I am addicted to flashing new ROMs, but the downfall of do this all the time is having to setup all my apps again every time.
Is there an advantage to having your apps on your SDcard?
Will it make setup faster?
Is it stable? I hate titanium backup, because things aren't necessarily stable...
I am fine with having to reinstall the apps either thru the new market auto download, or appbrain. I just want my info to remain intact once that app is reinstalled.
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Question, how does backing up Apps with programs like Astro and TI or whatever work? Does it just keep you from having to re-download them from the market when you do a full wipe and flash a ROM? If so, does it restore their market link so that they are updateable? Or do they just do app data?
Sorry, I'm confused. I don't normally have much app data, so I just re-download all my apps each time, and was wondering if I was 'doing it wrong'.
And which program is recommended for backups?
I recommend Titanium Backup, but with the caveat that you should do some research to see how it works. It will back up apps, user settings, and even system settings - but that doesn't mean you can just restore them willy-nilly. For instance, if you backup your apps and app settings, then flash a new ROM, then restore those apps and settings, there may be conflicts between the new ROM and the old programs. It's really more of a just-in-case way to back things up. People have also reported that MyBackup works well. I use TI myself.
In fact, please read this article by flipz (he developed the Fresh ROMs).
All it does is basically takes a snapshot of your system. It copies app files and settings databases. Later, you can restore the apps and data (and even things like account settings and scenes if you know what you're looking for) and be back where you were, as long as things work correctly. There are batch operations, but it all still takes a while to be safe and know that you're not restoring things that will break your system.
It's good, but I recommend a complete nandroid backup (ClockworkMod or Amon RA) if you're not jumping around between ROMs. That's really a better "everything" backup method.
Hope that helps.
Dear All
Having a rooted Desire with Froyo and Apps2SD+, i needed to migrate to a bigger 16 GB card. In that (failed) effort I decided to remove all apps and then restore them.
I backed them up via MybAckup Pro and Titanium Backup. Then, after reboot, no backups were detected by TB. I even wrote to the support but no answer. I had to revert to MyBackup Pro which apparently had a mind of its own regarding which apps to restore. Now Google Maps is missing on my phone and neither will it install. Also, com.gapps are closing on me every minute.
I have decided to do a factory reset but it'd be nice if a few questions are answered first:
1) I understand that NANDROID is the best way to back up; however, it doesn't provide me a way to restore apps one by one or in batches. Any solutions?
2) When I do a factory reset, will I end up with a clean phone with root and my current custom ROM, or the phone as it came from Orange?
3) Is there a way to install Google Maps and to remove the gapps errors without factory reset?
4) If I restore from NANDROID after factory reset, will all the errors/instability come back as well?
Thanks
1) Nandroid does an image of your custom phone, like for example Norton Ghost would do. Its like saving the setup/state of the phone at the time you do the backup.
2) A factory reset deletes all user data. You end with your current ROM as it was a clean install, it will not change the ROM you're using. If you're using a custom ROM you will still be with that custom ROM.
3) Can't Google Maps be downloaded from Market? Also you can try to extract the .apk from a ROM and copy it to yours via adb for example. As for the errors I dont really know if they're because data corruption and a reset will fix them or its the apk that isnt working as intended.
4) As I said earlier, doing a Nandroid is doing an image of the current state of the phone. If you do a Nandroid of a phone that has errors and you restore it, the errors wont disapear.
If you want to have a backup of the list of apps you already have you can use AppBrain. Its a little app that syncs your list of apps from the phone into a google account so when you do a full wipe you have only to install that app again and sync with the saved google list of apps. It wont save the data of the aplications but it will save the list of the ones you've installed.
Azureus: That is a most helpful reply, I sincerely appreciate it.
Google maps is not appearing in the market. I tried to sideload it and it still doesn't install. Thanks for the GREAT AppBrain trick.
I would appreciate if you could answer:
1) Which is the best, most stable custom ROM to use with official Froyo+Sense, Apps2SD+ ? I have doubts about stability of current ROM.
2) Which app can enable me to back up apps and then restore them one by one, given that Titanium Backup is not working for me somehow?
1) I personally use OpenDesire and its a non Sense UI ROM, so I dont really know what Sense UI ROM is the best. I've tryed several Sense UI ROMs and two that gave me a good feeling where LeeDrOiD Mod and the official Sense ROM of OpenDesire Team.
2) I've tryed several apps for data backups and the one that I liked most was Titanium Backup... May I ask why isnt working for you? I've tested both the free and donate version and they seem to work pretty well...
Thanks. Will try Leedroid now.
As for titanium, or backs up everything all right but when I try to restore it shows nothing. Don't know why is that
Titanium Backup saves the backups by default in a folder as the same name as the app in your SD. Have you tried deleting all the folder and doing backups again to see if the restore works? You can also go to settings and change the default folder in which it saves the backup to see if its a problem with de folder/SD or its the app.
I've had my phone rooted for ages, deleted bloat, and about 260mb free. I did the Link2sd but this was after a few apps had updated. I've installed/deinstalled loads of apps over time but now find myself with less than 90mb free, all bloat gone, 3 emus installed, Rage of Bahamut, whatsapp, Go Launcher,Sms,Contacts. That's it. Is there an app to system clean internal memory? I use Titanium Backup Pro to back up my important bits. I've flashed firmware before to gain root after ota updates, so have a rough idea of what im doing I think lol. Just started to learn the android SDK tools and adb.
My big question. Can I backup using Tbpro: all data profiles and apps I want to keep. Flash phone (starting from beginning again as as a new phone), root delete bloat, link2sd, reinstall backups, and be good to go?
Or is there an easier way?
Also, I've never flashed new roms/kernels as I don't understand everything yet.
I only use my phone for calls,text,email,emus,few games and that's about it. Is there a Rom/kernel I could flash, to make it more streamlined for what I use it for?
Sorry for the long post and probably asking Qs you've all heard before, but im just starting to get into phone/app developing and thought, who better to ask than the guys in the know, XDA.
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I've had my phone rooted for ages, deleted bloat, and about 260mb free. I did the Link2sd but this was after a few apps had updated. I've installed/deinstalled loads of apps over time but now find myself with less than 90mb free, all bloat gone, 3 emus installed, Rage of Bahamut, whatsapp, Go Launcher,Sms,Contacts. That's it. Is there an app to system clean internal memory? I use Titanium Backup Pro to back up my important bits. I've flashed firmware before to gain root after ota updates, so have a rough idea of what im doing I think lol. Just started to learn the android SDK tools and adb.
My big question. Can I backup using Tbpro: all data profiles and apps I want to keep. Flash phone (starting from beginning again as as a new phone), root delete bloat, link2sd, reinstall backups, and be good to go?
Or is there an easier way?
Also, I've never flashed new roms/kernels as I don't understand everything yet.
I only use my phone for calls,text,email,emus,few games and that's about it. Is there a Rom/kernel I could flash, to make it more streamlined for what I use it for?
Sorry for the long post and probably asking Qs you've all heard before, but im just starting to get into phone/app developing and thought, who better to ask than the guys in the know, XDA.
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Link2SD has options to clear the dalvik cache and normal cache, also ROMwise if you have an r800x (CDMA) you can try Hogwart's COLA rom....both the free version and pro versions of TB can backup apps and their data, which I have used multiple times for my phone. Sometime qhen I've cleared the caches, I've gained up to 120 MBs of free space, which is really nice.
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Hello everyone,
I have been rooting for a long time since I had a G1. I never understood clearly how to transfer apps without the need to manually install them. Does creating a partition in the SD card to ext3 or ext4 have some factor to it? I would simply follow directions but didn't understand the process. Whenever I installed a new ROM, sometimes all of the apps would be install automatically and some ROMS would require me to install them manually. I also got Titaniumbackup Pro also. Is that still a good app to use to back up these days? Is there a popular app to back up text messaging as well or does many of the
Lately, I have been trying to find a good rom to use after many crashes of Andromadus V13. I am using the latest Anrdomadus Mimicry now and its great. Though, I realized that I didn't transfer any of my apps. As I was rooting a few ROMS previous to it, some would install a majority of the apps and others would require me to install them myself. Im curious of why this is so.
the auto restore is a function of the market, I don't like this method and choose no when I sign in (don't like wasting time and slowing things down cause of all the data over network or wifi
titanium back is my personal favorite way to restore apps on a new rom, there are other apps that will do this (romtollbox etc) tb will do texts but I have had issues with it
I use sms backup + for that and connect it to my google account
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Apps are tied to your Google Play account and normally get automatically re-installed after you start your phone back up after a new ROM. Except, sometimes installing your ROM gives your phone a new "name" and Google Play doesn't know that it's the same phone (even though it's on the same account). So, if you go to Google Play on your computer, you would have more than one choice of phones to download apps to - your old phone name and your new phone name. And I've also had the occasional app out of many that just doesn't re-install for some reason.
Two words : Titanium Backup (though mainly only useful if you can restore your old rom, run a backup, then flash the new rom back).
While google can half-ass restore your downloads (settings may not always be intact), Titanium Backup will actually restore all your backed up apps along with their full settings/etc. It can also restore your rom's Android ID so that restored apps don't conflict.
But yea since you already have it, you should know least that much. Personally I have not found anything better than 4EXT Recovery and Titanium Backup Pro when it comes to backing up and restoring data.
ps: it can backup your SMS/Call Logs/Wifi Access points, etc to XML files on your SD card which can be re-imported later, just in case the SMS/Etc backups performed are not compatible with your new rom's apps.
Hello friends,
I'm kinda still new to the whole custom rom world and have a question. I really like flashing and testing new roms but the one thing I hate is having to download all the apps again from the play store, even though it syncs up and starts automatically downloading all of them it's way too time consuming and not to mention uses more data. I was going to see if you guys could recommend a good backup app that would back all my apps and their data up to my SD card so after flashing a new app I could just install the one backup app then use it to restore the apps/data/sms etc. from my SD card. I see several in the play store such as titanium but was wanted to get a few opinions from folks that have more experience. I'd prefer free but would not mind paying a few bucks ..say $3-5 for a good well rounded app.
Thanks and have a great day!
-Neal
Titanium is the overall best/most features IMO. Backup/Restore, Uninstall, Freeze apps, etc... I've used it for a long time, and I really like it.
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Titanium is the overall best/most features IMO. Backup/Restore, Uninstall, Freeze apps, etc... I've used it for a long time, and I really like it.
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Thanks, I give it a try...I noticed that it has the option to backup app+system. I have a followup question on this regarding backing up the "system info". If I was on rom sokp version 1.5 and made my backups that included the system file and then the sokp team released another version that had bug fixes in it ..lets say V1.7 and I installed it and then did a restore...would restoring the system contents onto the new rom change it back to what I had and end up breaking things that were fixed. Hope this makes since. Lets say bluetooth was broke on my current rom that I've made apps+system backups and then I install V1.7 which fixes the bluetooth...would me restoring the system folder break bluetooth again and whatever else they've fixed. Also, what if I want to kick around another rom...lets say carbon ...would restoring my backups cause it issues.
Thanks guys!
You can only restore system data to the same or updated versions of a ROM. In most cases, its best to start from scratch with things such as your settings. (Contacts/calendar data should restore ok regardless)
Thanks DOC!!