[Q] Locate Phone Apps - turn on data connx - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I've been looking at a few of these 'locate' apps, including Seek Droid, and also the HTC Sense app (with the new HD Rom).
It seems each of these needs the phone to have an active data connection to be able to locate the phone, and do the other features, such as lock / send message / ring.
I have a limited data account so have a toggle for on/off data connection, which I leave off by default.
As such, if I loose my phone, it will 99% likely have the data connection toggle 'off'. And therefore these locate apps won't work.
Does anyone know of
a) a locate app which will turn on data connection?
b) a locate app which doesn't need data connection and can just work with network reception
c) a method of remotely turning ON the data connection (ie turning the toggle from Off to On) -- on this note, i've seen app 'Tasker' which looks like it can do this, but it is extremely expensive...)
Thanks in advance
Rob

No and to be honest it is hard to locate your device and do things like you said without a data connection. Just use something like Where's My Droid which uses text and gps to locate your phone. It isn't exactly what your looking for but it is a nice compromise. Just use the security for your phone to be safe. How much data have you got for your phone?

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how to disable data connection

How I disallow any application to connect to the internet in HD?
Just to make sure not charged.
no data from modaco
is that just for grps? I am using 3g. was wondering whether that will work or not.
use HD tweak
there's is an option to disable data connection, for people who are on vacation
I personally find that HD Tweak doesn't always work for all roms, and if you try to connect t to wifi using certain apps, GPRS is still used.
Use No Data and toggle off connection so only wifi is avilable for phone to use, therefore no data connection. If you want to use data connection at any time, toggle it back on. Simple, yet effective
Well guys I tried installed nodata.cab and did a reboot.
But it still activates my 3G or if available HSPDA connection.
Am I missing somthing?
But on the other hand, the on of switch of your data connection should do just that.....stay off. Whats the use of an off switch if it self activates all the time. Imagine all your light coming on at home when it gets dark!
m.dekoning9 said:
Well guys I tried installed nodata.cab and did a reboot.
But it still activates my 3G or if available HSPDA connection.
Am I missing somthing?
But on the other hand, the on of switch of your data connection should do just that.....stay off. Whats the use of an off switch if it self activates all the time. Imagine all your light coming on at home when it gets dark!
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Have you toggled it off in the app?, i.e. Internet & WAP
I have HD Tweak installed but none of the settings used, but I find that when using the 3G internet, if I press the end call key (bottom right) once, it ends internet connection for me. If I hold the end key down its set to keypad lock.
no data doesn't work at all for 3g hspda connection. That is a dangerous application name I would say.

Anyone can answer about data connection?

When I read the HTC Desire user manual, it said that I need to turn on the "Data Connection" setting to have internet connection.
Well, this is understandable ... but, does it has automatic connection on demand?
On Windows Mobile, I dont have to specifically turn on data connection. Whenever an app is trying to reach the internet, it will turn on the data connection automatically.
And of course, it will turn-off the data connection automatically as well, when there is no internet network activity.
Does this also the same in Android?
It should turn on automaticly when you try to use online services...
But you can turn it on in Wireless & Network
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
By default MENU -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network was off on my device, meaning it would not connect to internet via 3G (I could still make/receive calls). However, I chose to use WiFi for set-up when I first started the phone, so maybe that's why.
Anyway, I guess that is the setting they are talking about.
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
Zappza said:
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
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gogol said:
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
pantera70 said:
NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
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I do remember the old days of the HTC Hero which had the option of background data usage. I think that was more to do with the version of Android than anything else. I recently had the Nexus One and on the new 2.1 version of Android, you can either switch data on or off, no automated connections on data usage.
When the phone is sleeping (screen off) nearly everything is powered down anyway, even if the data connection is 'on'. Apps will wake the device (an power up radios as required) to do their updates when they need to.
gogol said:
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
Ok then
I think it has different meaning compared to the Windows Mobile.
In the COMM MANAGER, there is "Data Connection" toggle which normally is OFF. And this does not mean that the device cannot use 3G data connection.
While on Android, its data connection toggle setting means to enable or disable 3G data connection completely.
I think that is the difference, if we look from Windows Mobile point of view.
Thanks.
Zappza said:
The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
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[Q] Data Connection

I have a T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2. The data connection seems to turn on by itself. I am traveling to a foreign country soon and I don't want to get a HUGE bill. I went to T-Mobile and they didn't know what to do. I re-setted the phone and I am running the new windows mobile. Does anyone know what to do???
Use this program. Very easy and simple. It allows you to disable your data connection completely.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Yes, Modaco NoData works great. It allows the use of WiFi but completely shuts off the cellular data connection.
Sense connects to the internet all the time to refresh the weather data and other info. You should definitely setup a way to turn off the data connection. I learned this lesson on my old Tilt while traveling in Japan. I accidentally launched Internet Explorer while the phone was in my pocket, and it cost a couple dollars just to load my browser homepage.
I just want to make sure... does MoDaCo NoData COMPLETELY shut off all data use PERMANENTLY on my T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (assuming I have set it up to have all the connections disabled)?
Doesn't matter if, say, the "weather" app, is trying to update/force a connection? Will it still stay off?
The only way to allow the data connection to come back would be to MANUALLY go into the MoDaCo NoData app and enable the connections again, correct?
Thanks for the answer/confirmation... I guess I just really need it spelled out for me.
awillquik said:
I just want to make sure... does MoDaCo NoData COMPLETELY shut off all data use PERMANENTLY on my T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (assuming I have set it up to have all the connections disabled)?
Doesn't matter if, say, the "weather" app, is trying to update/force a connection? Will it still stay off?
The only way to allow the data connection to come back would be to MANUALLY go into the MoDaCo NoData app and enable the connections again, correct?
Thanks for the answer/confirmation... I guess I just really need it spelled out for me.
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That's correct, the data connection will stay off until you toggle it back on again in NoData. No other apps can force it back on.
When you first toggle the data connection off in NoData, you will need to soft reset (power off then on again) before the data connection is off. But it will stay off until toggle back on (no soft reset needed to turn data back on, from what I recall).
redpoint73 said:
That's correct, the data connection will stay off until you toggle it back on again in NoData. No other apps can force it back on.
When you first toggle the data connection off in NoData, you will need to soft reset (power off then on again) before the data connection is off. But it will stay off until toggle back on (no soft reset needed to turn data back on, from what I recall).
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Thank you very much. That is exactly what I needed to hear.
One other question now: Say I had my HTC Touch Pro 2 without a SIM card in it. I install the NoData Cab before I put in my SIM card. When I put in my SIM card, is there anything that will force the data connection to come on? Or will I be able to just plug and play without the worry of the data connection ever coming on?
I understand that not everyone does this, but I'm just wondering if it will work in the way I would like it to.
^ Anyone know, or have an idea?
You could try it yourself I think that it's possible, but maybe only when you put a simcard in from a differenct carrier. You can disable it faster true nodata then it can enable by itself.

[Q] Concerns about data roaming

I hope I'm posting this in the proper category.
Namely, I'll be leaving my home country very soon and travel abroad and I will most certainly need to occasionally do SSH connection to my server over 3G, which leads me to data roaming. Now, data roaming at my carrier is super expensive, so I was wondering if there is a way to completely disable data while in roaming, but still be able to connect to 3G and EDGE when I explicitly tell the phone to do so (eg. for SSHing somewhere or checking in on Foursquare, refreshing Twitter timeline, etc).
I saw that there's an option to uncheck Data Roaming in Wireless & Network settings, but I would say that will completely turn off all data connections and NOT allow me to manually and explicitly initiate data connections. Is that true? Is there a way to make it connect to 3G only when I explicitly tell it to while remaining disconnected otherwise?
Allow all phone data settings on. Download APNdroid or similar (APN on off widget) from the market. Open app and set any preferences, then add widget to home screen. Activate by tapping on off on (or something like that). Green on, red off.
All it does is rename the APN settings so it "fails" to connect.
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petarpetrovic said:
I hope I'm posting this in the proper category.
I saw that there's an option to uncheck Data Roaming in Wireless & Network settings, but I would say that will completely turn off all data connections and NOT allow me to manually and explicitly initiate data connections. Is that true? Is there a way to make it connect to 3G only when I explicitly tell it to while remaining disconnected otherwise?
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Your quite correct in that it will stop data connections, but why not turn it back on when you want to connect?, the other possibly cheaper option would be to, as long as your phone is not networked locked, buy a local PAYG sim with data and use that in your phone when you want to use 3G
Buying local sim would be wise option....
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A local prepaid SIM is a good idea, far cheaper than using data roaming.
Additionally, to avoid background data usage, you might want to install Droidwall and allow only the SSH app to connect to the internet.
ghostofcain said:
Your quite correct in that it will stop data connections, but why not turn it back on when you want to connect?
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Because I want only that one application to use the data connection when I want it to, without all other apps opening their own connections for sync and other stuff, since I have a lot of apps and accounts that sync in certain periods of time (this is an Android device, after all ).
frosty_ice said:
Additionally, to avoid background data usage, you might want to install Droidwall and allow only the SSH app to connect to the internet.
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Exactly what I needed! Many thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it out!

Data usage

My data usage has been rising. the day my data renewed, it instantly went up to 10 mb of data used in an hour.
If you go to Settings > Data Usage, you can see which applications use data on your phone. As the notice says, what is shown on the phone is the data measured by your phone, and your mobile provider may account for data usage differently. Still, it may help you pin point which apps consume most of your data. You then may want to delete the apps in question if you don't use them a lot, find replacement apps, or limit data usage for these apps to WiFi only -- to access this capability, an additionnal app will be needed; try searching the Play Store for this kind of tool.
I had the same issue but found the my wifi setting was to turn off in sleep mode, you can adjust this in your settings, it helped to change it to never turn off. Also, in the hidden wifi menu, make sure your wifi is set to on, you can access this by going to your keypad in the phone and typing *#0011#. Staying in wifi as much as possible is great, also, use your data toggle.
Alexandre-P said:
If you go to Settings > Data Usage, you can see which applications use data on your phone. As the notice says, what is shown on the phone is the data measured by your phone, and your mobile provider may account for data usage differently. Still, it may help you pin point which apps consume most of your data. You then may want to delete the apps in question if you don't use them a lot, find replacement apps, or limit data usage for these apps to WiFi only -- to access this capability, an additionnal app will be needed; try searching the Play Store for this kind of tool.
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While looking at the list of apps using the data, you can tap on the ones you don't want running data in background. A detail menu comes up, at the bottom there is a check box to disable background processes on mobile network.
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