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alrighty so here it is the ota is coming and i silly as i may be rooted like 3-4 days ago. i didnt take the time to s-off just got the custom recovery updated the radio to 2.05 and downloaded sky raider vanilla. hboot is .79.
now from my research that ive gather and correct me if im wrong but all i need to do is :
*s-off
*flash the stock recovery
after that i should be good for the ota correct?
so far i got the s-off done looking for a lil bit of instruction as to how to get the stock recovery flashed safely.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated i thank you all very much.
inessi said:
alrighty so here it is the ota is coming and i silly as i may be rooted like 3-4 days ago. i didnt take the time to s-off just got the custom recovery updated the radio to 2.05 and downloaded sky raider vanilla. hboot is .79.
now from my research that ive gather and correct me if im wrong but all i need to do is :
*s-off
*flash the stock recovery
after that i should be good for the ota correct?
so far i got the s-off done looking for a lil bit of instruction as to how to get the stock recovery flashed safely.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated i thank you all very much.
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I have attached the stock recovery that needs to be flashed from the HBOOT.
It is my understanding however, that you need to downgrade to the .77 HBOOT, 1.xx radio AND 2.1 system for the update to notify you, give you the option to download, and install successfully. However, I am a few drinks into my night.
If you choose to follow that path. I suggest you read this
awesome stuff really appreciate it man gonna give it a try now, fellow floridian lol
inessi said:
awesome stuff really appreciate it man gonna give it a try now, fellow floridian lol
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w00t!
If you get hung up anywhere, pm me and I'll give you a number to call me at in the morning/afternoon and I'll walk you through it.
your my hero bud, my freaking hero stock recovery got s-off i think thats all i need to recieve the ota and do it yea?
thnx
See, from this point, I'm not sure if you need the .77 HBOOT 1.xx Radio and 2.1build-1 on your phone (I'm really questioning it, as I beleive I read in a few places that you do, but I'm not sure at this point in the evening). I don't think the Skyraider rom will get a notification when the update is available. I'd say if you don't get a notification for the update when everyone else in the free world is, then you may have to.
As long as you have S-OFF, it doesn't matter either way, you have complete control for the rest of your phone's life. Whatever you do, don't turn it back on lol.
hmmm well if it doesnt show up guess my next set of questions is how to get back to stock everything
inessi said:
hmmm well if it doesnt show up guess my next set of questions is how to get back to stock everything
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The link I posted above with the "I suggest you read this" line is where you will need to go if it boils down to that.
o haha some how i missed that lil section of text did you just add that recently?
but ok sounds good ill run through it in the morning probably
and holy crap the link you posted makes this all look so simple hah
Well I have stock everything, except for my hboot is .79, im on stock 2.1 stock recovery just have .79 hboot not .77, i think i will still get the update though...
rdmerck said:
thnx
See, from this point, I'm not sure if you need the .77 HBOOT 1.xx Radio and 2.1build-1 on your phone (I'm really questioning it, as I beleive I read in a few places that you do, but I'm not sure at this point in the evening). I don't think the Skyraider rom will get a notification when the update is available. I'd say if you don't get a notification for the update when everyone else in the free world is, then you may have to.
As long as you have S-OFF, it doesn't matter either way, you have complete control for the rest of your phone's life. Whatever you do, don't turn it back on lol.
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I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
magneto417x said:
I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
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Other than the root, did you modify anything else to your phone?
If not, your still with the .77 HBOOT, 1.xx baseband, and 2.1update-1 system?
Add unrevoked forever to remove s-off, then flash the stock recovery back to your phone. Your goal here is to have S-Off
in order to get the OTA (from my understanding) you need the stock recovery, do a little search I have all the faith in the world that you will find what you are looking for. you want to run unrevoked forever BEFORE you accept the OTA2.2, so this is your steps, root, run unrevoked forever getting S-OFF, find the file for the stock recovery, PB..IMG file, flash that in hboot, this will set u back to stock 2.1 update1, stock radio, stock recovery, but still have S-OFF to regain root, after the OTA comes.
So if I have stock everything, and have hboot .79 will I still get the OTA I don't see why not...
BlazeD OnE said:
in order to get the OTA (from my understanding) you need the stock recovery, do a little search I have all the faith in the world that you will find what you are looking for. you want to run unrevoked forever BEFORE you accept the OTA2.2, so this is your steps, root, run unrevoked forever getting S-OFF, find the file for the stock recovery, PB..IMG file, flash that in hboot, this will set u back to stock 2.1 update1, stock radio, stock recovery, but still have S-OFF to regain root, after the OTA comes.
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Currently the only thing I have done was rooted and removed CityID and but have not changed the radio or anything else. I have installed Unrevoked forever now. So do I still need to flash stock recovery even though I haven't changed the boot files or radio files at all?
Yes from what I've read you HAVE to have the stock recovery. what is your HBOOT once u get stock recovery?
BlazeD OnE said:
Yes from what I've read you HAVE to have the stock recovery. what is your HBOOT once u get stock recovery?
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My HBOOT is 0.79.0000
Radio 1.00.03.04.06
Any input would be helpful as to whether I will get OTA or do I need to do something.
once in hboot, go to recovery, if you have clockwork you wont get it i dont think, if you get a red triangle you have stock recovery and you are good to go.
magneto417x said:
I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
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Yes, install unrevoked forever. The fact that you are rooted will not affect the ability of your upgrade, it is the lack of the stock recovery that will halt you.
Unrevoked forever will allow you to flash ANY zip file you want to the phone (namely a zip that has su and Superuser.apk) and will allow you to regain root in the event that it is ever lost due to an OTA or user error.
S-OFF is a beautiful thing.
I would love to take my phone to Verizon right now with a manufactured problem, let him see the Superuser, official 2.2 system and then stock recovery. Could be priceless!
DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Sorry for shouting, but this is very important. Thanks to the mods for making this sticky.
The latest official RUU that has been released - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870369 - has been found to break the existing methods of rooting and getting full S-OFF.
This shouldn't be a big suprise, because when HTC saw that the amazing devs on XDA had cracked the existing security, we should expect them to put something even tougher in later releases.
So flashing any later release, whether that's an official RUU or just the ROM image (PC10IMG.zip) is a very dangerous thing to do until it has been fully tested and "cleared" by the devs here. i.e. your previously rooted and S-OFF'd phone might lose root and go back to S-ON, and be unable to be rooted and S-OFF'd again.
It's of course fine if your phone came with a particular ROM release to flash that *exact same* release back onto the phone if you want to return to stock. What I'm referring to is flashing a brand new release that isn't the one that came with your phone.
It's fine to flash custom ROMs of course, because those have already been tested out. In general, it's probably best to steer very clear of new official releases, and wait till the devs have pulled them apart and put any cool new stuff into a custom ROM. Then you know it'll be safe to flash.
Currently I don't think it's entirely clear what just flashing a new *radio* on its own will do, as opposed to the entire ROM/RUU. That's still being worked on. But steer clear of even that if you're not sure what you're doing or dont' want to take any chances of losing root/S-OFF.
Thanks for reading
Thanks for the heads up.
I flashed the ROM you mentioned.
For those who want to try:
Just remember to get REAL S-OFF using gfree before flashing it.
This provide you a medicine for regret. You can get back to WWE ROM using WWE RUU and root/recover your old ROM.
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
androidtoy09 said:
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
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We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
steviewevie said:
We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
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Ok, thanks for clearing it up. So, RUU is pretty much similar to the method RIM uses to flash its OS on the Blackberries.
Im a little confused here.. So just to clear some things up i hope someone will answer these questions i have.
I have the software on my Desire Z that it came with (1.34.405.5), which i've rooted, S-off'ed and installed another kernel for OC porpuses. This is working fine, but lets say that i wanted to try another rom .. After some time i decide to go back to the stock software and then update to the newest software, would that be a problem? And has HTC released some newer software than the one iam using?
If you flashed back to stock, that would be fine. But if you flashed a new official update (e.g OTA), then you run the risk of installing something that you can't root/S-OFF.
It is best to steer clear of any official upgrades until they've been checked by the devs here and been given the all-clear.
Given that the phone came with certain areas write-protected, and the devs managed to crack that, we should be expecting HTC to release an even more secure update.
Yes, there is a new ROM out, at the moment for Egypt, that seems to have increased security. It would not be a suprise if HTC rolled out similar security as an OTA update for all existing ROMs. Right now there is something in that Egypt ROM (probably the hboot, at the minimum) which mean existing permanent root and S-OFF methods fail. It may be this is easily cracked again, or maybe it will take some time, who knows.
Bottom line - don't apply any official updates to your phone if it is rooted/S-OFF or you plan to root/S-OFF.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
perm-rooted g2 stock tmobile rom s-off
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
blitz69 said:
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
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The trouble is, HTC/T-Mobile don't want you to root and/or S-OFF your phone, because it's a lot easier to end up bricking the phone if you don't know what you're doing. They put greatly increased security on the G2/DZ/DHD when they came out, in order to help prevent this.
Now this security has been cracked, we can expect HTC/T-Mobile to try and increase security even further (e.g. closing loopholes that let our current methods of root/S-OFF work) in future updates.
So if you accept any future OTA, you run a high risk of accepting something that will lock you out of root and S-OFF, at least temporarily, and possibly permanently (depending on how good a solution they come up with).
If you are not bothered about root/S-OFF, then that's fine of course.
This doesn't mean that you necessarily have to switch to a custom ROM to get updates though. If you stay with the stock ROM (and I'm still on a stock ROM too right now), then just do not accept the update when an OTA comes out, and keep checking these forums to see when the devs say that they can root/S-OFF with the new version. When they say it's ok then you know you can apply the update and still get root/S-OFF.
This already happened with the G2. Very soon after release, but after rooting had been achieved, there was an OTA. Most people here decided to wait until the OTA had been looked at, and sure enough there was a small adjustment needed to the rooting method. But of course this OTA was before HTC had a chance to respond to the cracking of the security, so as I said, any future updates may well require a lot more time and effort from the devs to investigate and crack again.
Ok. Thank you very much
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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What do you mean with gfree?
Is my waranty broken When i execute radio s-off?
Is it possible to make it radio s-on?
Yes,warranty is broken,but with the new gfree method
you can go back to S-ON:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
ericjosepi said:
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
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If you do a factory reset then I think you'll lose root, but you can get it back again easily enough. The issue for this thread is flashing new updated stuff from HTC etc.
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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You might still need that backup, e.g. if you don't know what your old CID was and you want to un-do that bit too. I would keep it.
Sorry I don't think I understand your last question though, or why you say the uberroot method (I'm personally not keen on that name, it's just the usual method using Visionary/rage with gfree, not a new method) doesn't work.
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
If you are only interested in permanent root you only need radio S-OFF and then it is sufficient to use
# ./gfree -s off
instead of
# ./gfree -f
in the following commands.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON by using the "-s on" option and to change the CID back to the original value be using i.e. "-c T-MOB010" if you want or have to go back.
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But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Thanks for the advice, I will stick myself with the current rom for a while
Ganii said:
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
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Yes, I mean to go from your SuperCID back to your regular CID. You might not know what your original CID was.
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
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Yes, if you flash a stock ROM then it won't affect your S-OFF and CID status (or SIM unlock). These are stored in your radio configuration partition, and not in any of the partitions which are overwritten by the ROM flash.
dear fellow G2 users,
seek your patience & expertise to guide me on unrooting (i think i rooted?) my Desire Z, & reverting to my original ROM. have tried search Google & XDA, but got no clues where to pick up.
basically, my "rooting" involves installing the Superuser.apk (if you call that rooting). ROM is still original, & the only non-official stuff i installed was ClockModRecovery.
purpose to unroot is for my phone to receive the official HTC update.
would very much appreciate if the community here can point me in the right direction or guide me step-by-step.
thank you in advance.
What method did you do to gain root? If you want try one of the custom roms? There is rooted roms that are updated to current and are close if not fully stock jus difference they have root privilages
I don't think you are rooted. If rooting is as easy as installing Superuser.apk we won't be hearing about phones that are unrootable.
Install 'Root Checker' from Market to verify if you're indeed rooted, which I doubt considering the steps you've taken to root.
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I don't think you are rooted. If rooting is as easy as installing Superuser.apk we won't be hearing about phones that are unrootable.
Install 'Root Checker' from Market to verify if you're indeed rooted, which I doubt considering the steps you've taken to root.
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Yeah, pretty sure your not rooted if that's all you have done
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
thanks fer the replies! much appreciate.
ok the root checker works both ways:
1) if i grant Root Checker access under Superuser.apk to verify if i'm rooted, it says yes i'm rooted.
2) if i deny Superuser access, it says not rooted.
how do i proceed on from here?
thanks fer your patience once again!
So you just installed superuser, and then you where able to grant superuser permissions and flash a rom with clockworks? Did you buy your phone used by any chance? Cuz it boggles my mind how you could do that without a proper rooting
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hey there delirious,
i got it as a used phone with superuser installed by the previous owner. but that's about what he did.
the rom is still original, neither custom nor modified.
the clockwork is just the clockworkrecovery only.
Well if you never rooted in the regular way, then it just doesn't seem possible that you have root. If you where to uninstall cloockworks and superuser than your phone should be the same as before you installed them. You could do a factory reset after uninstallng, then do a root check. After all that, you can feel same updating. Unless you have removed some system files. But I don't think you can do that without s-off
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
But you should double check with the seller, just to make sure he didn't do anything else
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
Edit: what does your phone say when you boot into recovery?
i tried factory reset, the superuser still exists, so do the clockworkrecovery. this is what is preventing me from receiving the official updates.
it says clockworkmod recovery?
Okay, you have to be rooted some way. Talk to the seller and see what he did. And in recovery, do you have s-off, or s-on?
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
The more I think about this the more it seems your phone has had the visionary app's perm root option used on it. I have to stress that this app is not the most stable when it comes to perm root, and there has been lots of phones bricked from it, that might be why the seller neglectedto meantion it. I used it back when I first rooted and your phone sounds just like mine was. Superuser permissions but no s-off.
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
ok i screwed up & did a dumb move.
i followed this guide: www[dot]addictivetips[dot]com/mobile/how-to-unroot-t-mobile-g2-htc-desire-z-complete-guide/
it installs the stock_rom half & says failed due to file error.
upon reboot, it shows the T-Mobile G2 logo & stock Android.
where can i find the official stock ROM for Desire Z Asia?
i found this webbie: shipped-roms[dot]com/index[dot]php?category=android&model=Vision
but not sure which is the rom to pick.
alternatively, since i'm pretty much stuck in T-mobile now, could you guide me through on flashing one of the custom ROMs instead? or stock rom, whichever is easier.
much appreciate!
I need to know if you have s-off before I will try to walk you through any rom flashing
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
Oh, and I have no clue where to find the desire z Asia stock rom.sorry
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
no worries, you are willing to guide me through custom rom flashing that's good enough =D
ok using the T-mobile G2 bootloader, it brings me to this. first line:
Vision PVT Ship S-Off
Hboot-0.85.0005
Microp-0425
Radio-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-Boot
will this help to tell you if i have S-OFF?
Yes, s-off means everything! It also means whoever sold you the phone lied to you... but that's okay, rooted phones are better but anyways, what kind of rom do you want to install? Take a look through the development section for the g2/desirez to get a idea of what's available. I would personally recommend cyanogenmod7. But it's personal preference really.
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
xxkidxx said:
where can i find the official stock ROM for Desire Z Asia?
i found this webbie: shipped-roms[dot]com/index[dot]php?category=android&model=Vision
but not sure which is the rom to pick.
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Pick the one that says "Asia", then HK = Hong Kong, TW = Taiwan, India = you can figure that out. Other Asian countries is WWE (worldwide English). As far as the version, 1.34, 1.82, etc. The higher numbers are more recent. But anything above 1.34 is not rootable.
But if you flash any of the official ROMs, you will lose root. ROM versions 1.34 or lower can be re-rooted.
If you only intent is to get the Gingerbread OTA, I'd say don't bother going back to stock. The OTA will be posted here when its released. And probably in a pre-rooted form soon after.
If you want a custom ROM, it depends on what you are looking for interface-wise (Sense, AOSP, MIUI), Froyo vs. Gingerbread, etc.
If you want a custom ROM similar to stock Sense, then Virtuous is the way to go. Its based on the Sense Froyo 1.85 ROM, but rooted, overclocked to 1 GHz (with other options available), and a few other cool options. But mostly stock beyond that.
thanks Delirious and redpoint for your valued inputs!
redpoint: ah, didn't know stock rom has so much limitations nowadays. wanted the original ROM so that i can update my phone. since can't root now, might as well go fer custom.
Delirious: sure, i go with Cyanogen. kindly walk me through it. much appreciate!
a problem i noted though with the T-Mobile G2 (it was originally a Desire Z), i can't access my 3G or Wi-Fi. so downloading apps are out of the question.
i do have clockworkmod already installed if that helps, but its not the latest version.
just an update, i managed to switch back to Desire Z using someone's Nandroid backup.
its still rooted, thought can you tell me how to check for the s-off thingy?
so i think i'm all set for flashing to Cyanogen (i think).
Hi,
I rooted my phone with Unrevoked when it was at 2.2 froyo. When the gingerbread OTA came around I was cautious about me being rooted and accepting a OTA update. I searched all around saying it wouldn't do anything, this will happen, etc.... When I first updated it everything was fine...Until I used one of my root apps. OK fine I'm not rooted. But when i used this app called the blizzard authenticator it would say i have a rooted phone. So is my phone half rooted? If its possible, I would like to go back to the day that i first bought the phone and restart everything. I can provide further details about my phone if asked.
S-off
HBoot 2.16.0001
Thanks!
I don't quite get what you want.
But if you just want to go back like it was out of the box, hop over the development forum and grab an RUU and return to stock.
here is a link, pick one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060
Oh ya i forgot. Im a n00b. So get the RUU and hope for the best?
Yep, it will erase everything (not SDCARD) and you will be back like the day it came out of the box.
Alright my noobness is kicking in haha. I see like 15 of them. [ROM] RUU SuperSonic EvO 3.70.651.1 OTA - Stock - Sense - Deodexed & Odexed Version originally posted by teshxx would be the one?
Nevermind i didnt even see ur link. Thanks so much ill post the results
Muffspring18 said:
Hi,
I rooted my phone with Unrevoked when it was at 2.2 froyo. When the gingerbread OTA came around I was cautious about me being rooted and accepting a OTA update. I searched all around saying it wouldn't do anything, this will happen, etc.... When I first updated it everything was fine...Until I used one of my root apps. OK fine I'm not rooted. But when i used this app called the blizzard authenticator it would say i have a rooted phone. So is my phone half rooted? If its possible, I would like to go back to the day that i first bought the phone and restart everything. I can provide further details about my phone if asked.
S-off
HBoot 2.16.0001
Thanks!
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If you used Unrevoked and got s-off, and then ran the ota update, to get your full root back you just need to flash either Amon ra or Clockworkmod recovery and make sure the superuser app is up to date.
Ok everything went well with the RUU. How do i know for sure this is stock 2.3 no root. Say i were to bring my evo into the sprint store for repair would they find out that i was rooted before?
before u run a ruu or pc36img u need to flash the s-on tool from unrevoked. since ur hboot is 2.16 now u have to run the 4.24 ruu or pc36img. if u do flash s-on tool and 4.24 ruu, u will NOT be able to root again as of now b/c no root method has been developed yet!! you have been warned
Muffspring18 said:
Ok everything went well with the RUU. How do i know for sure this is stock 2.3 no root. Say i were to bring my evo into the sprint store for repair would they find out that i was rooted before?
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when u boot into bootloader does it say S-ON or S-OFF???? s-off means it has been rooted
S-Off. I might want to root in the future when there has been a root developed tho. For right now i want to go back to being non rooted.
ok...since ur s-off u can flash a recovery (clockwork or amon) from the bootloader and then start flashing roms again at anytime now. If ur trying to take ur phone to the store i dont think being s-off will really matter. As long as u have deleted any apps or files from ur sd card that are root give aways u can just play dumb at store like "uh idk maybe it came that way".
Ok so besides the fact that the S-Off Im all set? Or am i still half rooted?
u should be set
I was able to run an older version of Unrevoked to establish SU access, but Unrevoked Forever is incompatible with my radio version. So, I have SU access, but I cannot remove or convert any applications using Titanium Backup. TB runs, but it reboots the phone if I try to remove system apps. HBOOT shows S-ON since Unrevoked Forever was not able to complete due to the radio version. So, am I stuck with S-ON? Is Unrevoked Forever going to continue developing releases to cover 2.15.10.07.07?
If I understand correctly, I cannot flash an older radio version with S-ON. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks!
HTC Incredible
2.3.4
Baseband: 2.15.10.07.07
you are correct,s-on will only let you go forward with "approved by htc" files. that means no backpeddling firmware to a rootable version,no flashing only a radio or recovery. im surprised that unrevoked even worked to get you su access,i was under the impression that all exploits had been patched in 2.3.4 source code. what happens if you try and install clockwork?
if you truly have su access,it seems it may be possible to use adb to rewrite the misc image,and thus be able to flash backwards in firmware.
however,from the sounds of the behavior youre describing for tibu,i dont believe you have su access. it prolly only put the app in the drawer,and was unable to place the matching binary.
we have been telling folks for months that they should become s-offed before the GB update,as it would be unrootable.
i bought an xtc clip awhile back that is supposed to support the incredible. i dont know that it will actually work,ill know for sure when it gets here. im told it only works with sim card phones,wich the inc is not,but its clearly listed in the supported devices.
your only real hope at this point is that someone finde a new exploit that will allow temp root and re-writing of the misc image so that you can flash older rootable firmware,or that alpharev/unrevoked can add the incredible to its supported devices list,as they use some sort of hboot trickery to get a hard patched permanent s-off hboot onto the phone first. from there you load a recovery thru hboot,then flash su in recovery.
sorry this isnt the news youre hoping for.
Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
efizzle said:
Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
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If you already have clockwork mod, flash the unrevoked forever zip from here
When I flash the zip file, I get E:/ unsupported radio version. E: update failed.
Do you have adb set up and running? Are you fairly comfortable copy/pasting commands?
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still with us? waiting for an answer to the above so we can procede
also is it possible you can post or PM me a link to the version of unrevoked you used?
if you dont have a link,just email me the whole file( [email protected] ) im extremely interested in trying to duplicate your condition and figuring out a reliable way for folks to downgrade and root.
Scotty,
I'm sorry for the delayed response.
I do not have ADB setup, but I have no problem following directions to get S-off and reclaim some memory!
I have emailed you the Unrevoked file to your email address. This should run perfectly on 2.3.4 with the exception of the last step of flashing unrevoked.zip for S-off. You will see the "unsupported radio version" errors on the phone's screen. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can do to help. Thank you for your help with this.
I got your email. I will put some stuff together for you,and try it out and see if it all works the way I hope it will. If so ill upload a mini-adb with some exploits files and post a guide. Basically,were just going to rewrite the misc image so you can downgrade back to froyo and run unrevoked forever. After you reroot and get s-off back,you can restore a backup of what you have now.
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Subscribing to thread. Looks interesting, Im hopeful it works out. Good luck!
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Ok after reading this thread again. My guide for the merge on froyo or the stuff I have for gingerbread for the merge will not work on a non emmc device. 2nd who buys a xtc clip and doesn't look what they buy? The way it works is with the sim card slot. Inc doesn't have one so it isn't going to work. It also isn't listed as supported as it would be pointless to say it does.
If I am not mistake with s-on you can't flash the recovery partition. So how did you get clockworkmod? If you have clockworkmod then you can flash non htc files. Well actually I am not sure how that would work as you have s-on but clockworkmod. Since I have never been in that boat I am unsure.
So are we talking about the inc or inc 2? If inc I am trying to think back to the desire and what was possible on s-on. If I remember right you can dump the misc then flash a lower version ruu. I just can't remember if it doesn't even flash or if it does and doesn't downgrade the radio. By the way I got it in a pm/here scotty was planning to base helping you off my merge guide. By the sounds of it anyway.
Where the commands are not the same. As the partitions would be different. The misc-image is also not the same so if he had you flash the merge misc it will more than likely bork stuff. I am more than willing to help though. How ever I do not check the forums so you are better off pming me. I will say that nothing will probably work until unrevoked supports the new radio.
Edit: If the incredible works with a goldcard. Dump the misc partition and edit it for the firmware version you want to downgrade to. Then run a lower version ruu. When that is done run unrevoked. Of course I don't have a inc so I am not sure if that will work either. I also jumped a bit to conclusions so sorry for that. I also do not get your one post about the xtc clip here, yet in that other post say the clip doesn't support the inc.
thanks for your input,but rest assured we are in no way shape or form refering to anything to do with drellisdees's guide,your copy of it,or any other files,guides,etc. you have linked or posted on this site or yours.
he allready has root access and a recovery partition.
again,thanks for your input,but please stop confusing the issue with your references to merge guides.
for others watching this,a crude guide is now up on android forums:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
root 2.3.4 with unrevoked 3.22 has now been done successfully twice,and 1 has successfully roled back to 2.2.
more testers welcome
Confirmed. Worked for me. Was s on 2.3.4.
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My Incredible also is S-on with Verizon 2.3.4 OTA and never rooted. I'll give that "crude guide" a try tonight and report back how it went.
I'm just tired of all the low memory notifications and the constant force closes. Hopefully, I can have a custom mod installed tonight if things go well.
SUCCESS!!
Instructions from the website flawlessly for me.
I first rooted the phone. Then I tested it with some root only apps. They all worked. So ideally you can stop here if all you want is root but next OTA will take away root and then you'll be stuck again.
I completed all the steps and they worked. I was able to downgrade to 2.2 and then run unrevoke3 to root and also turn S-off. It did wipe the data clean. No files from my SDcard were deleted.
This is the time i've rooted my phone and the whole process took me an hour because I was being extra careful not to miss any steps. It all went smoothly.
glad it worked out for you. we finally worked out enuff bugs i put it up here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
efizzle seems to have dropped off the face of the earth everyone who reads this should make sure to click the "thanks" button in his first post. we wouldnt have it if hadnt figured out the 3.22 secret.(we would still have zergRush,but not root with access and the ability to make nandroids and backups with tibu so easily).
once again,thanks efizzle
Worked like a champ. I did a recovery back to 2.3.4 and it worked as expected. Also brought back all my force close issues. So I used ROM Manager and installed Cyanogen7 and am loving it.
clicking the thanks button a few times for this help
Ok, I'm on Linux, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04.3 to be exact, and I have adb installed. Where can I find the Linux version of unrevoked 3.22. I have found several places on the interwebz but I'm not sure if I trust those sources.
Help Please
Just like the op I have a Dinc that is on Gingerbread 2.3.4 and baseband 2.15.10.07.07 and desperate to have root. S-OFF would be nice, but root would be just fine for now.
More than happy to be the Guinea-pig on a Linux system.
sorry,i have no idea. i did a quick search and couldnt even find the windows version of 3.22 that i uploaded... i wanted to link it at its source,since it was emailed to me,but im not sure where he downloaded it from. you might follow the link in the first post credits to the original xda thread and ask on that thread,or send efizzle a private message and see if he can help you. in a worse case scenario,as long as you have 3.32 for linux,you could get temp root and downgrade with the "zergRush" method described in past #2. it doesnt require 3.22,but you wont be able to make a backup,or run titanium unless you can push SU,the binary,and busybox to their respective locations after acquiring a temp root.