow the wiki guide. Follow exactly the guide. Should be no problem.
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The wiki is the best way.
Use the Wiki as it is the XDA approved method. Now you will need to down grade so you need to follow the wiki in the exact order that it is. If you cannot follow the instructions, then you probably should not be rooting your phone in the first place.
You may want to take it to a fried that you trust to do the work and show/explain to you what they are doing and why. What are your goals for a rooted phone.
I've rooted my Vision twice with ADB and it gets easier once you get the hang of it.
bord1er said:
Hi I need help rooting my g2 its running 2.3.4 ota
I used the oneclick but its not perm
is their a eazyer why then adb
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Well it's very common that people get intimidated at the mention of ADB when they start out to root their phone... You could follow rooting instructions on my blog www.desirez.strawmetal.com you could try out the HTC Super Tool or use the regular guide there.. hope i could help you
My response to another guy (with basically the same question) just earlier today pretty much covers my thoughts on the matter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21280578&postcount=18
Wiki guide or strawmetals (or the guide in CM Wiki, for that matter) are essentially the same, I believe. But it looks like strawmetal was kind enough to package all the needed files into one download package, and simplify the steps a bit.
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All of the oneclick methods have a high brick rate; the safest way to root is via adb as listed in the wiki. Its quite simple (I was drunk when I rooted mine), just follow the directions and double check your typing
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Lml u was drunk...#jokes...anyway follow the cm wiki to root. 2.3.4 phone.
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The downgrade is the hard part, and that requires adb.
Once past that, you could use the visionary/gfree method (not the visionary perm root method). It's pretty safe from what I've heard. I know some will disagree, but I've done it 3 times successfully with gfree.
i try to set up adb but my computer is dumb!!
it never reads my phone i tryed like three diffrent adb still nothing
If you haven't already, check out the adb guide in my signature to see if that helps.
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hi i too need apps or method for rooting my phone of rom 2.3.3 offcial of bild number 2.42
please help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Hello All,
I'm looking for a way to temporary root my Android Desire Z ... What should I need to know at first, and what is the tools that I should use. Also, how can I unroot the phone after that ... Thanks.
Assuming you are on gingerbread, run the 'Gaining Temp-root' and 'Temp-rooting to backup' from this guide
To undo it, just reboot the phone.
-Nipqer
sikas said:
Hello All,
I'm looking for a way to temporary root my Android Desire Z ... What should I need to know at first, and what is the tools that I should use. Also, how can I unroot the phone after that ... Thanks.
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use visionary, then be unhappy when you are holding a brick
im just kidding, dont temp root - full root. there few good reasons not too, amd you can always unroot your phone.
anyway why do you need temp root? something specific i gather?
demkantor said:
use visionary, then be unhappy when you are holding a brick
im just kidding, dont temp root - full root. there few good reasons not too, amd you can always unroot your phone.
anyway why do you need temp root? something specific i gather?
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Hello,
I need to test some apps that requires root access .. so I wanted to temporary root the device and then unroot it once finished using the apps.
The guide nipqer linked you to will suffice, after your test is complete I suggest you consider permentley rooting your phone as I'm sure you will be most happy this way
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demkantor said:
The guide nipqer linked you to will suffice, after your test is complete I suggest you consider permentley rooting your phone as I'm sure you will be most happy this way
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Well, if I'm satisfied, I'll definitly perminant root it
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I have another thing, how can I be sure that the device is rooted? I mean, how can I test it??
download an app that requires root and then see if it works, i think there is even an app that just checks for root
sikas said:
I have another thing, how can I be sure that the device is rooted? I mean, how can I test it??
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download terminal emulator from the market and type in the command "su"