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Defy stucks on white LED / RSD detects nothing

Hi,
I'm a proud owner of the Motorola Defys and was happy until yesterday :-(
I have already read much in the forum and everything about the Defy.
My problem has already tried a post by someone :
1. Jan. 2011 ... As always, I close with my laptop to Defy the load on - but nothing happened. Only a white LED is on permanently.
Its similar in my case:
- Defy flashed with RSD (UK U3 2.1)
- RSD showed: Finished,
...but the
- Defy is not booting anymore
- LED light is white
- RSD does not recognize my Defy
- Charge the battery: Defy did not respond
- :-(
I'm desperate .. and hope to find some answears here...
Best Regards

ditto except mine actually goes through the boot pic and then loops. If I try to boot to USB cable restore (Volume up+boot) =white light. : (

hi there,
I had this after upgrading to the UK 2.5.1 and then wanting to run a 2.34 build.
If you plug the usb cable into the phone while rsdlite is active, the table below should say connected. Simply reflash the full version of 2.5.1 again and it works fine. There is then a method on the forum about gaining root access on 2.5.1. This worked fine for me and i am now running the clean 2.34 blurless rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894650 and this is superb and highly recommended.
As long as you get connected in rsdlite, dont worry your phone isnt bricked and you should have it up and running in no time at all!.
If you get really stuck, i can quite easily get mine into the "state" yours is and do a little video or document the steps for you if that helps.
Andy

ja, that means you have less voltage then you need to boot.
send it back or reload the battery, no chance of getting it up with no bootloader
*edit* me post is not related to andy fletcher, but to you two.
if ye connect the cable to load the battery, does there appear a sign of a batt with a questionmark in it?

First of all: Unplug the phone and power it off. Now hold the [Volume up] button while powering on the phone. Now you get to the bootloader. If it says battery ok, connect the USB cable and go nuts, RSD Lite will detect the phone when it's in the bootloader.
If it says "Battery Low, Cannot program", you can either send it in, hoping they'll just replace it without figuring out you have been rooting and flashing the phone. Or you can do what I did here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10264115 - Just take your time and pay attention to what your'e doing and you'll be fine

RSD cann not connect the Defy
hi Guys ...thank you for your answears...
no I can not start in bootloader ... defy is probably elsewhere ... No Booting No Recovery .. no boot loader ... only the white LED on USB
The Defy ich fully charged...and i tried to turn off take of tthe battery ...hard reset
nothings works :-(
I think i have to send it to Motorola :-(
Best Regrads

Have you tried the USB jumpercable solution?

USB jumpercable
Hi..
I never heard about this...cann u tell me more..
Thanks

dirkdiggler17 said:
Hi..
I never heard about this...cann u tell me more..
Thanks
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It's what I did here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10264115

Battery
Hi...okay thanks very much...this will be the last option for me...if u think the battery is low..then i'll try to start the bootLoader with a different Defy Battery...till then thanks again...
I ll report tomorrow....what happenend

dirkdiggler17 said:
Hi...okay thanks very much...this will be the last option for me...if u think the battery is low..then i'll try to start the bootLoader with a different Defy Battery...till then thanks again...
I ll report tomorrow....what happenend
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Mine acted like the battery had collapsed, reporting "Battery Low, cannot program" after 12 straight hours of charging, but after the usb jumplead trick, the battery has been just fine. I suspect that the problem was in the phone the whole time and being force-fed 5 volts snapped it out of it. Be sure to post what happens when using another battery!

Many thanks to Sorensiim!! wow it worked! I have used the battery of my friend who is also a Defy owner ....
the problem was the black screen ..
I could not see that the Defy was hanging and my battery was too low indeed... .... I had to continue to work with screen black and start the boot loader (Volume up and power on) and then the RSD has also finally recognized my Defy.... I'm going to flash the CleanJitDeodexd2.34CE and keep you informed. .. hopefully l finally also my market will work ......
thanks to all the nice guys discussed with me my problem... i am proud to be a member here ...thanks guys!!!

dirkdiggler17 said:
Many thanks to Sorensiim!! wow it worked! I have used the battery of my friend who is also a Defy owner ....
the problem was the black screen ..
I could not see that the Defy was hanging and my battery was too low indeed... .... I had to continue to work with screen black and start the boot loader (Volume up and power on) and then the RSD has also finally recognized my Defy.... I'm going to flash the CleanJitDeodexd2.34CE and keep you informed. .. hopefully l finally also my market will work ......
thanks to all the nice guys discussed with me my problem... i am proud to be a member here ...thanks guys!!!
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Glad it worked for you, keep us posted

I got mine stuck on white led also, this was because of a mid rom flash interrupt (the cable got pulled out, dont ask who did it cuz i dunno)
Nothing i do makes the phone work, RSD did recognise my phone the first 2 times with white led and i tried to flash a rom but after it said "pass" the result was the same .. no image no bootloader just white led when phone is connected to pc.

Hi everybody. I also have the same problem like astearon. I tried the jumper cable solution but no result: rsd lite don't recognize my defy, i can flash it but it don't reboot after flash, just black screen.
Thanks to people which will help me!
(sorry for my english!)

try some other versions, preferably downgradable, try your original one
I had the same problem after flashing a higher version then noticed it is not supposed to be flashed on the original version my defy was on.

cbfflo said:
Hi everybody. I also have the same problem like astearon. I tried the jumper cable solution but no result: rsd lite don't recognize my defy, i can flash it but it don't reboot after flash, just black screen.
Thanks to people which will help me!
(sorry for my english!)
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so how come you can flash your phone with RSD Lite, if it doesn't recognize your phone ??

Hi All,
I am also having the same problem i.e., white led and RSD lite is able to recognize my defy. Tried to flash Defy_2_2_CN.sbf rom. Not sure what to do.
Appreciate if any one can suggest me something.
Thanks

Listen everybody!!
You DO NOT have to use the jumpercable method thingy..
You just have to buy an AC power supply and charge your defy...
It will light up after some minutes!!!
Sometimes when the battery is COMPLETELY low (empty) you cannot charge by plugging your phone to the PC over PC, only the white LED lights up..
But if you charge it by the AC power supply IT WILL CHARGE!!
From my own experience.

WIIstpM said:
Listen everybody!!
You DO NOT have to use the jumpercable method thingy..
You just have to buy an AC power supply and charge your defy...
It will light up after some minutes!!!
Sometimes when the battery is COMPLETELY low (empty) you cannot charge by plugging your phone to the PC over PC, only the white LED lights up..
But if you charge it by the AC power supply IT WILL CHARGE!!
From my own experience.
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AC power supply what you mean by that?
is it the wall charger that come with the box (charger+usb cable) ?? or like a built in wall charger like the normal one??
(*try charing with charger come with defy, finger cross) !!!!
Original wall charger not working ~~~
But Mcguyver Hack Works!!!!

[Q] Help needed :) phone dead, mcgyver doesnt work, no rsd lite recog.

hey guys,
the original thread is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940647
i did everything according to the description...
directly after flashing chineese stock rom^^ .... came back to the pc (wasnt there during flashing, but nothing could have happened, only rsdlite running, phone wasnt recognized, phone was off, white led on)
(battery has been fully charged, so battery is okay)
i tried everything, volume up + power, didnt work, rsd lite cant recognize. nothing here...
maybe someone can give me advices? no chance here so far to get it recognized in rsd lite.
thanks - appreciate any help,
but i got the really bad feeling that i've bricked my phone - OMFG guys.
edit: omfg, now there is a warning. it wasnt there when i flashed it, on the links stands, u can flash some leak, BUT - no rsdlite, no fllashing^^ ? right?
edit2: read some more posts, will try mcgyver hack 2morrow, invited to a party right now^^ so without a phone meeting some people always a litte bit more complicated :====P ***so thumbs Up *** for my little person for tomorrow. cant explain why the battery should be completely empty? but hope, that white led just means that. - will report 2morrow -
edit3-solution?
my defy is already on the way to service, BUT
someone told me: ! --> HOLD THE POWER UP KEY - BEFORE u PUT THE BATTERY IN ...
this worked for him.. maybe this could help anyone else! good luck to everyone!!

this work for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026

just flashed the chinese 2.2 with RSD lite, all went well, RSD gave a "pass" result to the flash And now the phone will not turn on, no lights or anything. Charge light doesn't even come on when plugged in, if i press power when it is connected to charger, the led flashed white once and nothing else. I had 3/4 full charge when I began, don't see how the battery could have drained out, but I will try charging externally
Also I was coming from T-mobile Eclair 2.1

ok, so my first flash I used a flie I downloaded labled 2.2CN_SBF.sbf
So I reconnected the phone to RSDlite, and it showed the device was connected, I downloaded the Chinese.SBF from Higgsy's page and still nothing but a dead phone, its definetaly not the battery if its connecting to RSDlite and letting my flash, and reflash. Maybe I will try going back to stock 2.1 sbf

make sure your set to first-Come-first serve Deviceid mode in rsd lite config
I've tried flashing the orignal offical UK SBF, and a Lite Chinese 2.2, nothing screen is black, can not get into recovery, phone stays in bootloader but has black screen although says SW upate when flashing
crazyVII said:
hey guys,
the original thread is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940647
i did everything according to the description...
directly after flashing chineese stock rom^^ .... came back to the pc (wasnt there during flashing, but nothing could have happened, only rsdlite running, phone wasnt recognized, phone was off, white led on)
(battery has been fully charged, so battery is okay)
i tried everything, volume up + power, didnt work, rsd lite cant recognize. nothing here...
maybe someone can give me advices? no chance here so far to get it recognized in rsd lite.
thanks - appreciate any help,
but i got the really bad feeling that i've bricked my phone - OMFG guys.
edit: omfg, now there is a warning. it wasnt there when i flashed it, on the links stands, u can flash some leak, BUT - no rsdlite, no fllashing^^ ? right?
edit2: read some more posts, will try mcgyver hack 2morrow, invited to a party right now^^ so without a phone meeting some people always a litte bit more complicated :====P ***so thumbs Up *** for my little person for tomorrow. cant explain why the battery should be completely empty? but hope, that white led just means that. - will report 2morrow -
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I already experienced this. It's a big no-no to flash the Chinese SBF if you're coming from 2.51. After flashing the SBF through RSD, the phone won't boot up. It's a good thing that my phone is under warranty and so i got a new replacement

nitski said:
I already experienced this. It's a big no-no to flash the Chinese SBF if you're coming from 2.51. After flashing the SBF through RSD, the phone won't boot up. It's a good thing that my phone is under warranty and so i got a new replacement
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Was forced to flash the leaked froyo tmobile signed SBF. Forgot that this Defy wasn't the orignal, my wife had it replaced due to Earpiece failure, so the replacement must have had the OTA already, cause i never installed it. Oh well its her damn phone anyways LOL
Just curious how would you check next time to see if its 2.51

So to sum up CrazyVII, You have to flash the Froyo Leaked SBF with the signed keys, otherwise you will never finish the bootloader flash.
Just connected to RSD and make sure its set to First cum first serve, and hit the power button on the phone, screen won't light, and my led didn't either, but it should safe connected in slot one of devices.
Start Flash, and wait to see the "M" , RSD will let you know when to restart the phone.
Hopefully they figure out how to make this downgradeable, I perseonally Have a G2, but I really enjoyed Rooting, and deblurring my wifes phone, its a nice device

nitski said:
I already experienced this. It's a big no-no to flash the Chinese SBF if you're coming from 2.51. After flashing the SBF through RSD, the phone won't boot up. It's a good thing that my phone is under warranty and so i got a new replacement
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seriouus answer? dont want to wait until a new one arrives..
Dalamak said:
So to sum up CrazyVII, You have to flash the Froyo Leaked SBF with the signed keys, otherwise you will never finish the bootloader flash.
Just connected to RSD and make sure its set to First cum first serve, and hit the power button on the phone, screen won't light, and my led didn't either, but it should safe connected in slot one of devices.
Start Flash, and wait to see the "M" , RSD will let you know when to restart the phone.
Hopefully they figure out how to make this downgradeable, I perseonally Have a G2, but I really enjoyed Rooting, and deblurring my wifes phone, its a nice device
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thanks for summing up,
u mean the chineese froyo release is something like the 3.4.?.? version? im going to search for it right now
maybe anyone can supply a link?
the problem is, i tried nearly evey combination, the phone doesnt recognized by rsd lite.best proposal would be - battery out - in - vol up + power - wait .... rsd lite doesnt do anything.
so very hard to flash.
do i need to apply the mcgyver trick, or is it useless....?
edit: why can't the phone load while off? i just understand the logic behind this behaviour...
best reagrsds thx,
cV

phone really dead.
guys, tried mcgyver trick....
white light goes on on usb connect directly... dont know why, but nothing worked. first come first served mode enabled in rsd lite.
rsdlite running the whole time. nothing connects, nothing realized.
direct boot (only power button), power + volup button, everything. no result.
the strange thing, in the meantime i saw someone posting, he flashed the whole thing(as in the description, 1st post) on 2.51 and on his phone everything worked fine.
no idea. but i think mine is really gone now. i think ill send it to my reseller tomorrow. im not quite sure if i can stay with such a situation (not loading in boot loader mode? WTF? no real recovery image? F*CK? bad hacks? no useful backup situation.. why do i need a recovery, when i cant access it when i screwed up? -> useless to me.
im really thinking of switching back to htc, although the DHD is too big, i think ill gonna take it
guys, any tipps? suggestions? id really appreaciate it. :=)
thanks for all the responses so far.
current situation
- mcgyver trick tried for 45 mins,
- rsd lite in first come first served mode
- white led goes on on usb connect immediately
- screen is black the whole time
- no results - no recognization...
- flashed chineese 2.2 on 2.51 firmware

Did the same goof up....got greedy for froyo and couldn't resist f&(*ing my defy........was cribbing for 8 hours while figuring out the solution.... escaped office for this.....but finally finally .......i saved it.......man.....if blood is the answer for blooood....then it has to be 2.51 for 2.51....
please click the link below for the only feasible 2.51 sbf....flash your defy in a standard manner and kabbooooom........defy reincarnated...
:
hope it works for all the good people in need....it worked for me (Atleast my defy turned on still observing how it works)..
Defy 2.51 sbf
Theres more....though i sacrificed one of my data cable for mcgyver jugulary...but got a wonderful outcome of my 12 hours wait..........my earlier (india) rom was not full blur...never realized it...facebuk never synced......but this uk rom is FULL BLUR..and its awesome......alll my accounts are intact......everthing works just fine....in face some of the the apps which never used to work earlier work flawlessly now........
ACCIDENTS ARE NOT ALWAYS BAD

All those greedy people wanting to flash froyo from 2.51 and wanting to keep their downgradability, you will need to search for tutorial from Bihariel where he put up froyo rom only for 2.51 base.
All the best.

[Q] My Defy really is Dead!

Ok my phone is DEAD! Yes I have have read alot of posts and used my mate "Google" but they are all saying or pointing to the threads saying flash with the .sdf files with RSD which I have done Infact i've tried most .sdf images. I work in ICT so I know to do research first before posting but I'm not getting anywhere. I just hope i'm being a numpty and missed something.
I have an unbranded UK one original version 2.21 and I had successfully flashed with the available roms on here and others by following the steps, but last night I flashed it with PAYS rom and it was fine but then it all went pear shaped when I tried to flash it back to the original 2.21 rom via RSD Lite but it's just a black screen and when plugged in I get a charge light. The Battery is fully charged.
I can not enter Bootloader and when I enter system recovery it does not respond when pressing the bottom right hand corner.
RSD does see the phone connected and it runs through the process of flashing it but then it goes to re-boot and nothing. RSD says it's finished, it does not go through the process of re-booting the phone.
In RSD on the phone properties this is all I get:-
IMEI/ESN/MEID: N / A
Technology: N / A
Software Version: N / A
Flex Version: N / A
Bootloader Version: v0x000910
DRM Version: N / A
AP Die ID: 1e600209036f60010000d8ff0100
BP Die ID: 0000000000000000000000000000
AP Public ID: a9e56c008df05759e72a50cf0e4ce907eea6c0de
Please, please somebody help me!

Simple way to start off is to start with original UK 2.51 sbf. Forget 2.2 now and start from beginning. I bricked mine trying Pays too.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

chaihg said:
Simple way to start off is to start with original UK 2.51 sbf. Forget 2.2 now and start from beginning. I bricked mine trying Pays too.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App
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Hi,
I have tried flashing the 2.51.sbf even tho it has the problems with downgrading. It does the same as the the other 5 or 6 i've tried.
Thanks for your suggestion tho.

I'm no expert, but is this where the touch all four corners going clockwise starting is upper left comes in?
Thought I read something about doing that when touching the single corner didn't work to get into recovery.
I could have misremembered (don't even know if it was in this forum), but it couldn't be that hard to try and it doesn't sound like you have much to lose.
maybe search four corners or something to figure out more.

Maybe time for factory repair

ABC_Universal said:
Maybe time for factory repair
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I think it may be time to call Motorola. Thanks for the tips guys.
Just tried the battery hack to charge it but nothing, even uninstalled everyting and downloading fresh .sbf files from work and still DEAD!
RIP Moto Defy, it was only one week old!
On a life experience tho, my first even bricked device......woooohoooooooo!
I've had quite a few phones that I have customized from here, top effot guys. There are many greats minds on here.
Think as i've just lost it, it could be time to retire and go (dare I say it!) mainstream, run of the mill Nokia.....GULP!

In the future it would be better to post these issues in the thread of the ROM you are having issues with. More people who may have had similar issues may be able to help you and it helps the dev know what issues you're having.

it_ferret said:
I think it may be time to call Motorola. Thanks for the tips guys.
Just tried the battery hack to charge it but nothing, even uninstalled everyting and downloading fresh .sbf files from work and still DEAD!
RIP Moto Defy, it was only one week old!
On a life experience tho, my first even bricked device......woooohoooooooo!
I've had quite a few phones that I have customized from here, top effot guys. There are many greats minds on here.
Think as i've just lost it, it could be time to retire and go (dare I say it!) mainstream, run of the mill Nokia.....GULP!
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Did you send it away?. You sounded like a bright guy we could have solved this together though . Ultimate thing you could have done was to flash one of the leaked original UK froyo sbf. If you still have not sent it then do this. BTW what is the bootloader version when you put it on vol up+ power ?

Have the same problem
The phone is briked. Only RSD is working but wathever sbf I flash, at the end i get the same black screen. I can not do anything. Please could someone help us?
If someone send their phone to service, please share the result.
The only sbf file that start the phone is
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_117-002_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8RTGB035.0R_USAJRDNFRYORTGB_P003_A002_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
but is working hard, the market is not working, everything i want to download is say that is downloading and nothing hapends.
Could someone tell me how to go back to original software?
The recovery mode is not working, when the android face is showing, i tap all corners and all display area but nothing hapend.

For recovery mode, you should click both vol up and vol down simultaneously. They changed the recovery button function with the new bootloader.

it_ferret said:
Ok my phone is DEAD! .....
Please, please somebody help me!
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I had the same problem, but with luck i had read this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940647&highlight=market
and i succeded to restore my "brick" into one working phone.
Try it.
Many thanks to : adlx.xda

Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11226369&postcount=5 works for me
Umm... I just bricked mine (HK version 2.51.0) as well.
I used ClockWorkMod Recovery for Defy to install 3.4.2 131-003 Orange Deblur. When the recovery finished, I found a tiny yellow line "E: can't open /cache/recovery/command" on the bottom of screen. Not sure if it was there before the recovery. When rebooted the phone showed the M logo for a minute, turned black for a second, and showed the M back again in loop.
Then I installed RSDlite 4.8 to flash the sbf directly. RSDlite finished and showed a "Pass". The phone was turned off automatically but couldn't be turned on again. The battery was fully charged before I started the update so it's not likely the battery charge problem.

Weudel said:
In the future it would be better to post these issues in the thread of the ROM you are having issues with. More people who may have had similar issues may be able to help you and it helps the dev know what issues you're having.
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I did post in the thread.

Heys guys thanks for all the comments, but last night it came alive.
I used 3 different computers and in the end the last pc I used was a WIN 7 x64 machine and it managed to complete the .sbf install which was a 34.4 version then i applied my previously nand backup to 34.4.4 US T-Mobile version which is Jboogie3 rom.
Keep up the good work guys and gals. This is an excellent community to be in.

ABC_Universal said:
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11226369&postcount=5 works for me
I tried this install but that aswell failed.
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im a newbie at this and did pays flash but had probs couldnt dial out ect ect so went to recovery but could not get bottom left hand screen work so after half day of trying i clicked both bottom -vol and top+ vol and restart button on top and it worked!!! but thought id give the rom one last go so did factory reboot flashed cash ect restarted signed into blur and now works great pleased i stuck with it...cheers pays

[Q] defy bricked rsd lite wont read help!!!

ok i have tmobile usa defy it was stock all the way not rooted nothing done to it one day it turned off and restarted on its own it entered a boot loop i didnt know why i then read up on it and found out this is not uncommon i guess so using rsd lite i attempted to flash the uk 2.21 it finished and said pass but never rebooted i was like wtf so i read more no answer sprang forth it couldnt be turned on in any way only a black screen and white led light also not uncommon so i followed all instructions even the mcgyver battery hack the computer shows the device as an omap flashable motorola device but rsd lite wont read it for some reason ive uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers and rsd lite multiple times my laptop chimes every time i connect the phone with battery hack but then and only then does it show up without rsd reading the device i cant flash it does anyone have any idea how to fix this im not a noob at all im just at my wits end on figuring this out and need some advice i dont care if its something experimental or if i need to rub the phone with vaseline i just need it fixed any help is appreciated thanks

hackulous said:
ok i have tmobile usa defy it was stock all the way not rooted nothing done to it one day it turned off and restarted on its own it entered a boot loop i didnt know why i then read up on it and found out this is not uncommon i guess so using rsd lite i attempted to flash the uk 2.21 it finished and said pass but never rebooted i was like wtf so i read more no answer sprang forth it couldnt be turned on in any way only a black screen and white led light also not uncommon so i followed all instructions even the mcgyver battery hack the computer shows the device as an omap flashable motorola device but rsd lite wont read it for some reason ive uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers and rsd lite multiple times my laptop chimes every time i connect the phone with battery hack but then and only then does it show up without rsd reading the device i cant flash it does anyone have any idea how to fix this im not a noob at all im just at my wits end on figuring this out and need some advice i dont care if its something experimental or if i need to rub the phone with vaseline i just need it fixed any help is appreciated thanks
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For all i know if you have a black screen with white led you should see your device is RSDLite, are u using 4.9?
Did you tried powering on and off the phone with RSDLite turned on(even though you only see a black screen)?
For you to get out of that mess you will have to see Motorola white logo, then you will only need a wipe from recovery.

Ouch another downgrade that's not allowed. It actually says in many posts that you cannot downgrade from 2.51 which you probably had. Then again I made the same mistake once and just like the previous post suggests rsd lite 4.9 should see the phone. Make sure you also use the latest usb drivers. Then flash 2.51 or a later version to revive the phone, just like I did with mine.
Make sure you try the following. Pull the battery, start rsd lite, connect with the pc using the usb cable, hold the volume up button, replace the battery and press and hold the power button. It may take a while but the phone should show up in rsd lite.
Sent from my Moto Defy using Tapatalk

ok i tried everything you guys just said my drivers are up to date im using rsd 4.9 and im trying to flash the leaked tmo us froyo rom so it should fix it but the problem im facing is that the white light is no longer coming on and rsd is not showing it as a device but its in my computers devices and the only way it shows on my computer is if i use the mcgyver hack which makes me feel like the battery is dead so im going to try holding volume up before i put the battery in with the wires connected but all else is failing for some reason
edit: it didnt work im at a loss now i think i own a 400 dollar paper weight i just dont understand why rsd wont register it and the light blinks briefly when i hook it to the computer with the battery hack is it possible the battery is just way too low for this to work?

If you are on Windows 7 you have to start RSD Lite as administrator.

Hi mate,
I had the exact same thing happen to me at the weekend there and got it fixed, either read my thread or i`ll try to tell you what i done. I got to the same stage as you where rsdlite wasnt even recognising the phone, but i plugged it in by usb anyway and even when rsdlite didn

Hi mate,
I had the exact same thing happen to me at the weekend there and got it fixed, either read my thread or i`ll try to tell you what i done. I got to the same stage as you where rsdlite wasnt even recognising the phone, but i plugged it in by usb anyway and even when rsdlite didnt recognise it i pressed the start button anyway and it would flash then not reboot like yours.
Screen would say software updating and that was all. Finally i kept just plugging it in by usb(without trying to get into bootloader and rsdlite still not recognising it) and flashed the Rom that i was on before the errors and it all worked.
So maybe you should try flashing with rom you had on it to start with or the one that worked for me which was the PAYS rom.
Good luck
Mark

the only problem is that i dont know what rom i was on before i only had the phone 3 days before it bootlooped and quit working i hadnt even had a chance to root it or anything yet really so i think im just screwed on rsd i can hit start but it doesnt do anything when i do its acting like theres no phone connected at all

Mine looked at if it wasnt connected at all either, maybe try switching the power on while it is in usb and rsdlite is running, I done that and heard the usb connection noise but that was all i got, still black screen, but once I pressed start it said software updating. Maybe you will have to try all the original sbf till it says "updating software" and then hopefully once you pick right one it will reboot too.
Only thing I can think of is did you remember to start rsdlite with administrator rights? And maybe the sbf you need to flash is an older one?
Mark

hackulous said:
ok i tried everything you guys just said my drivers are up to date im using rsd 4.9 and im trying to flash the leaked tmo us froyo rom so it should fix it but the problem im facing is that the white light is no longer coming on and rsd is not showing it as a device but its in my computers devices and the only way it shows on my computer is if i use the mcgyver hack which makes me feel like the battery is dead so im going to try holding volume up before i put the battery in with the wires connected but all else is failing for some reason
edit: it didnt work im at a loss now i think i own a 400 dollar paper weight i just dont understand why rsd wont register it and the light blinks briefly when i hook it to the computer with the battery hack is it possible the battery is just way too low for this to work?
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When you brick your phone, it won't load the batt any more. I've seen peepz loading the batt directly connected to the batt charger by cutting of a USB Cable. If you got a friend with a defy, try his battery and then retry flashing. This should solve your problem.
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Edit: here's a explain from a german forum: http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-ha...-nicht-nur-weisse-led-rsd-erkennt-nichts.html

im already using the mcgyver hack im going round 83 with this thing it just showed up on rsd not sure why but im glad trying to flash now but it keeps saying failed and it wont let me flash the leaked tmo us froyo at all the start button stays gray but its trying to let me flash other stuff maybe my downloads are bad not sure redownloading now
edit: ok found a way with command line to get the start button back but obviously its not running as administrator because it isnt reading the phone im afraid to unhook the phone for fear it might not come back looks like im on the pc for about a day

It sounds a bit like my problem, maybe it wont flash the tmo froyo, i`d maybe keep it hooked up to the pc and try all different sbf to see if one works.

ok i have to run as admin to see the phone but using command line to force the program to accept the file means it wont show the phone because its not running as admin this is the last time i ever buy or use a motorola product why the hell do they lock bootloaders?

the only thing its letting me flash is the uk 2.21 and then it brings me back to square one black screen idk what to do anymore man this sucks

So when you run as administrator it shows your phone in rsdlite? thats a good start. Once you flash the uk 2.21 does it try to reboot or just go into black screen?
Mine just seemed to go into black screen then for some reason it worked on one of the sbf.

If ur case is that serious then just flash one of leaked european froyo sbf. Don't flash chinese. Make sure u charge it before. Wipe after flashing by going into stock recovery.
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ok i got it to work on the 2.2 leaked orange deblur that solved it but now my phone will only come on if im using the mcgyver battery hack so i cant take it away from the computer making it much less useful could this just be that i need a new battery now if so thats a cheap fix
edit: im an idiot the phone was on 0% battery life plugged into the wall its charging im fixed thanks to you guys this community is the best

Glad to see you got it sorted mate.

Swoooosh. . . U solved it .
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I seem to have the same problem. Can you explain what you did to have your phone fixed!
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[HELP] Bricked, almost dead Defy+

i bought this Defy+ just a couple of days ago and i was trying to get CM7. I struggled to root it but i achieved it. I wiped and did all the procedure before installing it, but i didn't had enough space on my SD, so i rebooted and booted like a brand new defy, going through the Blur config and everything... So i went to Recovery again, but at this time i forgot to do the wiping - which, i guess, led to a brick.
So i managed to get a .sbf to flash it.. What i didn't realized is that the .sbf was a custom, so i guess this ****ed up my phone even more. And so i went on trying to rescue my phone but this time i couldn't complete the flashing process, i wasn't able to perform a downgrade - i guess. After this, i got a non-rootable .sbf and began the flashing. The process got stuck on some message at 0%, then i disconnected the phone.
When i was able to download a stock firmware, from the .sbf thread, the phone wouldn't reboot when RSD asked, it didn't turn on again. So i tried to re-flash it, same .sbf and now i'm stuck with this situation: the pc is not recognizing my phone, i have a black screen - not even the Bootloader error screen is appearing and i'm here, begging, for someone to help me. is it dead? can i get it back?
HELP, PLZ

Is there any juice in the battery left? Does the phone even turn on or did you just drain all of your battery? If so, you have a couple of options - do McGyver or find somebody with the same phone and ask him to charge your battery and then start over. I would strongly recommend you take the second option.

Auris 1.6 vvt-i said:
Is there any juice in the battery left? Does the phone even turn on or did you just drain all of your battery? If so, you have a couple of options - do McGyver or find somebody with the same phone and ask him to charge your battery and then start over. I would strongly recommend you take the second option.
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it doesn't turn on, but i guess it does have battery, i can see the led on when i connect it to the pc

Led is always on when connected to the PC - it means nothing. If it doesn't turn on, then your battery's dead. Find someone who has the same phone and can charge it for you.

I think there is no problem, but you flash older firmware, which is probably due to the 7 bootloader does not go up.
try to be flash with one of these (2.3.6 GB)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
begins with the 139-ended, if it is not going to work with the 188-ended
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"As of today there is no a full SBF** for the Defy+ (found here).
This full SBF is a new CG Version**, with Android 2.3.6. You wont be able to go back to your Stock Defy+ Rom, but at least you wont kill it if something goes wrong."

i successfully flashed it but still it won't turn on, i'm almost giving up on this one

caiowatanabe said:
i successfully flashed it but still it won't turn on, i'm almost giving up on this one
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If it gets past the red m and just keeps playing the android animation then simply pull battery hold volume - put battery in and keep volume - held when you get the android and the triangle press volume + and - and wipe all, should boot, unfortunately you've just flashed the un root able sbf and are stuck on moto standard
teamwork makes the dream work

nevermind, i flashed other sbf version and it is now working; too bad this version isn't rootable
anyway, many many thanks for all the help

caiowatanabe said:
nevermind, i flashed other sbf version and it is now working; too bad this version isn't rootable
anyway, many many thanks for all the help
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Feel free to keep an eye on the dev section for the bl7 rooting thread you may get lucky
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