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Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
sonny88 said:
Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
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I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
deeren said:
I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
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To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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Please people, i don't want to be a jerk, but don't come up with questions like "Why did you buy a hero then?" ..
sonny88 said:
To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
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I'm on the same boat. When I bought my hero I hadn't really seen any working Android phone, either stock or HTC. Now that I have seen both I think that the stock apps and interface are somehow saner than HTC's, and what can I say? I'd prefer to use them.
Why don't you run the Rosie remover. It will get you part of the way to where you want to go
Indeed! but I also prefer the stock browser, the stock music player, the stock calendar, the stock contact list and dialer... and so on. They look less flashy but handier to my taste.
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
Actually, why do magic roms not work with the hero? What kind of modification would you have to do for them to work?
Fredriksen said:
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
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I think that the hero rom is not like the win rom. i mean all the htc customisations superimposed on the windows ones. There, all we had to do was just to remove the htc ones and we automatically got the windows ones.
I guess android's different. we have to remove all the htc customisations and add android's ones. Problem is hero never had the android's applications. what could be done is take a magic rom, remove all the applications and try to port them to the hero.
Problems would definetely arise cause the 2 phones are not 100% identical. some software work on the magic but not on hero bla bla bla.
I know some stock apps do work with the hero. I have been able to use the stock calendar and browser in my hero by replacing the apk and odex files, however replacing the contacts app makes it hang.
We could try to make a list of what apps can be replaced and how, or maybe even make update.zip files specific for that, similar to modaco's rosie remover. How difficult would that be?
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The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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I think that you'll probably find that the difference here is that chefs with a Magic or G1 actively want to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest ROMs. So, when presented with a Hero ROM, they will make the effort to back port it to the hardware they have.
The situation with the Hero is a little different. Here we already have the "latest and greatest", so there is probably very little motivation for a chef to port what is essentially an earlier ROM to the Hero. What you need to find is a chef who has a Hero, who either wants to run stock android, or is interesting in the intellectual challenge!
So, it's not really the case that "the magic can almost run any rom" - it's that their are chefs with Magics who are building these ROMs.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks guys!
I knew i wasn't the only one who wanted a clean vanilla android rom on the hero. Like frandavid100 said before, till there's another "magic rom" or something, we could make a list of apps working on hero.
I've had the same thing with the Contacts.app. This makes the phone freeze, and after removing the battery it constantly reboots.
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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I will do that tomorrow ok? I live in The Netherlands and its 09.35pm and i'm watching a movie
BTW: I also have a stock Magic/ION image. I can extract the apps from there as well. Tomorrow i'll try some apps.
Thanks for the effort guys!
Just another quick post. Below you'll see a list of apps which i'm going to try tomorrow. Please post request apps if i forget one.
- Contacts (probably doesn't work)
- Phone (unknown - probably same as contacts)
- Browser (probably works)
- Music Player (probably works)
- Messages/sms?
- Camera (unknown)
- Albums (probably no multitouch)
- Camcorder (don't know if this one is available)
- Calender (probably works)
- Calculator (unknown)
- Clock (don't know if this one is available)
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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I am sorry.. i'm at my girlfriend and don't have my laptop with me tomorrow i'll post some links to different roms we can work with. But i can assure you they won't work on the hero.
Im also going to try to port the sapphire keyboard to the hero. Don't know if someone already did this, i haven't used google yet.
Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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haha ok lol
I'm going to work on that list now.. wish me luck
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
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Or you can just use the HTC lockscreen and press menu twice!
Regards,
Dave
GSM HERO ONLY
What is it? Fusion!ROM is the idea of Fusing an HTC ROM with a AOSP ROM... it is based on a HTC port stripped down to resemble a AOSP ROM and is clean, very stable, and functional. This is not a Sense ROM
NO DONATIONS! FREE FREE FREE
Benefits...
Looks and feels like a AOSP ROM but with less bugs and more stability, more stuff really working with good speeds and no random reboots.
AOSP Camera always working at 5MP without random corruption, video too.
AOSP Keyboard has a background.
Gallery 3D is really working not just reloading itself when you rotate your phone.
Includes all stock AOSP apps. with the exception of the "in-call" dialler functions.
A2SD Working if you have a partition set.
Superuser permissions
No JIT = more stability I will test a JIT flavor soon.
The catch... some HTC stuff remain hidden because they are required by the frameworks.
The status bar is black because the HTC frameworks have been compiled with white fonts. Maybe some HEX editing can fix this.
When using the search feature the graphics are a little off by a few pixels but everything works 100% maybe I can fix this.
You need to complete the HTC setup wizard if you want USB disk mounting to work... I recommend skipping to the finish and then setting up your mail and other accounts after.
The Dialler is AOSP but the "in call" keypad is HTC I have not found a way to replace Phone.apk with the stock AOSP one.
All settings work but the Personalize functions are removed so they will cause a force close if you try and use them.
Animations are disabled by default... just enable them.
Using the HTC Lockscreen for now... the AOSP one has no background.
HTC Contacts and Call log remain in launcher "all apps" and are required for syncing to work but you don't have to use them at all and they won't show there ugly faces, just make sure you pick AOSP Contacts as your default when prompted.
Things to test...
Multi-language stuff... do locals work?
Google sync works but is it also possible to sync your contacts and calendar using HTC sync?
Internet tether is untested please report.
Feel free to report any bugs that affect your Android experience I'll do what I can to help.
Camera Greenish color? I get different results if I leave the white balance set to auto in various lighting and I think that is normal.
A full wipe is recommended...if you are coming from a different ROM.
Change Log...
R1 Initial Relese
Download FusionROM R1
R1 is available.
This is a re-release of the FusionAOSP attempt... this time all site rules are satisfied and I even changed the ROM name by popular demand.
Please do not post in this thread unless you have actually tried this ROM and have something interesting to say. Thank you.
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This is a re-release of the FusionAOSP attempt... this time all site rules are satisfied and I even changed the ROM name by popular demand.
Please do not post in this thread unless you have actually tried this ROM and have something interesting to say. Thank you.
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Hey I love your ROM and I am a cheering Canadian!!
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This is a re-release of the FusionAOSP attempt... this time all site rules are satisfied and I even changed the ROM name by popular demand.
Please do not post in this thread unless you have actually tried this ROM and have something interesting to say. Thank you.
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Hi can you fix the Voicemail notification??
sorry, but from which Rom have ported?
on which source is compiled?
robin04 said:
sorry, but from which Rom have ported?
on which source is compiled?
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I think it is VillainROM 5.5
Hello and thanks
dan96815 said:
Hey I love your ROM and I am a cheering Canadian!!
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so can you look into voicemail?
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and markets search the bubble is half cut off
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Yep... I did not notice a problem before but I will do some tests.
rbrucemtl said:
NO DONATIONS! FREE FREE FREE
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Nice to know there's some people still cooking ROMs that aren't doing it for money.
all the vanilla roms have the voicemail notification
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nice to have a Canadian cooker!!!
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rbrucemtl said:
GSM HERO ONLY
What is it? Fusion!ROM is the idea of Fusing an HTC ROM with a AOSP ROM... it is based on a HTC port stripped down to resemble a AOSP ROM and is clean, very stable, and functional. This is not a Sense ROM
NO DONATIONS! FREE FREE FREE
Benefits...
Looks and feels like a AOSP ROM but with less bugs and more stability, more stuff really working with good speeds and no random reboots.
AOSP Camera always working at 5MP without random corruption, video too.
AOSP Keyboard has a background.
Gallery 3D is really working not just reloading itself when you rotate your phone.
Includes all stock AOSP apps. with the exception of the "in-call" dialler functions.
A2SD Working if you have a partition set.
Superuser permissions
No JIT = more stability I will test a JIT flavor soon.
The catch... some HTC stuff remain hidden because they are required by the frameworks.
The status bar is black because the HTC frameworks have been compiled with white fonts. Maybe some HEX editing can fix this.
When using the search feature the graphics are a little off by a few pixels but everything works 100% maybe I can fix this.
You need to complete the HTC setup wizard if you want USB disk mounting to work... I recommend skipping to the finish and then setting up your mail and other accounts after.
The Dialler is AOSP but the "in call" keypad is HTC I have not found a way to replace Phone.apk with the stock AOSP one.
All settings work but the Personalize functions are removed so they will cause a force close if you try and use them.
Animations are disabled by default... just enable them.
Using the HTC Lockscreen for now... the AOSP one has no background.
HTC Contacts and Call log remain in launcher "all apps" and are required for syncing to work but you don't have to use them at all and they won't show there ugly faces, just make sure you pick AOSP Contacts as your default when prompted.
Things to test...
Multi-language stuff... do locals work?
Google sync works but is it also possible to sync your contacts and calendar using HTC sync?
Internet tether is untested please report.
Feel free to report any bugs that affect your Android experience I'll do what I can to help.
Camera Greenish color? I get different results if I leave the white balance set to auto in various lighting and I think that is normal.
A full wipe is recommended...if you are coming from a different ROM.
Change Log...
R1 Initial Relese
Download FusionROM R1
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sorry, but from which Rom have ported?
on which source is compiled?
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sorry, but from which Rom have ported?
on which source is compiled?
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What do you think? All the relevant info for compiling Android for the Hero is freely available on the web... just do some research.
rbrucemtl said:
What do you think? All the relevant info for compiling Android for the Hero is freely available on the web... just do some research.
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I think he was asking in terms of, is this based on a stock CDMA Rom or Modded CDMA Rom.
I thought I'd add CDMA part on there before someone starts trying to tell me there isn't a stock 2.1 rom for the hero yet....
jaymac407 said:
Nice to know there's some people still cooking ROMs that aren't doing it for money.
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If you are talking about Villain,you should stop a minute to think...
They ask for donations only,all the ROM´s eventually are avayable for free,they work hard to have every single port out there avayable for us,they have OTA that needs a server...
I havent donated as i dont do web transactions(got burned once) but i think its nice of them to have goodies for people that made donations and helps them...They could work on the ROM´s just for them,and we wouldnt have half the ROM´s we have nowadays(most of them are based in Villains builds)
So if you feel left out because others are using a ROM already and you dont,donate...they deserve it
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What do you think? All the relevant info for compiling Android for the Hero is freely available on the web... just do some research.
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the question is not of general policy. if you look, are working longer than you, I do not need to search on google.
the question is addressed to you, and it refers to your Rom.
thanks in advance
Well like the rest of the devs. on this forum I'm just waiting for the official GSM Hero 2.1 ROM to base my custom ROM on.
robin04 said:
the question is not of general policy. if you look, are working longer than you, I do not need to search on google.
the question is addressed to you, and it refers to your Rom.
thanks in advance
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If you are talking about Villain,you should stop a minute to think...
They ask for donations only,all the ROM´s eventually are avayable for free,they work hard to have every single port out there avayable for us,they have OTA that needs a server...
I havent donated as i dont do web transactions(got burned once) but i think its nice of them to have goodies for people that made donations and helps them...They could work on the ROM´s just for them,and we wouldnt have half the ROM´s we have nowadays(most of them are based in Villains builds)
So if you feel left out because others are using a ROM already and you dont,donate...they deserve it
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I never refered to a particular ROM, so this entire comment is irrelevant and off-topic.
Visit Villain site to get it. I've just installed and it works a treat.
P.S. Still can't believe I am the first to post this news?!?
carrozza said:
Visit Villain site to get it. I've just installed and it works a treat.
P.S. Still can't believe I am the first to post this news?!?
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Cause all the people are busy flashing Feeyo's rom Nathan and Villain team were just a little too late. I doubt there'll be lot of people trying the Superhero now.
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Cause all the people are busy flashing Feeyo's rom Nathan and Villain team were just a little too late. I doubt there'll be lot of people trying the Superhero now.
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no , they aren´t
ok, most of them
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ok, most of them
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Do you know if everybody likes Sense UI ?
This isn't even the ROM that is similar to it. That is coming soon
Finishing touches to the last wee niggles etc. ongoing
Exactly, Sense UI is not for everyone.
I for one love that SuperHero bring only some Sense UI bits (black notification bar, calendar, etc.) but for the rest is 90% clean Android 2.1 Eclair.
Just look at different sizes:
- SuperHero = 92MB
- ChronosDroid = 103MB
P.S. Ask an iPhone user how far he can go customizing his phone... eheheh!
carrozza said:
Exactly, Sense UI is not for everyone.
I for one love that SuperHero bring only some Sense UI bits (black notification bar, calendar, etc.) but for the rest is 90% clean Android 2.1 Eclair.
Just look at different sizes:
- SuperHero = 92MB
- ChronosDroid = 103MB
P.S. Ask an iPhone user how far he can go customizing his phone... eheheh!
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Just to argue a little its not that clean, there quite a few sense apps, sure no widgets. Thats why I actually like SuperHero ROMs.
FyI clean Vanilla ROM size is ~50Mb only.
this isnt vanilla, its villainrom without rosie and htc lockscreen based on some aosp stuff, but it still has sense ui framework which allows you to use htc apps such as htcdialer and htccontacts and htc facebook sync
I bet a lot of people will try this one...it has Villain quality stamp on it.
I hope Villain team work on the cyanogenmod 5.0.7...its nice for me to be able to have the great themes out there for CM 5.0.7,the only reason why i wont try this.
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this isnt vanilla, its villainrom without rosie and htc lockscreen based on some aosp stuff, but it still has sense ui framework which allows you to use htc apps such as htcdialer and htccontacts and htc facebook sync
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can we get vanilla please because the wiimote app is not working on this which indicates its sense and it only works on vanilla. Or atleast strip the sense bits out and put in the bluetooth files needed from vanilla PLEASE. I found the rom fast
Just a little niggle but shouldn't Nathan be the one announcing his roms?just a thought
So frustrating, I get an OutOfMemory each time at startup ! Full-wiped and flashed twice, same result : at first boot I come to the lock screen, frozen, with the words "Invalid SIM card", and an OutOfMemory exception if I check logcat.
I get sim card invalid. Tried 2 times with and without sim lock. Wiped all I have, except SD. What I never needed to wipe until now.
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Have you got sim lock with a pin code on??
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Just a little niggle but shouldn't Nathan be the one announcing his roms?just a thought
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Nathan was having a night off and decided to pot today. It seems his ROMs are so eagerly awaited that people will post them before even he gets a chance.
I get sim card invalid. Tried 2 times with and without sim lock. Wiped all I have, except SD. What I never needed to wipe until now.
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Hi
Big red letters on the post that's remove sim pin.......
Crashes (resets) the phone with JIT enabled a lot more than I care about, but then we were warned it could be unstable. But overall, very impressive!
I decided to go for this one because all the "drama" over on the Cronos thread spooked me a bit. Might let that one settle for a while before touching it...
EDIT: In fact it seems to be rebooting by itself now every single time it boots up, once everything has loaded. Think I'll have to disable JIT just so it's usable today.
The villain site is off line. someone could post the download link? thx
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The villain site is off line. someone could post the download link? thx
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The link was on the site
I can't make mirrors as the entire server is down just now, I think for maintenance.
I will update the twitter feed @VillainROM as soon as I hear anything about it.
I don't have a local copy of the ROM either to upload
Got loads of servers, but nothing to upload to them
Sorry folks
Hey guys i finally got this port to a level of usefulness i wanted, i had some insane problems while porting it mainly the capacitive keys not working, but i got around that today, so yea today i kindly bring you the Droid X Gingerbread MotoBlur G2 port.
To lock Gps Use this radio 26.04.02.17
To other Devs if you plan on porting this rom to a different device, please pm me before doing so, i really out did my self with this port and it would suck if people start porting it without giving me proper credit.
Working:
GSm
Hw3d
Sound
Bluetooth
Sensors
Data
GPS
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Wifi
Camera
Camcorder
video playback
Sim Card contact syncing
Sdcard mount promt from the pull down menu
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Changelog:
v1.1
Fixed the gsm crash while making or receving calls
Rebased the whole rom on the new tmous stock leak.
Fixed gps not sure if its working, as i dont have any internet to test it with.
ScreenShots:
Video: This video is old, when capacitive keys did not work, so ignore the key app on the right.
Download Link:
v1.1
http://www.mediafire.com/?h4bu4hecuk5aozt
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v1.0
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbcw1dy9gtba6qj
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Known Issue:
Do not try to play any video it will break sound, but dont worry if you do just Restart your phone, sound should be back again.
Thanks:
911sniper for the leak
And google for there libs ofc
kosmikick for his great ideas.
Awesome Magic. I will try this out tomorrow.
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wow, awesome btw, you must be have a lot of time, doing porting a lot of project...
always give us surprise, thanks
Rom is done uploading enjoy guys.
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Rom is done uploading enjoy guys.
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Awesome, like always a hard working dev.
Quick question, is landscape mode supported?
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GunToYoMouth123 said:
Awesome, like always a hard working dev.
Quick question, is landscape mode supported?
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I think its not since the Droid X is all touch screen
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Giving it a shot!
Amazing work though!
Woo finally a Droid x port!
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Awesome, like always a hard working dev.
Quick question, is landscape mode supported?
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Yes landscape mode is supported when you slide out the keyboard.
2 issues i have been having is gps doesn't work and command rm not found when using root explorer to clean up verizon apps.
Getting a new error when opening browser after like 5 seconds it closes w/o force close. I looked in alogcat and it showed process 3048 browser started then after a couple line it showed process 3048 terminated by signal(11)
Can't wait for this good job
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Badass!!! Can't wait to try this! Definitely one of the best LOOKING roms i ever seen!
Working pretty well....
Launcher is a little choppy...but seriously! Cant complain! Love the UI animations though!
Definitely looks spectacular, I'll probably try it out and get back. Hope you get the WiFi and such worked out, will post back after test running
ok - not to be a **** or anything but this begs the question:
Why do you WANT blur on your phone? Everyone i know with a blurred motorola phone struggles to make it blurless and wants to remove that crap as much as possible - it is a serious detriment to performance and battery life.
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ok - not to be a **** or anything but this begs the question:
Why do you WANT blur on your phone? Everyone i know with a blurred motorola phone struggles to make it blurless and wants to remove that crap as much as possible - it is a serious detriment to performance and battery life.
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A bit of variety, perhaps?
yea im aware of the many issues, i still have alot of work left with this rom, about landscape mode it should be working just fine even with the keyboard out, also the browser im not sure as i havent fixed wifi so i cant use the internet on the rom. And yes i figured gps was not working again iv got no internet so i have no way of fixing that, i need wifi for that XD. anyways im glad you guys like it.
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ok - not to be a **** or anything but this begs the question:
Why do you WANT blur on your phone? Everyone i know with a blurred motorola phone struggles to make it blurless and wants to remove that crap as much as possible - it is a serious detriment to performance and battery life.
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Because this version of blur is different from the others and better, and well because we on the g2 forums deserve variety, other than the 3 classic roms, sense,cm7 or miui. And no i dont think this rom will drain that much battery or affect performance, our gpu's beats the crap out of the omap that the droids have.
Also found that when calling someone it will restart the phone and it will keep you on the call till the os finishes reloading.
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Because this version of blur is different from the others and better, and well because we on the g2 forums deserve variety, other than the 3 classic roms, sense,cm7 or miui. And no i dont think this rom will drain that much battery or affect performance, our gpu's beats the crap out of the omap that the droids have.
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Because this version of blur is different from the others and better, and well because we on the g2 forums deserve variety, other than the 3 classic roms, sense,cm7 or miui. And no i dont think this rom will drain that much battery or affect performance, our gpu's beats the crap out of the omap that the droids have.
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i'm guessing this is based on the Droid X GB leak - the blur is different than the blur on 2.2? My girlfriend was running stock 2.2 on the DX and getitng like 12 hrs of battery life. Then running Liberty 2.1 (blurless 2.2 based) she was getting 24 hours +. I flashed her over to the Liberty GB alphas (has a lot of blur in it) and have yet to see how the batt life is.
What i do know is that if you look @ running services (on the DX Liberty GB) and use an app like autostarts to see the on startup apps - blur has a whole ton of blur stuff that runs in the background from startup on - unrelated to ui changes and widgets.
What i fail to understand is not manufacturer ui (which differentiates) but why it has to be baked in so deep into the OS and kernel that it makes it impossible to remove if - god forbid - you want a more stock experience.
I have a lot of respect for any dev who brings more variety and software choice for our phones and i dont mean to undermine his work. I guess i just get pissed that companies like motorola make it so hard to go stock (particularly mess with that damned bootloader) that they would rather u ruin your device (i soft bricked my gf's droid x once and the only way to get back to stock is a complete SBF flash - a rare turn of events that i've never had the displeasure of running into on an HTC phone).
On a related note to this ROM, i noticed on Liberty GB (but not on Liberty 2.x) you can remove stuff from the notification area because there is a minus button (ie you dont have to clear all notifications or click on the notification itself to clear it - there is a button that enables its removal). Is this part of blur? I'd love to see this ported to AOSP.
Full credit goes to Ssserpentine, SpaceMoose, and OldMacnut for their work on their united efforts to port Honeycomb to our tablets! It seems they are no longer working on it so I decided to create this thread and see what we all could to do together to improve what they have given us!
The point of this thread is to find ways to gather anyone with knowledge on developing, even if its just the "lowly 7-Zippers" like me, to see how we can remove minor bugs and small issues from the ROM. I know Oldmacnut was going to pick it up, but he has a lot on his plate right now and he has been in pain and is more interested in finishing the CM7 Port instead. I respect his decision, but so many people want honeycomb working on our tabs. So I am turning to the dev community here to see if we can group together and fix things in this rom together. If we cant solve the major bugs, lets address all the little things, cuz the little things add up.
Spacemoose made a list of suggestions from users earlier on how to solve minor issues, and little workarounds, but I would like to see if there is a way to roll up those fixes into one full updated ROM flashable through a zip/odin/heimdall file, and see if we can come up with more. You can see this post here, but I have added them to the second post as well in a more organized form.
Some Useful Links as Well:
SpaceMoose's Github
6-19-11 Apps Confirmed Working on [CDMA] / [GSM] Honeycomb Alpha 2.5
Currently Known Bugs:
CDMA
A) Red Border Around Screen at Random Times
B) Constant Gallery Force Close
C) Stock Launcher hangs for many seconds at a time randomly
D) SD Card Does Not Mount
E) Youtube app does not work
F) Orientation Sensor is not functional
G) Honeycomb thinks Device Keyboard is enabled by default
H) When pressing Quick Settings, an image that is semi transparent that is supposed to cover the entire screen isnt scaled properly
I) HQ Youtube does not work (LQ does on the mobile site)
J) Quick Settings Shortcut on Bottom Right Side (Wi-Fi Toggle, Brightness Slider, etc) appears for a second but disappears afterwards.
K) Flash Player is not Fully Functional
GSM - Please Submit or confirm if the above bugs are the same and/or you have different ones!
Red - Signifies an issue that is unaddressed or has not been solved yet.
Orange - Signifies a Temporary Fix or Workaround is mentioned in the post I linked to.
Blue - Will signify a temporary fix or a work around that we have been able to include in a flashable file
Green - Will signify a bug that has been completely fixed in a flashable file.
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Lets put our minds together and see what we can do guys! Btw this was inspired by Rodderik's thread [SPRINT][CDMA]Galaxy Tab (SPH-P100) Mega Development Starter Thread (CWM, EF17 TAR), so if youre interested in this, you might like his thread too!
Current Workarounds/Temporary Fixes:
Letters correspond to the bugs listed in the OP.
A)
Ssserpentine:
1) Open up Dev Tools
2) Go to Development Settings
3) StrictMode Visual Indicator - turn it off
4) back out of app and now open it again.
5) If this doesn't get rid of MOST of the red borders, REBOOT and open app again.
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B)
anfalas:
"Get Gallery3D to play nice by going into settings, applications then 'Clear Data' - works great, can change wallpaper etc. Only downside is it has to be done each reboot....."
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C)
Ssserpentine:
“WANT IMPROVED UI, LESS RED BORDERS, LESS FC'S AND SCROLLING AND SOFT KEYS THAT PLAY NICER? Try adw launcher. for some reason just having it installed helps just as much as using it.”
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D)
mattman83:
"to mount UMS if you have no external SD then use the below line. Same changes as above... echo /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 > /sys/devices/platform/s3c-usbgadget/gadget/lun1/file"
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or
corodius:
"if you have an external sd, by extending the commands to: su mount -t vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/sdcard/ mount -t vfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ This will mount the cards the way they are originally mounted in the samsung/overcome roms."
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E)
Use m.youtube.com to play LQ videos
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F)
ztag100:
"If you download barcontrol from the market, you can set it so that a notification links to the rotation app, thus when the notification is clicked it will change the orientation."
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G)
"one way to load keyboards On the language/keyboard settings page, turn physical keyboard to "no" or "off" or something like that. Now when on a text field, you should see a small keyboard tray in bottom right corner.."
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I) ---
J) ---
K) ---
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Submit a New Bug or Fix:
Please submit bugs using the color coded system I explained in the OP. If you are submitting information on solving a bug please address the bug by the corresponding letter so that we can stay organized and know what youre talking about. If you have a new bug please check the OP to make sure I havent listed it, then post it on here and dont worry about the letter, I will alphabetize them. Of course I will credit you in the OP for any fixes or workarounds you may find! Good luck to us all!
Reserved as well!
Yes, please
I would really love a Honeycomb ROM for the Galaxy Tab. There are many reasons why I want to put Honeycomb onto the original Galaxy Tab.
Just see the difference for yourself: Blank space, single pane, one-category-at-a-time menus in Gingerbread
VS.
Less blank space, concise, dual pane interfaces in Honeycomb.
Gingerbread apps are just designed for smaller smartphone screens, so they look too big and spaced-out on the 7-inch Galaxy Tab for my taste. I would really love to see some tablet-optimized apps on the Galaxy Tab!
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And yes, I respect the developers and appreciate them so much for the time they put into making custom roms a reality for us!
Please make the thread for GSM also.
TheATHEiST said:
Please make the thread for GSM also.
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Are the bugs the same? Or are there others that I havent mentioned? I will try to make a section for both tabs if theres different bugs in each one.
Why no mention of ssserpentine?
In op or thread tittle?
He worked on the GSM version.
Moose did the major part of the port and the cdma version.
That other person stumbled, or so he claims, on a audio fix. Never saw a release of this apparent audio fix.
Wonder how many donations he got on open thread with no release posted.
Hmm.
Makes ya wonder why that thread is even there.
Dole out the credits properly.
Just know it needed to be said, and go ahead and get mad. Truth hurts.
alot of angry responces coming, maybe, but dare ya to point out a single lie in this post. Even an exaggeration.
Moose did hc for MONTHS and noone offered any valid help, except ssserpentine, why do you think anyone is gonna get off their but now?
Why don't you, punkrock?
Cause I know how utterly hopeless this task is.
Why don't you all just wait for the leak of the next os?
That so much closer than some random Joe, or Joe's on xda getting hc ported at this point .
is the dead horse braised yet?
Still, hope is eternal, I suppose
PunkRock said:
Why no mention of ssserpentine?
In op or thread tittle?
He worked on the GSM version.
Moose did the major part of the port and the cdma version.
That other person stumbled, or so he claims, on a audio fix. Never saw a release of this apparent audio fix.
Wonder how many donations he got on open thread with no release posted.
Hmm.
Makes ya wonder why that thread is even there.
Dole out the credits properly.
Just know it needed to be said, and go ahead and get mad. Truth hurts.
alot of angry responces coming, maybe, but dare ya to point out a single lie in this post. Even an exaggeration.
Moose did hc for MONTHS and noone offered any valid help, except ssserpentine, why do you think anyone is gonna get off their but now?
Why don't you, punkrock?
Cause I know how utterly hopeless this task is.
Why don't you all just wait for the leak of the next os?
That so much closer than some random Joe, or Joe's on xda getting hc ported at this point .
is the dead horse braised yet?
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Easy man, in my frenzy of trying to organize the thread, I forgot to credit Ssserpentine in the OP, youre right he did contribute a lot, no need to be rash, I will update it right now.
EDIT: btw oldmacnut did make an audio fix, im running his rom right now, I downloaded it when he had it posted before he took it down, and Im sure some of the bugs I mentioned are fixable on the rom level rather than through adb. My goal wasnt to debug the rom completely, it was to incorporate all the existing bug fixes and workarounds into one rom, while possibly solving others. Also the GSM devs are aplenty here, while we barely have any CDMA, Im sure we have enough talent to make it better than what it is. It might not be flawless, but Im sure we can squeeze more functionality out of it.
Its weird,
Honeycomb is more or less froyo based, obviously as we had hc long before gb, so at the time when I started getting into this whole dev thing hc/froyo seemed just different to me.
But after working on the abortion called gingerbread, and working onbthe kernel stuff, froyo to me, is starting to look like a much more viable and dev friendly option.
Alot if the work Dan did in hc was from scratch, or from the sdk, etc. The audio fix I did was from both.
The big issue on getting hc up and going into a usuable rom is source, we really really need that source for hc. Otherwise, its going to be a long drawn out road of trial and error building with alot of these issues never really getting fixed.
Truth is,
No device with our hardware exists with hc, so no drivers that we need.
We need Google to release the hc source.
I liked hc on my tab just like y'all, but.......I know its just a novel weekend fun toy till we get better resources.
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oldmacnut said:
Its weird,
Honeycomb is more or less froyo based, obviously as we had hc long before gb, so at the time when I started getting into this whole dev thing hc/froyo seemed just different to me.
But after working on the abortion called gingerbread, and working onbthe kernel stuff, froyo to me, is starting to look like a much more viable and dev friendly option.
Alot if the work Dan did in hc was from scratch, or from the sdk, etc. The audio fix I did was from both.
The big issue on getting hc up and going into a usuable rom is source, we really really need that source for hc. Otherwise, its going to be a long drawn out road of trial and error building with alot of these issues never really getting fixed.
Truth is,
No device with our hardware exists with hc, so no drivers that we need.
We need Google to release the hc source.
I liked hc on my tab just like y'all, but.......I know its just a novel weekend fun toy till we get better resources.
Sent from my SCH-I800 using xda premium
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Yeah I know, the lack of source sucks along with the fact we dont have drivers. I dont think we'll have everything working anytime soon at all, if ever even, but I think some of the minor annoyances like the disappearing quick settings toggle, sdcard mounting issues, and graphical errors can be solved without that kind of stuff. Me personally, Id just like HQ Video Playback and 3D Graphics working a hundred percent along with orientation, but as you said no drivers so idk how easy that'd be. Still, Im sure we could solve some of these minor issues. I keep browsing over the Nook Color Forums trying to find hints to solving some of these things
GSM Tab here I'll flash the old 2.5 alpha release and confirm these bugs, see what else I can do.
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BulletproofIdeal said:
GSM Tab here I'll flash the old 2.5 alpha release and confirm these bugs, see what else I can do.
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Nice to see something happening here. I love my Tab but would like some advancements in OS to address specific issues. I am very new to the dev side of the Android OS but would like to get involved.
--Mike
What blows my mind is that they have created an almost perfect HC port for the $150.00 walmart sold viewsonic g-tablet by means of the flashback roms so why is it so hard to get HC working on our tabs? And why can't someone just dump the Rom from the gtab10.1 and use that as a starting point?
On a different note, the alpha 2.5 HC Rom for gsm, the sd cards will not mount no matter what, I've tried The terminal and the mount instructions many times all I am able to do is get the tab to recognize my external sd as the internal sd, and if you try to go to settings applications and clear data for the gallery you get a force close as soon as you tap manage applications
Sent From Githrog's Tab
Ok done some immediate testing on my GSM Tab for some of the known issues
A) Red Border Around Screen at Random Times
Confirmed
Solution: is the same as the CDMA
B) Constant Gallery Force Close
Confirmed
Solution: Cannot be fixed through Setting, crashes as soon as you try to Manage Applications
C) Stock Launcher hangs for many seconds at a time randomly
Not really was slow on boot but no major problems
D) SD Card Does Not Mount
Confirmed
Solution: Haven't tested fix yet
E) Youtube app does not work
Confirmed
Solution: Confirmed
F) Orientation Sensor is not functional
Confirmed
Solution: "Rotating Screen" flips screen incorrectly so that capacitive buttons are on the top of the device
G) Honeycomb thinks Device Keyboard is enabled by default
Confirmed
Solution: Must be set on each boot
H) When pressing Quick Settings, an image that is semi transparent that is supposed to cover the entire screen isnt scaled properly
Confirmed
I) HQ Youtube does not work (LQ does on the mobile site)
Confirmed
J) Quick Settings Shortcut on Bottom Right Side (Wi-Fi Toggle, Brightness Slider, etc) appears for a second but disappears afterwards.
The widget that display battery level, time, etc stays active however no settings are located underneath it. While this menu is expanded a press on the bottom bar will cause the settings to briefly appear but then the whole menu will close
K) Flash Player is not Fully Functional
Not tested
"New" GSM bugs
1. Wi-fi settings are not saved on restart
2. Manage Applications and Running Services menu causes force close of settings
3. Small thing but Tab's first start had language set to Spanish (Not sure if it was spanish but it certainly was not English)
And as always 3G does not work (tried APN settings but it wouldn't let me save)
Alright I'm back to MIUI until I can find some more time on my hands
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Githrog said:
What blows my mind is that they have created an almost perfect HC port for the $150.00 walmart sold viewsonic g-tablet by means of the flashback roms so why is it so hard to get HC working on our tabs? And why can't someone just dump the Rom from the gtab10.1 and use that as a starting point?
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If it were that simple I'm sure someone would have thought of that To be honest I think the problem is that the Tab is an extremely fractured device; it was really the first Android tablet to directly compete with the iPad, so it was spread as wide as possible. That's great for Samsung who got a pretty large base of customer but sucks for devs because the GSM and CDMA are 2 very different devices not to mention the P-1000N. When I got my Tab last month the first thing I noticed in this forum was the fragmentation between the different versions of Tabs. More profoundly this means that the developers are split apart, usually when one dev makes a break through everyone else can take advantage of it (i.e. the amazing Voodoo Sound/Color hacks) but not here. I feel like everyone is by themselves and I truly feel bad for the developers because they must make their own breakthroughs on top of dealing with complaints from Tab users with other versions that they want this awesome thing on their Tab. As if its no big deal to go and buy a $450 device to develop something as a hobby and then release it for free for people on the internet after already buying nearly the exact same device.
Sadly I think the Tab is a perfect storm working against modifying it in any ground breaking ways. Don't get me wrong I love my Tab and will try to help getting Honeycomb running but I almost feel like it would just be easier to wait for Ice Cream Sandwhich. /rant
Guys, there is no reason to develop honeycomb, it is inposible to make fully functional honeycomb rom, wait a month or less for ICS, read this (quote from android police posted today):
Honeycomb is closed source. Nobody can make a tablet without Google's blessing. The reason given is that Honeycomb was rushed out the door, and the code isn't good enough for an open source release. They're right you know, setting the emulator to anything smaller than a tablet will result in about a million force closes. Honeycomb just isn't as supportive of hardware as Gingerbread was. To save developers the headache of supporting a platform that wasn't ready, Android's openness got shelved.
Luckily this is going to change. The big cheese said so himself on the Official Android Developers blog, "This temporary delay does not represent a change in strategy. We remain firmly committed to providing Android as an open source platform across many device types." Source code is coming back. This will make the modding community's life much easier. Cyanogenmod 8 (I got excited just typing that) and Ice Cream Sandwich will be able to get hacked onto just about anything.
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CROrION said:
Guys, there is no reason to develop honeycomb, it is inposible to make fully functional honeycomb rom, wait a month or less for ICS, read this (quote from android police posted today):
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I just wanted an excuse to try out Honeycomb
BulletproofIdeal said:
Ok done some immediate testing on my GSM Tab for some of the known issues
A) Red Border Around Screen at Random Times
Confirmed
Solution: is the same as the CDMA
B) Constant Gallery Force Close
Confirmed
Solution: Cannot be fixed through Setting, crashes as soon as you try to Manage Applications
C) Stock Launcher hangs for many seconds at a time randomly
Not really was slow on boot but no major problems
D) SD Card Does Not Mount
Confirmed
Solution: Haven't tested fix yet
E) Youtube app does not work
Confirmed
Solution: Confirmed
F) Orientation Sensor is not functional
Confirmed
Solution: "Rotating Screen" flips screen incorrectly so that capacitive buttons are on the top of the device
G) Honeycomb thinks Device Keyboard is enabled by default
Confirmed
Solution: Must be set on each boot
H) When pressing Quick Settings, an image that is semi transparent that is supposed to cover the entire screen isnt scaled properly
Confirmed
I) HQ Youtube does not work (LQ does on the mobile site)
Confirmed
J) Quick Settings Shortcut on Bottom Right Side (Wi-Fi Toggle, Brightness Slider, etc) appears for a second but disappears afterwards.
The widget that display battery level, time, etc stays active however no settings are located underneath it. While this menu is expanded a press on the bottom bar will cause the settings to briefly appear but then the whole menu will close
K) Flash Player is not Fully Functional
Not tested
"New" GSM bugs
1. Wi-fi settings are not saved on restart
2. Manage Applications and Running Services menu causes force close of settings
3. Small thing but Tab's first start had language set to Spanish (Not sure if it was spanish but it certainly was not English)
And as always 3G does not work (tried APN settings but it wouldn't let me save)
Alright I'm back to MIUI until I can find some more time on my hands
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If it were that simple I'm sure someone would have thought of that To be honest I think the problem is that the Tab is an extremely fractured device; it was really the first Android tablet to directly compete with the iPad, so it was spread as wide as possible. That's great for Samsung who got a pretty large base of customer but sucks for devs because the GSM and CDMA are 2 very different devices not to mention the P-1000N. When I got my Tab last month the first thing I noticed in this forum was the fragmentation between the different versions of Tabs. More profoundly this means that the developers are split apart, usually when one dev makes a break through everyone else can take advantage of it (i.e. the amazing Voodoo Sound/Color hacks) but not here. I feel like everyone is by themselves and I truly feel bad for the developers because they must make their own breakthroughs on top of dealing with complaints from Tab users with other versions that they want this awesome thing on their Tab. As if its no big deal to go and buy a $450 device to develop something as a hobby and then release it for free for people on the internet after already buying nearly the exact same device.
Sadly I think the Tab is a perfect storm working against modifying it in any ground breaking ways. Don't get me wrong I love my Tab and will try to help getting Honeycomb running but I almost feel like it would just be easier to wait for Ice Cream Sandwhich. /rant
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Wow now that is the kinda posts i like seeing on here! I will try to update the OP tonight with this info! Thanks so much! Definitely echo your sentiments about the fractured and fragmented development we have going on here, it really sucks =/
Ive found out that replacing the existing Gallery with Gallery3D should fix the FC that keeps popping up.
I think Ive found a working Youtube App (in LQ).
Ive also found a hint towards solving the sdcard mounting issue. Its not the vold.fstab its something either in the framework or ramdisk within the kernel, according to the Nook Color Forums.
This thread is interesting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062626 , actually the entire nook color forum is interesting for finding fixes.
Also changing the dalvik_heapsize to a certain value is supposed to increase app compatibility. Before I update the OP with some of these things, I wanna do a little more testing and see what I can come up with.
Sorry to bother for help,
Sorry to bother you guys for help, but I've been trying to install Oldmacnut's updated of Spacemoose's CDMA Honeycomb (2.5.1) for hours now, with no success.
I used Rodderick's awesome stock rom/kernel and got into clockworkmod (using 4.0.1.5 or 3.0.0.0), installed the zip from there, then rebooted the phone, but I would either 1) be stuck at logo for 10+ minutes 2) see the Sprint startup video loop over and over again, or 3) get stuck on a turned on, but black screen.
How did you guys install Honeycomb on your CDMA tab? Am I doing something wrong? Should I use Spacemoose's 2.5 rom instead of Oldmacnut's?
EDIT: NEVER MIND, IT BOOTED INTO HONEYCOMB. I am in a foreign language, haha, I'm guessing Portuguese?
EDIT EDIT: Google Translate detects the language as Catalan. Haha!
iliveinabucket said:
EDIT EDIT: Google Translate detects the language as Catalan. Haha!
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Hehe that happened to me as well
First Impressions and problems encountered
HOLY SHOOT THIS IS QUITE FAST!
Considering there is no graphics acceleration support, Honeycomb runs much faster than I anticipated. SD card support is fantastic, and so is hearing sound! (I love you OMC) The UI is awetastic and the standard web browser is blazing fast. Scrolling in web pages is faster on Honeycomb than on Gingerbread stock.
The jittery touch screen bug I have is still there, unfortunately. Damn bug drives me crazy sometimes. I'm sure somebody has this problem that many of us have but have not found a fix to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970965
Basically, when I hold down my finger to scroll on white or light-color backgrounds, the screen shakes back and forth in a spastic, noticeable way, especially when I hold it in place. This happens on every single rom I've been on, froyo, GB, CM7, and now Honeycomb. Has anyone found a fix for that yet?
Anyways, I think all the known Honeycomb bugs are true to me too. Youtube force closes on me, GPS doesn't work, auto-orientation doesn't work. Strangely enough, Quick Settings doesn't work for me. Anyone encounter that?