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So far I have been largely impressed by Android OS. I really, really like the level of customization - the importance of which cannot be overstated. I'm not out to start a flamer thread, but there are lots of things that Android, given the proper hardware, does better. However, there are still a couple things that I'm missing before I can declare my Desire fully ready for the stresses of the day.
I'm fairly addicted to podcasts - I listen to then pretty much every day, most of the day while at work. I know there are several apps where I can download podcasts right from the phone as well a few iTunes hop-on software packages. The goal is to get as much like what I can do in iTunes as possible. Say I have an audiobook that gets interrupted or that I want to supplement with some music. Is there a music program that can decipher between normal audio files and ones that are tagged as being audiobooks? Meaning that when you stop it in order to play another audio file, does it pick up where you left off? Also, I have 29 gigs of podcasts that I have not yet listened to. This is where the need for a simple, elegant media program on my desktop comes in. I'd like to be able to individually select which episodes of each podcast I'd like to sync with my Desire or have the option of just syncing everything in that specific podcast that has not yet been listened to. So basically, the same sorting capabilities of iTunes. That's the first thing that is missing.
I know there are hundreds of these task killer programs; some more thorough than others. This is where the iPhone exceeds (now) - but webOS even more so. I've found something that is a push in the right direction; QuickDesk Beta. But I need something like that that can also be brought up in the lock screen. More importantly though, there needs to be some kind of widget that can be placed within QuickDesk that displays all the programs currently open (even if they're in a static state), so you can easily 'x' whichever ones you'd like to close out of. I'm talking actual apps, not background services or mods of that type. WebOS is pretty much the benchmark for mobile task management, so I'd love to come as close to it as possible. This is the second thing that's missing, or maybe that I'm just not aware of yet. Any suggestions / ideas?
I'm running DeFroST 2.0b
One more quick question: I installed DeFroST 2.0b over 2.0a. After I had done this, I reinstalled the baseband version update, cause the echo came back. It's great now, but I'm wondering if there is anything about that procedure that is prone to cause problems. I know you should factory reset / clear cache before a ROM install, but I really didn't want to re-enter all my info / re download all my apps. I understand Google does a backup of your personal information on Froyo, I'm just not sure to what extent. Anyway... just curious.
Thanks to richardtrip and everyone involved in the making of the DeForST ROM - It's great! Definitely a cause worth donating to.
regarding what you said about task killers - there has been hundreds of threads about it already and still people dont understand that YOU SHOULDNT USE a task killer on android system.
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
well, i need to from time to time. mainly for the browser.
For podcast have a look at Google Listen, might not do all you want but a good place to start.
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I'm also a bit of a podcast nut, I've tried most of the podcatching apps and found doggcatcher to be the best. Listen is pretty good for a free one.
By the way is that baseband update a fix for everyone that has the echo problem? That echo is the only reason I am still using Pays Eclair rom...
As for task managers, I think there is a place for them on older devices where ram is limited. You don't need one on the desire though.
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I'm also a bit of a podcast nut, I've tried most of the podcatching apps and found doggcatcher to be the best.
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I looked for doggcatcher but the only one I see is for a $6.99 one, not free....
I didn't say doggcatcher was free.
For syncronising your media whit your phone, you could try doubletwist.
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I didn't say doggcatcher was free.
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Yes, sorry, I misread it.... thanks. Didn't realise LISTEN was a program too...
cez10 said:
regarding what you said about task killers - there has been hundreds of threads about it already and still people dont understand that YOU SHOULDNT USE a task killer on android system.
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
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You do if you want to kill tasks. Are you saying no apps are badly written? Google for a bit, or read comments for various apps on the market-place.
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regarding what you said about task killers - there has been hundreds of threads about it already and still people dont understand that YOU SHOULDNT USE a task killer on android system.
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
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They reason they don't understand it is that your link doesn't explain it. And the blog from google essentially says the OS just kills it when there is no memory left. If the OS can do it we can do it (and some of them do run in the background)
Thanks for all the suggestions and tips, guys. I guess it's not so much an app killer that i want, but rather, a nice looking way of seeing everything that's open. I dunno, I guess my thinking a little too conventional for the Android world. Google listen can't seem to find anything I'm looking for. And Doubletwist, while a great idea, is honestly the buggiest, slowest, something that should be labeled as being in alpha stages that I've ever seen. It is a step in the right direction though. I'll definitely check out doggcatcher. I'm loving the XDA app, btw!
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So far I have been largely impressed by Android OS. I really, really like the level of customization - the importance of which cannot be overstated. I'm not out to start a flamer thread, but there are lots of things that Android, given the proper hardware, does better. However, there are still a couple things that I'm missing before I can declare my Desire fully ready for the stresses of the day.
I'm fairly addicted to podcasts - I listen to then pretty much every day, most of the day while at work. I know there are several apps where I can download podcasts right from the phone as well a few iTunes hop-on software packages. The goal is to get as much like what I can do in iTunes as possible. Say I have an audiobook that gets interrupted or that I want to supplement with some music. Is there a music program that can decipher between normal audio files and ones that are tagged as being audiobooks? Meaning that when you stop it in order to play another audio file, does it pick up where you left off? Also, I have 29 gigs of podcasts that I have not yet listened to. This is where the need for a simple, elegant media program on my desktop comes in. I'd like to be able to individually select which episodes of each podcast I'd like to sync with my Desire or have the option of just syncing everything in that specific podcast that has not yet been listened to. So basically, the same sorting capabilities of iTunes. That's the first thing that is missing.
I know there are hundreds of these task killer programs; some more thorough than others. This is where the iPhone exceeds (now) - but webOS even more so. I've found something that is a push in the right direction; QuickDesk Beta. But I need something like that that can also be brought up in the lock screen. More importantly though, there needs to be some kind of widget that can be placed within QuickDesk that displays all the programs currently open (even if they're in a static state), so you can easily 'x' whichever ones you'd like to close out of. I'm talking actual apps, not background services or mods of that type. WebOS is pretty much the benchmark for mobile task management, so I'd love to come as close to it as possible. This is the second thing that's missing, or maybe that I'm just not aware of yet. Any suggestions / ideas?
I'm running DeFroST 2.0b
One more quick question: I installed DeFroST 2.0b over 2.0a. After I had done this, I reinstalled the baseband version update, cause the echo came back. It's great now, but I'm wondering if there is anything about that procedure that is prone to cause problems. I know you should factory reset / clear cache before a ROM install, but I really didn't want to re-enter all my info / re download all my apps. I understand Google does a backup of your personal information on Froyo, I'm just not sure to what extent. Anyway... just curious.
Thanks to richardtrip and everyone involved in the making of the DeForST ROM - It's great! Definitely a cause worth donating to.
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Please do me and your phone a favour and never use a task killer!!!
Slows down your phone, kills your battery and gives you a unstable android os!
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I can pretty confidently say that I won't even both with task killers now. So I will do you that favor.
If you are on your homescreen and keep the home button pressed you either see recently used programs or running programs (don't remember which one of the two it was)
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If you are on your homescreen and keep the home button pressed you either see recently used programs or running programs (don't remember which one of the two it was)
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recently used.
Certainly agree about Doubletwist. Nice idea, not ready.
Greets - With Amazon giving away an app a day, it is fairly easy to grab each one just in case. Of course, Talking TomCat gets very old after a while (10 minutes?) and PicSay may come in handy some day, but not now.
Any idea how one can claim the free app, and have it when/if you want it, but NOT have to have every single one of them on your phone, growing by the day?
Thanks!!
Download it, then uninstall it. You can reinstall it from Amazon any time you want.
It's amazing some of the apps that they are giving away. Saved me over twenty dollars so far
I wish they was done way to keep therm for side loading directly rather than going back to amazon.
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I don't know if it would work but can you download it, save the .apk on your computer, uninstall it, then reinstall it at a later time?
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Amazon keeps a record of what you have "purchased". I have downloaded the free apps but have not installed them all. They are sitting there waiting.
Considering Amazon keeps your record and you can redownload all you want, in addition to the fact it only takes a matter of seconds...I would think that's a better route than trying to harbor the .apk because there might have been bug fixes, etc., in the meantime and you would have to check for updates after putting it back on, and so forth...
Just sounds like the potential for more headache than what its worth...I just go back to the store and get it if I need to.
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I guess
Going to Amazon is just a Xth layer to restore ... nandroid then titanium then amazon then etc.
But if they keep doing things like giving away Wolfram Alpha (WOW) ... its hard to resist.
Just get the app, you don't have to keep the app. It may come in handy one day.
Just download them but don't install them or download them and the ones you want you can not install them but reinstall them later
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I downloaded and installed them then backed them up with titanium backup. Then if I have no use for them right now I uninstall them and can restore them through TB when needed.
On another note after cursiing the very existance of amazon.mp3 on my phone for the last year I know love it. I got 20 GB free space on amazon cloud for downloading a $4 album and I just got the new R.E.M. album for $4 too. I have 25 GB of my music stored on their cloud server now for free which has freed up a lot of space on my 32 GB card.
I only download the apps I like now, which really arent many. Whats Avinator!? lol
The newest Google Music App has been updated in the market. For those of you that were not watching or could not watch the live event the app stoe (WEB ONLY right now) is also live. You are able to purchase tracks from the music store and share them via Google+ when you share them people can listen to either 1 track you share of the entire album 1 time for free and chose to buy it after the fact.
Also Google Music is no longer invite only and open to everyone. There is no fee attached to this you are still able to upload 20,000 songs of your own and stream them FOR FREE!
<3 Google Music Beta was great I'm glad they have kept this free of charge for streaming and storing music.
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Just to make things a bit more clear you should no longer need to request a Google Music invite I had invites left for the Beta but they have now been removed from my page Google Music should be OPEN and Live to EVERYONE as of Today!
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I was afraid that the upload/streaming service portion of it would be a paid service. Relieved to know that it'll still remain free Say what you want about google but they provide a lot of premium service with absolutely no charge to you (Other than, of course, learning what you like and selling **** to you)
I was using the leaked 4.0.1 music apk, i tried to update and it failed, so i uninstalled the old one, deleted the apk from system/app. Downloaded the new one from market. It installed fine but when I open the app it just flicks a black screen and goes right back to where i started the app from. any ideas?
Did you try clearing the cache and app data at all? I was not using the leaked version since I'm not rooted (I was able to install it but never got it to work since you actually needed root to move things around iirc to get it working.)
I don't see google music being very useful with sprint's network.
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I don't see google music being very useful with sprint's network.
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I stream over 3g all the time with zero issues
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Khilbron said:
I stream over 3g all the time with zero issues
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Same here, I moved from t-mo to sprint because google music pushed me to throttle.
Ok so this has been pissing me off for a very long time and I have done a lot of research and read through a bunch of forums and im still NOWHERE. When you save music to the SD card in google music on our LG optimus G it saves it to /data/data/com.google.android.music/
This is a HORRIBLE place to save music. Every time you wipe data you lose all the music you have downloaded which in my case is upwards of 10 gigs. Not fun to download 10 gigs of music every time i switch roms. I could merely not wipe data, but the problem with that is its then a dirty wipe and ive been doing this long enough to know that dirty wipes don't always go perfectly. So on to the solutions I have tried that have failed:
1.) Use the music+ app made by a user here on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140756
Now this solution seemed to work at first because when you download the music for offline use you can literally store it anywhere. So store it on the simulated sd card and your problems are solved right? wrong. after downloading all the music, wiping your phone flashing a new rom and restore the apk+data with titanium i find out that the app can not see any previously downloaded music that still exists in that folder and thus when you try to download more music, it wipes everything and starts fresh.
2.)Use Directory Bind created by another user on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
now I had some hopes for this one but unfortunately it cannot access data stored in /data/data i dont think it has root permissions, which is the problem
3.) I briefly tried symlinking the data from a different folder (though i may have done it wrong i didn't put my whole heart into the attempt)
this didn't work either (unless i simply did it wrong.)
If anyone has a solution that does actually work I would greatly appreciate hearing about it because its at the point where i hesitate before flashing roms because i dont want to lose all my music.
Also please don't suggest simply putting the music on my phone and using a different player. i have come to find that i need to use google music as not all my music fits on the amount of storage we are given and i inevitably need to stream it sometimes.
Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions. I hope this thread also helps others having the same issues.
Edit: this is interesting. im gonna take a crack at it see if it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842568
I didn't read your whole post because I'm tired, but I do know you can place the music in whatever place you want, and the music application will pull it up.
Edit: also, in my experience, any music I've saved through the music app has stuck through several rom flashes, including EOS and CM.
Tried a few things, including the methods in that last link you posted. I was missing pictures since flashing CM because of the sdcard/0 partition thingy it created. They seem to have come back. Maybe that will fix your music issue.
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outerpip said:
I didn't read your whole post because I'm tired, but I do know you can place the music in whatever place you want, and the music application will pull it up.
Edit: also, in my experience, any music I've saved through the music app has stuck through several rom flashes, including EOS and CM.
Tried a few things, including the methods in that last link you posted. I was missing pictures since flashing CM because of the sdcard/0 partition thingy it created. They seem to have come back. Maybe that will fix your music issue.
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Yeah im kind of hoping that the most recent solution i have found will solve my problem (deleting the nomedia thing) i haven't tried it yet but i would have to use google music+ for this not the regular. you can put your music elsewhere and google music will read it but see i want to have the adaptability of just clicking the save offline music thing to both add music to my offline, and remove music from it. its just convenient. If i had it in a different spot on the sd that wouldn't work.
when you flashed between eos and cm, did you factory reset in between? because if i dont do that the music will stay but i dont want to be constrained that way
There is an app called cloud music importer or something like that. It logs into your Google music account and then allows you to download your music. It stores it in the music folder under cloud music. Google music player will still play it too. The free version of the app only allows 50 downloads. There is an in app purchase that is tied to your Google account so you don't have to keep purchasing it.
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There is an app called cloud music importer or something like that. It logs into your Google music account and then allows you to download your music. It stores it in the music folder under cloud music. Google music player will still play it too. The free version of the app only allows 50 downloads. There is an in app purchase that is tied to your Google account so you don't have to keep purchasing it.
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Good idea but not what im looking for. two apps instead of one. and then the music is separate from the music in the google music app itself. kinda defeats the purpose
EDIT: i might end up giving in and doin this. i have been unsuccessful in just about every way im testing this app out to see how well it works
just realized this cant be my solution because i can't fit all my music on my phone otherwise this would be a good solution
You don't have to download your whole library. Just the albums or playlists that you want. I mainly use it to place music on my phone so zombie run can see it
Edit: I'm totally with you tho and wish it was back to how it was in the beginning instead of just downloading inside the app
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This is truly amazing... I canceled my subscription with Pandora, and now have Google Play All Access.
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Is there commercials and a skip limit?
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Is there commercials and a skip limit?
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nope, update the google play music app and it will give you the chance to subscribe and it gives you details
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Is there commercials and a skip limit?
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No commercials and unlimited skip and a built is eq customizer
Fully ANTHRAXED! !
I'm a rhapsody guy. I'll have to see if there is selective track downloading.
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I just canceled my rhapsody for this. Like rhapsody but much simpler with more tracks available. And cheaper!!!!
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This sounds sick! But my cheap ass is using Pandora lol.. $9.99 isn't bad though.
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I just canceled my rhapsody for this. Like rhapsody but much simpler with more tracks available. And cheaper!!!!
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Well, signed up for the trial. I'll see how it goes. I love the simplicity and functionality of Rhapsody, because I listen to offline albums all the time. If the trial goes well, I'm all over it. 10 devices?! That rocks!
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I'll give it a go too. I do prefer my modded Pandora though.
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I use both still but I prefer this to be honest.
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So you guys convinced me to do the free trial and I must say.. This app is spectacular!! Goodbye Pandora and hello Google All Access. Loving this app.
I like slacker radio... theres no limit..you can get a subscribtion..
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Well, signed up for the trial. I'll see how it goes. I love the simplicity and functionality of Rhapsody, because I listen to offline albums all the time. If the trial goes well, I'm all over it. 10 devices?! That rocks!
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if you sign up before the end of june it will be 7.99 for life. there is a little pin on the artists, albums. its called "pin" thats basically making tracks/albums/artists available offline.
this thing works AMAZING. ive tried spotify, pandora, and loved rhapsody. but this is truly innovative.
if you swipe left from the right of the screen when your streaming a "radio" it lets you peek at the next song. and if you click on the top icon "a list with a music note" it lets you see the entire radio playlist ahead of you. you can delete songs you dont want, and even rearrange the order of songs. you can also replay, and rewind songs your listening to. pandora, rhapsody. bye bye
Really loving this app update. Play Music sucked hard before this; album art and the little progress circle would disappear anytime you closed out the app, crashed for me, just generally not something I'd expect from Google. Now we've got $7.99 a month unlimited streaming with no ads that works on my phone AND through any browser, very nice looking new UI (even if some people aren't feeling the orange), I'm very happy! Spotify Premium might soon be cancelled!
Now if I can get gapless playback to actually work, it'll get that five star rating.
A weird thing I've noticed a couple times is that I'll choose a song to stream, and it'll work, but the audio quality is pretty crappy. To fix, I choose another song and then back to the first one, and voila, good quality. Not sure if it's my gloriously slow Sprint connection or an issue with the app.
I'm on the trial too... Searched for different artist and built a playlist with around 65 songs and now All Access added around 20 more automatically to my queue based on the artist and songs I was listening to.
I was swtiching between Slacker, Spotify and Grooveshark (locked in $3mo introductory)... Can't compare paid services with the first two since the free one gave what I was looking for. But this is basically Grooveshark on steriods! It's a bit tricky to get used to the UI and add songs to queue, tap on the wrong area and it plays that song and deletes your current queue creating a new station based on that artist.
What I don't like so far is the "dancing" album art when in app "listening now", flips side to side although looking at better it seems that the album art is too big and its doing a scroll to show all of it. Find it a bit annoying, but it could be just me :silly: It's missing the Android share feature, apparently it only shares on Google+ and apparenlty you only have that feature if you have the G+ app installed. I don't and the share option is missing, a friend has G+ installed and the option appears for him. Might need further confirmation... I really don't use G+ so I haven't seen the need to install it, barely use FB anyhow.
Would be nice to have the ability to change the theme of the UI, have different options. The orange/white layout is ok, but it's a bit too shocking. Bet some themers are already decompiling this thing and seeing if its possible to change it around :fingers-crossed:
I tested it with my car radio, Pioneer DEH-X9500BHS, with BT and sound output is really good. The display shows artist and track but it didn't show the track time, maybe in the next update.
So far, this is a keeper and good for the $9.99 but even better for the $7.99 introductory fee
Edit - Widget should have dislike or thumbs down button, only has thumbs up...
But all in all this is a great for a new service launch!
Only downside so far is the lack of sd card ability. No problem on my GS3, bit on my kids' Conquers, not so great.
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Only downside so far is the lack of sd card ability. No problem on my GS3, bit on my kids' Conquers, not so great.
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Okay, spoke a little too soon. The ui and functionality for one wanting music "pinned" for off-line listening is not very intuitive. The download speeds are atrocious, which I see has been a Play Music issue for a while. No way to cancel pinning/downloading, and apart from clearing app data, I don't see a way to remove tracks from the phone.
I love the sound quality and the equalizer over Rhapsody. I love having the ability to download to more than 3 devices. I hope that they do some improving during this trial phase, because I like the sound and the principle. Even Rhapsody responding to the competition and improving would be terrific.
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This sounds sick! But my cheap ass is using Pandora lol.. $9.99 isn't bad though.
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Black Pandora is totally free. No commercials and unlimited skips. Just sign in w ur normal Pandora account n all ur channels are there. Pm me for a link.
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Okay, spoke a little too soon. The ui and functionality for one wanting music "pinned" for off-line listening is not very intuitive. The download speeds are atrocious, which I see has been a Play Music issue for a while. No way to cancel pinning/downloading, and apart from clearing app data, I don't see a way to remove tracks from the phone.
I love the sound quality and the equalizer over Rhapsody. I love having the ability to download to more than 3 devices. I hope that they do some improving during this trial phase, because I like the sound and the principle. Even Rhapsody responding to the competition and improving would be terrific.
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I'm downloading a few pinned songs now, very slow indeed!
As for deleting them, there is a clear cache option in settings but my assumption is that it'll delete all the songs you've downloaded or cached during playback. There is an unpin option if you tap the bottom left of the song tile (horizontal ...), try that and see if it removed that particular track. I'll give all that a shot when it finishes downloading, at this rate it'll be tomorrow morning
Nothing but f/c's for me. And it's atrociously ugly. Google effed this app up. Back to the previous version for me... orange and white, what is google thinking? The new gtalk- hangouts is even worse...
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