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Question about root and titanium back up

I think i have properly rooted my device (incredible) but I am definitly a noob. I have rooted and have loaded the unresolved2 flash tool. for some reason I am having trouble getting titanium to find my apps. I am wondering if I am properly rooted. The reason why I think this is because when I use connectbot "whoami" comes up as not found under su - local. Can anyone help?

when you say titanium cant find your apps what is it doing thats giving you that sign? when you first installed it on your phone did you click problems and let it download the new busybox for it?

Try clicking on the problems tab and install that busybox that's what mine did and now i have 0 problems(knock on wood)
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also, make sure you are not plugged in to USB when trying to use Titanium back up. I was plugged in at first and it wasnt working correctly until I unplugged and restarted Titanium over again.

ezy1022 said:
when you say titanium cant find your apps what is it doing thats giving you that sign? when you first installed it on your phone did you click problems and let it download the new busybox for it?
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It backs up way to quick from what Ive heard. Also in Batch Backup/Restore it shows '0' under backup all user apps. I did the busybox at the begining at this is where Im at. I also have rebooted and made sure I wasnt connected. I appreciate the help. Do you have any other suggestions?

craigmack said:
It backs up way to quick from what Ive heard. Also in Batch Backup/Restore it shows '0' under backup all user apps. I did the busybox at the begining at this is where Im at. I also have rebooted and made sure I wasnt connected. I appreciate the help. Do you have any other suggestions?
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ok im not really sure but i could think of a few things for you to check,
1. if you hit menu and then hit filters do you have both "all" selections checked?
2. when you click on backup/restore tab do you see your list of apps, i know this is really basic i am just trying to cover everything
3. on the overview tab i see;
(these first ones might be different depending on if you have the free version or the paid version but the root access one should deff be yes)
root access =>OK (busybox 1.15.3 from app)
hypershell (fast!) => YES
fast/auto app install => YES (using hypershell)
SQlite => YES (sqlite 3.5.9 included)
data directory: /data
external storage: /sdcard (ok)
backup directory: /sdcard/titaniumbackup
is this what you see?
also do you have the superuser app installed, and did you allow titanium backup access when you first installed it?

Mine looks exactly like that. Something I just noticed in super user permissions there was nothing in there for titanium backup.
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[Q] Delete Preinstalled Apps - After Root!

I rooted because I was fed up with the preinstalled Orange bloatware apps as I need the space! I used unrevoked and I have full root access i.e. I have the superuser app and I have been able to access the system partition and even managed to delete apk files from the system apps directory.
However, despite trying all the suggestions i found on these forums and elsewhere; Root Explorer, System App Remover and Titanium backup, no matter how many times I remove the apps in question, within a short time, the phone reboots and the apps are back again!
Please note that I am only trying to remove the stupid games etc which Orange stuff the ROM with not anything significant.
I really dont fancy flashing a new ROM as I cant be bothered setting up my phone again from scratch, so any advice somebody can give would be REALLY apreciated!!

You need to S-Off your phone, not just root if you want to remove your applications, while the phone is booted.
Search a guide here in the Android Developement section.
Alternatively use ADB to remove the files - your phone must be in recovery mode.

Thanks so much!!

Or better yet, just install one of the custom roms with a2sd. If you don't want a modified one, just use rooted froyo with a2sd, this is a good one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789058

david_inuk said:
I rooted because I was fed up with the preinstalled Orange bloatware apps as I need the space! I used unrevoked and I have full root access i.e. I have the superuser app and I have been able to access the system partition and even managed to delete apk files from the system apps directory.
However, despite trying all the suggestions i found on these forums and elsewhere; Root Explorer, System App Remover and Titanium backup, no matter how many times I remove the apps in question, within a short time, the phone reboots and the apps are back again!
Please note that I am only trying to remove the stupid games etc which Orange stuff the ROM with not anything significant.
I really dont fancy flashing a new ROM as I cant be bothered setting up my phone again from scratch, so any advice somebody can give would be REALLY apreciated!!
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If you are S-ON you can delete them with ADB when you are in recovery mode.

You can also delete them through root explorer from the market. It's not free but it takes two minutes to use and you can see what your deleting if you are unsure

I have the same issue here.
Will try the ADB method when get a chance, but Root Explorer won't delete them - you can delete unwanted games etc, but they are still on the apps list the the files will come back after the reboot - tried this already.

kjur said:
I have the same issue here.
Will try the ADB method when get a chance, but Root Explorer won't delete them - you can delete unwanted games etc, but they are still on the apps list the the files will come back after the reboot - tried this already.
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really, what rom? i didnt have any issues with the setup mentioned in my sig

vis-tec said:
really, what rom? i didnt have any issues with the setup mentioned in my sig
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You are S-OFF, so no wonders why you don't have any problems

titanium backup
why not just use titanium backup. its free and a very easy way to uninstall apps.

Again, you need to be s-off to uninstall system apk, which unfortunately all the bloatware is.
Clarification, you need to be s-off to use titanium or root explorer to remove system apk.
veitograf said:
why not just use titanium backup. its free and a very easy way to uninstall apps.
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@vis-tec: It's Orange UK, rooted, but S-ON. ADB method works perfect tough. Tested last night. Also integrated some system apps updates in the ROM via ADB.

titanium backup hasn't work for me either.
only ADB

remember that deleting bloatware does not give you any extra amount of space.
these apps are in \system which is not where apps you download install.
only way of extending you app-space is A2SD+ or DATA2XXX but they tend to slow down the phone
best solution >> S-OFF and ROM designed to run on a custom HBOOT.
u get lots of space, and a super fast rom since dalvik cache stays on NAND

dzumagos said:
remember that deleting bloatware does not give you any extra amount of space.
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it does.
i've had google maps, youtube updates etc in the /data/app and after deleting bloatware and the old versions of gmaps etc. there was enough space in /system/app to move the updates there.
so now on the /data/app is 8-10MB more for my other apps.
also if i'm right the /system partition is used as cache for apps, so there is more space for this.
and it looks way better when you open 'all apps' drawer - the list is much shorter now and there is only the stuff you need

[Q] Safely Remove Backup Assistant?

I'm fairly new to the whole root/S-OFF/custom ROM world.
After flashing cmlusco's Touch of Blue ROM, I realized that it did not include Verizon's Backup Assistant. Makes complete sense to not include it, however, I found myself in a situation where I briefly needed it. No problem - I just flashed the Backup Assistant apk through recovery and was able to successfully use it.
Now I want to get rid of it. What is the recommended method for completely removing Backup Assistant? What is the safest method for removing it?
I appreciate any assistance/advice

Use a program like "Titanium Backup" to uninstall the Verizon app. It's free in the play store. Once downloaded, press:
1) Menu button
2) select Filter
3) then check "All apps" under filter status
4) check "User" under filter type
5) click Apply then find and uninstall the Verizon app.
Titanium Backup is very useful if you want to uninstall System apps or regular apps since it is a root app. Just be careful what you uninstall cuz you can uninstall virtually anything (widgets, apps, apk's) using this app.

Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.

cmlusco said:
Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.
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It's much faster/easier to just uninstall it with TB

cmlusco said:
Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.
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This is what I ended up doing - thanks for the info.
I was originally going to use Titanium to accomplish this, but it gave a warning that important system files could also be deleted. Given that I've backed everything up, I assume that there wouldn't be any real issues even if Titanium did delete something critical.
Which brings up another question: is Titanium doing the same thing as manually deleting the 4 files listed above? I suppose I could test this by reinstalling Backup Assistant, using Titanium to uninstall, and looking to see what is left...

S2theSea said:
This is what I ended up doing - thanks for the info.
I was originally going to use Titanium to accomplish this, but it gave a warning that important system files could also be deleted. Given that I've backed everything up, I assume that there wouldn't be any real issues even if Titanium did delete something critical.
Which brings up another question: is Titanium doing the same thing as manually deleting the 4 files listed above? I suppose I could test this by reinstalling Backup Assistant, using Titanium to uninstall, and looking to see what is left...
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Basicly yes its doing the same thing just automating it for you. If you delete with titanium the files get deleted, if you freeze with titanium the files are either renamed or moved.

cmlusco said:
Basicly yes its doing the same thing just automating it for you. If you delete with titanium the files get deleted, if you freeze with titanium the files are either renamed or moved.
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More good info - thanks again. I appreciate the patience and willingness of the community to help educate newbs like myself.
BTW, excellent work on the Touch of Blue ROM - it's been running nearly perfect for me after ~2 weeks.

S2theSea said:
More good info - thanks again. I appreciate the patience and willingness of the community to help educate newbs like myself.
BTW, excellent work on the Touch of Blue ROM - it's been running nearly perfect for me after ~2 weeks.
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Thank you, glad you like it.

Titanium Backup Stuck Restoring Any App

Couldn't find much on this issue...
Just installed the ROM in my sig. I was trying to restore an app for testing without data. I copied the Titanium Backup folder from my SGSII. YouTube wouldn't restore so I tried another single app and Titanium Backup gets stuck on Restoring App. I tried with and without data and it fails for any app I try. Rebooted, no go. Unknown Sources is checked. I have never seen this across all my android devices. ANY IDEAS MAY VERY WELL PREVENT ME FROM THROWING SOMETHING. Thanks and that it's all.
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So after some troubleshooting I tried setting the App Processing Mode to "AUTO, Indirect." This didn't work. If I use "INTERACTIVE," it works. I just have to restore them one-by-one.

echardcore said:
Couldn't find much on this issue...
Just installed the ROM in my sig. I was trying to restore an app for testing without data. I copied the Titanium Backup folder from my SGSII. YouTube wouldn't restore so I tried another single app and Titanium Backup gets stuck on Restoring App. I tried with and without data and it fails for any app I try. Rebooted, no go. Unknown Sources is checked. I have never seen this across all my android devices. ANY IDEAS MAY VERY WELL PREVENT ME FROM THROWING SOMETHING. Thanks and that it's all.
EDIT:
So after some troubleshooting I tried setting the App Processing Mode to "AUTO, Indirect." This didn't work. If I use "INTERACTIVE," it works. I just have to restore them one-by-one.
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I seem to have the same problem but cannot find the "App Processing Mode" in the preferences. Where exactly is it? I use the free version.

zurpher said:
I seem to have the same problem but cannot find the "App Processing Mode" in the preferences. Where exactly is it? I use the free version.
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Pretty sure paid version only. I highly recommend it.

I'm stuck for now with the free version. Cannot get my contacts working.
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echardcore said:
Pretty sure paid version only. I highly recommend it.
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I have the paid version, and I still cannot find it.

keithabrown said:
I have the paid version, and I still cannot find it.
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I just ran into this, trying to restore my backup of the Chrome system app. It got stuck forever. You have to go MENU -> Preferences, scroll all the way down to find "Troubleshooting Settings" -> App Processing Mode -> and then pick "AUTO, Indirect" or "INTERACTIVE".
For me "AUTO, Indirect" is what worked.

Backup/Restore Apps using Titanium
Most custom ROMs will require you to do a wipe data/factory reset, which will erase all of your settings and apps. By using apps like Titanium backup app, you can easily backup and restore your apps. Even better, if you get a new Android phone, you can use this app to transfer all of your current apps with data to your new phone.

Seems to be solvable by updating SU binaries, using the SuperSU app.
Install SuperSu, Run it, it'll ask you to update binaries, accept, restart, then if root is broken go to SuperSu, go to Settings, and choose "Switch Superuser App", restart again - and boom, it should all work fine.

Titanium Backup
When restoring batch files on the titanium back up observe in what part the restoration stop more or less that app have an issue on the files being restored.
Also you should ensure that you still have available internal memory while doing the restore since app restoration on titanium backup directly go to the internal memory.

USB debugging
Try enabling USB debugging. Worked for me.

I have the same thing happening to me. The popup window just says "Restoring App" and the chaser keeps circling. I have the Pro key for TB installed. I have Super installed. I have changed the preferences as suggested in this thread. I think it's a whole lot easier to reflash the entire ROM and redo all your settings and preferences.

check super su setting
you would want to go to super su and then settings and then uncheck unmount separation box then restart then try and restore.... worked for me.

Should be second last from the bottom

djranoia said:
you would want to go to super su and then settings and then uncheck unmount separation box then restart then try and restore.... worked for me.
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Thanks for the tip mate, a few botched flashes and Kinguser installs later and that tip definitely made my day! Titanium Backup worked fine with Kinguser, but for some strange reason it didn't seem to budge with SuperSU. Turns out I had to unckeck that option.

djranoia said:
you would want to go to super su and then settings and then uncheck unmount separation box then restart then try and restore.... worked for me.
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thanks man, after spending a lifetime i tried your tip and worked for me :good::good:

Having trouble restoring both Boost Zone and Visual Voicemail backups. Both preinstalled system apps that I did full TB backups of for their latest versions. Tried all 3 restore options, the SuperSU settings, and also attempted to install a few .apk's I found, to no avail. (got "out of memory/space" error msg on both apk's) Sigh.... Really just need my VVM app back. Not perfect, but convenient.

I'm having problem with titanium bkp. I had backup all my apps with data on 5.1.1 and flashed 6.0.1 rom. Now titanium bkp doesn't detect my bkp.
Tried many things like
copy bkp files to internal,
just made an app bkp and copy my bkp files to that folder etc.
still my TB doesn't detect my old bkp

djranoia said:
you would want to go to super su and then settings and then uncheck unmount separation box then restart then try and restore.... worked for me.
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Don.Adel said:
thanks man, after spending a lifetime i tried your tip and worked for me :good::good:
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This worked for me too after really trying this and that for hours!
Thanks a lot mate!
Uncheck Mount Separation bo in SuperSu and restart your phone. :good:
regards
kithmal11

kithmal11 said:
This worked for me too after really trying this and that for hours!
Thanks a lot mate!
Uncheck Mount Separation bo in SuperSu and restart your phone. :good:
regards
kithmal11
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Didn't work for me tho... did you guys mean uncheck "Mount namespace separation" box??

DrSrijitMC said:
Didn't work for me tho... did you guys mean uncheck "Mount namespace separation" box??
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You did a reboot after changing the setting?

cant uninstall system apps

Guys, I'm rooted with magisk and I want to remove system apps like youtube. I used system app remover for it and it always fails, any idea how to do it?

Try root uninstaller. Always worked with me.

I've always used root uninstaller on all my devices until this one. It says something along the lines of "sorry, root privilege found but cannot mount system r/w " so it will only allow me to disable apps. Root essentials on the other hand won't disable apps but will allow me to uninstall system apps except for Google, which I had to manually delete the folder and apk for.

[email protected] said:
Guys, I'm rooted with magisk and I want to remove system apps like youtube. I used system app remover for it and it always fails, any idea how to do it?
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You can use Titanium Backup to do so, uninstall and reboot to confirm, Just make sure the app is not disabled before you uninstall it.

Funk Wizard said:
You can use Titanium Backup to do so, uninstall and reboot to confirm, Just make sure the app is not disabled before you uninstall it.
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Thanks it really works.
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I had the same problem, too. I tried several apps but the uninstalled ones magical appear again after reboot.
The only thing that worked for me was to install the magisk module " terminal debloater " here on XDA.
Now they are gone.