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II'm very new to xda but i successfully flashed SyndicateROM frozen 1.10 and wanted to know what setting i should be placing in setCPU to achieve the advertised overclocked 1.3gHz and undervolted at 1.0gHz, i've read min:200, idle:800, and max:1000-1300. Anyway I appreciate the help and thanks to all of you hard at work in the Android dev community!
You'll get the undervolted 1ghz by default. If you want 1.3ghz, use it as the max.
so if i understand correctly, if i overclock it to 1.3ghz i will be undervolted at 1ghz, so as far as battery life goes, will overclocking it to 1.3ghz give me battery life of the stock 1.0ghz? Sorry for the possibly erroneous questions lol
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so if i understand correctly, if i overclock it to 1.3ghz i will be undervolted at 1ghz, so as far as battery life goes, will overclocking it to 1.3ghz give me battery life of the stock 1.0ghz? Sorry for the possibly erroneous questions lol
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No. You will see less battery life at 1.3ghz. If you want battery life, don't even bother with SetCPU.
Set min 100, max 1.3ghz ondemand governor. 1ghz is uv automatically when it runs at that, but with 1.3 as your max it may not spend much time in 1.0. If your concerned with battery (UV) then min 100, max 1000 might be what you want. I've been running that and I seriously cannot come up with a single speed complaint. K0 and team have done an amazing job with this thing.
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is setCPU safe to use on the epic with syndicaterom? i searched the forums, and it looks like some people are having problems with it...
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is setCPU safe to use on the epic with syndicaterom? i searched the forums, and it looks like some people are having problems with it...
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I've been using syndicate rom for a coons age now and set cpu running the entire time working flawlessly.
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I'm having some trouble with GPU performance with my Epic 4g on stock EC05 with the Genocide 2.0 kernel.
From my research I conclude that I should be getting ~45-50 fps in nenamark1 v1.6 at stock clocks.
My device can only push out 38fps at 1000mhz and 40fps at 1300mhz - something is wrong here.
I have tried the Syndicate frozen 1.2 rom with the Genocide kernel and achieved the same results. I have since gone back to stock rom.
Does any one have any ideas as to why I am getting such low scores.
yeah i tried on srf 1.2 and actually got 30.3.
ok srf 1.2 oc'ed to 1.4. are you sure your actually overclocking? download a program called cpuspy and see if your actually hitting 1.3
edit: btw i odnt think its possible to get any where near those kind of fps without overclocking..
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ok srf 1.2 oc'ed to 1.4. are you sure your actually overclocking? download a program called cpuspy and see if your actually hitting 1.3
edit: btw i odnt think its possible to get any where near those kind of fps without overclocking..
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yes, 41.5 fps max at 1.3ghz Something is wrong. shadow Guardian is fairly choppy as well.
My gpu is gimped...
Which Governor? If using "conservative" I don't think it tops 1000 or 1120 even if overclocked to 1400 unlsee you use the very first Voltage Control. Rodderik doesn't support the new Voltage Control or SetCPU. I brought this up to him a while back. He said to use the Voltage Control in the OP of his thread. Just trowing thoughts out there...
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I only know how to change the governor with setcpu, I don't see a way to do it with voltage control.
My CPU is fine I think. SetCPU also works fine to change the governor. Running the short bench, the lowest result on stock was about 181 ms. Overclocked to 1.3ghz I got 136 ms.
I'm also getting great speed in CPU intensive applications like the n64 emulator n64oid. GPU limited apps like Shadow Guardian and Quake 3 aren't doing as well.
I wonder if my gpu is somehow on power save mode (if that's possible)
Can someone compare their setCPU short bench results to my score of 136 ms?
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My CPU is fine I think. SetCPU also works fine to change the governor. Running the short bench, the lowest result on stock was about 181 ms. Overclocked to 1.3ghz I got 136 ms.
I'm also getting great speed in CPU intensive applications like the n64 emulator n64oid. GPU limited apps like Shadow Guardian and Quake 3 aren't doing as well.
I wonder if my gpu is somehow on power save mode (if that's possible)
Can someone compare their setCPU short bench results to my score of 136 ms?
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More or less what I'm getting. I doubt your gpu is gimped man. And your cpu is deeply integrated with your gpu. Don't think of it like a desktop setup think more like a laptop. Where the gpu is supplemented by the cpus power. 41-44 fps would be normal for 1.3 ghz. What I get at least.
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I know a hell of a lot more about notebooks than I do about android phones, and even integrated graphics chips are independent from the CPU. Sure they may be manufactured on the same silicon with the cpu but they can be clocked independently (and even turned off).
The problem with the epic - and android by extension - is that you don't have direct access to the GPU or its driver. I've read that some kernels for certain phones can allow you to overclock the GPU; though none exist for the epic. An yes, I know about chainfire3d, and it's not really a 'driver'.
At least battery life is good for me...
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I know a hell of a lot more about notebooks than I do about android phones, and even integrated graphics chips are independent from the CPU. Sure they may be manufactured on the same silicon with the cpu but they can be clocked independently (and even turned off).
The problem with the epic - and android by extension - is that you don't have direct access to the GPU or its driver. I've read that some kernels for certain phones can allow you to overclock the GPU; though none exist for the epic. An yes, I know about chainfire3d, and it's not really a 'driver'.
At least battery life is good for me...
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As far as I know, this might be exploitable in GB, which is why you are running into problems.
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As far as I know, this might be exploitable in GB, which is why you are running into problems.
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can you please elaborate?
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I know a hell of a lot more about notebooks than I do about android phones, and even integrated graphics chips are independent from the CPU. Sure they may be manufactured on the same silicon with the cpu but they can be clocked independently (and even turned off).
The problem with the epic - and android by extension - is that you don't have direct access to the GPU or its driver. I've read that some kernels for certain phones can allow you to overclock the GPU; though none exist for the epic. An yes, I know about chainfire3d, and it's not really a 'driver'.
At least battery life is good for me...
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What you said about graphics chips might be true.. But it still doesn't change what I said. The problem is not with your gpu. Its with your settings. You may prove me wrong, but what I said is that your gpu directly relies on your cpu. That's why you get a better framerate when you overclock more. Chainfire has nothing to do with this.. I'm sure you know this but its purpose is to fool games by converting "commands" for a certain gpu into another and downsampling textures, etc so that they can run more efficiently on our chips. Ask anybody else what they're getting on that bench and they'll tell you similar numbers at the clocks we discussed. Btw I'm not sure but I think the gpu drivers for our phones might be closed source. Which would explain why oc'ing our gpu would be impossible without custom ass drivers built from the ground up.
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I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Each Evo is different. Some of them can't handle that high overclock, or can't be undervolted very low. Each one is different, each has its limits.
I don't understand the big deal with overclocking. It burns your battery faster. I personally underclock, with little to no lag and is good enough for my casual gaming needs
Mine doesn't like a clock much at all. I can get about 1.1 before it starts locking up but even then it hangs a lot. I honestly don't see a difference from 1.0 to 1.2. Get a decent rom, good kernel and try out the v6 script an I almost guarantee you will like that better.
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I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Well for us to be able to help you, you would need to provide us with more details on how you are trying to accomplish this.
I use no frils cpu but have also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock but is very confusing. Have any step by step instructions to of to 1.2 I know having higher voltages helps as well.
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Overclocking is overrated. If you need to overclock for every day usage, then something is wrong - at least in my opinion. Resource intensive gaming is different, but you shouldn't need to overclock for browsing, texting, casual games, etc.
Try out the V6 Supercharger script. I'm not currently using it, but have in the past and it seemed to make my phone more snappy. A lot of people swear by it and it's a great script, definitely worth a shot. There are other things you can do to speed up your phone without overclocking. I'd try other options first since overclocking will chew through your battery. Increase the dalvik vm heap size, there are plenty of free apps on the market to help with this task. Uninstall apps you don't use, I'll bet that you never use some of the apps on your phone. Back them up with Titanium Backup and you can restore them if you ever need them again.
In case you didn't already know, the Evo can't overclock past 1.2, I'm not 100% sure why - it has something to do with the processor.
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I never oc over 1075 and only when plugged in if i play a game I need to oc.for I just activate my charging profile and plug up and play 1.2 ghz is a good chance of doing serious.damage as these older scorpion processors get very very hot at that clock speed so they lock up to try and protect themselves from heat damage or they shut down the phone 1075 is as high as you should need to go for any games the evo can handle on the subpar gpu
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...also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock.
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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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Get a shift. Mine runs fine at 1.9. But usually run it art 254-1200 on demand.
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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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You can overclock and undervolt together just fine. You just need to ensure that every frequency has a high enough voltage to run the processor at that step. My Evo is overclocked and undervolted just fine, although IIRC I can only push it up to 1.1 GHz . My tablet is 1ghz to 1.6ghz and is undervolted as well, though.
merge rls 2.0, iron monkey, Droid overclock because of the profiles options. I set up four profiles including one for temp. sometimes i'm underclocking and sometimes overclocking but only up to 1.19 to prevent freeze and boot loops. Only downside is right at open Droid overclock needs su permission but that is my choice since profile changes at open.
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When I had the 4G, I was never able to go above 1118, or somewhere around that. It would have freezing issues.
On my evo shift, I was able to do 1.7 gHz (compared to stock 800 mhz) ok. 1.6 pretty reliabily, and I could run 1.5 all day long. Some guys could do 1.9. It just depends on the phone.
Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Yea shot me the link too bro.
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First let me say I don't use viper mod or any voltage controlling mod.
On sense 3.0 roms such as mikg I over clock to 1152 and set the minimum to 384 and its smooth as butter. No problem and battery lasts all day.
On aosp however such as decks (I'm on it now) I underclock to 499 and leave the min at 254. Smooth as always and battery lasts forever.
Anything past 1152 is going to cause problems (at least in my experience) also the rom/kernel can effect how much you can overclock.
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What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Its counter productive because it is giving less to something that needs more. (Don't take this post as me trying to be a ****. Just voicing how someone explained it to me a while ago)
Think of this as cars.
Lets say you have a nice fancy v8 mustang. Stock, everything is well, balanced.
If you start adding parts and get it pushing out 1000 horsepower (overclock) your most likely gonna need more feul (voltage) or at least stock amount flowing into the engine just to keep it running.
Now lets say you got that same 1000 horsepower gas destroying mustang and you start to lower the amount of gas flowing into the engine (undervolt (done in vipermod)) cylinders (CPU) wont get enough gas, it wont work, and your stuck going no where.
So if that made sense (did to me) then you can see why they are counter productive. Unless your using vipermod to overvolt (which idk if you can since I don't use it) then you can disregard this whole post
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Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Hmm, *interesting*. I believe the best answer to the OP was covered rather well earlier. It's all about your rom/kernel/hardware combination. With all the variables to consider as relevant, your best bet is to experiment and find what works for your device. Don't check set on boot untill you are confident the set-up is stable. Higher is not always better with overclocking. My device runs blazingly well underclocked @768max. Gets insanely great battery @499max. However my quadrants are better @ 1036 than at 1190.
Great thing about android is you can experiment and learn through trial and error.
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I have recently gotten my first android phone, (samsung gio S5660) and decided to install a custom rom on it and root it. I now have CM9 and I overclocked it to 900Mhz.
However, I get 6.2MFLOPS on the linpack test and between 250 and 300 points for processor in the quadrant (standard) test (which takes forever), I feel this is a bit low do you guys agree? And what would cause it? Should I try another rom? if so which one would you guys recommend?
nothing. who cares about scores?
its about how your phone performs, not how it scores into such apps..
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nothing. who cares about scores?
its about how your phone performs, not how it scores into such apps..
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These scores represent how my device performs during their tests, 3d wise its all ok, but the CPU seems to be slow which is noticeable when browsing the web for example (this is a guess tho, since I have not experienced any other android devices.)
I also experience some lagg in other applications and I wish for my device to run it as smooth as possible.
So, does anyone know why my CPU is getting these low grades? Or if I should move on to another ROM? Or if this speed is to be expected from a gio.
How are your cpu frequences set?
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Frequencies?
using setCPU I set the max frequency to 902 and min to 122, it has no effect on performance when I change the 122 to 902. I have set the "governor" to performance.
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I get on quadrant test 2576 point
Reikyrr said:
Frequencies?
using setCPU I set the max frequency to 902 and min to 122, it has no effect on performance when I change the 122 to 902. I have set the "governor" to performance.
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What are your other devices? You must know gio is cheap, but mine still is pretty fast
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LOL, the browsing in CM9 is just slow. It is beta. If you want a faster ROM (for now only) go flash CM7, its butter smooth.
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LOL, the browsing in CM9 is just slow. It is beta. If you want a faster ROM (for now only) go flash CM7, its butter smooth.
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Yeah, decided I would flash CM7 after an other rom did not flash well. Works like a charm CPU scores have gone up from 6MFlops to 11 and from 300pts to 800. Browsing works snappy and games work better.
Thanks guys for the help.
Don't belive benchmarks, theirs scores are NEVER true. Check it. Launch benchmark twice, you will see the difference
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Don't belive benchmarks, theirs scores are NEVER true. Check it. Launch benchmark twice, you will see the difference
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I know you shouldn't trust benchmarks too much, however I benched alot of times and I felt these marks where valid as in that they where twice as low as I was expecting them to be. Also the lagginess of some parts of the system made alarm bells go off.
However now it's fixed, and my gio is steaming ahead.
Thanks once again guys.
Hi guys, here are results of LS970 in antutu Benchmark X.
http://www.mobile-inform.com/content/view/1194/1/
Benchmark X version is a special version of Antutu in wich all the cheats that manufacturers use are disabled. As far as you can see - maximum cpu speed is only 1188 even if 1512 set in SetCpu or CPUMaster.
please do not compare usual version and this one - the results are different - the results on the right - are from the usual version of antutu at 1500 mhz
Ok...
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Hi guys, here are results of LS970 in antutu Benchmark X.
http://www.mobile-inform.com/content/view/1194/1/
Benchmark X version is a special version of Antutu in wich all the cheats that manufacturers use are disabled. As far as you can see - maximum cpu speed is only 1188 even if 1512 set in SetCpu or CPUMaster.
please do not compare usual version and this one - the results are different - the results on the right - are from the usual version of antutu at 1500 mhz
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Our devices automatically lowers the cpu to 1188 when the phone reaches a certain temperature. Try the benchmark when the phone cools down.
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it was as cool as ice-cream
i did not feel any heat at all
That's interesting because I have run quadrant in eco mode and had it indicate the clock speed was 1188 and the run it with eco mode and the clock speed register as the expected 1512. Though I'm not sure what is meant by manufacturer tricks. It's not a trick that the cpu can be clocked down when it's not needed.
the trick is any unusual experience.
Usual antutu shows 1,5 , while this one only 1188
another proof is here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044938
- cpu tweak to enable use of all freqs in high stress times like games and benchmarks
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It's funny but our stock kernel doesn't support the 1188 frequency we have 1134 then 1242
strange...but you've seen the bench
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That's interesting because I have run quadrant in eco mode and had it indicate the clock speed was 1188 and the run it with eco mode and the clock speed register as the expected 1512. Though I'm not sure what is meant by manufacturer tricks. It's not a trick that the cpu can be clocked down when it's not needed.
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Weird, I've always had the phone tell me it's running at 1188mhz, regardless of whether that setting is on or not.
I hate how the system decides for me when my phone is too hot or not.
Compared to my GNexus, this thing is an ice cube.
I can only guess, but sometimes the GNexus would feel like it was ~120-140°F during movie playback at 50% brightness.
This thing has never reached more than 30 °C (I do have an otterbox)
It really rustles my jimmes how they think anything above a 30°C core temp is outrageously hot, and gives them the right to restrict screen brightness and core frequency.
Just.. I need my AOSP back.
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Weird, I've always had the phone tell me it's running at 1188mhz, regardless of whether that setting is on or not.
I hate how the system decides for me when my phone is too hot or not.
Compared to my GNexus, this thing is an ice cube.
I can only guess, but sometimes the GNexus would feel like it was ~120-140°F during movie playback at 50% brightness.
This thing has never reached more than 30 °C (I do have an otterbox)
It really rustles my jimmes how they think anything above a 30°C core temp is outrageously hot, and gives them the right to restrict screen brightness and core frequency.
Just.. I need my AOSP back.
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Amen. Lets hope zv9 update addresses what it thiks heat is. 87° and brightness dims.oh jeez. Also.i achieved 21,968 normal antutu. Was third rank. Was really friggen cool.what a phone. Wish it had dual.radio though.no data while talking and no world capability. Can roam international though
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rsjc741 said:
Weird, I've always had the phone tell me it's running at 1188mhz, regardless of whether that setting is on or not.
I hate how the system decides for me when my phone is too hot or not.
Compared to my GNexus, this thing is an ice cube.
I can only guess, but sometimes the GNexus would feel like it was ~120-140°F during movie playback at 50% brightness.
This thing has never reached more than 30 °C (I do have an otterbox)
It really rustles my jimmes how they think anything above a 30°C core temp is outrageously hot, and gives them the right to restrict screen brightness and core frequency.
Just.. I need my AOSP back.
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Amen. Lets hope zv9 update addresses what it thiks heat is. 87° and brightness dims.oh jeez. Also.i achieved 21,968 normal antutu. Was third rank. Was really friggen cool.what a phone. Wish it had dual.radio though.no data while talking and no world capability. Can roam international though
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Hey guys, THIS is in the AT&T forum, but I believe it will work here too.
I don't know how risky this could be, I haven't done it, but the option is there.