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SUPER video encoder?

I read many threads in the forum regarding video on the HD and after hours spent trailing through a post which is now locked I settled on SUPER encoding to flash FLV files... only problem is if I feed it a 1.4gb H264 file (which the HD cant play) it ends up at 2.6Gb I still run the stock SD card 8Gb.
Am I missing a setting? I really wanna sort the video out on my HD! but would like the movies to stay similar size to the original rip....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good

pureheart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Yep treid that one too... the files always end up waaaaay bigger than the orginal... I tried a 4Gb BRrip with that and it came out almost the size of the flash card....

Then you selected the wrong bitrate.
Assuming your movie is 90 minutes long, then using the "HD" setting bitrate of 750kbit/s your movie will be (750*60*90)/8/1024 = 494 MB.
What you are stating is not possible, unless your movie is 10 hours long or you manually entered an insanely high bitrate, such as 7500kbit/s, which is completely useless and which the Touch HD can not handle anyway.
The tool is coded for simplicity. If you don't understand what anything does, then you just add the files, select the output dir and press "start". Experimenting around by setting random options which you do not fully understand obviously will result in spectacular failure most of the time. So I recommend you to try it again. If it doesn't work, then let me know and I will fix it.
All this said, if you rather not use my GUI, then you can get an acceptable result with SUPER by using iPhone profile. The quality will be worse, seeking might be broken and it might slow down sometimes, but other than that, it should work.

I used a Blue Ray rip.... 4.5Gig..... it ended up at almost 6Gig....
I used the HD GUI you made because it was so easy.... just remoting into my server to see how the next one I'm trying is getting on.....

Have you tried using WinFF ~ http://winff.org/html/
I used to use SUPER but changed to WinFF because:-
1. It is quicker.
2. File sizes are smaller.
3. It is very easy to use.
4. It supports a number of devices including Mobile Phones, iPod etc.

Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?

Geeba said:
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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What settings on WinFF did you use to encode the video?

Ahhh... not got round to using that one yet... I was using the HD GUI made by projection, 4.5gb Blue ray rip source, 800x480 output.

Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...

Geeba said:
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player

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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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I had no idea there was one? Is it installed from the factory? I cant seem to find it?

atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...

another option to watch Movies "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)"
You can install "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)" and play those .avi movies (DivX, Xvid, etc) without converting. You can download here: http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
It works fine for me... I'm using 8Gb microSD...

crashDebug said:
atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
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Where do I find the HTC player?
I've just tried DivX player... its not really as good as Core on mine for some reason... ?

Would really appreciate a pointer on GPU accelerated player
I've treid M$ media player... wont play it... core player not enough grunt and the HTC player people speak of... I cant find? searched all of my HD programs..

Dude, just skim along the TF3D menu to Photos and Videos.
If your video's in the default album it will appear as a thumbnail here if it isn't just use the Album button to browse to it.
Basically the HTC player they're on about i launched when you click on a thumbnail in the TF3D Photo's and Video's screen (or browse to an album location).
Yup - it was there all the time

Thanks mate... I understand now...
I guess MP4 isnt supported.... my movies arent there...

Best Video Player for TP2?

I am trying to find a good player for .avi, .mpeg4, etc. for my TP2. I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
Thanks!

The WMP supports avi and mp4. And it works!

Hmm, it does not work for me. That is strange.

dcam1075 said:
I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
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Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".

Try Core Player. It is amazing... it is also running via network (wifi)

the best video player is coreplayer

Aqrab said:
the best video player is coreplayer
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The impression I get from reading these fora is that CorePlayer may be the best but that it's still not actually particularly good, as it is unable to benefit from any of the hardware acceleration provided by the Qualcomm chipset - this being HTC's fault for providing dodgy or non-existent drivers. It seems like this is a major weakness of the TP2.

Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.

What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.

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Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
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Let me get this straight... Your saying it's not HTC's fault because you think they didn't know they were buying chipsets without drivers from Qualcomm. To me it sounds like they cheaped out and screwed consumers.
I highly doubt its a misunderstanding and I'm not afraid to place blame because I'm more than certain HTC knew what they were doing otherwise they wouldn't keep ordering more of the same chipset to produce new phones.
If this were really the case I would assume we would see slightly different hardware or drivers included with CDMA versions since they would have had time to figure this out since everyone else already has.

Gave up Core Player for the Touch phones. It doesn't play movies at all well. Just use the built-in WMP or the HTC album player.
Download the Encoder GUI and just re-encode your movies. Let it run during your bedtime. Easy!

Lord_BlackAdder said:
What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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For starters, it doesn't play xvid.

Shasarak said:
For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
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Re-encode it using the Encoder GUI. Why fight it?
Don't think there any mobile phones that can play xvid videos at 800x480 smoothly. Even the latest i8000 only supports video playback at up to 720x480.
Even if you get an iPhone, you will still need to convert it to in order for you to watch it.
My solution, either re-encode it, or play a lower resolution xvid (i think i tried it once at 622x288, can't remember and it played ok in core player).

I'd go with Coreplayer too as it has the widest range of codecs available BUT if the bitrate of your clip is too high your phone won't like it whatever player you use (but you probably knew that anyway...)

Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium

reddog said:
Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hey, good find! Will give it a try for sure! Cheers!

Core player has some nice features, but benchmarking h264 playback it was somewhat lacking compaired to windows media player mobile....
95% of the time u will want to/have to re-encode to make it smaller or lower the bitrate to something it can play, so codec support shoudnt be a choosing factor...
I get WMPM playing smooth with H264(1300~ bitrate) and ACC audio(stereo at 128 varieable bitrate) at 800x416. which is dame nice quality on the small screen
I'll start a thread on encoding with MeGUI to get you all started

But I can't get full screen on WMP
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What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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Do you know what I'm doing wrong? After not being able to use WMP on my Universal (WM5) because it could not do full screen - I load a movie into WMP on my shiny new Touch Pro 2 and 'full screen' isn't - it has a dirty great big border round it! The video is smaller then the screen but WMP is set to stretch to screen. What gives??
John

Shasarak said:
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
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wow that done the trick for me, awesome playback imo

I tried the Touch HD encoder and used the advised settings in the thread.
Playback is smooth in HTC Album, but the quality seemed fuzzier than my normal method.
So back I go to:
Coreplayer
Videos encoded using PocketDivXEncoder with the following settings:
HDTV preset
Video quality: 70
Audio quality: maximum
Resize the video so that the video width is 400 pixels, maintaining the aspect ratio.

media player with slowmo ?

Coreplayer on Windows mobile was the best media player period, but it's not available on Android.
Which media players will do slowmo playback ?

What Im also interested in is, can the Galaxy S do high-fps recording?
The Wave does it and its nearly the same hardware. I wonder why Samsung didnt built this in. The Droid X has it too afaik.

Supports 30fps video!

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Supports 30fps video!
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That's not what I meant...
Do you know those slow mo vids of exploding ballons filled with water etc.?
I want to record videos like that.
It's recording with like 200fps!
The Samsung Wave and Droid X are capable of doing so, but the Galaxy S isn't.

I wants to know, too.
The resolution would surely have to be downscaled, I suppose.

After much debate I finally got hold of the Galaxy S because I thought it would be the ultimate multi-media device (being able to play 720P mkv's and other media without conversion), so I put the iphone 3GS away.
Lo and behold, it has the same crappy media player controls as the iphone.
Play , Pause and scroll slider.
Come on!!!!
Even my 5 year old windows mobile smartphone (SPV C500) had the ability to play media at variable speeds .inc variable speed slow motion (coreplayer).
Please tell me that there's a fully loaded media player available for Android that does this device justice.

anyone seen anything new similar to Coreplayer?

RockPlayer on the market is for armv6...but I remember that one friend manage to install the v7 from market.
Regarding 720p mkv playing, some videos were running even with subtitles rendered, while others no. Others couldn't play at all, like the 1080p mkv. Anyone knows if there is a bitrate limit or why others 720p mkv don't work?

cristipurdel said:
RockPlayer on the market is for armv6...but I remember that one friend manage to install the v7 from market.
Regarding 720p mkv playing, some videos were running even with subtitles rendered, while others no. Others couldn't play at all, like the 1080p mkv. Anyone knows if there is a bitrate limit or why others 720p mkv don't work?
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What does this have to do with a slomo feature?

I am not aware of any media player for Android that can play slowmo, but I think there is one way you could do this indirectly using the "VLC stream and convert" app. Stream your movie from your desktop to your phone in slowmo via VLC media player which can play movies in slowmo.
I have not tried this myself but I guess it should work. I know this is not the ideal solution.

Archos Video Player now has a free version (with minor ads)

Apparently the $4.99 charge caused enough of an uproar with Archos customers and people wanting to use their Video Player (or even just test it out), so now Archos has gone and made an ad-supported version of their Video Player. As a disclaimer I have to say that I do find MX Player to be better overall in general, but I just installed this Archos Video Player (free version, obviously) and I've spent maybe 15 minutes with it on my Nexus 7 and I have to say one word:
Impressive.
Seriously, it is. No, it ain't MX Player but, as soon as I loaded it and then was able to see my network shares in a few seconds flat, then index those folders and grab the cover art - and even subtitles for some files - I was duly impressed as noted.
Second disclaimer: my Wife is deaf so pretty much everything I have already has subtitles but, it was pretty awesome to see this video player reach out for them just the same.
I'd never even heard of this video player before now and I try to keep up with Archos and their products, so I am definitely surprised with this little gem so far. I have some videos that have native DTS soundtracks and of course neither this app nor MX Player can decode DTS natively, they both require additional codecs, and I recently located the DTS codecs for MX Player and they work great. For this Archos Video Player, there's another app/installer called Archos Video All Codecs Plugin, which is also free and it's on Google Play just as well - that took all of 10 seconds to locate and install - you run it one time once it's installed on your device and then the Archos Video Player has access to the codecs.
I then hit my network share again and loaded the previously playable-without-audio files and it works, just as designed. Fantastic experience with this app so far, but I still have MX Player as well. I'll do more testing with various files over the next few days, but if it works as well over time as it does right now, I may just be using this as my primary Android video player from now on.
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Archos Video Player Free
Archos Video All Codecs Plugin

br0adband said:
Apparently the $4.99 charge caused enough of an uproar with Archos customers and people wanting to use their Video Player (or even just test it out), so now Archos has gone and made an ad-supported version of their Video Player. As a disclaimer I have to say that I do find MX Player to be better overall in general, but I just installed this Archos Video Player (free version, obviously) and I've spent maybe 15 minutes with it on my Nexus 7 and I have to say one word:
Impressive.
Seriously, it is. No, it ain't MX Player but, as soon as I loaded it and then was able to see my network shares in a few seconds flat, then index those folders and grab the cover art - and even subtitles for some files - I was duly impressed as noted.
Second disclaimer: my Wife is deaf so pretty much everything I have already has subtitles but, it was pretty awesome to see this video player reach out for them just the same.
I'd never even heard of this video player before now and I try to keep up with Archos and their products, so I am definitely surprised with this little gem so far. I have some videos that have native DTS soundtracks and of course neither this app nor MX Player can decode DTS natively, they both require additional codecs, and I recently located the DTS codecs for MX Player and they work great. For this Archos Video Player, there's another app/installer called Archos Video All Codecs Plugin, which is also free and it's on Google Play just as well - that took all of 10 seconds to locate and install - you run it one time once it's installed on your device and then the Archos Video Player has access to the codecs.
I then hit my network share again and loaded the previously playable-without-audio files and it works, just as designed. Fantastic experience with this app so far, but I still have MX Player as well. I'll do more testing with various files over the next few days, but if it works as well over time as it does right now, I may just be using this as my primary Android video player from now on.
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Archos Video Player Free
Archos Video All Codecs Plugin
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are you using an UPnP server to share your movies over wifi? Your subtitles are integrated into the video files, or are external files?( .srt usually)

I'm using the SMB support in the Archos Video Player, I don't use uPNP for anything (not that I have any such devices save for my cable modem/router), pulling MKV containers directly for playback. I embed the subs inside the MKV containers, butfor one or two of the videos that I have that weren't worth putting into MKV containers (they're old AVI files using the Xvid codec) they had sub/idx style subtitles and not srt so the Archos Video Player pulled down an srt version that works just as well.
I do all my own encoding probably 99% of the time and make sure the captions or subtitles are accurate and without issues, embedded inside the MKV containers so I know certain my Wife won't have any problems.

Very nice. Thanks for the share. So far diceplayer and this (both with ffmpeg added) are the only ones to play all my MKVs correctly with hardware decoding.
Mxplayer, even with ffmpeg, fails to do HWA audio in some of my videos.
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I run a Plex server from my ancient EeeBox for streaming videos to my Roku. I hadn't bothered buying the app for Android because it was five bucks. The Archos player picked up the Plex server lickity split....yay!

Unsupported audio codec??

My videos in stock player play fine, but I get this error message "unsupported audio codec" - and I have no sound.
They play ok in Galaxy Note 2, and everywhere else. Tried MX player, same thing. Video is ok but with no sound.
Any solution to this?

carlitos66 said:
My videos in stock player play fine, but I get this error message "unsupported audio codec" - and I have no sound.
They play ok in Galaxy Note 2, and everywhere else. Tried MX player, same thing. Video is ok but with no sound.
Any solution to this?
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Your video probably comes with DTS stream that cannot be decoded. Google MX player DTS you wull find the proper codec.

If you are using Mx player you need to check off the audio codec in the settings. I would keep it that way forever.
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I actually loved the stock samsung player on th gn10.1 2012. it played everything. the first vid I tried to play on this one and it won't play ac3 audio. so I've started using archos and the old bs player again.

Bsplayer got hit with ac3 problem when dolby demanded royalty fees, maybe samsung did to?

+1 for mxplayer

Speaking of players, can this thing play 4K videos?

madsquabbles said:
I actually loved the stock samsung player on th gn10.1 2012. it played everything. the first vid I tried to play on this one and it won't play ac3 audio. so I've started using archos and the old bs player again.
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me too, weird why Samsung changed this. One of my main reason to buy this tablet - put anything on SD card and play without converting with Hand Brake etc...

carlitos66 said:
me too, weird why Samsung changed this. One of my main reason to buy this tablet - put anything on SD card and play without converting with Hand Brake etc...
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I believe it was due to legal issues.

SlimJ87D said:
I believe it was due to legal issues.
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for a $600 there shouldn't be any legal issues. pay the royalty and be done with it.

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for a $600 there shouldn't be any legal issues. pay the royalty and be done with it.
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I bet from a business standpoint, the amount the royalties cost per a device wouldn't have been worth it compared to the actual amount of people that would really take advantage of it. But yes, it would be cool to have had it out of the box. But I believe it works fine with MX Player from my testing, and it really wasn't that hard to get MX Player.

I had the same issue with unsupported audio codec, solved with VLC player.

I've paid. for just about every player, mobo, dice, bs.. right now my favorite is archos. it's a mix of mizuu and bs. I havent had a single video that it couldnt play yet.

Are those your recommended players to watch most content? I really want to buy one but in the past have ran into audio issues.
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I like archos because it can download movie info, tv series info, and play about everything. I use he archos free codecs and everything plays fine. I've always liked archos media player from when I used to have the archos 101.

I know you can use other media players, but the point of using stock player is that it plays videos with the help of hardware, thus less battery consumption, versus if you use software decoding by other apps. Or at least It was like that on Nexus 10.

Has anyone tried to contact Samsung about this? My old galaxy 7.7has ac3 support.

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I know you can use other media players, but the point of using stock player is that it plays videos with the help of hardware, thus less battery consumption, versus if you use software decoding by other apps. Or at least It was like that on Nexus 10.
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the other media player can use hardware decoding if available. archos does ac3 fine with hardware decoding. i'd supposed the old bs player will to but i've not used it yet.
but it was nice having a great player that played everything built into the system.

SlimJ87D said:
If you are using Mx player you need to check off the audio codec in the settings. I would keep it that way forever.
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If you download MX Player's NeoN-driver (you'll find the download link to the .zip in the settings), you can use HW+ for video and audio (DTS supported). Using this you are in audio/video heaven with the new Note 10.1. You can even play 2 full HD movies, one with MX Player and one with the built-in player (in pop-up mode) at the same time without any hickup. And if you so desire, open up an internet or file browser while you are at it - screen area allowing.
I see so much talk of lag and other supposed deficiencies here, while so far I have been in honeymoon state for 8 days solid.

lord69 said:
Speaking of players, can this thing play 4K videos?
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Yes with mx player