This is for anyone who has a NAM Bell Desire Z and debranded it- I am currently using a Bell Desire Z in the US with ATT. I have read a few guides on here explaining how to debrand the phone to the OEM WWE ROM but I have also read in those forums that some people have had bad signal issues after doing it.
I am also nervous because the WWE ROM flashes a radio for the 900/2100 bands when this phone uses 850/1900. Back in the touch pro days this would brick the phone but I am reading on here that apparently it works with the Desire Z. I also read that there is currently no RUU for the current Bell ROM so I can't go back to stock if it messes up (I don't want to bother with rooting to do nandroid). I have made a Goldcard to get around having to root it.
If anyone who has debranded their Bell Desire Z can let me know if they have had any issues with signal, WiFi, ect, I'd appreciate it.
Here are the two threads I have seen where people have had issues after debranding-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
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Hi guys, I'm new here and i've just had my Desire for just over a week.
Apparently I need to use a Goldcard to root my desire and wanted to ask a couple of questions in regards to this.
-My understanding is that the Telstra Desires are unlocked, therefore not needing a Goldcard?
-After the rooting process is finished do you still need the Goldcard or is it only needed while you initially root the phone?
-During the rooting process, you replace the original rom with another rom, can this be any rom on the market that is rooted? or should it be the recommended rom stated in the guide?
-Which set of files do i use during the rooting guides? as the phone is bootloader 0.75 but has a 1.16.841.1 rom?
I have done a fair amount of reading on other posts(XDA and MoDaCo) and just need to get a better understanding of how the rooting process works.
Desire Bootloader Shows:
BRAVO UNKNOW SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH-PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
Device:
Stock Telstra ROM
HTC Desire A8183
Build 1.16.841.1
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
jrc91 said:
Hi guys, I'm new here and i've just had my Desire for just over a week.
Apparently I need to use a Goldcard to root my desire and wanted to ask a couple of questions in regards to this.
-My understanding is that the Telstra Desires are unlocked, therefore not needing a Goldcard?
-After the rooting process is finished do you still need the Goldcard or is it only needed while you initially root the phone?
-During the rooting process, you replace the original rom with another rom, can this be any rom on the market that is rooted? or should it be the recommended rom stated in the guide?
-Which set of files do i use during the rooting guides? as the phone is bootloader 0.75 but has a 1.16.841.1 rom?
I have done a fair amount of reading on other posts(XDA and MoDaCo) and just need to get a better understanding of how the rooting process works.
Desire Bootloader Shows:
BRAVO UNKNOW SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH-PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
Device:
Stock Telstra ROM
HTC Desire A8183
Build 1.16.841.1
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Howdy, as I have a Telstra Desire I think I can help.
1. You need the gold card, there are guides about, but leave a message in this thread if you need specific direction.
2. I would use whatever ROM is in the guide, I have been using Rom Manager to switch ROM's since then though. (Which is currently broken for me, working on it now)
3. I used the 0.8 or greater guide one on mine, seemed to do the job.
so to sum it up
a. make gold card, I have kept this card on my 2gb micro sd
b. flash rom, I have this on my 4gb micro sd
c. use new stuff, I have a 16gb flash for my daily use.
Enjoy but be prepared to have a few bugs pop up. Also, no FROYO roms have video recording working yet..... (This is the biggest missing feature)
Thanks heaps.
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
have you had any problems with GPS since flashing custom roms?
Sorry, i've been reading heaps, and i think i'm confusing myself more than making sense.
Mate I have a Telstra Desire as well, I rooted/flashed it last night (after weeks of paranoia), and it's well worth it. Just follow the instructions closely and you will be right.
I am running 24/6 Modaco and GPS seemed to be working well this morning, battery consumption seems a little better, the overall performance is heaps better than stock.
What are you waiting for!? DO IT!!!!
Same here, if you need help you can pm me if you cant reach mrturkey
Great! i'll probably have a go this weekend.
A couple of other questions: are you still able to connect to the Telstra Next G Network? I assume you would be able to as you don't flash the radio?
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
Thanks in advance
jrc91 said:
Great! i'll probably have a go this weekend.
A couple of other questions: are you still able to connect to the Telstra Next G Network? I assume you would be able to as you don't flash the radio?
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
Thanks in advance
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Yep can still connect to NextG, I always check the APN's after putting a new rom as most of the time I have to change a couple of settings in them.
Don't need goldcard to boot after rooting is done
Best way to flash ROM's is from the SD card IMO.
The ROM manager / fakeflash methods are the easiest way to go (I use ROM manager) it is pretty straight forward to use, and yes you do need to root before using rom manager.
telstra next g vs 3g
Hi guys - just a quick question for those of you who are running Telstra Desires on Optus and other networks. Someone mentioned on whirlpool that the NextG version is actually missing the correct 3G band for running on the other networks (3G 900 Mhz?) and that the overseas/non-telstra versions are actually faster because they run at 3G speed rather than '2.5G'. Does that sound right to you, or is the speed of the Telstra Desire just fine on the Optus network?
Quote from Whirlpool:
I initially bought the Telstra-Branded Htc-Desire & brang it back for a REFUND.!
(I should of known better to listen to Telstra sales, as I hate branded phones)
I also use Optus, & having the Telstra branded one is, U miss out on the 3G 900mhz bandwidth...
Internet speeds have now gone waaay faster now & works like it's suppose too ... And so it should ...
OK well it indicates that it is connected as 3g, and in some areas h.
The speed seemed acceptable to me this morning when I downloaded some app updates.
How can I tell for sure whether its 2.5 or 3?
The NextG network is 3G. 2.5G is the old designation for GSM (or CDMA) networks with GPRS.
For optus you'll need to get the international version of the Desire (A8181) which works on the 900/2100 bands. According to wiki optus runs their own 3G network on 900. The telstra Desire runs on 850/2100.
btw...the "h" indicates HSPA support
jbngar said:
Hi guys - just a quick question for those of you who are running Telstra Desires on Optus and other networks. Someone mentioned on whirlpool that the NextG version is actually missing the correct 3G band for running on the other networks (3G 900 Mhz?) and that the overseas/non-telstra versions are actually faster because they run at 3G speed rather than '2.5G'. Does that sound right to you, or is the speed of the Telstra Desire just fine on the Optus network?
Quote from Whirlpool:
I initially bought the Telstra-Branded Htc-Desire & brang it back for a REFUND.!
(I should of known better to listen to Telstra sales, as I hate branded phones)
I also use Optus, & having the Telstra branded one is, U miss out on the 3G 900mhz bandwidth...
Internet speeds have now gone waaay faster now & works like it's suppose too ... And so it should ...
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I have a Telstra Desire running on the Optus network, and the speed is really good.
I rooted and my Desire over the weekend and loaded Modaco 1.21.mcr.2 CLxxxxxx ROM as a first custom ROM. Had a few issues with loading on the custom recovery after loading my custom rom (issues were due to adb drivers on windows OS - use a linux distro to load the recovery from UnrEVOked's recovery flashing thingamebob, then use ClockworkMod ROM Recovery from the Android market.
Ill try other ROMs this weekend once i am not using the phone for work...but all in all the phone is so much faster without the Telstra bloatware on it.
Thanks to all the developers around...(I will thank you financially aswell).
I currently imported a Telstra HTC Desire with 850MHz Bands to work on the Rogers 3G network.
I was just wondering if the rooting/flashing process of the phone would be different with say the european 3G version of the phone?
Which RUU/ROMS, root methods should I use?
I have rooted/flashed a HTC Hero using goldcard method so I'm not a complete noob but I just don't want to flash the wrong radio or image and brick my new $600 phone. Any replies, will be appreciated. Thanks again and I hope I'll enjoy my Desire
It's all the same in regards to rooting
My telstra Desire works fine on 850mhz, rooted running OpenDesire (froyo). I used the modaco guide, but the unRevoked 1-click program sounds like the go now.
Hi, Im new to here (to posting), so I apologise if this has been asked before.
I have a Desire that has Next G software on it and I would like to get 2.2 Froyo without any of the Telstra stuff on it.
For some reason I cant root it and I have been looking at a way to downgrade it. Can i ask what are your opinions of the most effective way to do that?
I have been looking and I can not find a guide that is specific for Telstra handsets at how to downgrade them so I can get Froyo on them.
Thanks
thediesel32 said:
Hi, Im new to here (to posting), so I apologise if this has been asked before.
I have a Desire that has Next G software on it and I would like to get 2.2 Froyo without any of the Telstra stuff on it.
For some reason I cant root it and I have been looking at a way to downgrade it. Can i ask what are your opinions of the most effective way to do that?
I have been looking and I can not find a guide that is specific for Telstra handsets at how to downgrade them so I can get Froyo on them.
Thanks
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Hi
I have a Telstra desire and was able to root with HBOOT 0.75 and also with 0.83. I think your problem may be with rooting rather than with HBOOT.
Try the whirlpool forums for Australian specific advice.
Ben
I can't remember exactly what my telstra desire had but I remember I had to use the wrong version for the boot software that was installed as standard.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks, I will look into that.
Hi folks,
I have a question for you.
I have just received my T-Mobile G2 HTC Android phone.
I am so happy i it, but I so get used to HTC Sense ROM. And for sometime I am returning to Belarus.
Here is my steps.
1. Make device SuperCID.
2. Unlock, so I could you use Belarussian SIM cards.
3. Flash Desire Z stock rom.
4. Done
But here is a question:
Is it safe to flash Desire Z ROM to T-mobile G2.
As I could guess, they have different radio images (US and Europe) or I might be wrong?
Do not post questions in the DEVELOPMENT section, use QnA or General next time!!!!!
*AFAIK*.... If you are super CID + full radio s-off then you can use RUU's from other regions. But why bother. stick to custom and carry on flashing through recovery.
also,... Radios can be used in other regions than those intended by HTC, for instance some people are using the radio from the Egypt ROM in the UK will noticeable improvement in signal.
The radio images are not a problem.
The only thing I'm unsure about is the way the G2 and DZ are partitioned differently. This isn't a problem for custom ROMs, but if you flash a complete ROM/RUU it will include the hboot too. So I would love to know if you can flash the hboot too and that will mean your partitioning will be adjusted, or whether perhaps flashing the wrong hboot will brick your phone. Though I am not asking you to experiment for me, because of the risk involved !
I wouldn't have thought the ROM flash would actually re-partition the storage, but I'd be interested to find out.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
wileykat said:
Do not post questions in the DEVELOPMENT section, use QnA or General next time!!!!!
*AFAIK*.... If you are super CID + full radio s-off then you can use RUU's from other regions. But why bother. stick to custom and carry on flashing through recovery.
also,... Radios can be used in other regions than those intended by HTC, for instance some people are using the radio from the Egypt ROM in the UK will noticeable improvement in signal.
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Is there is any Custom ROM for DZ, that I can simply apply for G2?
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Is there is any Custom ROM for DZ, that I can simply apply for G2?
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As far as I am aware, none of the custom ROMs are specific, and any of them should work fine on the G2 and DZ. So you should find some Sense custom ROMs in the dev forum that you can use, if that's what you want.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
Hi all,
I have read many posts on Downgrading, Rooting, S-Off, Unlocking, etc...
Before I step into this process, just wanted to ask is there a way to unlock HTC Desire HD, without doing any of those things mentioned above?
I am not interested in doing anything to my phone (even I believe that it will work much better if I flash custom ROM), just would like to be able to use it with different sim cards when I am going abroad.
HT Desire HD
2.3.3
2.36.405.8
Thanks,
Vlada
Hi, As far as i know you will have to pay to get it unlocked.
Try this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653252
There seem to be a few links on there that a few people have used. Might help you out.