We've discussed this in a few other threads already, but figured it was worth a separate topic, so here goes.
As some of you are aware, a certain German carrier bundles Navigon Select with their handsets. Thing is, they only include maps for Austria, Germany, Liechtenstein and Switzerland. That's obviously great for the fine people of these countries, but not so much for those of us living in other parts of the world and have imported a WP7 device from Germany.
There is a rather simple solution to this. What you will need are the iPhone maps (version 1.7) for whatever country you are interested in, these come as an .ipa file which is basically the iPhone's equivalent of .xap - they open fine in your favorite archive utility such as WinRAR. I'm not going to go into detail of where to get hold of these maps as it is borderline piracy even if you do own the paid for iPhone version, instead I will assume you have the .ipa file accessible on your desktop computer.
So, to start, make sure your WP7 device has been jailbroken using Chevron. Secondly, peform the registry hack to have your WP7 device show up in Windows Explorer. Once you've done this, install TouchXplorer onto your WP7 device as you will need it in a minute.
Now, extract the maps from your .ipa file - they are located in a subdirectory named "maps" and named country.map. Once you've extracted the ones you need, simply drag them onto your WP7 phone in Windows Explorer - this will copy the files onto the device. (note - make sure Zune is not running)
Once the files are copied, start TouchXplorer on your device and go into \My Documents\Zune\Content\0400\02\. Here you will find all the files you just copied onto the phone (note - they are now named 050.z or similar). Select the files and copy them. Now, navigate to the \Applications\Data\6F9CB464…..\Data\IsolatedStorage\map folder and paste the files. This will take a few minutes (depending on how many maps you extracted). Once finished, select each of the newly copied files and rename them to the correct filename, i.e. country.map.
That's it. You now have all of these maps available to you in Navigon.
The Navigon app is also available as an XAP from various places on the net, however I will not provide a link (not will I send you a link by PM) as I don't condone piracy. Using the iPhone maps as outlined above I do not consider piracy as I do happen to own these. Also, one could argue that since Navigon are so far not selling these for the WP7 line of devices there's no harm... although let's not discuss semantics
This sounds great. I will try it.
Do you know if there is a way to make Navigator WP7 speak/look different than English or German?
Guessing the voices could be copied over also, files do look alike. As for the UI, not without some coding, but its definitely doable.
emigrating said:
Guessing the voices could be copied over also, files do look alike. As for the UI, not without some coding, but its definitely doable.
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This is warez friend.
Any idea how we do the file changing stuff on the phone when the phone isnt HTC? As far as I know touchXplorer only works on HTC phones... those of us with Samsung Phones (myself) or LG, Dell might be S*^T out of luck here....
Please keep this in SW Development.
~~Tito~~
I'm using it since yesterday, finally working navi for WP7. Two problems and one question though:
1. It's awefully quite, i have to turn the volume to about ~20, and then pray nobody would call me, because OS is super loud in this settings
2. VOICES, how can i change VOICES?
Q. 3D VIEW depends on map, or on application?
sthEn said:
I'm using it since yesterday, finally working navi for WP7. Two problems and one question though:
1. It's awefully quite, i have to turn the volume to about ~20, and then pray nobody would call me, because OS is super loud in this settings
2. VOICES, how can i change VOICES?
Q. 3D VIEW depends on map, or on application?
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Polish voices are allready in the app directory, I've chcecked thoce 3 config files in isolated folder but there are no voices configuration. Language also cannot be changed, after that Navigon will get an error and download configs again.
Solution: Rename polish voices to english and german and overwrite those in app folder.
I wish they had maps for malaysia-singapore
1 . who have tried to use different maps than the german or UK ?????
Italian maps for example
2. 3D maps works fine at all ???????
3. Navigate in FULL Screen is possible too ?
i'm at work and i can't yet try to install all package...
Beretta93 said:
This is warez friend.
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How is this warez? If you own the iPhone maps already getting them to run on WP7 should be covered under 17 USC 117 (Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy). Obviously dependant on where you live, but for me this would not be considered piracy in the eyes of the law. Also, I did not post any links to downloadable maps or .xap's.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Any idea how we do the file changing stuff on the phone when the phone isnt HTC? As far as I know touchXplorer only works on HTC phones... those of us with Samsung Phones (myself) or LG, Dell might be S*^T out of luck here....
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You're SOL for the time being. If you have some idea about writing code you could patch up the dll to either copy maps directly from the .xap (though deployment would be crazy slow) or download from a webserver of your choice though.
This is of concern to me also as I own two Samsung Omnia 7's where I will need this once the Brodit active car holder arrives (been told it ships this Friday). If it's still not done by then, and Navigon has not come back with further information on when they plan to release in the marketplace I'll look into this further.
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Please keep this in SW Development.
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Funny thing is, this was initially posted in said forum, then moved by a moderator
I think, ideally the thread should be moved to the Dev subforum in the generic Windows Phone 7 forum though, as it's more of a WP7 thing than a HD2 thing. My bad for not considering this when first posting.
sthEn said:
Q. 3D VIEW depends on map, or on application?
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Depends on the software. IMO the Navigon Select software sucks, but having spoken to Navigon they say they are releasing a "full" WP7 client early 2011. Don't have any further information that that though, but we can hope they will bring it up to the same level as their iPhone app.
Shu. said:
I wish they had maps for malaysia-singapore
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Are you sure they don't? I haven't checked, but I do know they have some Australasia maps available.
wolfgart said:
1 . who have tried to use different maps than the german or UK ?????
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Yes, I've got maps installed for all of Western Europe and North America (as that's what I had already purchased for the iPhone) - works fine. As a test I mapped a drive from southern Italy to the north of Norway which seemed to give okay results. Didn't even take too long to map the route.
wolfgart said:
1 . who have tried to use different maps than the german or UK ?????
Italian maps for example
2. 3D maps works fine at all ???????
3. Navigate in FULL Screen is possible too ?
i'm at work and i can't yet try to install all package...
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I don't know how to set 3d maps.
I confirm that Italy maps works with it
I got it running. Brilliant. The thing I was missing.
But still it's not TomTom. But I can live with it for the moment.
I installed Benelux maps without problem. But no 3D yet. We have to wait for the 'full version' lateron I guess.
Still trying to get Dutch voices copied. Will report.
THANKS FOR THIS.
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Polish voices are allready in the app directory, I've chcecked thoce 3 config files in isolated folder but there are no voices configuration. Language also cannot be changed, after that Navigon will get an error and download configs again.
Solution: Rename polish voices to english and german and overwrite those in app folder.
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I tried renaming Dutch to English but then the English file gets replaced again after startup.
Any solution?
PedrooNL said:
I tried renaming Dutch to English but then the English file gets replaced again after startup.
Any solution?
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Open Filenames.xml from app folder on your pc (use those new file explorer to easly exchange files between pc and phone) and then change filesize of english usa and gbr to your voice size. Then copy twice your language and rename it to usa and gbr files. Then just overwrite and run app. It will not download them from network anymore.
Sorry but what is the reg tweak to enable usb mass storage mode? I did find a reg tweak on the net and it told me to find one entry and to change three things in it but those three things were not in the entry I found so maybe there is another tweak and I got the wrong one?
Thanks!
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Sorry but what is the reg tweak to enable usb mass storage mode? I did find a reg tweak on the net and it told me to find one entry and to change three things in it but those three things were not in the entry I found so maybe there is another tweak and I got the wrong one?
Thanks!
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No, that's the right one - just go up one level (to DeviceProperties or so) when you've found the Zune entry and you'll find them.
I've attached a file with two .reg files which will sort it out for you though.
Hi. This sounds so great! But I think I have a problem… My devices are from AT&T USA, so I can’t find Navigon software. Is there a way to install Navigon on an AT&T USA HTC Surround?
Thanks for sharing this amazing information.
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Originally Posted by Aaron McCarthy
Any idea how we do the file changing stuff on the phone when the phone isnt HTC? As far as I know touchXplorer only works on HTC phones... those of us with Samsung Phones (myself) or LG, Dell might be S*^T out of luck here....
You're SOL for the time being. If you have some idea about writing code you could patch up the dll to either copy maps directly from the .xap (though deployment would be crazy slow) or download from a webserver of your choice though.
This is of concern to me also as I own two Samsung Omnia 7's where I will need this once the Brodit active car holder arrives (been told it ships this Friday). If it's still not done by then, and Navigon has not come back with further information on when they plan to release in the marketplace I'll look into this further.
You're SOL for the time being. If you have some idea about writing code you could patch up the dll to either copy maps directly from the .xap (though deployment would be crazy slow) or download from a webserver of your choice though.
This is of concern to me also as I own two Samsung Omnia 7's where I will need this once the Brodit active car holder arrives (been told it ships this Friday). If it's still not done by then, and Navigon has not come back with further information on when they plan to release in the marketplace I'll look into this further.
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Well... 2 things killed my excitement here... 1st being that I cant actually load maps on because I definitely do NOT have the coding skills required to make an XAP to load the maps where I need them too... Although I might look into it as I have a day off. I highly doubt its something that can be learned in a day
Second is this doesn't have 3d view!!!??? What the hell!? This was the main reason I wanted Navigon. I've had it (and tomtom) on every windows phone Ive had for the last 5 years or so. They release an app that doesn't have 3d view support? This totally boggles my mind. I suppose this just really says something about lack of BIG app support for windows phone 7 though. These have been out for a while now, and developers had access to programs to develop these for launch and nadda... I went back and looked at the videos of the program in use on youtube and yup! No 3d view. I think I was always just so excited to finally have something better then bing maps on here that I over looked I never saw it switch into 3d. Thing is, as it stands right now this is no better then bing maps! Theres no voice input support like Navigon has had in the past (which Bing has)... and at least Bing has satellite view to make up for its crappy navigation downfalls *sigh* I have no doubt this is ACTUALLY better for navigating then bing but bing is so integrated into the phone its just a no brainer to use, clicking an address from the calendar or website etc etc. I realize 3d view is just eye candy but........ It's the best part of these programs as far as Im concerned.
I loaded Navigon on my phone last night hoping there might be some way to load the maps on today. I'll leave it on for the time being but other then that.... this probably wont get much use.
Damn it!
Just for S*^T's and Giggles can you give the exact path that the maps get sent to so when I start trying to make an XAP file to install the maps I can code this in properly. I need to know the values of the "..."
Also would this even be the same location on a samsung phone?
Thanks
" Select the files and copy them. Now, navigate to the \Applications\Data\6F9CB464…..\Data\IsolatedStorag e\map folder and paste the files. This will take a few minutes (depending on how many maps you extracted). Once finished, select each of the newly copied files and rename them to the correct filename, i.e. country.map."
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THIS SERVER HAS NOW BEEN DEACTIVATED - See below / my final post
WARNING! The old IP-based/Pocket Hosts method using my server HAS BEEN DEACTIVATED, as I have had to remove the code in question from the direct IP. This means that selecting the custom weather server purely via the HTC home customizing utilities without installing a patched version of the HTC Home DLL, it WILL NOT WORK and you will just get "unable to retrieve data" messages. If this is the case, please uninstall your existing HTC Home plugin, and use one of the ones off the download page.
You can, if necessary, set up your own IP address to base it on, if you can't use my system for some reason, and use the pocket host method that way (requires your own server). Otherwise, please use the cabs below.
NEW! UNIVERSAL PATCH PACKAGE
I've written a universal patcher, so people can now get the HTC Home package they want, and just patch the HTCHome.dll from \WINDOWS. Simply get the package, unzip, drop your HTCHome.dll file in the N2A-Patcher folder, and run the n2a-patcher script inside. It'll magically create you a package! (This won't work for DLLs which people have already patched, you need to use the unmodified original.) This should negate the need for me to create individual packages anymore. Feedback welcome! As a result, I won't be releasing any more complete packages - just install your personal favorite, get the \WINDOWS\HTCHome.dll from your device, drop it in the packager, and let it do it's magic, then install the newly created cab.
Coming soon, if I can figure it out - drop the installer in, and get a patched full installer out! Of course, I have to figure out how to batch extract the cabfile correctly first... *laughs*
I've also just created a DLL to CAB packager (so you can drop your own pre-patched DLL in, and it'll turn it into a ready-to-install cabfile), and a DLL patcher (which just patches the DLL itself, ready for cooking etc - perfect for all you flashers out there!) - all on the download page.
PLEASE DON'T PM ME ABOUT THIS - KEEP IT TO THE THREAD UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY REQUEST A PM OR PM YOU!
Help Request
If anyone has an unpatched Sprint Touch XML file, I could do with a backup copy, for those who corrupt their XML files...
If you've got a Touch, Kaiser/TyTN II or Sprint Touch...
There are specific device DLL replacement packages on the new file download page.
NEW DOWNLOAD AND INSTRUCTION SITE
I've moved all the downloads and instructions to a new page, which will hopefully make it clearer on what people need to download. It also contains full instructions on hexediting the DLL if you wish, and re-signing. I'm not entirely sure if it's more readable or not, but it's certainly more manageable! Feedback welcome. There's some specific overlays now for certain versions of the ROMs too.
FAQ:
Can I install colour customisations to this?
Sure. Take a look around the forum. There's plenty of guides elsewhere.
What does this do?
It reroutes the request to the AccuWeather server to my server instead, which then requests the appropriate data from the AccuWeather server, and translates it into the HTC Weather XML format.
Can I run this via my own server?
Yup. It's running on mine via PHP 5.2.x, using the SimpleXML extension. The code is downloadable from the main download page, and I've even commented it. Once you get it running, you'll need to hexedit the HTCHome.dll file in the same way as described for the ROM chefs. I'd recommend keeping the same length of file for replacement - using directories to pad it out if necessary - it could cause unpredictable results otherwise.
Do I need to run my own server to get my local weather?
Nope, feel free to use mine.
Your server isn't working!
Oops. It's a rarity, but occasionally network outages happen. The server won't be disappearing anytime soon though without any warning! I'm sorry to say that I'll be taking the server down for this shortly as I'm wrapping up my web hosting business and transferring it to another company, but quite a few other people seem to have hosted a copy if people still need it. I hope it's been of use over the years everyone!
Why have you done this?
It was really annoying me that I could only get the weather for a city 25 miles away, that had nothing to do with mine.
Can you make me an XML file for such-a-place?
No, I've done enough already, and it's documented fairly heavily above. If you can't follow instructions, give up and stop trying to hack your phone. I'm not here to hold your hand. I'll help fix bugs and obvious issues, but if you can't edit a textfile, you're on your own.
Release Notes
I've stripped most local data from the return info apart from the town/city and country, but the HTC plugin seems to ignore that anyway. Works for all international locations I've tested. I welcome feedback on anything that's not working though, and I'll try to get it nailed pretty quickly. As said above, also works on zip codes, which will make it easier for our US friends on here.
New release fixes countries that weren't in the list, by removing the country checks altogether - I'm confident it'll "just work" - in theory Report bugs in the usual way.
Known Issues
The WM5 version will NOT update over GPRS/3G, unless you are using an AKU3.3 ROM. WM5 Weather update over GPRS has been proven with Wizard AKU3.3 (like the T-Mobile or WM5SEr5). Other devices/ROM's still to be confirmed.
The temperature in Farhenheit can occasionally be a degree or two out, as I convert from the Celsius scale. To get both readings would mean two calls to the server, which would be more work and bandwidth for my server. I'm sure you can live with a degree out occasionally.
Kudos
Thanks PAPPL for the info on signing files, Schen for his great work on the plugin, and to all those who contributed to getting these plugins (and getting them working!) in the first place!
Enjoy!
As I've taken the server down, I've attached all the relevant files to this post. If someone does want to provide somewhere to point the weather.not2advanced.com domain to, I still own the domain and can add the appropriate A address to it for the purpose if they want to continue hosting for the many users that still seem to be using this plugin. Sorry I had to take it down, but I no longer run the hosting operation this was being held on, and it can be a bit heavy on resources at times.
- Rick
Wow, sounds like a lot of work went into this.
Do you think it would be possible, using this framework, to pull data from the NWS website instead of Accuweather?
Theroetically, I could, providing they set up an appropriate XML feed. However, I can only do one such setup per IP address (and the IP addresses I have are somewhat limited), but if someone wanted to set it up, I've no doubt it'd be possible. However, it wouldn't be trivial - I've had to manually grab bits of data from the XML and process it into the format the home plugin expects. As a UK resident, the NWS isn't huge amounts of use to me
On a more technical note though, it'd require a similar format - at least 5 days in advance for a particular area, and the exact parameters (or something that can be adjusted / mangled / processed into the exact parameters) that the plugin needs. (Take a look at the code in the zipfile if you want to see how much of a pain in the neck THAT was!) Adapting it would also need a complete conversion matrix, or a hacky method using (say) the RSS feed ID for the BBC, or however the NWS does it.
Will this work for cingular/att customer?
If it works already for the major cities, then it'll work the same way, but with more localised weather available.
If you're having trouble with the normal weather plugin setup though, you may still have trouble. Then again, it might work! I've no idea. Try it and find out
Yeeaah
Hi N2A / Rick.
Great job - really! I can't thank you enough.
It finally works for me.
Thanks
HTC Homeplug Weather
Hello,
Thanks for sharing your great work. (I am french so sorry for my poor english)
However, I working on HTC Homeplug Weather because it wont let me download weather forecast when I am using 3G connection.
It works great when I an using wifi connection so I think it is coming from the proxy of vodaphone France (SFR) wich is blocking the access. So I was wondering if I will be able to connect to your server ? (for the moment it is not working) or redirecting the plugin to my tunnel...
Second is there a way to be sure that htc weather plugin is trying to connect to htc.accuweather.com and not to another web site.
Thanks in advance
A french guy wich is also living in a small city and wishto have his weather forecast ;-)
TorbenKB said:
Hi N2A / Rick.
Great job - really! I can't thank you enough.
It finally works for me.
Thanks
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You're most welcome Glad I could help.
gdbtg said:
Hello,
However, I working on HTC Homeplug Weather because it wont let me download weather forecast when I am using 3G connection.
It works great when I an using wifi connection so I think it is coming from the proxy of vodaphone France (SFR) wich is blocking the access. So I was wondering if I will be able to connect to your server ? (for the moment it is not working) or redirecting the plugin to my tunnel...
Second is there a way to be sure that htc weather plugin is trying to connect to htc.accuweather.com and not to another web site.
Thanks in advance
A french guy wich is also living in a small city and wishto have his weather forecast ;-)
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Well, if it's the HTC accuweather site specifically blocked, then it will help you. If it's generically blocking sites, then it won't.
Re a tunnel - depends what you mean by it.
The HTC home plugin *always* tries to connect to htc.accuweather.com - hence the host file change, which diverts it to my server instead, which provides the correct data. (NO LONGER APPLIES WITH NEW PLUGINS!)
However, if it's still not working with the hosts file modification (may require soft reset, not sure!), then I'm afraid there's not a lot I can do, unless you can tunnel it as you said, but it depends on what you're using to tunnel.
HTC Homeplug Weather
Thanks for your quick answer !
It's still not worling ;-(
But I wondering how can I test if Pockets Hosts is redirecting properly the htc weather address.
Sincerely
gdbtg said:
Thanks for your quick answer !
It's still not worling ;-(
But I wondering how can I test if Pockets Hosts is redirecting properly the htc weather address.
Sincerely
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Ok, I have got the web site and not the error message.
So there is something wrong.
Thanks for your help.
Befor I can try your nice work, I have a problem with the write protection of the hh_0407_weather... file. I dont get my own file in the folder. I tried some things but it didnt work.
Can you help me? I'm runing a B&B v3.7 Ger beta.
Thanks
gdbtg said:
Ok, I have got the web site and not the error message.
So there is something wrong.
Thanks for your help.
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Reload pocket hosts - it should look something like the attached thumbnail. If it does, try a soft reset. However, if it's still refusing point blank, it's highly possible you're going via a proxy, and that is handling the DNS lookups. To bypass that will require a hack to the HTC plugin itself. I can set it up server side for it (which was going to be my initial approach!), but it'll need an appropriate hostname hacking into the binary. I'll see what I can do on that score tomorrow, both on the home plugin front and the server-side setup.
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Befor I can try your nice work, I have a problem with the write protection of the hh_0407_weather... file. I dont get my own file in the folder. I tried some things but it didnt work.
Can you help me? I'm runing a B&B v3.7 Ger beta.
Thanks
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I suggest using Total Commander - you can remove the read-only flag from there, and even edit it inside it. Works beautifully.
I use the Total Com, too. But when I open the file the Internet Explorer opens and displays the xml file. I tried to remove the flag but he didnt adopt it. So I looked at the attributes again and nothing has changed.
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I use the Total Com, too. But when I open the file the Internet Explorer opens and displays the xml file. I tried to remove the flag but he didnt adopt it. So I looked at the attributes again nothing has changed.
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I'm assuming that's after you've gone to the file properties. You should be able to unclick "Read-only" and "System" on it.
There's quite a bit of information on doing this scattered around the forums. Is it cooked into your ROM? (It'll have a tickbox by the "In ROM" box if that's the case.) But you want to clear the Read Only and System attributes from the file properties if you can, THEN edit it.
More information on this thread.
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I'm assuming that's after you've gone to the file properties. You should be able to unclick "Read-only" and "System" on it.
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I did this but when I open the properties again the attributes for "Read-only" and "System" are still on.
There's quite a bit of information on doing this scattered around the forums. Is it cooked into your ROM? (It'll have a tickbox by the "In ROM" box if that's the case.) But you want to clear the Read Only and System attributes from the file properties if you can, THEN edit it.
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Its in the ROM.
There's your problem. I suggest copying it somewhere else on the device, editing it, and copying it back, but it may have issues doing it.
If you can't copy it back, apparently Resco Explorer is able to do it.
I used resco to do it. you have 14 days free trial so you can test it first.
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/downloads.asp
And thanks N2A this is realy great. And works perfectly can find all the small places in Norway
ialu said:
I used resco to do it. you have 14 days free trial so you can test it first.
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/downloads.asp
And thanks N2A this is realy great. And works perfectly can find all the small places in Norway
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Thanks for both
I copied it with the resco and now it works perfekt. I tried several small cities in Germany and he found all. THANKS again
Thanks. works great. now i know it's going to rain all week here in abergavenny
My fourth message of the day ... I'm inspired !!!
I'm one of a little runners and cyclers group whose want evolve in my sport and use new technology to practice sports.
3 of our have baught and HTC trinity to have an all in one solution : GSM, music player and GPS.
We have test a lot of offroad program, gps tuner,beegps,nimo,noni,... and we are not satisfacted about them... We have ideas which the best program must have but we are so poor programers to do it.
So I would like to know if some of best programers of this forum could make it for us ?
Are you interested ?
We could send you all of ours ideas, with explained pictures ...
PS sorry if it's not the good place to post this ...
thank
Bike GPS
I have a Dopod D810 and I am developing a GPS application for it, mainly because nothing I tried out there did everything I wanted, and was suitable for use on a bike.
My app is a
- Raster-based GPS application
- Music Player
- Phone 'answerer'
- Text message display
- Big buttons (so you can press them while riding)
- Good reliability
I initially developed it for my Dell Axim X51v.
It supports importing/exporting routes and tracks to and from GPX and KML files, and can do playback of tracks. (ie it works with Google Maps/Earth routes and tracks)
It supports importing locations from names files.
It supports maps in TFW, SDW, JPG and BSB formats.
Any music files supported by windows media player are supported.
If you have any maps in one of the above format, this is for you!
wahou !
it's look like what i'm looking for ... without pearhaps a graph which expose speed and altitude during the trip... but i'm so interested ! what is the programation language use ? could you send me sources ?if you want, I can send you some draws to complet with option your soft ?
Its done in C++; sorry, I'm not going to release the source, but I'm happy to get any ideas you have.
oh, I forgot, there's a PC version off the same code base which makes it easier to see playback, build routes, etc. I'll add some speed/altitude/time graphs to it over the weekend some time if I get a chance.
I'll also eventually put the installers on my web site.
ok... it's not a problem that you don't release source... just ... could you send me just how you get speed, altitude and position ... you dialogue with the P3600 GPS... is there library or only code lines ?
My idea...
-make a rotation of your cards in function your deplacement like tomtom.
-on my soft, i would like record precedent trip to do versus when I take the same road. This versus could compare KM all long the time and bip me when i'm late.
-the graph which compare my speed and variation of altitude all long my trip
-instant speed/speed trip/time/km
Initially, I used the GPS API in the microsoft SDK, but its not reliable enough (sometimes it stops signalling updates on its event), so I wrote my own from scratch and the NMEA documentation.
- Sorry, I'm not familiar with tomtom, so I'm not sure what your after with your first request.
- Its not exactly easy to track a previously taken path and map it to the current path, but it could be done. The biggest problem is storage of your previous paths. I have about 24GB of old tracks saved! I'm waiting for an 8GB mini SD !
I'll have a look into the idea though.
- Displaying (and even graphing) current speed/time/altitude, ect are trivial and I already do that. I'll look into graphing.
Is anyone else interested in this app?
I would be interested in this for cycling and hiking.
Sorry for this question but why don't you let members of this forum download sources of your GPS API ? Or directly the API compiled to let other programing theirs applications if it is better than windows API ?
For my application I need only to know :
- Altitude
- trip point (x,y)
- how to solve to have speed (v=D/t)
Have you seen http://gpsdash.com/news.php
I'm always looking for more choice...here is one that many of my sport crazed friends are using. I may start using it for tracking my motorcycle rides too. Here is the software http://www.rungps.net/Wiki.jsp?page=HomeEN . Here is the online tracking server http://www.gps-sport.net/index.jsp .
The reason I'm not releasing source is because I may, at some time in the future, make this into a commercial product and I don't want to ruin my chances with that.
The other is that I don't really think it is of much benefit to most people to release source for an application. I think it is far more useful to make a library of the useful functionality, with a well documented API of the thing, so that people can start at a higher level to implement their ideas. Since I don't yet have such a library, I can't release that either .
I went riding on the weekend (its nice and sunny here), so I didn't get any more done on this.
From other people's responses, it looks like there's plenty to choose from anyway.
Once again, Yannn, there is documentation in the Microsoft SDK on how to access the gps (its called gpsapi).
Finally
I have finally decided to release an early version of this software.
Its at
http://www.lukepaton.com/BikeGPS/
If you are able to set things up for yourself, and want to give it a try, go ahead. I haven't got a huge amount of time to support it, so it might take some playing around to get it working, particularly at first. There isn't a manual or help for it, so go looking through all the menus and see what you can find!
To get started, from the View menu, have a look at settings, and set up your paths and then from the Map|File menu, choose, Re-Read All Maps.
Cheers,
Luke
Hi Luke
Thanks for the release. On first run, I got the message:
"Open File \CF Card\Data\BikeGPSMaps.mdt failed"
When I hit OK it closes. I made this directory path and chucked a .jpg in it and then it ran.
I see in Settings>Paths your default project is pointing to your compact flash card so I changed these to \Storage Card\...\
I have had a good look through the menus, it seems to be a pretty nice useful kit. I like the .sid support and export to .csv, even converts from OziExplorer Probably wouldn't use the player or sms fuctionality though.
Logged some data to the .gps_log file, will try and use it later.
Just can't see where to open map image. When I click open map it doesn't have anything in the list to select... No need to bother yourself with a full user manual, but it would be good to load a map background.
Sorry, I first developed it for a Dell Axim, and an iPaq before that. They have CF Cards...
To get it to have some maps to open, Map|File|Re read all maps looks in the map path (Settings|Paths|Map Path) (Mine is \Storage Card\Maps\).
It prompts you for the kind of files to load (KAP, TIF, SID, MAP).
Yes, MAP is from Oziexplorer - some of the map CDs I bought used MAP files, but the code to interpret map files is a bit of a mess, and it doesn't support oziexplorer ozf files...
After that, Map|File|Open Map|All Maps should give you something to open.
You have to select a single map (multiple selection is for delete).
Anyway, its good to see that someone could even get the thing installed
Cannot access menu, progrram will stop after prompt of missing file, it is not installed in memory card/data either. Also shortcut is missing.
Hi Fimae,
I used resco to add a shortcut, but the install program is supposed to put it in 'programs'.
Not sure what you mean by 'cant access menu'. There are about 7 menus, not including popups. Is the main menu visible?
See above about storage card. I'll make it allow you to browse for the storage card the first time it runs.
Thanks for your feedback.
Luke
Now I'm all motivated
I've done an update which should make it easier to work out whats going on when first installing. It will prompt for the path to your files.
At the first prompt, enter /Storage Card/, or wherever your storage will be.
It automatically creates Data/ and Maps/, so put your maps under /Storage Card/Maps/.
The web page now displays the last version and update date.
what about the mount ???
Hi, plz tell me if ur using any good cycle mount to hold trinity securely on the handle bar? where & how much u bought it for??? Anyone???
After trying Arkon mounts and a few cheapies, I found the best was a metal case,
(like this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Metal-Hard-C...yZ150774QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) attached using double sided tape and a cable tie!
The problem with the Arkon-style mount is that they don't hold the device securely enough and are too bulky.
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Hi Fimae,
I used resco to add a shortcut, but the install program is supposed to put it in 'programs'.
Not sure what you mean by 'cant access menu'. There are about 7 menus, not including popups. Is the main menu visible?
See above about storage card. I'll make it allow you to browse for the storage card the first time it runs.
Thanks for your feedback.
Luke
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I ment that program stops to error dialog, and when i click it ok, application exits without seeing any menus. But now it worked wery well after writing \Storage Card\, thank you wery much.
I know this must be stupid question (like where is the any key) but i really does not understand what kind of form i have to use to copy maps to Bike gps? I have route66 and tomtom navigator maps (and for testing only miomap) in my storage card, i supposed that i cannot use map files from those apps?
Anyone with an iPhone want to hack the Pandora application and see if we can get a version working on Windows Mobile?
You cant just take something from the iphone and port it to window mobile. I have been waiting forever for Pandora on my WM phone, but now I have it on my iPod......so I wouldn't hold out any hope that they will come out with something.
Yeah, I know - what I was hoping is that someone with the application could help us figure out the streaming protocol it uses, and then we could write a WM app to do the same thing. Maybe this is too difficult.
Sounds like a great idea. If it works over wifi the network traffic can be observed etc.
Surur
Dear lord!
Is Pandora still prohibited outside USA???
This is a real shame
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Dear lord!
Is Pandora still prohibited outside USA???
This is a real shame
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Huh? What does that have to do with the original question?
I wish. I love pandora but I can't have it on my phone. One real thing I am jealous about.
i've heard it works with the skyfire browser...but I'm getting the feeling I will never get into that beta. Isn't there a AT&T pandora program? I believe it's a pay to use feature however.
Maybe we should get in contact with the guy who made the standalone windows pandora app, seems it would be much easier to "port" that than an iphone app...which was a terrible suggestion by the way
Skyfire does not work- I have it.
I did email pandora just a couple of weeks ago and they have no plans to support the PPC
Have searched for the ATT install cab but no luck.
I FOUND THIS
i think it already works on some sprint phones as ic on this blod
http://blog.pandora.com/pandora/archives/2007/05/pandora_for_spr.html
There's a Last.FM for Windows Mobile that someone made, it's similar to Pandora. A quick search should turn it up/
Im going to open up pandora and shift though the code, and possibly write an WM6.1 application to intercept and login to their database just like the website.
-This is just an attempt, i will let everyone know the progress as it matures.
-zz
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Im going to open up pandora and shift though the code, and possibly write an WM6.1 application to intercept and login to their database just like the website.
-This is just an attempt, i will let everyone know the progress as it matures.
-zz
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awesome! hopefully you will have success! can't wait!
Well it seems after 3 hours of reading code and downloading every external javascript file, and decompiling the flash files, it turns out that Pandora has an API that isnt being released in wide array. And to my dismay, after 3hours, and not knowing enough of the AS language, i chose to wait until the Pandora APIv2 is publicly release (it has been release to a very few 3rd party companies - yahoo is one for example) to revisit pandora for wm.
-sorry, but like i said it was an attempt.
zeezee said:
Well it seems after 3 hours of reading code and downloading every external javascript file, and decompiling the flash files, it turns out that Pandora has an API that isnt being released in wide array. And to my dismay, after 3hours, and not knowing enough of the AS language, i chose to wait until the Pandora APIv2 is publicly release (it has been release to a very few 3rd party companies - yahoo is one for example) to revisit pandora for wm.
-sorry, but like i said it was an attempt.
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Thanks for trying
At the risk of sounding dumb, here are my half assembled thoughts lacking necessary sleep...
I know Alltel runs BREW, though I'm not sure about Sprint and ATT (not likely). ATT has more than just the iPhone running Pandora, and I'd assume that these phones are all running the program in Java. Otherwise the devs must like doing more work than necessary, or Pandora is trying to find a way to lock this down and make some money.
Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?
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Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?
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tried this, but no luck. if pandora outright doesn't plan to support windows mobile, they can go screw
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...Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?
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My thoughts exactly. Does someone have a RAZR, or another supported AT&T phone, who can visit the URL Pandora sends you?
(which is http:///www.pandora.com/att?)
It seems like Pandora might be a java app. If that's he case, it could easily be pulled from the phone's filesystem, once the "right" phone visited the website and downloaded the app. I'd try it myself with my old RAZR, but my wife nagged me when I upgraded and I threw it away.
EDIT: Yeah, I tried it also. It seems like the stock WinMo 6.1. JVM doesn't support some DRM-related features, so the midlet won't run.
I have the Razr V9M (My old phone). I can see if I can get the file(s). Someone needs to walk me thru which files you need and how to get them. If you want to compare files. If anyone is still trying to get this to work...
Pandora on my phone would rock.
Pandora Application on WM6
Did anybody else attempt to put Pandora in a .cab file besides Zeezee? Looking forward to find out if someone can do it for the WM6 and upload it somewhere.
AT&T 8525 with WM6 (VP3G)
Hi,
I know this is a long shot, but someone more knowledgeable than me might know the answer.
I am keen to use the mobile version of the UK Good Beer Guide Mobile Good Beer Guide. In the FAQs available from the links from the attached page, it says that touch screen and WM phones aren't yet supported, but mysteriously implies that it might be possible to get it working.
Regrettably, the application is not officially supported on the following phones, however a version of the application may still be available:
* Apple iPhone
* Windows Mobile
* Touch screen phones
* Phones released before 2006
* Phones with no internet browser
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I have installed it, the phone recognised the Java files and compiled them. The application shows in the Java link on the programs page, but only shows a white screen when it is started. I was hoping someone could shed some light on the subject. The zip folder contains a .jar and .jad file. He are a couple of links to the downloads SonyEricsson C905 and Samsung GT S5603 as examples of the files.
Is an emulator needed or a certain version of Java?
Cheers.
Wonder why they do it as a mobile application rather than just subscription access to the server the data resides on?
I have the pubs stored in Memory Map and Copilot...don't really need things like tasting notes when I'm somewhere different...just need to know where there is real ale
(given how few phones appear to be supported it would be far easier to say it works on the following: 1, 2 and 3 rather than list hundreds of phones that it won't work on!)
morfis said:
Wonder why they do it as a mobile application rather than just subscription access to the server the data resides on?
I have the pubs stored in Memory Map and Copilot...don't really need things like tasting notes when I'm somewhere different...just need to know where there is real ale
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I have bought the POIs for TomTom, but the mobile version would be better than dragging the paperbook around giving you back ache . I'm also a bit of a real ale geek .
(given how few phones appear to be supported it would be far easier to say it works on the following: 1, 2 and 3 rather than list hundreds of phones that it won't work on!)
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You're not wrong
Only a month until the next (even more bloated?) book comes out. Have e-mailed them about the lack of phone support in the hope they'll sort it out before then (and maybe do native poi files for other satnav/mapping as they have been promising for over a year).......I'm not holding my breath
I just got my self a samsung windows phone 7 and was looking around for a few hours. my question is, Is there a file browser(file explorer) built into WP7. I just cant imagine Microsoft settling with Iphone like interface where you need to sync music a photos and what not.
Simple answer is no and you won't be seeing one from Microsoft any time soon if at all. You can find plenty of threads on this topic if you take the time to search for them.
thank you. yea i would searched but didnt really have time to spare :\
I moved from an HD2 to an HD7 a week ago and thus far I haven't missed having a file browser. In fact I had completely forgotten about it until now.
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Nope, I still don't miss it.
Jim Coleman said:
I moved from an HD2 to an HD7 a week ago and thus far I haven't missed having a file browser. In fact I had completely forgotten about it until now.
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Nope, I still don't miss it.
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It's probably because you don't do things which require that massively.
Like me - I never watch movies on my device so I did never care about missing codecs support.
But that doesn't mean they're not needed.
And BTW, regarding users etc.
The most successfull platform today supports all those missing things
yet it didn't prevent it from boasting a massive success on the market.
I'm probably going to try it this year, there are announcements of upcoming devices in Poland
unfortunately no qwerty ones (HD7,Trophy and this great LG)
doministry said:
It's probably because you don't do things which require that massively.
Like me - I never watch movies on my device so I did never care about missing codecs support.
But that doesn't mean they're not needed.
And BTW, regarding users etc.
The most successfull platform today supports all those missing things
yet it didn't prevent it from boasting a massive success on the market.
I'm probably going to try it this year, there are announcements of upcoming devices in Poland
unfortunately no qwerty ones (HD7,Trophy and this great LG)
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maybe we don't miss it because we are not trying to use our devices as usb sticks (of which most people have several laying around).
The OS was designed that if something is stored on the phone, the proper apps can find them.
I too have not missed having a file explorer. The only reason I ever used it was to install cabs/ tweaks/ mods which are unnecessary on this device.
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maybe we don't miss it because we are not trying to use our devices as usb sticks (of which most people have several laying around).
The OS was designed that if something is stored on the phone, the proper apps can find them.
I too have not missed having a file explorer. The only reason I ever used it was to install cabs/ tweaks/ mods which are unnecessary on this device.
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So I say still - you don't do things which require that. Fine for you.
Composing email with many different attachements is the simple example here, without success on WP7 right now.
Deleting unwanted files on the device en masse is the second.
Currently you cannot even put all the desired files easily on the device with one simple move
Like docs, videos, pics alltogether. Videos are compressed for instance AFAIK before beeing stored.
Zune does not support docs. All is complicated than.
Device's ability to recognize files by an app is not blocking seeing the file structure.
My SE X2 can do it like WP7, but with all the file explorer capabilities.
doministry said:
So I say still - you don't do things which require that. Fine for you.
Composing email with many different attachements is the simple example here, without success on WP7 right now.
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Never needed to do that yet, but I'm sure the ability to do so will come via an update before I need it. It was very, very rare for me to need to do that when I used WM too.
Deleting unwanted files on the device en masse is the second.
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Funny, I just deleted a folder full of photos from my HD7 by tap-holding the folder and pressing "delete".
Currently you cannot even put all the desired files easily on the device with one simple move
Like docs, videos, pics alltogether.
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Docs sync to Skydrive automatically if you use Windows Live Mesh like I do. Videos, Pics and Music all sync over wireless to the phone via Zune. How hard is that? Drag 'n' drop.
Erm...have you actually USED WP7?
Videos are compressed for instance AFAIK before beeing stored.
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Yep, so are photos and music, all squeezed down to fit the phone's screen and memory. You don't HAVE to let Zune squeeze them, but it's an option I use extensively. No need for a 10Megapixel image on a 480x800 screen. No need for my mp3s to be more than 128Kbps either when using a bluetooth headset.
Zune does not support docs. All is complicated than.
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No the docs sync via Windows Live Mesh. Sheesh. It's all automated.
As mentioned before, just do a proper search for the answer of the thread, the other comments are off again and do not contribute.