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Hey guys I have been doing quite a bit of searching through the forums and still have a couple questions about custom roms and rooting. Forgive the noobness but the droid incredible is my first android device and I only recently got it.
1. My first question is what is the simplest way (rom + root I assume) to get a stock version of android on my incredible? Also what rom would you recommend (I have seen a pretty big list but know nothing about them)?
2. What is the difference, if any, between a kernel and a rom? Ive seen both words used a lot and have seen kernels that are stock and roms that are as well. Which would I use between the two?
I know these questions may be dumb but I have been searching for a couple days and have gone through hundreds of threads trying to find the definitive answer (there were some benefits though, I use launcher pro and the droid x's keyboard now) any help would be appreciated.
1. You are right in assuming that the quickest (and only) way to get a stock version of Android on your phone is to root your phone and install a custom recovery that will allow you to flash a rom. It is not really possible for me to recommend a rom because rom's are all about personal preference and my preference may be different from yours. That being said, if you are interested in stock Android, check out Cyanogenmod. The biggest thing right now is that for the Incredible, Cyanogenmod is the only true stock Android that is compiled from AOSP (Android Open Source Project) however it is still in its early stages for our device, so it's still buggy. The other roms are modified versions of our stock sense rom, so some of the roms are modified to have the bulkier parts of of the Sense UI removed, but it is still a Sense rom.
2. I'm not going to profess to be extremely in the know about kernels, but a kernel is the go-between for the hardware and the os/applications. If you want to learn more about kernels, you can read the wikipedia page about kernels found here. Basically what you need to know is that the rom is the operating system, so if you wanted to change the OS such as from Sense to Vanilla Android, you would flash a rom. If you wanted to change the way the system runs, such as if you want your processor to be overclocked or undervolted, you would flash a kernel.
Hope this helps.
That answered everything! Thanks for the reply and I will keep checking the forums for stock roms that seem stable!
Hi all, i have been searching for a while and cant seem to find my answer so hopefully someone can help. I have rescently rooted my HTC Desire and installed one of the roms off here (Psychosis 5.0) it has installed fine except i no longer have the android market on my phone, i am running 2.1 0.83. Can someone please tell me how to get it back?
Many thanks.
You can try to flash a stand alone new market or Gapps, but I think it's better to just flash a up to date rom.
Since Psychosis 5.0 is based of a old Leedroid rom I would suggest you install the newest Leedroid or find something else you like.
Ah ok pal, thanks for the help i will find a different rom
Any advice as to what rom to flash?
Depends on what you want, look around in development and this thread. See if anything there strikes your interest.
If you have no idea and what to stay as close to stock as possible but with the benefits of custom roms I would suggest to install Leedroid
If wanna have everything working and want to stay as close as to stock as said before than Leedroids ROM is the one for you.
If you like speed and no snick snack and no Sense, I want to suggest DeFrost 6.1a. See the rest Non-Sense ROM too.
If you like extra snick snack and the new Sense, try one of the DHD or Z ported ROM. I am currently using InsertCoin 1.8f.
If you are and advance user and like to experiment things, try one of the experimental Gingerbread (2.3) ROMs.
If you like to have something iPhone alike, try one of the MIUI.
Note:
For newbies, please stay away first from any Data2SD and Data2Whatever or any Gingerbread ROMs at the moment.
Stick with App2SD, learn more first!
I don't know how to get market back, but I also recommend Leedroid, AuraxTSense, or ReflexTSense. All good ROM's, in my opinion...
I am interested in upgrading Mrs Dutchship's Green-eyed Defy as it has begun to occasionally misbehave. It has remained on the original UK 2.1 ROM since new around 13 months ago and needs a refresh.
The main criteria for a new ROM (in order of importance):
1. Stable / Reliable
2. Familiar (Moto style ROM with that Blur rubbish (although the Social Networking stuff is not used))
3. Needs Swype (is it possible to add this to any ROM?)
4. Not rubbish battery life (undervoltable would be great)
5. Easy install with no ongoing support required (for me)
I think the options are to either factory reset the current ROM, update it to a factory 2.2 ROM, to a dejunked Motorola 2.2 ROM (if they exist), or try a wholly custom ROM (CM7, despite looking at first glance to not be 100% reliable?)
If anybody could recommend any of these it'd be most helpful. Based on my experience with a Desire HD I'd go for a tidied up / improved stock ROM if possible, but would be happy to hear other suggestions.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for Yet another What ROM thread!
Dutchship said:
I am interested in upgrading Mrs Dutchship's Green-eyed Defy as it has begun to occasionally misbehave. It has remained on the original UK 2.1 ROM since new around 13 months ago and needs a refresh.
The main criteria for a new ROM (in order of importance):
1. Stable / Reliable
2. Familiar (Moto style ROM with that Blur rubbish (although the Social Networking stuff is not used))
3. Needs Swype (is it possible to add this to any ROM?)
4. Not rubbish battery life (undervoltable would be great)
5. Easy install with no ongoing support required (for me)
I think the options are to either factory reset the current ROM, update it to a factory 2.2 ROM, to a dejunked Motorola 2.2 ROM (if they exist), or try a wholly custom ROM (CM7, despite looking at first glance to not be 100% reliable?)
If anybody could recommend any of these it'd be most helpful. Based on my experience with a Desire HD I'd go for a tidied up / improved stock ROM if possible, but would be happy to hear other suggestions.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for Yet another What ROM thread!
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There are a few options available too you really.
1. Just perform the upgrade to the latest 2.2.2 defy froyo rom doing this will keep all the motoblur features.
2. CM7 Is a great aosp rom which is highly customizable i use it on all my handsets light, fast and stable. But no motoblur.
3. You can use a fixed sbf to goto 2.3.6 gingerbread with moto blur, and use the greenbread mod for camera fix, the reason i say use a fixed sbf is so you can downgarde back to 2.2 incase you dont like it, whatever you do, dont flash a full gingerbread sbf as you wont be able to downgrade.
4. Try one of the many custom roms in the dev section but i cannot give you any input on these as i only use cm7.
Dutchship said:
I am interested in upgrading Mrs Dutchship's Green-eyed Defy as it has begun to occasionally misbehave. It has remained on the original UK 2.1 ROM since new around 13 months ago and needs a refresh.
The main criteria for a new ROM (in order of importance):
1. Stable / Reliable
2. Familiar (Moto style ROM with that Blur rubbish (although the Social Networking stuff is not used))
3. Needs Swype (is it possible to add this to any ROM?)
4. Not rubbish battery life (undervoltable would be great)
5. Easy install with no ongoing support required (for me)
I think the options are to either factory reset the current ROM, update it to a factory 2.2 ROM, to a dejunked Motorola 2.2 ROM (if they exist), or try a wholly custom ROM (CM7, despite looking at first glance to not be 100% reliable?)
If anybody could recommend any of these it'd be most helpful. Based on my experience with a Desire HD I'd go for a tidied up / improved stock ROM if possible, but would be happy to hear other suggestions.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for Yet another What ROM thread!
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Try CM 7.1 Stable Version by Quarx. You won't regret it man! and you can download Swype beta version directly from swype.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156855
I USE THIS FOR A WHILE.. ITS STABLE, BETTER BATTERY LIFE, AND BEAUTY SENSE STYLE, MotoGinger Teaser v5.1-deblur (android 2.3.4) (POST#2)
furrabbit.nh said:
There are a few options available too you really.
1. Just perform the upgrade to the latest 2.2.2 defy froyo rom doing this will keep all the motoblur features.
2. CM7 Is a great aosp rom which is highly customizable i use it on all my handsets light, fast and stable. But no motoblur.
3. You can use a fixed sbf to goto 2.3.6 gingerbread with moto blur, and use the greenbread mod for camera fix, the reason i say use a fixed sbf is so you can downgarde back to 2.2 incase you dont like it, whatever you do, dont flash a full gingerbread sbf as you wont be able to downgrade.
4. Try one of the many custom roms in the dev section but i cannot give you any input on these as i only use cm7.
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walter79's ROMs (modified motorola ROM's) are held in high regard here. You can check out a few...I personally don't not know which ones are good, but you can definitely tell by reading around a bit
Man u have been choking ur defy's neck all this time
Get on a custom Rom asap !!
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I'm a new Android user and I'm using Android Revolution HD 9.4.0.
I've been looking through the 'What does your Home Page look like' Thread and I'm interested in trying out other ROMs and have some questions.
1. Is there a poll at XDA that I can't find, that shows how popular certain ROMs are?
2. Is there a general opinion that one ROM is better or more stable than another? (this is my daily phone, so it needs to work reliably)
3. If I install another ROM, can I somehow keep my settings, apps and data, by restoring from a backup, or does that not work?
4. I would like to have 4x5 menu layout on the home screen, which ROM would I need to install to get that?
5. Should I just use ARHD and be patient until Jelly Bean comes out and see what happens then?
welcomehome said:
1. Is there a poll at XDA that I can't find, that shows how popular certain ROMs are?
2. Is there a general opinion that one ROM is better or more stable than another? (this is my daily phone, so it needs to work reliably)
3. If I install another ROM, can I somehow keep my settings, apps and data, by restoring from a backup, or does that not work?
4. I would like to have 4x5 menu layout on the home screen, which ROM would I need to install to get that?
5. Should I just use ARHD and be patient until Jelly Bean comes out and see what happens then?
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1. No polls as far as I know. There are modified stock roms, source built aosp type roms and people all have their preferences. It really comes down to what kind of functions/style/performance you want.
2. Roms built on stock HTC roms tend to have the least problems or issues because they can use original drivers etc.
3. In MOST cases you can restore apps and app data but system settings and data might interfere with roms depending which kernel etc. they have.
4. You can do this with most 3rd party launchers such as Go Launcher Ex, Nova Launcher etc. No need to flash roms to be able to edit home screen layout.
5. You could yes. But if you are thinking of flashing another custom rom anyway, why not try a few of them and see for yourself what you like most. You might be surprised Plus there are Jelly Bean roms already out there.
XDA Roms are solid and stable, i'd say read and compare each roms to suit your liking and go for it! owning a HOX is half the fun until your running one of the custom roms
If you love Customizations then definitely try ViperX ROM, full of customizations
If you want JB ROM try either CM10, AOKP or Paranoid ROM{ tablet mode feature}
or try Domination ROMwith all features of AOKP, CM10 & Paranoid.
Hi guys, I am a BASIC android user with BASIC phone needs. Unfortunately I own a HTC Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and the very crapy HTC Sense 2.1 thats keeps on slowing down the phone and mostly rendering it beyond the point of regular usage.
I want the cleanest possible, fully functioning Android version available, like on Nexus phones. Just a plain, simple, clean and basic Android version. No need for overclocking, Sense crap, MIUI interfaces or other spectaculair may-work-may-not-work-brick-my-phone stuff, just a simple working smartphone, you can call with, send text messages with, Viber, Skype or Whatsapp with. You know, kinda like old people do with the phone
So 2 questions:
1. Which version would you guys recommend as being the cleanest one available on the forum?
2. How on earth do I get there? I have basic/bit advanced knowledge about rooting phones, Kernels, radio versions, etc, but this HTC phone is beyond me. Should I first root it, then CID Unlock/ s-Off it, do I first have to downgrade it to Froyo, etc etc etc. I know the easiest answer is RTFM, or use the search function on this forum first, but with my basic knowledge I cant seem to figure it out with the tons and tons of information thats out there on the forum.
So please, a few pointers, short first-this-then-that guidelines, and I'm sure I will get there.
Have a great weekend, DaMO
First of all, you're in the wrong section.
Second : The best rom without any trouble is this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
If you want more feature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Both are very stable. Very fast. No problem at all.
But I have to say, these time, most of recent roms are pretty reliable.
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
damo666 said:
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
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The deamon allow you to control overclocking, voltage, I/O, governors.
Witch you dont need, if you dont want to play with it.
i.e mimicry's already set to 1000 mhz cpu. You dont need to touch anything if you're satisfied with this cpu speed.
It's hard to find a complete guide for newbes. Back in years, I remember that I had to look at multiple thread to be sure how to root/backup/flash and make sure not to brick.
The major difference between the two (I was using Mimicry myself for the longest time, but I'm currently testing the Flinny Jellybean build) is one is Gingerbread (CM7) and the other is Ice cream sandwich. So if you're find with android OS 2.3, you will for the most part have the most compatibility with the phone's hardware (since all the drivers are avail), and will run better on the phone. But Mimicry will give you the features of ICS (4.0.x), but may lack in some areas like camera capabilities with 3rd party apps such as instagram (which is fixed in the jellybean rom I'm currently using).
But as a "basic" user, I think sticking with gingerbread will do you just fine.
I personally found this guide most useful and very easy to follow. The only problem might be that it needs adb and the respective drivers, but installing it should not be too difficult.
My favourite ROM, when it comes to speed and stability, is the "cm-7.2.0-vision.zip" found here. It might have some extras, but compared to everything else I tried (and I tried a lot), it worked like a charm.
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
damo666 said:
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
fletchb said:
I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I used a mix of guides, basically the procedure was: downgrade to Froyo, unlocked and temporarly rooted (S-Off), got it permanent rooted, and then installed CM 7.2.0
Thats all