I all, I've used this tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
correctly.
Now I want to do an ENG S-OFF too with jkoljo's One click S-OFF. There are risks in doing such a modification?and if something goes wrong there's something I can do?
thanks in advance for the answers
Well, nobody has managed to brick their device while doing ENG S-OFF yet, but it is not 100% safe either. My tool checks many things before continuing with the process itself to make it as safe as possible, but there are still big risks in flashing a bootloader (ENG S-OFF = modified engineering bootloader). If for some reason that bootloader fails to go in properly, for example your device has faulty memory blocks, you will end up with a fancy paper weight. Then you will have to send it to HTC, and it will cost some money to repair. Just follow the instructions carefully, and it should be just fine.
To give some statistics, tens of thousands of people have ENG S-OFF in their phones, and still nobody has bricked his/her device yet.
jkoljo said:
Well, nobody has managed to brick their device while doing ENG S-OFF yet, but it is not 100% safe either. My tool checks many things before continuing with the process itself to make it as safe as possible, but there are still big risks in flashing a bootloader (ENG S-OFF = modified engineering bootloader). If for some reason that bootloader fails to go in properly, for example your device has faulty memory blocks, you will end up with a fancy paper weight. Then you will have to send it to HTC, and it will cost some money to repair. Just follow the instructions carefully, and it should be just fine.
To give some statistics, tens of thousands of people have ENG S-OFF in their phones, and still nobody has bricked his/her device yet.
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thanks for all your work ... I'll donate as soon as I recharge my card
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I was just wondering, is it "VISION PVT SHIP S-" turn OFF when you unlock the phone?
victoria_tsao said:
I was just wondering, is it "VISION PVT SHIP S-" turn OFF when you unlock the phone?
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S-OFF when you have eMMC write access.
ZeroSX said:
S-OFF when you have eMMC write access.
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Thanks for the reply!
one more question, is it mean I have to take apart my G2?
Atm, nobody aside of those lucky enough to have a developer phone has write access to the eMMC, and I personally don't know if there's a hardware hack developed. I'd stay away from taking apart your phone for obvious reasons.
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Atm, nobody aside of those lucky enough to have a developer phone has write access to the eMMC, and I personally don't know if there's a hardware hack developed. I'd stay away from taking apart your phone for obvious reasons.
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Thank you
because there's a Chinese forum release a ROM and said the VISION PVT SHIP S must be "OFF" so that you can use this ROM, is kind of funny because nobody is "OFF" except the G2 that is sold by their forum, so I was wondering if there's a hardware hack developed too...
Yes, I believe some people have designed a hardware hack using a smart card to permanently root the phone. There is a thread in the development forum about this. My understanding is that is what is going on with the phones you referenced. From what I have seen, these seem legitimately rooted, but it would be an impractical method for most due to the cost the of the smart card.
cparekh said:
Yes, I believe some people have designed a hardware hack using a smart card to permanently root the phone. There is a thread in the development forum about this. My understanding is that is what is going on with the phones you referenced. From what I have seen, these seem legitimately rooted, but it would be an impractical method for most due to the cost the of the smart card.
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Thank you so much for the explaining =)
There is a software hack using the /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 device (which stores radio settings)
It gives you S-OFF, SIM unlock and SuperCID (all of which combined gives you a phone that can take any ROM and any SIM card)
Its in the wiki of xda-developers.
It all sounds good, but just remember SuperCID means that the phone's recovery will not do ANY checking to make sure you have the right ROM image, and S-OFF means that no signature checking will be done installing a ROM and no eMMC write protection will be applied.
In other words, S-OFF gives you the power to completely junk up your phone if you aren't careful.
Let dead threads rest. This thread was last active a month and a half ago, BEFORE the magic happened.
deliberate187 said:
There is a software hack using the /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 device (which stores radio settings)
It gives you S-OFF, SIM unlock and SuperCID (all of which combined gives you a phone that can take any ROM and any SIM card)
Its in the wiki of xda-developers.
It all sounds good, but just remember SuperCID means that the phone's recovery will not do ANY checking to make sure you have the right ROM image, and S-OFF means that no signature checking will be done installing a ROM and no eMMC write protection will be applied.
In other words, S-OFF gives you the power to completely junk up your phone if you aren't careful.
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Hi to all!
Few days ago, HTC released the unlock bootloader tool for HTC Desire also (and for other smartphone) HTCdev - Unlock Bootloader. So I tryed to follow the guide. The first step is intended to upgrade the HBOOT, so I have to connect the device to the computer, to download a RUU from a list on my computer and to execute it. But when my device automatically reboot (this is the procedure) I get and error that says "model id error"! (I have a MIUI Rom)
I write from Italy so I downloaded HTC Europe RUU (my device is not branded). Which one I have to try?
Is there anyone that tryed this procedure? Anyone can help me?
Thanks in advance.
Francesco.
P.S.: my device hboot detail
Bravo PVT1 ship s-on
HBoot-0.93.0001
Microp-031d
Touch Panel-synt0101
Radio 5.09.05.30-2
Same here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431726
Did you run APTG or CT?
Both, but without success
same here, spent a few hours with no joy
Just use revolutionary.io
With revolutionary you don't loose warranty and have full bootloader unlocked.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
andQlimax said:
Just use revolutionary.io
With revolutionary you don't loose warranty and have full bootloader unlocked.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Thanks for the suggestion but I don't want just to unlock the bootloader but unlock the bootloader with HTC rules and tools.
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21119888&postcount=5
There is no point in unlocking bootloader with HTC's tools, unless you wish to use Htc's own crappy recovery to flash a custom rom..
Droidzone said:
Excellent...what we have here are some nice fat guinea pigs!
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fat guinea pigs??? Excellent... we have an idiot! (also I add a "wink" so we are all happy, ok?).
Droidzone said:
There is no point in unlocking bootloader with HTC's tools, unless you wish to use Htc's own crappy recovery to flash a custom rom..
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The point is that I want to try, to test, I'm curious to unlock my bootloader with HTC tools! And not simply unlock the bootloader! So, now, I have a problem. Can you help me? No? So, do not offend and make your businness!
Thanks.
Guineapig was a figure of speech, no offense meant. A guineapig is the commonest lab animal subjected to scientific experiments. If you feel that was offensive, I do apologize profusely.
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Guineapig was a figure of speech, no offense meant. A guineapig is the commonest lab animal subjected to scientific experiments. If you feel that was offensive, I do apologize profusely.
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Ok, apologize me too... it's difficult to understand a "figure of speech"...
So, I just tryed a new RUU from htcdev. They have upgraded the HTC EU one, but I get an error that says that I need to upgrade the ROM to 2.29.405.14.
I think that it's impossibile for me because I have a MIUI ROM, right?
Anyone tested it?
If you're bent on trying the unlocker, the first thing to do is unroot. Keep your goldcard ready, and run the RUU. After unrooting with whatever RUU you chose, select the same RUU from their choice (this is a tentative advice).
Word of caution: They're saying Hboot upgrade required. If that's true, be warned that you will never be able to run an Alpharev/Revolutionary S-off until they update their method to include this.
i have done research and i basically nail down the problem. i did search around and found options to resolve this.
one of it is using RUU options, i tried several times, but due to slow booting, the operation fail.
i try to use OTA, to update to 2.50.707.4, however, when it reboot, it stuck in the HTC black screen instead of white.
My problem problem is same as the one is found:
" powering up takes about 30 minutes - 20 minutes just black screen(so I thought phone completely broken), then HTC logo with approx 10 mins vibro, approx 5 mins silent, boot to android and then - working fast as usual. USB connection not recognizes, reboot to bootloader takes eternity and locks up in menu(maybe its just makes a move onse an hour, I dont tested so long)
Any advises?"
my problem came when i did the "one click eng s-off" as i wanna flash a new radio. after i have done the "one click eng s-ff", my device reboot and i am having the above super slow boot. i assume the hboot screw up or conflict with what i have done.
please please advice...
edit: however, i am able to go into bootloader and recovery using adb command (which take ages). my recovery is 4ext or something like that. i have a backup of my previous downgrade version before i flash the smartdroid. what should i do?
my backup after downgrade version is 2.37.707.3. what else i need to do?
edit: SOLVED
i revert back my hboot and everything done, very risky to have eng s-off.
from what i read, you probably have a device shipped with 3.x, and downgrading hboot causes that super slow booting. its a known problem...
actually, the problem is not caused by downgrading. this is what is did : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403 "one click ENG S-OFF"
i just revert back hboot settings using the terminal and code provided from the thread, and problem gone. yet, i don't know what's go wrong. i think this problem is very rare as it is NOT due to downgrading process, as before i do the ENG S-OFF thing, i already downgrade the device and even flash smartdroid ROM in it with no issues.
actually i am helping my friend to root his phone. well, i own a samsung galaxy s2. i don't have to go through all the pain to root.
The issue happened when you flash the older Eng bootloader on a device that came with gingerbread.
Since the Eng bootloader is older(from froyo) it is as above hosted. Downgrading your bootloader. Its not as rare as might think. A lot of people have been in this spot
marsdta said:
The issue happened when you flash the older Eng bootloader on a device that came with gingerbread.
Since the Eng bootloader is older(from froyo) it is as above hosted. Downgrading your bootloader. Its not as rare as might think. A lot of people have been in this spot
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there might be a lot, but trying to search for this solution is as rare as i can describe. or should i say, i couldn't even search for it? i have to click one by one to search for it.
can you enlighten me with a link or steps to get eng s-off? coz all the search topic i found is actually quite technical, as i am sgs2 users, it is actually very hard to understand the term used in htc.
i might as well quit helping my friends with more rooting/hacking on htc as it is too risky and almost different from sgs2, and i don't wanna pay for any damages.
mattcfk said:
there might be a lot, but trying to search for this solution is as rare as i can describe. or should i say, i couldn't even search for it? i have to click one by one to search for it.
can you enlighten me with a link or steps to get eng s-off? coz all the search topic i found is actually quite technical, as i am sgs2 users, it is actually very hard to understand the term used in htc.
i might as well quit helping my friends with more rooting/hacking on htc as it is too risky and almost different from sgs2, and i don't wanna pay for any damages.
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Their is no need to have Eng soff. It only causes issues for newer devices. Regualr soff is more than enough to flash a custom recovery,custom roms,radios,bootsplashes.
For example with engineering bootloader many people will use.the fastboot command to flash a radio(you guys might use modem). With soff to flash a radio it needs to be packed in a flashable BOOTLOADER zip file. We call them PD98IMG.zip. that's essentially the difference. Eng one can use a PC and fastboot to flash radios, while regular soff we pack it in a zip and flash in bootloader
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Their is no need to have Eng soff. It only causes issues for newer devices. Regualr soff is more than enough to flash a custom recovery,custom roms,radios,bootsplashes.
For example with engineering bootloader many people will use.the fastboot command to flash a radio(you guys might use modem). With soff to flash a radio it needs to be packed in a flashable BOOTLOADER zip file. We call them PD98IMG.zip. that's essentially the difference. Eng one can use a PC and fastboot to flash radios, while regular soff we pack it in a zip and flash in bootloader
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so confusing >.<" anyway, my fren came back to me, he sent his phone for warranty. seems like the bootloader is giving him trouble again (back to very long boot up thing). i don't think i wanna touch HTC device ever.
hi all
after reading too much about this phone im really confused about some of things that i need to ask them from you guys
1-can s-off be blocked by htc?
2-what is hboot? is it down gradable ?
3-what are the most awful things about this phone ?
thank all of you guys
1) HTC could only block S-OFF by releasing a firmware update that patches the exploit used to gain S-OFF. Anyone who is not S-OFF already and updates, would not be able to use whatever method existed previously to S-OFF.
2) Hboot is technically just one file out of the firmware file package that makes up the bootloader screen and reports the firmware version number or hboot version number. This can get confusing because technically one could just flash or update an hboot, without updating the rest of the device firmware so, while the hboot version will show to be one version, the rest of the firmware files to match that hboot version may not actually be those pertaining to the hboot version projected. Hence, it is usually within best practice to update your hboot along with the rest of the firmware files that have been updated with that hboot version. It is common practice on XDA to refer to the entire group of firmware files from an hboot version as simply the hboot.
Typically updating one's hboot is done by flashing an HTC signed RUU or OTA. But can also be done by flashing the firmware.zip file contained within them respectively. It is important to note, if just flashing the firmware.zip files, they must be done sequentially or altered properly to contain all sequential updates otherwise one will brick and probably require JTAG.
3) After unlocking and modding my phone to my liking, I have not one complaint. This phone is everything I wanted in a phone when setting out to upgrade.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using xda app-developers app
i have 3 more quastions
1-what happens if i receive the phone after s-off is blocked. can devs make s-off again? can i downgrade and s-off my phone? (im going to buy a unlocked version)
2-can i s-off my phone again after flashing ruu and s-on?
3-will i lose s-off if htc fixes the bug and i update my phone?
pedyvirus said:
i have 3 more quastions
1-what happens if i receive the phone after s-off is blocked. can devs make s-off again? can i downgrade and s-off my phone? (im going to buy a unlocked version)
2-can i s-off my phone again after flashing ruu and s-on?
3-will i lose s-off if htc fixes the bug and i update my phone?
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1) There is a good chance your phone will not come with any updated firmware if you order it in the near future. That being said, I am not a fortune teller..I have no idea if future updates will be able to achieve S-OFF should they be released.
2) Once you achieve S-OFF, it remains so until you manually force S-ON. If you force S-ON after updating to a firmware that cannot be exploited, you will not be able to get S-OFF until an exploit is found if one is found, however there is never any real good reason to S-ON unless you're trying to trick HTC into honoring the warranty you knew you were forgoing upon unlocking your bootloader.
3) see answer to 2.
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I felt I should add that money and or money and knowledge can get your phone S-OFF in just about any state assuming your hardware is working fine. A riff box and some knowhow or a JTAGG service if you don't have the knowhow can always put your phone in an S-OFF state.
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Hi,
I was running Android 4.4.2 Sense 6 (I think) ROM on my T-Mobile HTC One M8. For my previous OTA, I had flashed stock recovery (in place of my TWRP) and updated the phone. When I tried the same procedure today for the latest 4.4.3 OTA, post OTA update, WiFi would not turn on.
I tried clearing cache as well as factory reset, but Wifi just doesn't turn on.
I understand more information might be required to diagnose this problem, I'm willing to provide any required info.
Please help!
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Thanks,
Ram
S-on or off?
Hboot number?
Baseband?
redpoint73 said:
S-on or off?
Hboot number?
Baseband?
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Details:
S-on
HBOOT-3.16.0.0000
RADIO-1.16.21331931.LA24G
OpenDSP-v38.2.2-00542-M8974.0311
Kernel version:
3.4.0-ga23aecb
[email protected]#1
SMP PREEMPT
Baseband version:
1.16.21331931.LA24G_20.31A.4145.02L_F
Update: I'm getting the device replaced. How do I reset the ***TAMPERED*** and ***UNLOCKED*** flags please?
Thank you!
RamakrishnanRS said:
Update: I'm getting the device replaced. How do I reset the ***TAMPERED*** and ***UNLOCKED*** flags please?
Thank you!
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Need S-OFF for that...
Firewater probably won't work - patched, and to pay $25 just to remove flags on a device you're going to return seems like a bit of a waste
BerndM14 said:
Need S-OFF for that...
Firewater probably won't work - patched, and to pay $25 just to remove flags on a device you're going to return seems like a bit of a waste
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But won't these messages void my warranty? I'm sorry about all the noob questions.
EDIT: Also, camera is not working. I'm guessing some major flaw.
RamakrishnanRS said:
But won't these messages void my warranty? I'm sorry about all the noob questions.
EDIT: Also, camera is not working. I'm guessing some major flaw.
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Yeah it most likely will depending on where you are in the world...
I think in Europe it probably can't, or not as easily. The rest of the world it probably will void the warranty.
If you have S-OFF you can remove those flags and it'll be fine again, they won't say much about the phone saying "S-OFF" as some devices can leave the factory like that or in some instances it could have been a "refurbished" phone that was repaired and given back...Would probably have needed S-OFF depending on the issues it had. So they won't make a huge fuss about the phone saying "S-OFF", but like I said, to pay $25 for a device that you want to return anyways? Seems like a bit of a waste. Sunshine S-OFF(Last I saw) is 1 device exclusive. The license is only applicable to a single device, if you return it and get a new one then you'll have to buy Sunshine S-OFF AGAIN to S-OFF the new device, another $25...
Camera giving issues probably won't make a difference. Rule 1 for big companies - Push the blame onto the customer in order to save a couple of $$$. They'll just turn around and say that the camera is malfunctioning as a result of software issues caused by you when you tampered with the device. You can show the the melted body around the camera and they'll still turn around and blame the "rooting" of the device as the cause of it, saying that you played around with voltages when you shouldn't have and caused it to severly overheat, as a result, making the device practically "melt"
But it's your choice though mate, if you have the $25 to pay for S-OFF and fix it then go with that route, even if you're gonna have to pay an additional $25 when you get a new device, assuming of course that you end up taking another M8.
BerndM14 said:
Yeah it most likely will depending on where you are in the world...
I think in Europe it probably can't, or not as easily. The rest of the world it probably will void the warranty.
If you have S-OFF you can remove those flags and it'll be fine again, they won't say much about the phone saying "S-OFF" as some devices can leave the factory like that or in some instances it could have been a "refurbished" phone that was repaired and given back...Would probably have needed S-OFF depending on the issues it had. So they won't make a huge fuss about the phone saying "S-OFF", but like I said, to pay $25 for a device that you want to return anyways? Seems like a bit of a waste. Sunshine S-OFF(Last I saw) is 1 device exclusive. The license is only applicable to a single device, if you return it and get a new one then you'll have to buy Sunshine S-OFF AGAIN to S-OFF the new device, another $25...
Camera giving issues probably won't make a difference. Rule 1 for big companies - Push the blame onto the customer in order to save a couple of $$$. They'll just turn around and say that the camera is malfunctioning as a result of software issues caused by you when you tampered with the device. You can show the the melted body around the camera and they'll still turn around and blame the "rooting" of the device as the cause of it, saying that you played around with voltages when you shouldn't have and caused it to severly overheat, as a result, making the device practically "melt"
But it's your choice though mate, if you have the $25 to pay for S-OFF and fix it then go with that route, even if you're gonna have to pay an additional $25 when you get a new device, assuming of course that you end up taking another M8.
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Could I maybe use these (in order - a to d) to reset stuff:
a. Firewater to enable S-off (http://www.pocketables.com/2014/04/firewater-brings-s-htc-one-m8-variants.html)
b. Reset Tampered status (http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-remove-tampered-banner-on-htc-one-m8-and-m7/)
c. Reset Unlocked status (http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-reset-unlocked-status-to-locked-on-htc-one-m8/)
d. Remove red text (http://www.droidviews.com/remove-red-text-from-htc-one-m8s-hboot-screen/)
Would this work?
RamakrishnanRS said:
Could I maybe use these (in order - a to d) to reset stuff:
a. Firewater to enable S-off (http://www.pocketables.com/2014/04/firewater-brings-s-htc-one-m8-variants.html)
b. Reset Tampered status (http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-remove-tampered-banner-on-htc-one-m8-and-m7/)
c. Reset Unlocked status (http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-reset-unlocked-status-to-locked-on-htc-one-m8/)
d. Remove red text (http://www.droidviews.com/remove-red-text-from-htc-one-m8s-hboot-screen/)
Would this work?
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Naturally, those are the steps to take to remove the flags. The problem is with Firewater, the exploit they used to grant S-OFF has been patched by HTC. You can give it a try of course. You should definitely try Firewater first, if you succeed then follow those steps you linked. if Firewater fails though, which I think it will, then the only alternative is Sunshine S-OFF and it's $25 like I said before...
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Naturally, those are the steps to take to remove the flags. The problem is with Firewater, the exploit they used to grant S-OFF has been patched by HTC. You can give it a try of course. You should definitely try Firewater first, if you succeed then follow those steps you linked. if Firewater fails though, which I think it will, then the only alternative is Sunshine S-OFF and it's $25 like I said before...
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Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much for your patience. I tried Firewater once yesterday, but my phone was not rooted then. I'll try again and if it doesn't work, I might as well spend the $25 and get it reset, cuz the alternative is the carrier charging me >=$175.
I did see on forums that they were able to figure out even so that the bootloader was unlocked. I'm of half a mind to leave this to luck and deal with the worst case scenario if it happens.
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Details:
S-on
HBOOT-3.16.0.0000
RADIO-1.16.21331931.LA24G
OpenDSP-v38.2.2-00542-M8974.0311
Kernel version:
3.4.0-ga23aecb
[email protected]#1
SMP PREEMPT
Baseband version:
1.16.21331931.LA24G_20.31A.4145.02L_F
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That hboot and radio baseband information do not correspond to the 4.4.3 official OTA. Do you mean to say that you flashed a 4.4.3 custom ROM or a nandroid?
Broken WiFi is a known symptom of outdated (1.xx) firmware combined with a 2.xx based ROM, for which the old hboot and radio baseband numbers also point to.
You either need to flash the firmware manually (s-off required) or actually receive/install the 4.4.3 official OTA (which will also update the firmware). More info on updating the firmware manually here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
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That hboot and radio baseband information do not correspond to the 4.4.3 official OTA. Do you mean to say that you flashed a 4.4.3 custom ROM or a nandroid?
Broken WiFi is a known symptom of outdated (1.xx) firmware combined with a 2.xx based ROM, for which the old hboot and radio baseband numbers also point to.
You either need to flash the firmware manually (s-off required) or actually receive/install the 4.4.3 official OTA (which will also update the firmware). More info on updating the firmware manually here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
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Thank you. A replacement is on the way anyway, so I think I should choose resetting the TAMPERED and UNLOCKED flags over actually getting the phone back to working conditions.
I think the OTA update might have gotten stopped mid-way and resulted in this issue. I'm not really invested in getting the phone to shape right now, I'd much rather not be charged for the UNLOCKing.
BTW, I pay $10 a month for JUMP and warranty - would even that be voided by the unlocking?
Thank you,
Ram