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Here's the source, finally a word from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx
question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
and do we get the firmware updates too if there is no need to restore back to nodo?
blanket said:
question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
Awesome news
Just saw the post on twitter, and I must say that I'm pretty exited!
I'm actually gonna wipe my phone before the update. Some may wonder why, and it's simple: My region thingy won't work in Norway before Mango, HAH!
The wait is almost over y'all!
Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Weeks ago the plan was still to release on September 15th (if you can trust the leaked stuff).
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
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Apples fanfare will make mango a near silent memory... poor timing microsoft, very poor indeed.
Also, verizon is lighting up quite a few around the same time... maybe the LTE iphone is possible after all .?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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@John, I just asked on Twitter and upgrade instructions for those of us running beta will be released when they have them.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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Well than I would downgrade to NoDo using the backup if you can live without Mango for another week or two.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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Yeah I read that as well but the instructions might just be "downgrade to NoDo using your backup" etc. Time will tell and fortunately it's not that far away.
The only reason they made the announcement is because we now know when Apple will reveal the next iPhone which basically means no living sould will give a damn about Mango. Way to go Microsoft, good luck with that!
I'll believe when I see it. Until then, it's all rumor and speculation.
There should have been a disclaimer that "unless you're on the AT&T network, then you'll need to wait until December or January since Mango is complex and needs to be tested before release."
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Probably because the phone has a radio in it and it's different from carrier to carrier..
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Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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It has to do with service compatibility. They make sure the phones perform properly with the various services the carriers provide. Plus, on top of that, they make sure the phone that bares their logo and name performs to their specific standards. Any malfunctioning phone can potentially give the carrier a bad rep.
I know from experience that a phone sold outright...unlocked and from the handset maker...can be buggy as hell. Whereas the exact same phone under the carriers moniker is a sweet and well functioning phone. This doesn't apply to Apple, though. Apple is in full control of any and all updates for the iPhone. But I bet the carriers who carry iPhones are allowed testing before updates are issued.
I'm glad this is more concrete than the fall. Lets see if ATT keeps to their words and updates my damn phone in a week or two.
Not even fall yet and an official announcement. Good job.
I don't understand why Android is such a pain in the ass to update? yakju vs. yakjuxw!? Samsung vs. Google? Some people getting 4.0.2 a month ago and some people still not having it!?
With iOS everybody gets the update at the same time and it's simple as pie. You're not going to see one person checking for an update and receiving it and another person checking for an update and showing "Your system is currently up to date." You're not going to see two identical phones from the same area on the same network showing two different status's.
What's crazy is that there are a LOT more iOS devices than there are Android 4 devices so if anything you would expect Apple to be forces to stagger updates! Why is it Google that needs to do this? Maybe I'm just venting b/c 4.0.3 is around the corner and my device is still stuck on 4.0.1. Just doesn't make sense to me.
The update for 4.0.2 was halted. That's why you haven't received it.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-0-2-ota-update-for-galaxy-nexus-rolling-out-again/
OTAs are now back in effect.
Not to mention iOS is only on LITTLE amounts of devices. All these devices are unified and share the same features and specs. All iPhone 4S are identical, iPhone 4 identical, and so forth.
Android is open to all so there are more devices. Nexus devices are handled by Google (yakju, mysid). Manufacturers handle their own phones (Galaxy S2, RAZR, etc) and apply their own skins delaying OTAs.
Not to mention ICS is only on <2% of Android versions. You should be lucky that you're running Android 4.0+ you won't even notice much as it's optimization and bug fixes behind the scene. If it bothers you, flash a custom ROM with 4.0.3 on it.
Calm yourself. They stagger updates to prevent widespread bug issues. It also keeps the servers from being overloaded like what happens with iOS updates (takes hours to download and update). Also, iOS updates are done through the computer and not OTA.
You'll get the updates when you get them. If you dont want to take matters into your own hands and flash the updates manually, then dont complain. Its really as simple as that. I just got my 4.0.2 update yesterday. Type *#*#CHECKIN#*#* into your dialer and see if that helps push the update
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Calm yourself. They stagger updates to prevent widespread bug issues. It also keeps the servers from being overloaded like what happens with iOS updates (takes hours to download and update). Also, iOS updates are done through the computer and not OTA.
You'll get the updates when you get them. If you dont want to take matters into your own hands and flash the updates manually, then dont complain. Its really as simple as that. I just got my 4.0.2 update yesterday. Type *#*#CHECKIN#*#* into your dialer and see if that helps push the update
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iOS can be done OTA now.. http://www.macworld.com/article/163526/2011/11/hands_on_with_ios_over_the_air_updates.html
It doesn't matter who updates your device and if you have yakju or yakjuux. Everyone gets updates.
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The update for 4.0.2 was halted.
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Its rolling out again
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Its rolling out again
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Yeah I edited my post again to say it's in effect again. I linked the article but forgot to mention that. Thanks.
zephiK said:
The update for 4.0.2 was halted. That's why you haven't received it.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-0-2-ota-update-for-galaxy-nexus-rolling-out-again/
OTAs are now back in effect.
Not to mention iOS is only on LITTLE amounts of devices. All these devices are unified and share the same features and specs. All iPhone 4S are identical, iPhone 4 identical, and so forth.
Android is open to all so there are more devices. Nexus devices are handled by Google (yakju, mysid). Manufacturers handle their own phones (Galaxy S2, RAZR, etc) and apply their own skins delaying OTAs.
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I understand the update was halted but even when its not, it takes weeks to get out to everyone
iOS 5 was updated on a LOTTTTT more devices than Android 4.0.2.
I didn't ask about manufacturer skin updated, I'm only talking about the Nexus device right now (in particular the Galaxy Nexus). Being that Google and Samsung are updating it for everyone, why is it taking so damn long to update!? Everyone should be able to update at the same time and as they wish (like iOS). Being that manufacturers are all doing their own updates, there won't be anywhere CLOSE to as many Android devices updating at any given time as there are iOS devices which are all always on the same OS and updated simultaneously.
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Calm yourself. They stagger updates to prevent widespread bug issues. It also keeps the servers from being overloaded like what happens with iOS updates (takes hours to download and update). Also, iOS updates are done through the computer and not OTA.
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What's the difference if there are bug issues on some devices or all devices?! Either way they're gonna have to be fixed. Official updates aren't released until after testing for a reason!
Apple servers may overload on iOS updates but that just forces users to wait a few hours...not a few weeks! I don't see how that's a bad thing at all. Also, iOS updates have had the option to update OTA since iOS5 was released.
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I just got my 4.0.2 update yesterday. Type *#*#CHECKIN#*#* into your dialer and see if that helps push the update
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Thanks just tried that but didn't help
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What's the difference is there are bug issues on some devices or all devices?! Either way they're gonna have to be fixed. Official updates aren't released until after testing for a reason!
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Is that a serious question? If you have a bug on 10,000 devices it is immensely easier to take care of than a bug on 100,000 devices. Updates aren't released until after testing but bugs still get out. Look at iOS with their awesome battery bug that got out.
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Is that a serious question? If you have a bug on 10,000 devices it is immensely easier to take care of than a bug on 100,000 devices. Updates aren't released until after testing but bugs still get out. Look at iOS with their awesome battery bug that got out.
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Once again, it's a lot harder to take care of if you're updating devices over multiple weeks. If devices could be updated within a matter of hours it wouldn't be harder to take care of at all. All comes back to the same issue.
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Is that a serious question? If you have a bug on 10,000 devices it is immensely easier to take care of than a bug on 100,000 devices. Updates aren't released until after testing but bugs still get out. Look at iOS with their awesome battery bug that got out.
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Google is being smarting updating in waves and seeing what each new wave brings. Then the next wave contains the little fixes like what recently happened with 4.0.2. Really, the only official updates would be 4.1, 4.2, ect. 4.0.x updates technically aren't "official" big updates
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I understand the update was halted but even when its not, it takes weeks to get out to everyone
iOS 5 was updated on a LOTTTTT more devices than Android 4.0.2.
I didn't ask about manufacturer skin updated, I'm only talking about the Nexus device right now (in particular the Galaxy Nexus). Being that Google and Samsung are updating it for everyone, why is it taking so damn long to update!? Everyone should be able to update at the same time and as they wish (like iOS). Being that manufacturers are all doing their own updates, there won't be anywhere CLOSE to as many Android devices updating at any given time as there are iOS devices which are all always on the same OS and updated simultaneously.
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That's what a OTA is, it's "Over the Air" it rolls out in batches.
If everybody got the update all at the same time then downloads for the file would be significantly slower. That's why we have XDA, people obtain the download link before actually accepting it and share it. By sharing it, we can get the link and apply it manually.
All the OTA simply does is tell your phone, "hey heres the download link.. click this and it'll download" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
Google undergoes a lot of tests to bugfix their updates. After these tests are done and verified as stable, they release it in batches via OTA. These batches are like beta testers, and they will beta test it. If all is good, it will go to the next batch and slowly expand that way.
Not to mention, 4.0.2 was released on Google's website with STOCK IMAGES. You could of applied this yourself and have 4.0.2. Don't complain if you're unwilling to take control of your phone's updates when the resources are there to manually update your phone to 4.0.2 or even 4.0.3.
And you never said Galaxy Nexus, you called out the whole Android OS. You compared Android OS to iOS (hence "Android update system" compared to "iOS"). It a simple fact that manufacturer skins delay OTAs because they have to waste time and money to port their skins onto the new update.
All I'm saying is that the sources to update your phone are there. You can't say it "sucks" when the links and tools are out there but you don't want to manually update it. Instead you want a popup saying its available for your phone. Manually updating your phone doesn't affect future OTAs.
Edit: here's the link that the OTA would give you..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21320324&postcount=82
manually flash it in stock recovery (or CWR.. shouldn't matter).
All the OTA is a simple popup saying update is here, click here to get it. It's simply just spoon feeding you the link. It's the same exact file you'd get from the OTA.
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That's what a OTA is, it's "Over the Air" it rolls out in batches.
If everybody got the update all at the same time then downloads for the file would be significantly slower. That's why we have XDA, people obtain the download link before actually accepting it and share it. By sharing it, we can get the link and apply it manually.
All the OTA simply does is tell your phone, "hey heres the download link.. click this and it'll download" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
Google undergoes a lot of tests to bugfix their updates. After these tests are done and verified as stable, they release it in batches via OTA. These batches are like beta testers, and they will beta test it. If all is good, it will go to the next batch and slowly expand that way.
Not to mention, 4.0.2 was released on Google's website with STOCK IMAGES. You could of applied this yourself and have 4.0.2. Don't complain if you're unwilling to take control of your phone's updates when the resources are there to manually update your phone to 4.0.2 or even 4.0.3.
And you never said Galaxy Nexus, you called out the whole Android OS. You compared Android OS to iOS (hence "Android update system" compared to "iOS"). It a simple fact that manufacturer skins delay OTAs because they have to waste time and money to port their skins onto the new update.
All I'm saying is that the sources to update your phone are there. You can't say it "sucks" when the links and tools are out there but you don't want to manually update it. Instead you want a popup saying its available for your phone. Manually updating your phone doesn't affect future OTAs.
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Fair enough...I should have said Nexus vs. iOS b/c that's the only fair comparison. And are you saying if I direct my device to the appropriate link in the thread you posted that my phone will update? If it's that easy then I stand corrected...otherwise, I stand by what I said.
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Fair enough...I should have said Nexus vs. iOS b/c that's the only fair comparison. And are you saying if I direct my device to the appropriate link in the thread you posted that my phone will update? If it's that easy then I stand corrected...otherwise, I stand by what I said.
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Yes I just editted my post with the link that the OTA would give you. Someone obtained it with a logcat (or app that keeps track of what goes behind the scene).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21320324&postcount=82 just manually flash it. If you use stock recovery then rename the file to update.zip and put it in the root of your sdcard.
Edit: and if you're rooted... https://market.android.com/details?...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ.. use that to keep root.
the obvious answer to this thread is that apple is one company that controls everything. this nexus has two companies involved, each wanting to do updates for one of the versions. dont ask me why this is, but its easy to see how this type of setup could not be optimal.
Haha well I just went to check for updates and lo and behold 4.0.2 was FINALLY there! Irony at it's finest...updating now.
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Haha well I just went to check for updates and lo and behold 4.0.2 was FINALLY there! Irony at it's finest...updating now.
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Yeah mine just came through as well... I have to say, barring updates being halted (very rare occurrence from Google btw), they always say and allow themselve a couple of weeks, but I have always gotten my update within about 4-5 days of first reports, and usually within a day or two.
And having lived through the past few generations of both Android phones (mine) and iPhones (my sisters), there really isn't too much difference (except up until iOS5 a few months ago she had to sit around a computer). Sure she might get them that night, but it takes her literally ~5-6 hours because everyone is rushing to download it, when within a day or two I usually have it.
What is truly annoying is when you are on a non-Google Experience device (AKA G1, Nexus line, Xoom, etc are Google Experience, almost everything else is not), and waiting 4-infinity months for your upgrade because of BOTH custom overlays AND carrier testing/bloat.
The beauty of Android that is not and will not be open to iPhones is that we have extremely capable devs who watch the AOSP repositories like hawks to bring everyone the latest and greatest they can, in near real-time, direct from Google engineers. On iOS one has to wait until the carefully controlled dev releases get pushed out from the magic garden to get a sneak peek.
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Yeah mine just came through as well... I have to say, barring updates being halted (very rare occurrence from Google btw), they always say and allow themselve a couple of weeks, but I have always gotten my update within about 4-5 days of first reports, and usually within a day or two.
And having lived through the past few generations of both Android phones (mine) and iPhones (my sisters), there really isn't too much difference (except up until iOS5 a few months ago she had to sit around a computer). Sure she might get them that night, but it takes her literally ~5-6 hours because everyone is rushing to download it, when within a day or two I usually have it.
What is truly annoying is when you are on a non-Google Experience device (AKA G1, Nexus line, Xoom, etc are Google Experience, almost everything else is not), and waiting 4-infinity months for your upgrade because of BOTH custom overlays AND carrier testing/bloat.
The beauty of Android that is not and will not be open to iPhones is that we have extremely capable devs who watch the AOSP repositories like hawks to bring everyone the latest and greatest they can, in near real-time, direct from Google engineers. On iOS one has to wait until the carefully controlled dev releases get pushed out from the magic garden to get a sneak peek.
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Not sure what is wrong with your sisters internet but I've never had to wait 5-6 hours for an iOS update to download on the day it came out. My biggest issue with the roll out is that there is no communication from Google at all. The users had to figure out that the update was halted only after nobody reported an update for a few weeks.
All in honesty though. Seeing that the OTAs was back in progress since late last night. And considering it hasn't been 24 hours, I think this voids the idea that "Android system updates suck" even if you don't manually flash the update.
I just think it's a lack of announcement on Google's part on announcing the halt of 4.0.2 where I only read that there was a halt on 4.0.3 for Nexus S.
@s.m.knipe: Agreed with manufacturer skins. Try using a Galaxy S where Samsung will refuse to update Galaxy S, a best-seller phone because it cannot fit because of TouchWiz... or all of these other manufacturers releasing phones (CES 2011) with Gingerbread. The only non-Nexus device manufacturer I trust will be ASUS because they come out with timely fashioned updates. Be grateful you're running ICS in the first place.
Sprint and AT&T are pushing out updates for the home screen bug and the home key bug.
https://plus.google.com/photos/1108...499&sqsi=08a8f0bc-e488-422b-9b6c-d8e0a826d79d
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...04/17/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-software-updates
Figures that I leave sprint for the their slow data speeds and firmware updates and now they are always the first to get firmware updates. But I'll take Tmo's data speed over sprint any day of the week.
Anyone know when we are suppose to get our update?!
EDIT: And I already checked Kies but no update.
TMobile is pretty notorious for slow updates. That does have one upside, they test them thoroughly to make sure nothing breaks. It CAN be irritating at times though. Android as a whole could really do with a more universal update system that allows for faster distribution. When an update is released, it will be all over XDA, just watch and someone will post a ZIP you can flash or you can update via Kies.
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Anyone know when we are suppose to get our update?!
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Keep an eye on http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4962 - you'll see future updates there a few days before it becomes available. That's where the bloggers are getting their info from. If you have a news feed/RSS reader, add that page for instant updates on T-Mobile's Note II updates.
No one knows but T-mobile and they probably do not know.
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TMobile is pretty notorious for slow updates. That does have one upside, they test them thoroughly to make sure nothing breaks. It CAN be irritating at times though. Android as a whole could really do with a more universal update system that allows for faster distribution. When an update is released, it will be all over XDA, just watch and someone will post a ZIP you can flash or you can update via Kies.
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Making some kind of modular system where pieces could be upgraded by Google, pieces by the carrier, and pieces by the manufacturer. Let Google handle almost all security updates except maybe device driver stuff. Drivers and whatnot by the maker. Bloatware and the **** they install, let the carriers upgrade.
muqali said:
Making some kind of modular system where pieces could be upgraded by Google, pieces by the carrier, and pieces by the manufacturer. Let Google handle almost all security updates except maybe device driver stuff. Drivers and whatnot by the maker. Bloatware and the **** they install, let the carriers upgrade.
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I think what needs to happen is that Google needs to require a drop dead date for updates. Something to the effect of "we drop an update on X date, and if it is a security update or a patch, the manufacturers/carriers have 30 days to get it out to their phones. If it is an operating system update, they have 120 days, etc. If the manufacturer needs more time to make their GUI work, they can drop a vanilla android update in the meantime.
Actually, I think it'd be great if Google required all manufacturers to make a vanilla android ROM available for their phones anyway. It'd certainly be an asset to the development community.
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I think what needs to happen is that Google needs to require a drop dead date for updates. Something to the effect of "we drop an update on X date, and if it is a security update or a patch, the manufacturers/carriers have 30 days to get it out to their phones. If it is an operating system update, they have 120 days, etc. If the manufacturer needs more time to make their GUI work, they can drop a vanilla android update in the meantime.
Actually, I think it'd be great if Google required all manufacturers to make a vanilla android ROM available for their phones anyway. It'd certainly be an asset to the development community.
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I think the time schedule woukd be a great idea. As for the vanilla android. It wouldn't happen because then google couldn't sell the nexus devices
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I think what needs to happen is that Google needs to require a drop dead date for updates. Something to the effect of "we drop an update on X date, and if it is a security update or a patch, the manufacturers/carriers have 30 days to get it out to their phones. If it is an operating system update, they have 120 days, etc. If the manufacturer needs more time to make their GUI work, they can drop a vanilla android update in the meantime.
Actually, I think it'd be great if Google required all manufacturers to make a vanilla android ROM available for their phones anyway. It'd certainly be an asset to the development community.
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I am hoping some high profile CEO has a trojan cause a major loss. ie Bank of America CEO loses the company 1 billion dollars due to some Android trojan. That might prompt the US Senate and Congress to enact legislation requiring carriers to be more timely and to provide updates for at least the length of the contract you bought the phone on.
Of course Congress acting proactively would work too, but I don't see them having the sense to pass something like that. Especially not with all the money carriers throw around.
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I am hoping some high profile CEO has a trojan cause a major loss. ie Bank of America CEO loses the company 1 billion dollars due to some Android trojan. That might prompt the US Senate and Congress to enact legislation requiring carriers to be more timely and to provide updates for at least the length of the contract you bought the phone on.
Of course Congress acting proactively would work too, but I don't see them having the sense to pass something like that. Especially not with all the money carriers throw around.
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Yeah hoping for a billion dollar hit to the market is a fantastic idea. Of course no serious business takes place on phones right now and those that are serous have their phones encrypted.
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Yeah hoping for a billion dollar hit to the market is a fantastic idea. Of course no serious business takes place on phones right now and those that are serous have their phones encrypted.
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Hey, if it gets consumers what they deserve I don't care about the corporations.
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Hey, if it gets consumers what they deserve I don't care about the corporations.
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Corporations? It affects peoples retirements LOL. You know 401ks...
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I'm back on stock, and what exactly is this bug you speak of? I'm having no issues. Stock/rooted/4.1.2/MB4-No issues at all, super butter, not one bug. Curious, do explain... please.
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I haven't had a nexus in a couple of years and I cant remember google being much faster at pushing out a bunch of updates than the big names like samsung,lg,htc etc..I mean have they gotten better at pushing out updates and more of them at that?
Well fast isn't really the word I would use. Google will be first to update Android so you would get the updates as soon as they are available instead of having to wait for them to be offered through your carrier.. They update as often as needed I guess. Apparently they will release a security update once a month. We'll see how long that lasts. When they do roll out updates they seem to take a couple weeks to hit every device so they are slow in that regard. Most other companies will roll out an update over the course of maybe a couple days rather than weeks.
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Well fast isn't really the word I would use. Google will be first to update Android so you would get the updates as soon as they are available instead of having to wait for them to be offered through your carrier.. They update as often as needed I guess. Apparently they will release a security update once a month. We'll see how long that lasts. When they do roll out updates they seem to take a couple weeks to hit every device so they are slow in that regard. Most other companies will roll out an update over the course of maybe a couple days rather than weeks.
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I think security updates will last a long time, or be forever. Android keeps getting hit with some malware scare or exploit. I think there will be some very minor fixes within the security fix patches from time to time
The only problem with the monthly releases is the Optimizing Apps message that can take a long time. No sooner will these start getting released that normals will start complaining they get an update every few weeks and lose their phone for half an hour while it does it again.
Yeah the need to do something to get the app optimization quicker. Makes flashing roms take forever
Apps are optimized on a per use basis instead of all at once when updating starting with marshmallow. When I updated my n6 to marshmallow it only took seconds to optimize ☺
SysAdmNj said:
I haven't had a nexus in a couple of years and I cant remember google being much faster at pushing out a bunch of updates than the big names like samsung,lg,htc etc..I mean have they gotten better at pushing out updates and more of them at that?
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I'd say they're pretty fast: my Nexus 5 is already running Marshmallow (thought I'd have to wait for my 5x to take a look at it).
rochrunner said:
I'd say they're pretty fast: my Nexus 5 is already running Marshmallow (thought I'd have to wait for my 5x to take a look at it).
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Interesting, are you rooted/unlocked bootloader. Wondering if you'd still get OTA updates if you were on a nexus.
SysAdmNj said:
Interesting, are you rooted/unlocked bootloader. Wondering if you'd still get OTA updates if you were on a nexus.
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I don't do any rooting or unlocking on my devices; just running standard Google Android as delivered.
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One major update every year and a bunch in between.
While it might take a couple weeks after release for users to recieve the OTA, Nexus users can always flash the update themselves within hours of release. So essentially Nexus devices means instantly available updates, often months in advance of any other device.
SysAdmNj said:
I haven't had a nexus in a couple of years and I cant remember google being much faster at pushing out a bunch of updates than the big names like samsung,lg,htc etc..I mean have they gotten better at pushing out updates and more of them at that?
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Google Nexus Devices (latest Ones) are the first lined devices to get the google android update.Google releases developer build of major updates fort the Nexus devices.So Nexus devices are the first devices to get google updates.
Time to update your phones to get all of the cumulative updates.
lonetormenter said:
Time to update your phones to get all of the cumulative updates.
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Yep I'm currently doing that right now, glad the update has all the updates combined into one!
Yeah it was there when I got out the shower this morning as I hadn't even done my morning manual scan for updates yet.
Glad Three finally delivered for you all and in full which is a shock! Thought it would always be behind.
Not bad. 1 week after the non-carrier version. Three must have rejected the mr2 update since it had so many bugs.
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Not bad. 1 week after thennon carrier version. Three must have rejected the mr2 update since it had so many bugs.
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I think you are right
I and a few years others were across on the official Razer forum causing some friction..... The general idea was to create more negative hype quicker than what they could create positive... I think they and three got the point.
Let's hope they keep up now, with the kitguru article they will have some work!
Yeah I saw that KitGuru article come up but seems it got published after the update went live so just bad timing on that.
I didn't want to give razer negatively my point to them was you have a lot of loyal fans of the brand and to communicate what's going on with public updates rather than keep us in the dark. Sometimes they need listen to their customers and respond rather than looking to point the blame.
Got to hear the updates are finally coming through...
Really glad to hear that you 3 UK users are finally getting your updates, as I think it was terrible that you have such a fantastic phone and for no updates to be pushed to the phone (and razer have pushed out about 2-3 updates on my unlocked variant). The update should also contain the latest security patch (I think it's January)...
Hopefully they can (as they have suggested) sync the unlocked and 3 UK variants future updates, simultaneously
I left 3 a few years ago since the price hikes, Are they still bundling bloatware with the OS? Very interested in this if this years devices don't appeal