[Q] Possible Loss of S-OFF? - myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can you lose S-OFF by flashing a NEW RECOVERY .img?

No. You lose S-OFF by flashing a new HBOOT.

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[Q] I understand everything except the point of the eng hboot.

From my current understanding if I wish to flash individual pieces of a ROM such as a new radio or stock recovery (for warranty purposes) I need the eng hboot for fastboot? And returning to the original hboot is as simple as flashing a stock RUU, after setting superCID and permanent S-Off with gfree of course?

[Q] Easy Eng S-Off with Cyanogen Mod?

Hi everyone.
I have a DHD with Radio S-Off Clockwork Recovery an latest stable CM installed.
Now I want to flash another Radio and need Eng S-Off.
Is it save to use the Easy Eng S-Off Tool with CM?
What is the easiest way to get a new Radio?

[Q] Can I use any RUU for any DHD?

What does the RUU replace exactly?
Can I brick my phone by flashing the wrong RUU?
Why do people downgrade instead of flashing an older RUU?
The RUU replaces everything. Radio, bootloader, ROM, recovery. So you'll loose root and ENG S-OFF but you'll keep radio S-OFF.
You cant flash an older RUU if you don't have S-OFF.
And no, it doesn't matter which RUU you flash.
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Flussen said:
The RUU replaces everything. Radio, bootloader, ROM, recovery. So you'll loose root and ENG S-OFF but you'll keep radio S-OFF.
You cant flash an older RUU if you don't have S-OFF.
And no, it doesn't matter which RUU you flash.
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is the radio S-OFF flag hidden that deep? even an RUU wont reset it!
so basically if I have radio S-OFF I can flash any RUU I like. that's cool
btw what's ENG again? and what's the different between ENG S-OFF (or ON) and radio S-OFF (or ON)?
my understanding is that if you have radio S-OFF then everything is S-OFF and you can mess with the device as bad as you like
the way i understand, you could say Eng S-OFF is a "security off" placed after bootloader and Radio S-OFF is a "security off" placed before it, so even a normal bootloader see it as a S-OFF... please, someone correct me if i'm wrong.
Radio S-OFF isn't THAT deep, it's just stay in a place not touched by flashing officlal RUU.
So when you are Radio S-OFF and flash a RUU, bootloader and everything beyond it is replaced; you keep with a Radio S-OFF (cause it stays before bootloader), but lose Eng and Root (cause it stays after bootloader).
you can't flash a older RUU without Radio S-OFF and to achieve it, you need eng s-off and for that you need root. So, if you have a 1.7xxxxxx RUU, you can't simple flash a older RUU...
i hope it could be understood, my english is not quite good when i need so much adverbs, past sentences and whatever more! =o)
Edit: you should see this thread, helps a lot in beginning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248

[Q] S-off

Do i need to S-off my device, before I install any customer ROM or I can go ahead with the s-on ?
Hi,
You don't need s-off to flash custom ROMs. However with s-on you can only flash ROMs made for stock hboot. In order to flash ROMs for other hboot, you need to be s-off, so you can flash different hboots.
Personally I'd s-off my desire. The choice is yours.

[Q] deleted sms recovery on 2.3.5 s-on unrooted

hi,
all i want is only to recover my deleted sms messages.
My cellular is desire hd 2.3.5 unrooted s-off with htc sense 3.0
1. do I need to root it?
2. if I do, am i not loosing the needed data?
3. can an s-on be changed to s-off without flashing new rom? how?
4. since aahk is dead, is there any alternative one step tool?
Thanks folks
oded:
What are you trying to do? Recover SMSs? I don't think rooting will help you do that. You need to have made a backup. Anyway, to root, since you are S-Off, you just need to flash a recovery and then flash either ROM or root from recovery.
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bananagranola said:
What are you trying to do? Recover SMSs? I don't think rooting will help you do that. You need to have made a backup. Anyway, to root, since you are S-Off, you just need to flash a recovery and then flash either ROM or root from recovery.
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sorry i mistyped. I have s-on, of course.
how do i turn it into s-off?
Thanks
oded_s said:
sorry i mistyped. I have s-on, of course.
how do i turn it into s-off?
Thanks
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You don't need S-Off to root. But root won't help you recover your SMSs anyway unless you have a backup.

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