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desire or nexus one?

Should I buy the desire or nexus one? or wait for something new?(dont know when that would be)
i kind of want to know how the optical trackball works...i am using the xperia which has an optical tackpad and its useless...would the trackball from nexus one be better or useless?
and D1 video...dont get the point of it

I'm willing to bet all of us here in the Desire forum section will tell you to get the Desire.
You're better off looking at all the reviews and make up your own mind.
See the following stickied thread for reviews!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652893

ohyeahar said:
I'm willing to bet all of us here in the Desire forum section will tell you to get the Desire.
You're better off looking at all the reviews and make up your own mind.
See the following stickied thread for reviews!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652893
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posted here because it would help me side with the desire
i really like the sense ui

numba1guju said:
posted here because it would help me side with the desire
i really like the sense ui
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i have both an x1 and desire. easily go for the desire
much better than x1 in every aspect.
maybe this ll help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671363&highlight=recommend

I think the specs on the desire and the N1 are almost exactly the same, besides the noise cancelling, BT version and the RAM. But on the other hand, the desire needs a little bit more ram due to the sense UI.
I think sense ui is starting to get useless since android has got many sens ui-features already built in since 2.1

I don't know whether to swap desire for a nexus or not. Id love color notifications, it has charging points and also I keep getting crumbs between my keys lol
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I actually have both phones. Haven't had the Desire long enough for a full comparison, however, I would say that it depends on what you want out of your device.
If you want ultimate customisation with lots of different ROMs and hacks and stuff, flashing it all the time and playing with the latest stuff, and you are prepared to put up with the odd thing not working - if only for brief periods - then I would say the Nexus is better.
If you just want a device to work and to look good in the process, then the Desire is probably better, especially if running the absolute latest software is not something that is important for you.
They are so similar but:
Call quality is better on the Nexus marginally
I prefer the physical trackball to the optical one - I like the feel of it and the multi-coloured lights!
Sense is fantastic, but stock Android can do it all with a few apps. On my Desire I have far fewer apps installed as HTC provide so much
The Nexus is slightly lighter
I think the Desire looks sleeker and feels nicer in the hand, but that is just my opinion
The Desire doesn't come with a neoprene sleeve!
Feel free to ask if there is something specific you want to know.

Lol i have a desire and iphone 3gs, do you think I should sell iphone and buy a nexus?
Irony is,i had a nexus but sold because I was skint! Now I miss cynoagen roms etc
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The Jones said:
I actually have both phones. Haven't had the Desire long enough for a full comparison, however, I would say that it depends on what you want out of your device.
If you want ultimate customisation with lots of different ROMs and hacks and stuff, flashing it all the time and playing with the latest stuff, and you are prepared to put up with the odd thing not working - if only for brief periods - then I would say the Nexus is better.
If you just want a device to work and to look good in the process, then the Desire is probably better, especially if running the absolute latest software is not something that is important for you.
They are so similar but:
Call quality is better on the Nexus marginally
I prefer the physical trackball to the optical one - I like the feel of it and the multi-coloured lights!
Sense is fantastic, but stock Android can do it all with a few apps. On my Desire I have far fewer apps installed as HTC provide so much
The Nexus is slightly lighter
I think the Desire looks sleeker and feels nicer in the hand, but that is just my opinion
The Desire doesn't come with a neoprene sleeve!
Feel free to ask if there is something specific you want to know.
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wow thanks for taking your time to write this up...i guess im going to research a little more...or just get both and try em out...whatever i dont like ill hand off to my little sister haha
all i really want is HTC to make a nexus one thin full qwerty slideout but thats a dream

i used to have a N1, first i have been very satisfied, but as i am not anymore in my mid 30 i had problems reading mails etc, as you can NOT change the font size on the N1.....I bought the Desire and it is perfect....change font size etc....great tool....just love it.

numba1guju said:
all i really want is HTC to make a nexus one thin full qwerty slideout but thats a dream
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Motorola Driod/Milestone?

I'd go for the N1 (me and my gf have a desire) because of the faster updates and HTC crippled Android imo.

Im gonna sell my 3gs and get a nexus one.. keep both lol.
But i fancy nexus again because the colour trackball, cynoagen mods with cm updater, the kernel source is out which means you can use setcpu etc. full write access which we dont have on the desire yet.
And surely froyo will be easier to import on the nexus?

Oh and also you can install the recovery rom on flash!! which means you dont need a computer to flash roms.. well you didnt when i had one... i used to change roms at uni.. was so cool

The Jones said:
I actually have both phones. Haven't had the Desire long enough for a full comparison, however, I would say that it depends on what you want out of your device.
If you want ultimate customisation with lots of different ROMs and hacks and stuff, flashing it all the time and playing with the latest stuff, and you are prepared to put up with the odd thing not working - if only for brief periods - then I would say the Nexus is better.
If you just want a device to work and to look good in the process, then the Desire is probably better, especially if running the absolute latest software is not something that is important for you.
They are so similar but:
Call quality is better on the Nexus marginally
I prefer the physical trackball to the optical one - I like the feel of it and the multi-coloured lights!
Sense is fantastic, but stock Android can do it all with a few apps. On my Desire I have far fewer apps installed as HTC provide so much
The Nexus is slightly lighter
I think the Desire looks sleeker and feels nicer in the hand, but that is just my opinion
The Desire doesn't come with a neoprene sleeve!
Feel free to ask if there is something specific you want to know.
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Which one do you use as your main phone?

Guitarfreak26 said:
Which one do you use as your main phone?
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I have had the Nexus One since the first batch shipped to the UK back in Feb I think it was. I have had the Desire for 5 days! I am currently using the Desire as my main device as a test and will do so for a minimum of 2 weeks.
I am evaluating it for my company as an alternative to the Nokia E62 and HTC Touch HD2.

Most reviews suggest that the physical buttons on the Desire are better than the capacitive "touch" buttons on the Nexus One.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Most reviews suggest that the physical buttons on the Desire are better than the capacitive "touch" buttons on the Nexus One.
Regards,
Dave
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The physical buttons are nicer to use. The layout of the buttons on the N1 is better I think

numba1guju said:
Should I buy the desire or nexus one? or wait for something new?(dont know when that would be)
i kind of want to know how the optical trackball works...i am using the xperia which has an optical tackpad and its useless...would the trackball from nexus one be better or useless?
and D1 video...dont get the point of it
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Trackball is much better than optical trackpad. On the other hand, real buttons are much better than sensor buttons.
Other than that: Sense or not Sense? That is the question - if you don't do much ROM flashing and stuff that is (cause then the Nexus is better - and it will get the official Android 2.2 earlier).

I personally never use the trackpad. Why would you need to anyway?
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the perfect phone?

as much as i love my desire, i saw this and am incredibly tempted.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/19/caveat-emptor-custom-android-handsets-all-the-rage-in-germany/
4inch super amoled, 1gb ram, 32gb storage, 12 meg cam, tv, android 2.2. how easy does anyone think it will be to get upgrades is my only question when gingerbread comes around?

mintvilla said:
as much as i love my desire, i saw this and am incredibly tempted.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/19/caveat-emptor-custom-android-handsets-all-the-rage-in-germany/
4inch super amoled, 1gb ram, 32gb storage, 12 meg cam, tv, android 2.2. how easy does anyone think it will be to get upgrades is my only question when gingerbread comes around?
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Lol, I want one as well, it'll be useful as a backup phone I'd say

It looks really nice. But WVGA lets it down. A lot.
Prefer my Desire tbh.
Sent from my HTC Desire

GANJDROID said:
It looks really nice. But WVGA lets it down. A lot.
Prefer my Desire tbh.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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How in the world does WVGA let it down, when your Desire has the exact same WVGA resolution?

kekkle said:
How in the world does WVGA let it down, when your Desire has the exact same WVGA resolution?
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Yeah, I made a balls up with that I'd only just woken up without any coffee
Sent from my HTC Desire

[Q] Should I buy the HTC Desire Z or a newer phone?

I have the HTC Wildfire S but I am thinking of buying the Desire Z because the screen on my phone is too small to text! The buttons are so small. I have tried the Desire Z and like the physical keyboard. But I'm not sure if it's good enough for fast typing?
But maybe since newer android phones are bigger it would be just as easy to type on an on screen keyboard just as a physical keyboard? They don't make many physical keyboard anyway nowadays. I would like an HTC or Samsung.
So should I get the HTC Desire Z, or get a newer HTC phone with just an on screen keyboard?
How good is the physical keyboard?
How good is the on screen portrait keyboard?
how good is the on screen landscape keyboard?
Thanks

The screen on the Z isn't that much bigger, so I don't know if you'd be able to type any better/faster on the screen than the Wildfire S. But the physical keyboard is very good. Not actually as good as older HTC phones, like the Touch Pro 2. The keys could stand to protrude a bit more, and press down farther. And the lack of dedicated number row is also a step backward. But still very good compared to keyboard from other manufacturers. Typing is definitely faster on the Z's physical keyboard than on the virtual keyboard, and probably rivals or beats virtual keyboards on bigger screened phones.
Have you tried the Swype keyboard on your Wildfire S? I pretty much can't stand typing on-screen without Swype, which makes it more bearable. Get Swype by going to their website and signing up for the beta:
http://beta.swype.com/
As for opinions on whether to buy the Z or not, there is another recent thread, with plenty of responses/opinions for you to consider:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566749

redpoint73 said:
The screen on the Z isn't that much bigger, so I don't know if you'd be able to type any better/faster on the screen than the Wildfire S. But the physical keyboard is very good. Not actually as good as older HTC phones, like the Touch Pro 2. The keys could stand to protrude a bit more, and press down farther. And the lack of dedicated number row is also a step backward. But still very good compared to keyboard from other manufacturers. Typing is definitely faster on the Z's physical keyboard than on the virtual keyboard, and probably rivals or beats virtual keyboards on bigger screened phones.
Have you tried the Swype keyboard on your Wildfire S? I pretty much can't stand typing on-screen without Swype, which makes it more bearable. Get Swype by going to their website and signing up for the beta:
http://beta.swype.com/
As for opinions on whether to buy the Z or not, there is another recent thread, with plenty of responses/opinions for you to consider:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566749
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I have already read that thread. I'm still unsure. It the Desire Z fast? Also, how are the on screen keyboards? Is the an on screen landscape keyboard?
By the way, my Wildfire S does not have Swype

Dolphin2 said:
I have already read that thread. I'm still unsure. It the Desire Z fast? Also, how are the on screen keyboards? Is the an on screen landscape keyboard?
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Define "fast". Its a phone that is about a year and a half old. Its acceptable for most tasks. And with the right ROM and overclocking, it can be made to perform smoother. But its starting to show its age versus the 1.5 GHz multicore flagship phones coming out now. And the One X looks like it may redefine tasks and blow away even the phone currently on the market.
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Also, how are the on screen keyboards? Is the an on screen landscape keyboard?
By the way, my Wildfire S does not have Swype
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Well, I've already mentioned that I have to use Swype, otherwise screen keyboards drive me crazy. And I'm on CM7 right now, so I can't tell you much about the stock Sense screen keyboard. It works well enough, from the times I've used it. But I tend to make lots of typos on this size screen.
If you mean that the Wildfire S is not supported by the Swype beta, then there are plenty of similar apps available. Or more recent HTC firmware (and custom ROMs) contains HTC Trace, which is their Swype clone.

You have 2 choices get a galaxy nexus or wait it out til HTC announces a qwerty device whenever that may be.

Vision is really fun to upgrade it and change roms and the other things... Its fun to wait for those fully working ICS roms, to dream about stable sense 4.0 roms, flash kernels, radios, mods... If I would buy a Nexus, it wouldnt be such a great experience. I would just download some apps and maybe root it...
Anyway Im very satisfied with Vision and I will change it only, when it gets really weak behind the newest devices. Kinda like wildfire now... Not the wildfire S
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Dolphin2 said:
How good is the physical keyboard?
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Physical keyboard is for me very good, no typo errors when typing, big enough. And with beta.swpe.com I use, it is for me sufficiently good combination for daily drive.

tarroyo said:
You have 2 choices get a galaxy nexus or wait it out til HTC announces a qwerty device whenever that may be.
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Why do you say there are only 2 choices? The HTC One X looks to blow away the Galaxy Nexus in terms of CPU speed, and will be released in most markets in April/May.. And the Galaxy S3 is probably going to be announced/unveiled at some point in the next few months. And that is if you are recommending the absolute top performing phones. There are plenty of other existing phones on the market that would also meet the OP's needs.

redpoint73 said:
Why do you say there are only 2 choices? The HTC One X looks to blow away the Galaxy Nexus in terms of CPU speed, and will be released in most markets in April/May.. And the Galaxy S3 is probably going to be announced/unveiled at some point in the next few months. And that is if you are recommending the absolute top performing phones. There are plenty of other existing phones on the market that would also meet the OP's needs.
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I'm also on a bit of a budget. In Canada (where I live), Bell does not longer sell the Derise Z. I found one being sold online for $200 in my area. I will either buy the Desire Z or get something like the HTC One X once my contract is up in 2 years. Also, I was looking at the Samsung Captivate Glide as a very good up to date phone with a physical keyboard.

redpoint73 said:
Why do you say there are only 2 choices? The HTC One X looks to blow away the Galaxy Nexus in terms of CPU speed, and will be released in most markets in April/May.. And the Galaxy S3 is probably going to be announced/unveiled at some point in the next few months. And that is if you are recommending the absolute top performing phones. There are plenty of other existing phones on the market that would also meet the OP's needs.
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Reason I said that is because One X comes with sense preinstalled, Our vision devices did not.

For me I think if u r going to mainly use the phone to send emails, sms .... Desire z is the best choice to go with. If ur focus is on browsing, games,music I think u should go with a newer version like htc one
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I love my g2. It's much easier to send thoughtful emails/texts than any other phone out there. The hercules is the obvious replacement phone at the moment, though.Rocking em both.
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TehHector said:
For me I think if u r going to mainly use the phone to send emails, sms .... Desire z is the best choice to go with. If ur focus is on browsing, games,music I think u should go with a newer version like htc one
Sent from my HTC Desire Z A7272 using XDA
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My main use is for sending emails and SMS.

Buy it if you like to type much and in a comfortable way
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Reason I said that is because One X comes with sense preinstalled, Our vision devices did not.
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As your Vision didn't come with Sense: did you buy it as a G2? I've read that they just feature the stock Android interface. Anyways, my Desire Z had Sense preinstalled.
To answer the OP's questions:
Dolphin2 said:
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So should I get the HTC Desire Z, or get a newer HTC phone with just an on screen keyboard?
How good is the physical keyboard?
How good is the on screen portrait keyboard?
how good is the on screen landscape keyboard?
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1st question: The only on-screen keyboard I can imagine to reach half the typing comfort of the Desire Z's physical keyboard is the Galaxy Note's one. But to lead to the
2nd question: The physical keyboard is quite comfortable and the keys are perfectly arranged for my (medium sized) hands.
3rd question: If you mean the Desire Z's on-screen keyboard - install a different one! The stock Sense keyboard is quite slow compared to the stock Android one. I also prefer Swype for daily use but the Sense one is definitely not optimal. If it comes to typing comfort itself - the on-screen keyboard is good for one-hand typing if you really have to or are just too lazy to "slide" out the physical keyboard.
4th question: If you mean the Desire Z's on-screen keyboard - one-hand typing -> portrait on-screen keyboard | two-hand typing -> physical keyboard (no need to use a landscape on-screen keyboard )

As much as I love my Desire Z, I can definitely tell it's getting dated.
If possible, I would suggest you find a phone with perhaps a bigger screen (for your typing/texting needs) and with a newer processor. With some more intensive tasks or games, the desire Z definitely shows its age.
Although, I understand that you have a budget, and if you cannot find something dual core, you are probably very well off with a Desire Z.

N4n45h1 said:
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With some more intensive tasks or games, the desire Z definitely shows its age.
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That's true but
Dolphin2 said:
My main use is for sending emails and SMS.
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So I think that the OP will not have much of a problem with performance
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

The keyboard is very easy to use. I have my phone ever since it first came out in the US. I have used the phone so much I can text with it without looking at the keyboard.

TpmKranz said:
As your Vision didn't come with Sense: did you buy it as a G2? I've read that they just feature the stock Android interface. Anyways, my Desire Z had Sense preinstalled.
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I did, In the U.S our Vision devices are stock android.

The HTC One X looks very nice and I can imagine that it will be touting a hefty price tag when available. I currently have a G2 which I am very pleased with, for the most part. Typing emails and text is very fluid and fast but I am asking for more (especially for browsing and gaming).
I guess I need to start saving my pennies.

[OFFTOPIC]Why the HTC Wildfire S is so much better than the HTC One

I know what you guys are thinking:
random person said:
He's lost his head.
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To be totally honest I haven't. Credits to phonearena.
Weight
HTC One: 143g (so damn heavy!)
HTC Wildfire S: 105g (light as a feather!)
The One is more suited to those who prefer to lift weights. So a person could easily drop it. This is not a problem with the Wildfire S. So light it will break only by hitting the ceiling.
Colours
HTC One: Black, Red and White (dull)
HTC Wildfire S: Pink and Gray (MY EYES!)
The One's colours are a bit EMO. They seem to be supporting Tobuscus's intro. Whereas the Wildfire S has pink for the girls and Gray for the boys. WOW!
Screen size and resolution
HTC One: 4.7 inches, 1080 x1920 pixels, 468ppi (I can't fit it in my hand and when I look at it my eyes dry out.)
HTC Wildfire S: 3.2 inches, 320x480 pixels, 180ppi (Perfect)
The One is huge. Not as big as the Samsung Galaxy Mega but still huge. This makes it hard to hold and easy to drop. It also won't stay in your pocket. The Wildfire S is amazing. Fits in your hand perfectly. It may also get lost in your pocket. Also who need that many ppi. It just gets a bit confusing. 180 is a nice round number. I mean 468? I can't even count up to there.
Battery
HTC One: 2300 mAh (yawn)
HTC Wildfire S: 3500 mAh (never runs out)
The One is crap. The Wildfire S comes with quite a low battery (1230mAh) but can be upgraded to an extended battery pack. Extreme!
Graphics
HTC One: Adreno 320 (hmm)
HTC Wildfire S: Adreno 200 (hmmm)
To be honest Adreno is just a number so buy the Wildfire S anyway!
Storage
HTC One: 26GB (too much if you ask me)
HTC Wildfire S: 150MB (2GB with partition)
What's the matter with you HTC!? Why that much goddamn space. Apps aren't that big! But the Wildfire S is perfect with it's size and size adjustability.
Camera
HTC One: 4MP (not bad)
HTC Wildfire S: 5MP (amazing)
Why? WHY!? As you can see the HTC Wildfire S has a much better camera. By 1 whole MP in fact. Now that's impressive.
HTC nerd said:
What about Ultrapixel?
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thehacka1 said:
Shut up you.
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Sim type
HTC One: Micro-sim (tiny)
HTC Wildfire S: Sim (the right size)
Go for the HTC Wildfire S if you don't want to lose your sim so often.
Overall rating
HTC One: Not so good
HTC Wildfire S: Goddamn amazing! Yeah!
FAQ
HTC nerd said:
The HTC One has Sense 5.
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The HTC Wildfire S has Sense 2.1.
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HTC have big plans for the One.
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We have big plans for the Wildfire S.
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HTC One is the best.
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Get out of my thread.
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Hope you guys enjoyed this thread.

This is just to cheer people up right??? To be true the device you own seems to be the best in the world
What I am writing is not to offend you but to just remind you how good HTC has become since they developed the Wildfire S
This is just a short rundown since I have played a bit with the HTC One
1.Weight
Even tough the Wildfire S is lighter,it feels heavier than the HTC One.......It actually a psychological thing,because of it's sleek looks and build
2.Colour
That's actually a personal opinion,I don't mind the colours the One comes in...But more options won't hurt actually :laugh:
3.Screen Size & Resolution
Everybody has different opinions......My Ideal size is 4.3"(Exactly as the One Mini ) And the resolution of our WFS is absolutely great for it's size
4.Battery
A removable battery is always a plus,but for a brilliant design like the One...this was a worthy sacrifice
5.Graphics
The HTC One wins hands down....but Adreno 200 is no slouch either,with the right CPU settings you can play a lot of games....but HD games is still out of question for our phone
6.Storage Size
This definitely depends on what you do with it......if you are a music or a movie junkie,no storage would be enough for you......But if you don't store much,anything works
7.Camera
Megapixels don't matter.....sometimes even 8MP cameras are crappier than our 5MP ones....It depends on the quality of the camera
8.SIM
Someday or the other the Micro SIMs are gonna be the default size in the phones...The SIMs we use in the WFS are called Mini-SIMs,which would mean the original SIM cards were even bigger
9.Bottom Line
The Wildfire S was the best budget phone at it's launch......It was all I wanted when I bought and still does a hell of a job
But alas,every phone has it's life......it can run Android 4.2 very smoothly,but we do not have any guarantee of it running future versions of Android,If only it had an ARMv7 processor
It's a good thread nonetheless,it just tells us to appreciate our legendary phones because of which a majority of us entered the android scene
LONG LIVE THE WFS!!! :good:

LOL. I meant this thread to be a joke. I made it just for fun so people could have a laugh.

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LOL. I meant this thread to be a joke. I made it just for fun so people could have a laugh.
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Don't worry about that.......I was just in a serious mood at that time :laugh:

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6 years later...and we still have no decent replacement for the Desire Z

Sad times...sad times...

I see this place is also RIP.

riahc3 said:
Sad times...sad times...
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How do you define "decent replacement"? I definitely missed having a QWERTY keyboard when I used a full touch device after my Desire Z died, but I've been using the BlackBerry Priv for the past 7 months and it's great. Didn't think I'd like a portrait slider, but at 5.4" screen size I'd say it's the better solution, the keyboard is maybe even better than DZ's plus it's capacitive and allows scrolling, various gestures while typing etc. Can't be rooted, but thankfully BB runs nearly stock Android so I'm also very happy software-wise.
There's also the newly announced candybar BlackBerry KEYone.

RIP G2 forums
HTC needs to step it up with a reboot of the Desire Z/G2

Flippy125 said:
RIP G2 forums
HTC needs to step it up with a reboot of the Desire Z/G2
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I was hoping that HTC would do that for quite some time, but they don't exactly seem interested. If you need or want a physical keyboard and Android, BlackBerry is your best bet.
There's also this, but a 5.5" landscape slider seems like a silly idea IMO.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-mod-a-physical-keyboard-for-the-moto-z#/