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OK the last few days I finally rooted tried a few ROMS and seem to run into all sorts of issues that have got me to this point...
Redux: Home and Search Buttons stop working
CM7: Cannot get Marketplace
Oxygen: Will not load
Miui: Did not like it
Now I cannot clear Davlik Cache which I am sure is causing a lot of issues. I never made an original back up before all this.
Question: How do I clear all this crud off as if I never installed a ROM and was going to for the first time? How do I get access to Dalvik Cache? I just want CM7 or Redux to work and not have any issues but I obviously did something wrong at some points. If I clear all the contents off my SD card except the Redux install will I be free and clear? Or is there something in the phones internals I need to do also?
I am also tempted to just return it to complete stock and start all over if I have to. Any suggestions would be great and appreciated. If you need more info let me know....
TYIA
I have an evo so Idk your procedure to get to your recovery image but that's where u need to go when u rooted u should have installed one hopefully amon recovery then once u get into recovery there will be a wipe option then do all the wipe options and u will have a clean cache and be ready to install a new rom. And as far as cm7 goes with u not having a market u gotta make sure u flash the gapps after u boot into the rom so its a 2 part process. Im sure that if u search engine u can find a guide specific to your phone explaing how to access the recovery from a phone off state. But id guess that if u hold vol down while pressing power it will prolly pop up with the bootloader then u can pick recovery from the menu but Idk for sure cuz I don't have ur phone but im sure there is a guide for u if use a search engine
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have you been flashing each rom over the other without doing any wipes?
The first ROM or two I did without a wipe (noob)
I flashed GAPPS twice and still no market but all other Google Apps. Besides that CM7 was good. I did run into an issue where I could not sync with GMAIL but factory reset took care of that.
Also I am on Unrevoked
- For each flash it is better to wipe everything including "dalvik cache".
- Have you read the prerequisites of each ROM before flashing like recommended radio+RIL, S-Off+nand partition table (CM7, Bravo, etc.), and/or EXT partition/s?
It would be very wise to read/learn and ask around first before doing anything st*p*d which could brick your Desire.
Now...to have at least a working desire.
Flash a rooted stock ROM if you do not have any EXT partition.
[edit] or any simple A2SD+ ROM if you have an EXT partition on your SD-Card. Stay away from Data2EXT, Data2whatever, CM7, etc.at this point of time because you need to learn more first. [end of edit]
Learn more and flash the any ROM you want after proper preparations
Thanks..
Like I said though Dalvik cache will not get wiped as Recovery keeps telling me it cannot mount, but will mount the card.
One thing I never did was partition the SD card and its just one big mess. I think a lot of stuff has been installed on the actual Desire itself.
Clipse79 said:
Thanks..
Like I said though Dalvik cache will not get wiped as Recovery keeps telling me it cannot mount, but will mount the card.
One thing I never did was partition the SD card and its just one big mess. I think a lot of stuff has been installed on the actual Desire itself.
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Just wipe everything from recovery, and I would also wipe and reformat the sd.
Then you can flash whatever with no conflicts!
Hey guys I need help. Anyone have a link to the latest rooted stock rom? How is cynogenmod these days? Is it worth making the switch? Whats the most popular rom these days?
jkj said:
Hey guys I need help. Anyone have a link to the latest rooted stock rom? How is cynogenmod these days? Is it worth making the switch? Whats the most popular rom these days?
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Freeza always has the latest stock rooted ROM over in this thread. It's always updated shortly after each OTA is dropped (currently at MB1).
You can see my setup in my sig. I like it a lot!
CM10.1 nightlies are good, and a lot of the AOSP (4.2.2) ROMs are really stable. There are a lot of reasons to stay with TW ROMs and a lot of reasons to move over to AOSP, AOKP, and other ROMs (MIUI, etc). My recommendation would be to update your recovery to the latest (see my sig for the link to the latest TWRP, search for the latest CWM) and just flash away. As long as you stick to Sprint ROMs and nandroid up whenever you can, it's getting difficult to brick your phone.
jkj said:
I downloaded the stock odexed zip and odin but it doesnt seem like the right file type for odin to flash?
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First off, you're going to need to have a custom recovery, if you don't already have one (most people do after they originally flash their phone). There are many guides to do this, just follow one of qbking77's great tutorials. I'd recommend using TWRP, but the latest CWM works well also.
Now that you have a custom recovery, you can try the following and it might get you out of the bootloop:
In the custom recovery, clear (wipe) both cache and dalvik cache. Then reboot the phone (reboot menu -> system).
If the above doesn't work to get you through the bootloop, try the instructions below:
Now that you have a custom recovery, you need to get the files onto your phone. Since you cannot turn your phone on to download it or connect through USB, you'll have to do it through recovery. Since I use TWRP, I'll walk you through the menu's for that (CWM should be similar).
Connect USB cable to computer -> Mount Menu -> Mount USB Storage.
Now your computer should see a "removable disk" with the contents of your SD Card on it. Now you can copy the ROM you downloaded over to the SD Card.
Now that the file is actually on the phone, you can flash the ROM zip in recovery. Whenever you do this, it's best to do what is called a "full wipe" in the recovery. You'll lose all your apps, settings, etc but it's much better than having a paperweight. In TWRP, what I always do is the following:
1) Nandroid backup: I normally name it something along the lines of "2013-03-14 - ROM NAME - ROM VERSION." This way, when I look through my backups, I can easily see what I was running (what I'm restoring when I want to restore).
2) Wipe Menu - Factory Reset. This will wipe all custom data off of the phone. For me, this is a must before flashing any new ROM. Other people will "dirty flash" Roms on top of each other. For me, that's a recipe for disaster, as any leftover settings/code will inevitably interfere with the new ROM and will mess things up.
3) Wipe Menu - Dalvik Cache and Cache: If I recall correctly, the Factory Reset does both of these, but it doesn't hurt to do it again.
4) Install: This is where you find the ROM zip file you downloaded and install it. Should take less than a minute, but some larger ROMs could take a little longer (not 10 minutes, though).
3) Wipe Menu - Dalvik Cache and Cache: Again, not technically required, but I tend to wipe the cache and dalvik cache very often.
3) Reboot Menu - System: Pretty self-explanatory, but it'll reboot your phone and you can set it up all over again.
In the future, it's best to have Titanium Backup to back up apps and data (For me it's worth the cost to upgrade to Pro). I have mine set up to backup all data every night at 3 am, with a maximum of 5 backups per app. This gives me almost a week of backups that I can restore for every app I have installed. The only thing to keep in mind with TiB is that you can backup/restore system apps that won't work with a new ROM. For example, if I backed up the Samsung Connection Optimizer on the stock rooted ROM and tried to restore it to LiquidSmooth (a 4.2.2 AOSP ROM), it wouldn't work. In fact, it could mess things up on my new ROM. So you might want to pick and choose system apps (RED items) carefully when you're restoring. Next time you want to try out a new ROM (or if you need to restore again because of a bootloop), you can just restore your apps/settings through TiB and not go through 2 hours of setting up all your settings again (for me I like that I can restore all the wifi access spots settings... saves me from explaining why I need my friend's WEP key for the fifth time this month).
Anyways, this post has turned into a novel. Please let me know if you have any more questions (and CNexus or anyone else can correct anything that's wrong)
I got it going by wiping cache and data. I should've tried with just cache wiped. Its annoying to have to redo everything but better than a brick.
Now for some reason my wifi wont turn on. Reflashed again now I'm good to go.
Ok, completely new with this. I did a basic root, got superuser cwm and busybox from my understanding. I used Samsung Galaxy Toolkit v7.0.0
I would like to install the MoAR onto my phone. But I'm not 100% sure how to do so. I have Odin v3.4, I was going to do it as a PDA file. But I don't see anything that says it's a .tar file.
If someone could point me in the right direction, or a video would be great.
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Ok, completely new with this. I did a basic root, got superuser cwm and busybox from my understanding. I used Samsung Galaxy Toolkit v7.0.0
I would like to install the MoAR onto my phone. But I'm not 100% sure how to do so. I have Odin v3.4, I was going to do it as a PDA file. But I don't see anything that says it's a .tar file.
If someone could point me in the right direction, or a video would be great.
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I'm going to assume you're able to boot into a custom recovery (CWM). I persoanlly use TWRP, but either will work well for this. If you can't go through the root process again, based on qbking77's thread. Check out the videos and learn how to use Odin to gain root and a custom recovery. (always good to take a refresher course).
Here are directions on how to flash a Rom below. The instructions will be for TWRP, but CWM has similar options/settings
Make sure the zip of the Rom you downloaded is on your externalSD Card or the root directory of your internal memory.
Turn your phone completely off (hold down power for 3-5 seconds)
Boot your phone into recovery. Hold Up, Menu, and Power for a few seconds (until SAMSUNG appears on your screen and the phone vibrates)
Make a Nandroid backup. I can't emphasize this enough. In flashing, it's a certainty that at least one time, something will mess up. When that happens, you want to be able to restore a backup. In TWRP, just go into Backup Menu and choose where you want it (internal vs. External storage). It takes my phone a few (5-10) minutes to completely backup my data.
In TWRP, click the wipe button, then system. This will completely wipe the Rom from your phone. Doing this will allow you to get a "clean" install, without any settings or leftover files from your old Rom getting in the way. Instead, you could only wipe data (factory reset), which is good enough for most Roms. I'd still recommend a system wipe, though, as you never know exactly what might be left over from your old Rom (especially when going from 4.1.X to 4.2.X or vice-versa).
Also while in the Wipe menu, wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache (can't hurt).
Go back to the TWRP main menu.
Click Install, then find your Rom zip file (may have to switch from internal to external storage).
Let TWRP do it's thing.
MOAR rom already installed. If, in the future, you flash an AOSP Rom, you should now flash the correct gapps package from goo.im. Make sure you're flashing the correct one, as if you don't, your google apps will force close upon use.
Reboot into system and give it time to boot (first boot sometimes takes a couple of minutes).
Set up your phone the way you like.
These should be the directions to follow whenever you flash a new Rom. Some Roms (such as the MOAR Rom) have the Aroma installer, so you'll have more options once you choose to flash the Rom zip, but those are typically easy to follow (and vary from Rom to Rom, so I won't be able to give you a good guide on that).
Hope this helps!
I could tell you but from what you're asking, honestly I think it's better not to and to force you to read a lot more. I am pretty new to this stuff too, joined this site in like march but I did about 3 weeks worth of reading before I rooted and flashed my first ROM. I'm not trying to be mean here but the question you're asking will be the least of your worries once you read a little more. I recommend you read this Q&A thread, it's also at the top of the Q&A forum.
Edit: It seems good guy topherk here gave you the info, I stand by what I said though, from a fellow newbie to another
jrodcamaro said:
Ok, completely new with this. I did a basic root, got superuser cwm and busybox from my understanding. I used Samsung Galaxy Toolkit v7.0.0
I would like to install the MoAR onto my phone. But I'm not 100% sure how to do so. I have Odin v3.4, I was going to do it as a PDA file. But I don't see anything that says it's a .tar file.
If someone could point me in the right direction, or a video would be great.
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Download the rom on your pc and transfer it to your sd card or internal sd card on your phone. Don't put the rom zip file in any folders as it's easier to find, commonly referred to as the root of your sd card. Power off your phone if your still on stock, after it shuts down hold the volume up button+the home button and then hold power button, this will take you to your custom recovery. First thing to do once in your recovery is make backup of your current rom, make sure you have at least 3GB free space on either your sd or internal sd, some backups can be even bigger, if you don't have space it should tell you. After your backup is done, wipe cache, dalvik cache, factory reset and then flash your rom, after it's done and you see it was successful, fix permissions and reboot...you should be good to go at that point. If all is running well you can boot back into cwm, select restore and only restore /data, to get all your apps and their data back, fix permissions again and reboot. You can use titanium backup or my backup root /pro to restore apps and data but personally I don't prefer those methods. If you have any issues, restore your backup and try again.
I see I was slow again as topherk said everything and then some lol...still posting this just in case it helps at all.
Edit; just to throw it out there I'll tell you how I do things, once your more experienced this could make flashing roms, kernels, tweaks ect, easier. I always make a backup first before I switch roms. Then I simply wipe cache, dalvik cache, flash new rom and fix permissions....reboot and enjoy, this is known as a dirty flash, some roms don't dirty flash well, some work great.
Also I always 100% of the time download roms, kernels ect straight from my phone, never had a bad download that I'm aware of, I don't check md5 sums, I just verify the size of the dl matches what I dl'd. My dl's go to my download folder on my ext sd card so when I go into recovery, I know to look in my download folder on the ext sd card.
Other things to note about dirty flashing if you choose to do it, figure out your rom issues quietly and it can't hurt to try dirty flashing if you always remember rule#1.....make a backup first. If you get stuck in a boot loop, just pull the battery, put it back in and 3 button boot to recovery and restore your backup.
Yeah, the main reason I prefer a clean flash is that when people dirty flash, any and all problems will not be supported by the developer. And since the person is asking how to flash a Rom, I doubt that they'd know what to do with a FC. I'd prefer if they would do a clean flash until they get used to it. I do all my app backups in Titanium Backup, and even then I have to be careful not to restore something that might mess up the new Rom.
Anyways, I really liked your advice with the backups: if you're ever stuck in a bootloop, you can just restore your backup. I recently tried out a new Rom that I wasn't too fond of, and in a few minutes was back to my LiquidSmooth. No sweat.
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Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
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First flash cwm recovery with odin then you can back up your stock rom
thank you but...
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
EDIT 2: I noticed my memory in the android is full. It means that nandroid online DID backup, apparently sucessfully. All I need is to find it and test it.
Assuming it will restore my system to the way it is I can finally get to try some paranoid android mods.
Also, has an alternative. Do you think I could simply lookup and download the official stock rom and, in case something goes wrong, simply reinstall it?
Thaenor said:
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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The thing is... I barely know what Odin is. From what I saw on google I can't even run that on Mac (I have another pc with Windows just in case).
And I'm not even sure what links to follow if the Rom recovery (I just want to do a backup) or the clockwork mod...
Wouldn't it be easier if I just downloaded the official ROM and used that one has my backup?
u can use dd shell instead of odin just search how to use it , for stock rom thats flashable through cwm recovery then i guess ull find one thats XXLM8 based in the forum or u can build one urself using ur windows pc and dsixda's kitchen (but it will take u some time to install the kitchen and know how to use it), for nandroid backups 3 things are recommended : 1- free space on either internal or external sdcard 2- root access to make sure everything is ok (at least thats my opinion) 3- either CWM or TWRP recoveries
my advice is to backup the EFS folder which is much more important than the rom itself (ull find a thread on how to backup & restore it) and also ull find that ull depend on ICS & JB based roms in the future that ull rarely go back to stock
I tried to backup to SD card through the clockworkmod in recovery mode and it worked.
I tried to restore it and it restored my system... I think. To the same state.
Now I'm having a different problem. I have instaled cyanogen mod paranoid android, but unfortunately the phone get's stuck in the boot animation with the scrolling android eyes.
Can anyone please help me.
PS: I had to ultimately put the backup to the test. The custom Rom was not working at all! here is the link to the rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Luckly the backup worked and restored my stock ROM putting everything back in place. *phew*
The question remains... where can I find a good ROM with paranoid android for my galaxy W?
Have you wiped /system & /data & /cache before installing the paranoid ??
for paranoid u can check newer paranoid roms cuz this one seems abit old, also check pacman roms cuz i guess they're usually built on paranoid
I (wrongly) assumed that an older rom would mean a more stable one. But here's to topics I would like to clear.
here's what I did all in clockwork mod:
.cleaned cache
.cleaned Dalvik cache
.fixed permitions
.installed the ROM
.installed GAPPS right afterwards
.reboot
1. Is there a COMPLETELY stable ROM for Galaxy W with ICS or Jelly Bean?
2. Where can I find updated ROMs of paranoid android or this packman you mentioned? I have a hard time finding thrustworthy ROM's and even more checking reviews and comments to make sure it works or what sort of problems people have with them.
Thank you once again, my Galaxy Wonder is doing fine. I'm back to the original ROM and I haven't lost anything (that I noticed). I have 2 backups on my SD card that are taking up 2GB of space but I'm too scared to move them to my PC, afraid that they won't work after I move them.
you shall wipe /data & /system (this will wipe all ur apps, contacts & sms but its an essential step as ur shifting from GB to ICS or JB)
this pacman (cm10.1 based) has hybrid properties and is the most updated so far : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218224
If you want stability. I recommend CM9 RC 9
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
Thaenor said:
ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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there's actually a 4th question.
4 - with a new rom, I will also be installing a new version of Gapps right? Does that mean that apps that couldn't be installed on my phone will now be available? Like the Chrome navigator or the new game Kingdom Rush.
ok lets start answering all questions in order
1. making a backup using CWM recovery (we name it nandroid backup) will backup ur a)system (it has the base files of the rom that will stay the same even if u make a factory reset, but surely thr content data will b deleted), b)cache, c)data (data means the apps and their data not the media that r stored on sdcard "a nandroid backup will not restore the images of a whats app conversation if the whats app folder is deleted from ur sdcard") d)kernel (named boot.img) & e)recovery (which is the same recovery itself u used to make the backup) ..... nandroid backup will not backup boot loader (which u dont have to worry about cuz u wont b able to solve it urself) and EFS folder (which u surely have to worry about cuz its easily backupable and restored if anythn happens to it)
2. cm9 is ICS 4.0.x .... cm10 is JB 4.1.x .... cm10.1 is JB 4.2.x .... stock rom for our wonder is GB 2.3.6 ............. All of them r different bases for android and to change between them its always preferable to make a full wipe not to have conflicts like boot loops or apps force close
2.1 each base has its kernel even if it has the same version number (i.e. same processing manner) cuz it shall be modified for each base to work on it properly
2.2 yes kernels r updatable for each base (u can c an example if u go to arco's cm threads and c the changelog)
3. go pristine is a term introduced by a great xda member here called pepoluan and it means full wipe of the phone to make sure u have a clean install of whatever u want (thrs a thread in general section for how to go pristine)
4. Gapps (aka Google apps) depend on which base u r , u can't install JB gapps for ICS , some of the apps that the gapps zip contains are updatable while some of them cant be updated (e.g. the newest google search cant b updated to ICS so ull have to stick with what the ICS gapps provided u) and finally u can c how the gapps are classified in this simple link http://goo.im/gapps
Any further question ??
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Ah , about the stability, so far here all the bases are quite stable but if ur looking for the most stable then try cm9 based roms
the more updates the base gets (cm9 has the most updates so far) the more stable it gets cuz they fix the bugs of the older versions and u can check that from the changelog of every rom, so never think about staying on an older rom if thrs a newer more stable version of it
Actually yes, I hope I'm not pushing my luck here, but every time I dig a little deeper into the Android OS I find new and complicated tutorials and questions. At first I just thought it was as simple as downloading Titanium backup and them installing new ROM's.
Then I find out that backing up the OS ins't as simple as that. THEN there are other "smalls things" that actually turn up rather complicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I understand. Certain apps, like Kingdom Rush aren't available on my Wonder because the GAPPs version doesn't allow it. If I were to install a JB rom for example, then it would probably allow that game to be installed, because it would require a new version of GAPPs.
1. So assuming I don't mind about reinstalling the apps (but I have those backed up anyway), I also backed up my contacts, messages and call logs. Added to a nandroid backup should be enough to guarantee that I can go back to my first version, in case something goes wrong?
(that and the EFS which I will have to look into later)
1.1 - should I update my clockwork mod first? I'm not sure which version I have, but should I expect it to have a big impact on the process?
2. The android inner phone memory is split in two correct? One of the partition is called SD card and is usually in the path /mnt/SDcard or similar.
If I do this "going pristine" and clean up everything, will I have to remake the partitions?
2.1 I also have an external SD card. A full factory wipe (which I assume is the same as to say "go pristine") won't affect it correct? (either I'm removing it during the process (just in case))
I just hate in the phone lags and freezes. But I also suck at typing on a touchscreen so I really need Swiftkey, I even bought the app and it works nicely, but it is a little heavy and I notice the phone takes a few seconds to load it. I also need Dolphin browser because of the browser syncing feature (so I can see the tabs from chrome there).
Is the Pacman rom you recomended earlier fluid? Or should I expect it to be laggy with these slightly heavy apps?
thanks for the help so far
First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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1 & 1.1 - I feel more at ease now
2 I kinda figured that there were more partitions(by messing with cmw) but I found it odd that there were so many partitions. I guess that explains that.
I use a file explored and I'm a bit OCD'ish about where I keep my stuff, so all of media is mostly in SD card and probably backed up more times than I'd like.
If some apps may be incompatible and it's best not to restore the data from apps since it's a new ROM and may cause incompatibility I might as well just install them from scratch, at least that way I can rid of those apps I never really used but I didn't want to delete (you know, like Shazam, I rarely use it, but I want it around just in case)
My only last question seems to already be answered (which was how to repartition the phone memories). So you're saying that by doing the factory reset the partitions will not be affected (let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)?
So at this point all I need to do is go to recovery mode, select factory reset for each of the partitions, clearing them one by one, then clear cache, dalvik cache and then select "install rom from external SD card" and after that just hit "fix permissions", a reboot and I'd be good to go?
PS: I'm going to try Kii keyboard. But I feel kinda bad not using Swiftkey since I already payed for it and all... that's what you get for buying apps XD (fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version)
Maybe I should go back to the alphanumeric keyboards... bigger buttons pressed more times... not the best but... I miss my blackberry keyboard, I typed in that thing like a lightning.
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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I assume the desired partions would be all, in my case since I'm going pristine. I'm going to try this later this weekend. And walking in the street and tryping without looking (which even that I don't think I can do) would be a great asset, since when facing direct light you can barely see anything on the Wonder's screen. I wish the glass was anti reflexion.
Hey everyone,
the thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383146) for the CleanROM doesn't provide any instruction on the installation process.
Does anyone know a guide where this ROM is explained?
Right now I am on stock 4.4.2 unlocked & rooted + SuperSU and BusyBox.
I also fully backuped all my apps with the Helium App to Google Drive, so I hope I'm ready to go for a custom rom.
best regards,
daZza
I was just in the middle of posting almost the exact same thing. I have a nexus 7 2013. when I download the cleanroom to the tablet then try to install it from the recovery screen it just says "install failed"
Is there a way to install this from a PC?
I guess now we wait?
When you install a rom, do a complete wipe first after backing your stuff up then install rom. If it says install failed, unmount system
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When you install a rom, do a complete wipe first after backing your stuff up then install rom. If it says install failed, unmount system
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Unmount from what?
I tried "wipe data/factory reset" and "wipe cache partition", is that considered "a complete wipe?
The easiest way I have found to install any custom rom is with a custom recovery, TWRP. You can find your way by using Goo Manager, available from the Play Store for free. Google is your friend and I am sure a search for TWRP and/or Goo Manager will make you happy. I have Clean Rom on my Nexus 7 and it is really nice. If you are unlocked and rooted you should have zero problems..
There is no instructions because it's very standard way to install. Not trying to be mean but the expectation on XDA is that you will do at least some homework before starting to flash ROMS.
You should be on 4.2.2 already for the best install of CR.
Assuming you are rooted and have a custom recovery. (if you are not gets Wugs Tookit which walk you right through the process of unlocking, rooting and installing TWRP)
1 download CleanROM to your device or download it and transfer it to your device using a PC
2 boot into recovery. Get quick boot from the play store to make booting into recovery easy (you might need to be rooted for this, not sure). Other wise power off and then boot up holding the power button and Vol down button until you get the Google logo.
3 In TWRP go into Wipe
You only need to do the Swipe to Factory Reset - which means you lose all your apps and settings. It will fundamentally be like when you bought it. (If you haven't unlocked your device yet, when you unlock you will lose your data).
To Wipe swipe to Factory Reset. No need to do anything else with system, format data, etc. The install of CleanROM format System as part of the install. (I've probably done 25 installs of CR and I've never needed to do anything other than Swipe to Reset.
4 Click on the home Icon in TWRP to go the home page in TWRP
5 Go into Install
6 Navigate to where you downloaded CleanROM
7 Select it by tapping on it
8 Swipe to confirm flash.
When it finishes, you are done. Hit reboot system and you will be in CleanROM. You will need to go through the Google Setup again. Profit
I had a deuce of a time trying to install CleanROM last August after just getting my Nexus 7. My SOP is to erase boot, cache, recovery, system and userdata (what would be considered overkill, but I do it to ensure everything's clean), which I did before flashing the first custom recovery. Under CWM, the installation would leave me in an eternal boot animation. Under TWRP, the Aroma installer would simply freeze. Scott and I e-mailed back and forth a number of times, and he'd never heard of anyone with the same problem. Then I found under CWM, it worked fine if I first formatted /system and then the option to format /cache and /data.
Pandae said:
I had a deuce of a time trying to install CleanROM last August after just getting my Nexus 7. My SOP is to erase boot, cache, recovery, system and userdata (what would be considered overkill, but I do it to ensure everything's clean), which I did before flashing the first custom recovery. Under CWM, the installation would leave me in an eternal boot animation. Under TWRP, the Aroma installer would simply freeze. Scott and I e-mailed back and forth a number of times, and he'd never heard of anyone with the same problem. Then I found under CWM, it worked fine if I first formatted /system and then the option to format /cache and /data.
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Dude these are people new to flashing. You are misleading people about what they 'should' do. The people looking for 'guides' are going to end up nuking the OS and will be in this forum asking about being bricked.
Your information is outdated. Clean ROM has not been on Aroma since V2 (maybe even before 2.0) and yes you are in the VAST minority of people having problems installing CleanROM coming from stock, or really any ROM if they did a 'clean' install.
I'm no expert, I'm good at following directions, and I have been flashing ROM's/Kernels/Mods/Themes on six devices now over the last 4 years. I'm on XDA just about everyday in the development threads reading the problems that other people are having and getting help with my own problems. AOSP, AOKP, CM, Paranoid, I've run them all.
TWRP is the Recovery recommended by the Dev of CleanROM.
A normal clean install is cache/dalvik/reset data. 99% of the time that is all you need. It's done in one step in TWRP. On the Wipe page in TWRP -Swipe to reset, done. That's why the Devs for TWRP made it one step. It is the recommended way to install a ROM.
Read just about any Dev's ROM thread and this is what they will say to do this as the recommended CLEAN install. The install to do if you are trying to solve a problem, if you only wiped Cache/Dalvik, what is called a Dirty Flash. People do a dirty flash to avoid having to restore their device and if you are only changing version of the same ROM, it's usually OK, But the first advice for any kind of instability will be did you do a "clean install".
Some Devs will add to format system to their instructions for installing their ROM. But just about all ROMs now format system as part of the install. But it hurts nothing to do it, it just typically not needed.
To go a step further you can format data which will wipe all user/app data that hasn't been wiped yet. This is given as advice when more basic trouble shooting steps have failed. Format Data is under under the Wipe Section in TWRP. It will ask you to confirm that is what you want to do because it is not a typical step in doing a 'clean' install.
At this point most people who still are having problems or just want to feel like they are starting with a CLEAN setup will just 'go back' to stock, take the OTA's if they need/want to, and then re-root and flash the ROM they want.
UNLESS you are trying to solve a very specific problem, most likely under the guidance of someone seriously knowledgeable (Dev), you do not need to do more than this.
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Dude these are people new to flashing. You are misleading people about what they 'should' do. The people looking for 'guides' are going to end up nuking the OS and will be in this forum asking about being bricked.
Your information is outdated. Clean ROM has not been on Aroma since V2 (maybe even before 2.0) and yes you are in the VAST minority of people having problems installing CleanROM coming from stock, or really any ROM if they did a 'clean' install.
I'm no expert, I'm good at following directions, and I have been flashing ROM's/Kernels/Mods/Themes on six devices now over the last 4 years. I'm on XDA just about everyday in the development threads reading the problems that other people are having and getting help with my own problems. AOSP, AOKP, CM, Paranoid, I've run them all.
TWRP is the Recovery recommended by the Dev of CleanROM.
A normal clean install is cache/dalvik/reset data. 99% of the time that is all you need. It's done in one step in TWRP. On the Wipe page in TWRP -Swipe to reset, done. That's why the Devs for TWRP made it one step. It is the recommended way to install a ROM.
Read just about any Dev's ROM thread and this is what they will say to do this as the recommended CLEAN install. The install to do if you are trying to solve a problem, if you only wiped Cache/Dalvik, what is called a Dirty Flash. People do a dirty flash to avoid having to restore their device and if you are only changing version of the same ROM, it's usually OK, But the first advice for any kind of instability will be did you do a "clean install".
Some Devs will add to format system to their instructions for installing their ROM. But just about all ROMs now format system as part of the install. But it hurts nothing to do it, it just typically not needed.
To go a step further you can format data which will wipe all user/app data that hasn't been wiped yet. This is given as advice when more basic trouble shooting steps have failed. Format Data is under under the Wipe Section in TWRP. It will ask you to confirm that is what you want to do because it is not a typical step in doing a 'clean' install.
At this point most people who still are having problems or just want to feel like they are starting with a CLEAN setup will just 'go back' to stock, take the OTA's if they need/want to, and then re-root and flash the ROM they want.
UNLESS you are trying to solve a very specific problem, most likely under the guidance of someone seriously knowledgeable (Dev), you do not need to do more than this.
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I'm hardly "new" to flashing, and note what I said: "last August," when CleanROM was still using Aroma. Duh.
Under CWM, trying to format "data" after I've done a full wipe produces an error, which right now escapes me. But formatting /system and then /cache and /data works. Like I said, it's considered overkill by most, but it's how I got CleanROM to install. Why is my 2013 N7 unusually affected, as was the first one I had to exchange for a bad pixel? You tell me. It's probably the same reason a supposed small minority of units have had touchscreen, GPS and reboot problems. But I know what works on mine, and my unusual situation is all I'm relating. I'm not advising the guy to do anything I have, or to pass herbs over his N7 to improve his luck. Duh.
CWM is my preference. TWRP may have certain advantages, but I prefer CWM's interface. And I could never get CleanROM to install under it anyway. You tell me why that happens, "Dude."
Please I think both of you have valid points. I just want mine to work and "whippin it out and slapping it on the table" solves nothing
I am pulling my hair out because NOTHING I am trying is working, it just seems that working on these things goes like this...
1. install cleanroom 2.6, in order to do this you will need TWRP if you don't have TWRP see next step
2. install TWRP in order to do this you will need fastboot if you don't have fastboot see next step
3. install fastboot in order to do this you will need clock work mod if you don't have CWM see next step
4. in order to have clock work mod you either need a cleanroom 2.6 installed (see step 1) or a F%^$^%$G!! PhD in tablet engineering
I have spent 20 hours now trying to get this to come online and work and it seems that every time I get one step forward I need to take 10 steps back and read 20 pages online which ends up being either obsolete or for a different tablet or is not for me at all.
Everyone on these forums speak from a place of complete understanding having already done this a million times. I have wasted so much time on this stupid tablet and I could sure use a hand straightening it out.
right now my tablet will NOT install new programs. so installing goo manager, fastboot on the tablet is not an option. I can get into CWM and monkey around in there. I can download the TWRP.img to the tablet and also to my PC. I also have cleanroom 2.6 on the tablet in .zip form but it will not install.
I am not adverse to reading, but there is 4 years of reading all over the internet and I have no clue where to even start to find something relevant to solve my problem. All the reading I have done so far has brought me to a half bricked tablet, a little life experience would go a lot further for me than trying to figure this out on my own in the abyss that is the internet
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But formatting /system and then /cache and /data works.
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No, it doesn't, I do not have TWRP installed on the tablet (cause im too stupid to figure it out). here is what I am doing
1. start in recovery mode
2. Mounts and Storage
3. Format system >>> Yes
4. Format Cache >>>> Yes
5. Format Data >>> yes
I tried changing "unmount data" to mount
still every time I try to install cleanROM2.6 the android man falls over and I get a red ! in his chest, it keeps saying installation aborted.
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But formatting /system and then /cache and /data works.
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No, it doesn't, I do not have TWRP installed on the tablet (cause im too stupid to figure it out). here is what I am doing
1. start in recovery mode
2. Mounts and Storage
3. Format system >>> Yes
4. Format Cache >>>> Yes
5. Format Data >>> yes
6. go back
7. wipe Data factory reset
8. wipe cache partition
9. advanced
10 wipe dalvik cache
I even tried changing "unmount system" to "mount system"
still every time I try to install cleanROM2.6 the android man falls over and I get a red ! in his chest, it keeps saying installation aborted.
I am at the end of my rope, now it is bricked, it just sits on a black screen with "google" in the middle. I can still get into clockwork recovery mode.
If I try and use wugfresh thing it will not recognize the device connected.
Aside from getting into a geek fight, is there anyone on these forums I can go to with this problem?
Did you get my PM? To avoid wasting time troubleshooting, I'd use fastboot to wipe, then use CWM to format /system, /cache and /data+/data/media.
I just got it and I responded
Now we're set on the right road, finally! Bonne chance, mon ami.
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When you install a rom, do a complete wipe first after backing your stuff up then install rom. If it says install failed, unmount system
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Thanks, that's all I needed to know. Worked like a charm and was done after a few minutes. I just wasn't sure what kind of wipe I need to do in TWRP and if I need to re-unlock or re-root the device after installing the custom rom. Sorry for the late response