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I'm looking for a new ROM to use -- I'm currently on CM7, but it always lags a bit and I have to reboot quite often to get different menus to appear that aren't.
I'm looking for something flashy, but still quick and battery-efficient. So far, I have tried MIUI and IncRom, with my favorite so far being IncRom.
Any suggestions?
If you're getting lag on CM7, then its going to be way worse on a sense rom. What CM7 version and kernel are you using? It sounds like you may have an obscene amount of apps installed/running, or something else in your setup must be off. What is your rom installation procedure? I never had lag with CM7 or any issues accessing menus and I don't think my experience is unique.
Personally, I am having really good luck with newtoroot and wdfowty's inc2 roms. Newts is basically stock and wd's inc2 remix has some 3.0 added on top of the 2.1. Both are very good on battery and smooth as well.
I had my Desire for about a year now, and i tried lots of ROM's all from Sense, AOSP to MIUI,
but haven't could decide me of which one i should choose.
I'm not the biggest fan of miui, it's smooth but it's iphonish...
I like lot of the aosp rom's, because of the 'cleanness' and speed.
Sense looks nice but is a bit slow I think, but thats just my opinion.
Have u any suggestions for either a fast sense rom or anything?
I tried most ROM's here on XDA, but i'm always coming back to Oxygen.
300mb+ free space on NAND after system flash ftw. also speed.
Here's my opinions on the different types of roms. MIUI is iphonish yes but it is AOSP and runs really well. Out of the pure AOSP roms, I prefer CM7. The stuff that has been added to it is awesome. It's smooth, stable (avoid the early releases of CM7). Currently though, I am using AceSMod Lite. I found that this AceSMod is a pretty stable and the best battery life rom out of all the Sense roms. I have pretty much tried all roms except the pure Sense 3 roms.
At the end of the day, it's just best to try out all the roms and see which you like the best. There is no "the best" rom out there. They are all different from each other.
More and more Roms, whether they are sense-based, AOSP or MIUI, become very similar, with the main (marginal) differences lie in :
included or excluded apps (especially for Sense roms important: htc bloatware ftw?)
the activity of the developer (-team)
boot flash
hboot layout
Technically most of them use the same kernel (snq anyone?), the same scripts for a2sd (or forks thereof) and such.
So, as you may have noticed already, in the end it's all up to personal preference. I've been trying a lot of roms myself, and usually end up with GingerVillain again.
Why? I like its clean and light set up, the OTA app for upgrading & mods and because I've been running Richard Trip's Roms when defrost was released.
(with included acknowledgement of the CM7 dev team ofc! )
Regarding sense roms, I used SGBS (sense 2.1) for a while and InsertCoin.
AuraxTremeGinger on Oxygenr2 hboot with LauncherPro is the best by far for me. I have sticked with it the longest period of time after flashing all kinds of stuff. It could be a little smoother as it is based on leak, but the stability is epic. So I have created myself fast, reliable ui with lots and lots of space. In your face aosp
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So I have created myself ...
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That's what it's all about in the end: personal user experience with a phone, what's beneath it - sense, aosp, miui, whatever - doesn't matter all that much, as long as it works for you.
Another one here running GingerVillain 2.7
Was the first ROM I tried and loved it from the start. I added Launcher Pro to it the other day because the home screens were a bit sticky, and now it's running lightning fast!
Love the fact that it has the CM7 tweaks in it and LP adds even more options.
So glad I rooted my phone.
Personal preference comes down to it does
Also, many threads of this exact topic there are
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Totally agree with meaple. Except for the fact about sense roms, have not tried any them very long, because I like the cleanness of aosp roms like oxygen and redux. This is why I stay with oxygen at the moment (redux gets since nearly three months). Seems to be perfect for me. Also tried cm7, but it has too much hacks which I do not need.
The ROM changes all the time on my phone. I like Oxygen, Redux and sometimes Sense ROM with Sense removed (eg using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027804). most of the ROM has one or 2 problems which bugs me.
In the end I find I always go back to my plain stock HTC ROM+rooted+A2SD (and no other hacks). It seems to give me the least amounts of issues.
Im using the latest InsertCoin sense rom (1.0.9) and its very smooth and stable.
I've tried them all from MIUI to the AOSP roms and for me anyway this one feels like the complete package.
My favorites are:
Sense: InsertCoin stable hybrid (2.1 + 3.0)
AOSP: Oxygen
MIUI: none (sorry MIUI fans)
I actually cuite like sense roms, it's just that.. i feel like it uses a lot of power even when it's on standby. That is cuite annoying i think.
Right now i'm using Oxygen though.
no matter what ROM I go to, I always go crying back to cyanogenmod ... it's reliability, performance and general features are unbeatable by anything else.. simply the most awesome ROM available
CM(Nightlies) hands down.
Tried a few sense roms, but I actually hated them.
Even when they are cleaned of most of the bloatware,they still feel overloaded to me.
Haven't tried MIUI so far.
Reflex S 2.1.7. with gingerbread by Neophyte
Been using RCmixS until the recent InsertCoin update(1.0.9).. Two of the best sense ROMs available..
Hi all,
The Dev Forum seems to be pretty abundant with Sense-based ROMs at the moment, and I guess that's to be expected with 3.0 being everyone's new(ish) favourite thing, but not all of us are Sense fans and I just wanted to get people's opinions on the current state of play concerning AOSP ROMs and their latest versions, especially around battery life.
What have you used / are you using, and how do the current suite of AOSP ROMs compare with each other in terms of battery life (but other stuff as well)?
I'd love to hear about people's recent experiences.
Thanks.
This rom is the best aosp rom I've used yet. Blazing fast and amazing battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070501
I tried Gingerbeast, HydrogenMod, Hikari, CyanogenMod and Ginger S and I can't seem to get any of them to be 100% fully functional. I've had a problem with bluetooth not working, not being able to import contacts, the home button stops working, com.android.phone force closing, etc. I've full wiped, reinstalled, fixed permissions, etc, but I can't get any AOSP rom to work. Surely there must be a leak of the AOSP rom that HTC use before adding Sense and other HTC addons?
While AOSP roms are light wight and seem fast they will never compare to roms built off of sense roms. Why you ask. Look at the roms like CM7 and other AOSP roms, they have to use open source drivers that dont make full use of the hardware. Like wifi and blue tooth. Both lose 25% strength because of the Open Source drivers instead of using the drivers built for the Phone like the closed source HTC drivers.
Umm, apologies if I've confused myself out of sheer ignorance, but can't you just flash a custom kernel like Lordmod's excellent one, which DOES contain official DHD phone drivers?
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Umm, apologies if I've confused myself out of sheer ignorance, but can't you just flash a custom kernel like Lordmod's excellent one, which DOES contain official DHD phone drivers?
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Sense based kernels will not work on an AOSP roms
LM is a aosp kernel.
i don't see any problems with pretty much all of the AOSP kernels i have used (Most CM based ones, quite a few Miui Ones, and the default CM7). The Wifi and BT work, gaming is pretty good, and its also much less laggy (Sense based roms occasionally freeze for no reason. Its annoying with music playing)
The only thing i dislike about AOSP roms is the camera which doesnt have touch to focus video recording, but pretty much every other sense feature can be replaced by a free, custom app (LauncherPro is much better than rosie 3.0/.5, custom video players play more movies, etc.)
you could always flash a sense/rosie/app remover on top of a sense based rom
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LM is a aosp kernel.
i don't see any problems with pretty much all of the AOSP kernels i have used (Most CM based ones, quite a few Miui Ones, and the default CM7). The Wifi and BT work, gaming is pretty good, and its also much less laggy (Sense based roms occasionally freeze for no reason. Its annoying with music playing)
The only thing i dislike about AOSP roms is the camera which doesnt have touch to focus video recording, but pretty much every other sense feature can be replaced by a free, custom app (LauncherPro is much better than rosie 3.0/.5, custom video players play more movies, etc.)
you could always flash a sense/rosie/app remover on top of a sense based rom
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Unless you needed to connect to a spicific type of network or need BT to work a certain way you wouldn't notice it.
zelendel said:
While AOSP roms are light wight and seem fast they will never compare to roms built off of sense roms. Why you ask. Look at the roms like CM7 and other AOSP roms, they have to use open source drivers that dont make full use of the hardware. Like wifi and blue tooth. Both lose 25% strength because of the Open Source drivers instead of using the drivers built for the Phone like the closed source HTC drivers.
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Yeah, not sure about that 25% statement, mate.
I've been running CM7 Nightlies or CM-based ROMS for a while now and, if anything, I've noticed a significant improvement in connectivity (in general) from what I previously experienced on Sense ROMs. I'm sure that Lord Clockan's excellent kernels have a lot to do with it, but anyway...
I suppose everyone's experience is different.
Hy,
I am also a HUGE fan of AOSP. Since I bought my DHD it had Sense for one day because I had no time to flash. I also spent some time comparing Sense vs. AOSP Roms, and can say that AOSP has better performance on my DHD then Sense and always used them with the kernel they come with.
Aosp all the way. My recommended roms:
Oxygen Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348425
TalonRom:
http://code.google.com/p/talon-rom/
OMFGB:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/6052-aospcustom-gingerbreadomfgb-131-nightlies/
OMGB:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/7923-rompure-gingerbreadomgb-123237/
All are my personal favorites.
Regards
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All are my personal favorites.
Regards
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Hmm Not sure that makes sense!
I was just wondering what are the lightest (as in space), smoothest yet good looking roms out there.
Personally, can't go wrong with CM7. Xplod by Team Nocturnal, also AOSP, is a great rom. If you want small [as in space] then you will want AOSP, as sense roms are always bigger.
Yeah aosp for sure, salvagemod,cm like Roxx said etc. These are all pretty light rom's.
Sent from my nike hating evo!
Small+smooth+good looking=MIUI
I personally love aosp aswell but everytime i flash one, my wimax doesnt go as fast as with sense roms... If it wasnt for that, id most def. Be on cm7
nExVsO
Try Deck and then flash the Savage Zen BFS HAVS kernel. The Rom is based on CM7 but with all the bling that CM ads removed. The savage zen kernel gave me disgustingly good battery life. The whole Rom as is, is under 80mb. Can't get much lighter than that. sz kernel should resolve your wimax speed issue too. I notice that 4G always seemed slower on CM's kernel (which is what most of the AOSP roms use, including Miui). SZ's kernel fixed a lot of little things like that.
O cool thnx man, does sz kernel support hdmi also?
You've got great information above. AOSP is always smaller, lighter. I'm using kushdeck's gingerbread-evo-deck 1.3d (GB v2.3.5), which is built on a solid Cyanogenmod base. It's technically still a beta of GB v2.3.5, but I have as yet to have any issue with it. Plus, if like me you like the stock Vicual Voice Mail, use the ed-gapps with vm. Note that CM did this first and has this available also.
Both the SZ and Tiamat kernels support HDMwIn, have sbc versions available, etc. I find that the latest Tiamat 4.0.8 kernel works the best for me overall but of course your phone may feel otherwise.
Oh, a nice trick if you have issues with Wifi, Wimax or GPS after flashing an AOSP ROM. Once your ROM is built, make a nand backup of it. Now, flash one of the rooted stock ROMs (I use virus's 453.651.1). Once its flashed and you boot up, immediately reboot into recovery and restore your backup of your favorite AOSP ROM. This works because some drivers (like the GPS driver) are or can be changed/updated during a flash, but are not during a restore.
This has fixed non-functioning & poorly functioning GPS for many (including me), fixed wifi issues for some, and a few say that it improved their wimax speeds. If you're experiencing any of those issues, it only costs a few minutes of your time to find out, but of course that's your decision.
Anyway, I hope that the info is useful. Thank you for your time.
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+1 on MIUI
Shooter 3D pretty good
with chopsuey 9.2.6
Greetings -
Over the past few months, I have enjoyed flashing ROMs. However, I can't find anything that is a "fit" for me. I welcome your suggestions.
(tl;dr included at bottom)
I started with the various Virtuous Unity builds. Virtuous Team has excellent work - everything is very polished and complete. However, Sense started to slow down/get on my nerves, I began to toy around with MIUI. First impressions were amazing, then the Chinese got in the way. I experimented with using GO Launcher EX, as well as ADW on top of MIUI...but I just did not find that MIUI was a fit for me.
I moved back to Virtuous.
Then Aerovan / Touchpro / Team KANG ICS ROMs became functional. I must say, I am anxiously awaiting a fully working (and customized) ICS build. However, I eventually had to move to something else to use as daily, as fully functional camera and non-crashing apps were a must.
Currently I am on CM7 (7.2 KANG).
Once again, credits to CyanogenMod - very simple, clean, and lite ROM. However, there are some things that I don't particularly love in AOSP Gingerbread. I've played around with ADW, Zeam, and Lightning Launcher, and while providing a very fast and basic functional experience, I am missing some of the convenient features offered in Sense and ICS ROMs.
tl;dr?
Ran Virtuous, MIUI, ICS, and CM7 ROMs. Wanting something new. Suggestions?
Sense ROMs, AOSP, anything and everything open.
Also, links to similar threads are welcome.
Kindest regards,
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Idk man I hate how heavy sense is, although the cam is BEAST. I'm on a 7.2cm kang as well and I love it. If you want an ics rom go aeroevans latest video doesn't work though but front can does (somewhat lol) and the market is jankety (fixable be killall drmserver in terminal emulator
I liked incredible HD over on the mik mik, its sense 3.5, the newer incarnation mik runny didn't seem as fast to me, and sabatoge sense based on the ota, its sense 2.1 with 3.0 parts built in, its here under development, both rooms are fully functional, fast, and as far as I could tell after running for a good while, bug free. Those are my sense picks. Right now I'm running an aosp rom, liquid 3.2, its highly customizable and has a built in theme Chooser, I think its faster and more customizable than cm7, and once again bug free, I love it, its ultra fast, and I use ex contacts, its a lot like sense contacts, you know, you can use the dial pad to type someones name and it will bring them up to call them, one of my favorite features about sense, you can also choose from all kinds of lock screens including sense, and there are the sense clock Widgets available on the market, yet you'll have the speed of aosp, I use launcher pro, fastest I've found of all the ones I've tried, there is also a built in over clock function in the settings, you can find this rom over on rootzwiki, hope this informed and helped you.
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I'm in the same position as you man. I rooted as soon as AlpharevX put out rev for our phone, and since then ran MIUI, then about 3 months ago i switched to Virtuous. I love allot about sense but also hate too much to use it as a daily. Ive played with all 3 ICS roms out there, and in my opinion Aero's is by far the best in my opinion. It works great minus the finicky camera. his latest build the only things not so great are the cam, YouTube, and the internal mic isn't so great. but the market problem is fixed by a simple one time reboot. the Dinc2 just isn't shown enough love is all, and its sad.