OK, check this out. I rooted my Incredible, and I had problem after problem with rooting because of what I THOUGHT was an SLCD issue (I lost all function of my touch screen whenever I flashed a ROM or kernel, even if they were compatible with both screens). After 3 days I finally found a combination that worked.
My husband wanted me to root his phone, and I wanted to physically see the difference in speed between rooted and stock while doing a Web search. Well, when I put the two side by side while on Google, there was a blatantly obvious difference in the screen color. My screen had a pink tint and his was crispy white, to the point that it almost hurts the eye to stare at.
So, I downloaded the "mirror" app (which is just a black screen that shows your reflection) and yep, sure enough, I had a bit of brightness on mine, and his was just black as night.
Both of our phones had the 003 under hardware, which is suppose to mean the screen is SLCD, but mine is clearly AMOLED.
I am thinking, since they were both refurbs sent as replacements, that I got a phone that was originally produced with an SLCD screen but it got replaced with an AMOLED.
Could this be the reason that when I flashed a ROM I had no touch screen function? Could there have been an incompatibility issue between the original hardware and the replaced screen that got triggered by trying to flash a ROM?
This is kind of blowing my mind right now...
Interesting twist..
I'd think that just after rooting & first reboot to recovery of first (your?) DInc, whether or not you saw CWM would indicate screen type.
On the other hand, that variable is complicated by which Unrevoked version was used - SLCD had no recovery built into Unrevoked until recently.
Curious to know how this shakes out.
I may be mistaken but
AMOLED screens give a grayish hue not pink due to blacks being their true color, just like slcds true color is white so their blacks are gray
So that being his would be black as night due to it being Amoled and true blacks
While yours is slcd because its grayish
A better way to test is to find a vibrant picture to compare, and yes this is obvious
The phone that has a duller yet clearer picture is SLCD
The phone that has the.more vibrant picture is Amoled
And its to my understanding that if u mix up sense/aosp kernels the one function you lose is touch so maybe u mixed up the wrong kernel
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smtom said:
Interesting twist..
I'd think that just after rooting & first reboot to recovery of first (your?) DInc, whether or not you saw CWM would indicate screen type.
On the other hand, that variable is complicated by which Unrevoked version was used - SLCD had no recovery built into Unrevoked until recently.
Curious to know how this shakes out.
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I used unrevoked 3, which is suppose to be compatible with both... although I got lazy once and tried to flash a ROM through ROM manager. It prompted me to install clockwork, and I read that no issues were had doing that, so I did it... and of course I got the black screen /white lines. I had to update my recovery image through hboot. This tells me I have an slcd, which confuses me all the more... not unless I am confused, and my husband is the one with the amoled screen. Either way, it is strange because there is an obvious difference in screen appearance, but both hardware versions say 003.
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I may be mistaken but
AMOLED screens give a grayish hue not pink due to blacks being their true color, just like slcds true color is white so their blacks are grey
And its to my understanding that if u mix up sense/aosp kernels the one function you lose is touch so maybe u mixed up the wrong kernel
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That is what is so confusing. The white on my screen has a washed out /dirty appearance next to his, and yet his screen was black black and mine had a dark gray /purplish hue when looking at an all black screen.... yet I had the black screen /white lines when I "updated" clockwork. This plus the loss of screen function tells me for sure that I have slcd, but the display /colors tell a different story.
Like you said, amoled whites are washed out, and slcd blacks are grayish, yet my screen displays both properties.
I wish this was something I could capture properly on camera...
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That is what is so confusing. The white on my screen has a washed out /dirty appearance next to his, and yet his screen was black black and mine had a dark gray /purplish hue when looking at an all black screen.... yet I had the black screen /white lines when I "updated" clockwork. This plus the loss of screen function tells me for sure that I have slcd, but the display /colors tell a different story.
Like you said, amoled whites are washed out, and slcd blacks are grayish, yet my screen displays both properties.
I wish this was something I could capture properly on camera...
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Maybe some Chinese knockoff found its way to the refurbished line
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Lol probably ... that is my luck with all things tech lately.
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Lol probably ... that is my luck with all things tech lately.
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I'm sure if u complain enough about the picture they will happily give u a new one
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hey guys, I just got my Desire (loving it).
I got it without it's box. I know it's probably a stupid question, but I did a search on this, couldn't find an answer. How can I tell whether its SLCD or AMOLED?
my HBOOT version is 0.83, I noticed most SLCDs come with this version or 0.92, but its not enough for me to tell.
Any idea?
Thanks
hey, there is one way to check, the slcd screens use backlight which remains on when the screen is on. if you get a complete black picture, pure black picture, on the amoled it should look like the screen is off but if u got the slcd you can still see the backlight behind the lcd.
hope this isnt a stupid answer
still new to all this
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hey guys, I just got my Desire (loving it).
I got it without it's box. I know it's probably a stupid question, but I did a search on this, couldn't find an answer. How can I tell whether its SLCD or AMOLED?
my HBOOT version is 0.83, I noticed most SLCDs come with this version or 0.92, but its not enough for me to tell.
Any idea?
Thanks
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http://antondnagy.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/how-to-tell-if-your-htc-desire-has-slcd-or-amoled-screen/
thanks guys!
I'll tried to see how the screen is in total darkness (camera) still it wasn't really clear as it seems dark enough for me, no grayish stuff. However, I'll try to magnifier thing posted in the link above tomorrow.
Many thanks!
The Amoled screen will have matrix of visible dots about an 1/8 to a 1/4 inch apart on the unpowered screen if viewed at the right angle. The SLCD does not. How do I know ? I bought the 3rd one sold at the store on release day and just bought 2 more a week ago. They are different.
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hey, there is one way to check, the slcd screens use backlight which remains on when the screen is on. if you get a complete black picture, pure black picture, on the amoled it should look like the screen is off but if u got the slcd you can still see the backlight behind the lcd.
hope this isnt a stupid answer
still new to all this
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no it's the best way to check
Also you can simply look at the keyboard. If all the letters are perfectly clear, its an slcd. If it looks as if its an lower resolution and unclear you have the amoled
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Mine is slcd and isn't clearly visible in sunlight, .... amoled more clearly you can see?
You can also look on the box, if it says 3.7" touch sensitive screen, it is slcd, if it says 3.7" amoled touch sensitive screen it is amoled
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Hello,
I do deeply apologise if I am making this thread on top of some that already exist, I tried to do search, but did not find anything exactly like my problem...
Well, here it goes. I have the old version of HTC desire with Amoled Screen(I am pretty certain about it) but suddenly, I dropped my beloved on ground, and it fell flat on screen... digitizer and screen protectors were absolutely fine, but the inner screen cracked and liquid thingie got out, so after few days, I ordered repair on HTC, despite 85pounds worth repair, and 3weeks waiting, I finaly got my phone back... but there is something wrong with it...
I have read over the internet some talking about dust stuck between screen and digitizer, I have read something about digitizer not working as supposed etc. but my issue is different, the screen is Yellowish?!? Did some google search, and found that SLCD screens are yellowish, and AMOLED blue-ish, fair enough, did some research and checked differences, and NONE of the SLCD screens were that yellowish as mine, so took drop of water on screen to use it as zoom to find out if I have SLCD or AMOLED, according to engadget.com, I got another AMOLED screen, which makes me kinda happy(black is really black, viewing angles are good etc). but the color... I would not mind much, but its sooo yellow, that whats supposed to be blue is having slightly greenish color now... I can attach some pictures if you need, but I have nothing to compare with other than my LCD display on PC. I will actualy check tomorrow with some people from work who got Desire as well.
I also found one thread on this forum, that one lad was replacing the screen for himself, and that he found the problem is on some filters thingie(I dont understand such things that much, and I would not be able to fix it by myself) that was turning his screen yellowish as well...
So my main question is, could possibly the phone leave the HTC repair center in England with this kind of fault? Where the screen is yellow-ish and actualy turning colors of pictures different way?
Nothing is 100% perfect and we're all human, so yes, there is room for error. Take it back and say you don't like it. As far as explaining it to you, I have no bloody idea at all. If I was you I would take it back. Whilst we're on the topic, how do you know if you have an AMOLED or a SLCD screen?
I hope its nothing against rules, here is the best way how to know what display you have:
engadget[dot]com/photos/spot-the-difference-htc-desires-slcd-versus-amoled/#3354740
just focus on the bricks, if they are like on old phones, then you have SLCD, if they are like on wall, its AMOLED, the AMOLED has build its basics little zigzag, but SLCD is straight, just like on LCD screen on PC - you can easily notice while browsing the net and displaying straight vertical line, if its thin enough, you will see little edges on it
Other than that, I dont think there is anything else(appart from how bright colors are on Amoled) that would say you have AMOLED or LCD
I had a look but it was hard to tell how they were lined up. It seemed that they're all like a wall, I'm pretty sure but need a microscope lol.
It is easier to tell if you look at something that is blue or red, rather than white or green. If it is amoled it will have diagonal lines or a diamond pattern with black dots in them. Lcd will be entirely smooth with only horizontal and vertical lines.
Ok, so I have seen a friends amoled screen now, and I have changed my opinion now, the yellowish, and he has blue-ish color.. so mine screen looks way better and has way more contrast, so I guess I'll keep this as it is, and just get used to it... I dont want to use nokia 6070 any longer
You might be interested in the colour calibration that comes stock with e.g. Cyanogenmod if you have rooted the phone. There you can change the balance between R G and B to obtain a more natural white.
Normal cautions regarding rooting apply.
Gotta root first, since the phone came back from repair completely wiped out
Zheiko said:
I hope its nothing against rules, here is the best way how to know what display you have:
engadget[dot]com/photos/spot-the-difference-htc-desires-slcd-versus-amoled/#3354740
just focus on the bricks, if they are like on old phones, then you have SLCD, if they are like on wall, its AMOLED, the AMOLED has build its basics little zigzag, but SLCD is straight, just like on LCD screen on PC - you can easily notice while browsing the net and displaying straight vertical line, if its thin enough, you will see little edges on it
Other than that, I dont think there is anything else(appart from how bright colors are on Amoled) that would say you have AMOLED or LCD
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Or you could put on a pure black background and see if the blacks are black! If you can see backlight then it's LCD.
True, that's a way how to find out as well, but I wasn't that certain with this since I didn't have different phone to compare..
Btw, phone rooted and runing gingerbread ATM, pretty happy with it, and screen settled down and colors are good again...
Just about the gingerbread, is there a hope for having sense on it before official launch? Or do we have any official news from HTC about gingerbread coming on desires?
I don't have the incredible in my possession yet, but I heard they started using SLCD on the newer incredibles. Is there an easy way to tell which screen I have?
Go to Settings: About Phone and look for the hardware revision. 002 is AMOLED, 003 is SLCD.
Alternately, go into a dark room and load up an image with a lot of black in it. If it's completely pitch black in the black areas of the image, you've got AMOLED. If you can see some light bleeding through in those areas, it's SLCD.
Also, if you're getting a brand new phone then you have almost no chance of getting AMOLED at this point. The only real way to get AMOLED anymore is with refurbished or used phones.
I actually might prefer SLCD. I heard SLCD is closer to the top, thus things are clearer? I have a fascinate right now and I've gotten over the amoled hype...not a fan of oversaturation.
How can u tell which one u have because this phone was used and I got it at tech support because my other one was bricked
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Thus might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11564511&postcount=2
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I don't see a hardware revision number my Rom is a sense 3.5 Rom
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You aren't looking hard enough. It is under
Settings> About Phone >Hardware Information> Hardware version
Also, this may not read accurately depending on your rom. Mine reads "0003" but I know I have an Amoled screen. Any reason you need to know your screen type?
No reason jus curious
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I can spot a dInc AMOLED from 10 feet away. They are VERY easy to identify because the black is truly black and they are dim as hell more often than not.
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I can spot a dInc AMOLED from 10 feet away. They are VERY easy to identify because the black is truly black and they are dim as hell more often than not.
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If loonatik owned an AMOLED..
"I can spot a dInc SLCD from 10 feet away. They are VERY easy to identify because the white is truly white and they are washed out as hell more often than not.
I also have a 0003 hardware version with the amoled screen, so hardware version not super accurate. An easy way to tell though is to put a drop of water on the screen to magnify the pixels. Amoled screens have a sort of checkerboard red/blue pixel layout with green pixel columns to the right.
Ok the only way 100% accurate is to remove your battery and look right below the blue tooth logo.
If you read
ADR6300VW or ADR6300VW2
you have a AMOLED
If you read
ADR6300VW3
you have SLCD
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If loonatik owned an AMOLED..
"I can spot a dInc SLCD from 10 feet away. They are VERY easy to identify because the white is truly white and they are washed out as hell more often than not.
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I DO. I was trying to find a ROM for it last night and as much as I like the contrast qualities of the display, the off colors aren't what I'm used to anymore. I guess I shouldn't say the AMOLED just looks washed out; it looks washed out in bright light. I really have spotted them from 10 feet away though.
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I also have a 0003 hardware version with the amoled screen, so hardware version not super accurate. An easy way to tell though is to put a drop of water on the screen to magnify the pixels. Amoled screens have a sort of checkerboard red/blue pixel layout with green pixel columns to the right.
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I'm not running MIUI just now, and my hardware version is correctly showing as 0002, but I've complained that MIUI releases have shown me 0003.
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Ok the only way 100% accurate is to remove your battery and look right below the blue tooth logo.
If you read
ADR6300VW or ADR6300VW2
you have a AMOLED
If you read
ADR6300VW3
you have SLCD
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I have slcd!
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
I have slcd!
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Glad I help
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Wait but what if it says vw3 and the model is vw then wat type do I have?
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Wait but what if it says vw3 and the model is vw then wat type do I have?
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This isn't at all complicated... Just look at the display. It's VERY obvious what kind of display you have based on a few characteristics. Is black really black? AMOLED! Does a black screen glow? SLCD. Do you see an RGBG pattern of pixels under magnification (through a small drop of water)? AMOLED. It the white a true white? SLCD.
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Wait but what if it says vw3 and the model is vw then wat type do I have?
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The model is just the phone.
Now the numbers above the model the one that end with vw3 is the version of the phone. vw3=third version of the incredible, slcd screen
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loonatik78 said:
This isn't at all complicated... Just look at the display. It's VERY obvious what kind of display you have based on a few characteristics. Is black really black? AMOLED! Does a black screen glow? SLCD. Do you see an RGBG pattern of pixels under magnification (through a small drop of water)? AMOLED. It the white a true white? SLCD.
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Hey not everyone can tell just by looking at the screen
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Kratz17 said:
Hey not everyone can tell just by looking at the screen
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Yeah, but refurbed devices are coming out with all kinds of numbers so that sure isn't a reliable indicator. I'm trying to provide an easy, completely certain way to tell. Turn on the camera, go into a completely dark closet or bathroom and see if it glows. Glowing screens are SLCD.
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Yeah, but refurbed devices are coming out with all kinds of numbers so that sure isn't a reliable indicator. I'm trying to provide an easy, completely certain way to tell. Turn on the camera, go into a completely dark closet or bathroom and see if it glows. Glowing screens are SLCD.
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not always.. with the brightness turned up my AMOLED isn't completely black. That isn't even turning it up all the way either
if it was a lower brightness setting then it is entirely black in the dark.
AMOLEDs have darker blacks but it doesn't mean that all blacks will be pure pitch black, so this way is not a good indicator.
Best way is through phone settings (not that complicated either)
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The model is just the phone.
Now the numbers above the model the one that end with vw3 is the version of the phone. vw3=third version of the incredible, slcd screen
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Thx
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I apologize if my attempt at search terms didn't yet yield an answer that has already been posted.
On my Droid Charge if I tilted the phone up or down in portrait mode it would cause the screen to take on a blue hue. It turns out it was because of the screen protector I was using. Took it off, no problem.
However, I have no screen protector on my Galaxy Nexus, and I'm seeing the same thing occur. Since the screens are hardly the same (AMOLED+ vs AMOLED, different resolution, different size) I can't really tell if its normal. The demo model at my store was out of commission.
Anybody else notice this or is there something wrong with my screen? My friend said his doesn't do it, but I haven't seen it myself (he lives an hour away) and its possible he just isn't as picky as me
Thanks in advance.
I got the same thing on mines. Blue tint when not looking at screen straight.
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when my buddy first got the Samsung Facinate, I remember noticing that weird blue tint. maybe it's a Samsung thing?
Voodoo color should come soon to fix that!
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GinNjoose said:
when my buddy first got the Samsung Facinate, I remember noticing that weird blue tint. maybe it's a Samsung thing?
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Jasonhunterx said:
Voodoo color should come soon to fix that!
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A blue tint of some sort, or cool colors in general are a product of the Super AMOLED screens, yes.
I don't think Voodoo Color would fix it in this respect, because I think it either has to do with the coating on the screen itself, or the way the light is refracting based on viewing angle.
I could be wrong...